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What's happened? it seems like the entire poll was a joke or something because FGC didn't say anything....at all like.......nothing at all. I'm getting a little mad now
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Pot splitting, Rule misunderstandings between M2k and Unknown522, TO troubles, general tourney misunderstandings. from what I understand we left a bad impression on a lot of the stream monsters, including many people high in the FGC community ( the head of EVO.)How did we **** up at rom I wasn't paying attention to whatever happened apparently
And never saw finals or anything unfortunately
My opinion might be stupid, but I blame the stream. Why were so many games pushed on the stream? This tournament got delayed so hard because of it. Things ran really late, people got really tired. It was not enjoyable. The tournament running well should always be 1st priority. Getting as many cool sets streamed/recorded as possible is never what's most important. At most, I think only top 4 (finals and semis) or 6 (also include LQ) should be seen on the internet. Do few things but do them well
Have you ever watched other games? They manage to stream many more matches with less problems. Don't act like the smash community is trying to break new ground by streaming more than 8 matches. Only streaming the finals would net fewer viewers and wouldn't build up hype.
Yep. We need to provide something different in our streams that no one else does at this point. I have an idea as to what it is, and I'll be sketching it out soon.Multi-streams take a substantial amount of bandwidth that most venues available for grassroots-level tournaments simply don't provide.
Multi-streams are the future
We are having something like that at NEC with ClashTournaments and Videogamebootcamp simultaneously streaming Melee and Brawl. We have superb streamers in our community, we have to be willing to use them.Yeah, that's probably true. However, I think sometimes the issue is Streaming Equipment (while something I'm admittedly not familiar with) is hardly something that sounds as if it would be cheap to get. That being said though, maybe you could have like...2 streaming sites partner on covering a Smash major together or something? It's probably already been done, but I'm just thinking on things to raise awareness, and if you wanted to entice the EVO officials to let you have something, if they didn't have to use their own stream equipment it might help?
We are having something like that at NEC with ClashTournaments and Videogamebootcamp simultaneously streaming Melee and Brawl. We have superb streamers in our community, we have to be willing to use them.
I originally wasn't going to NEC, I have a concert the night before. I might have to be hungover and show up now.All right, thanks. I wasn't aware of that. Good luck on that and I hope it works out.
I hate to be a negative Nancy, but everything I've heard about this Mr. Wizard guy makes me think he's a close-minded Smash hater.
**** I forgot about the concert. I don't know how this will workout now. :\I originally wasn't going to NEC, I have a concert the night before. I might have to be hungover and show up now.
He's just terrible.I hate to be a negative Nancy, but everything I've heard about this Mr. Wizard guy makes me think he's a close-minded Smash hater.
wizard is terrible. he thought that new mexico and colorado are apart of texas. he wouldn't use rom as the only thing why melee won't get into evo but he would use rom as one as the reasons. the real reason is $$$ though.He's just terrible.
If he uses ROM as an excuse for not including Melee in EVO, even if NEC goes well, I honestly wouldn't be surprised.
There are few very good posts in this thread that were also posted on Evos Facebook wall to serve a similar purpose as the email. You should take a look at themIf anyone would like to compose a community email for me that would be awesome. The main reason I haven't emailed him yet is because I have very poor writing skills
That doesn't matter, no one is infallible.wizard is terrible. he thought that new mexico and colorado are apart of texas. he wouldn't use rom as the only thing why melee won't get into evo but he would use rom as one as the reasons. the real reason is $$$ though.
That doesn't matter, no one is infallible.
When you refer to money being a reason, that I can see. Melee isn't a big money game in terms of income from tournaments. Also, I'll say it again, the man likes standardization. Sony sponsors the event, each PS3 is on the same firmware, on the same game version with the same model ASUS? monitor. We don't have that type of standard in terms of game version (hell, although it doesn't make much of a difference, we're running tournaments off Wii and Gamecubes). Let alone the difficulty now of gathering enough CRT televisions to run a tournament (if we got more than 4 of the same model without purchasing them outright, I'd be very surprised).
I think that EVO is out of reach, personally, but its a great impetus for us to improve as a community to get our act together, whether or not we get it.
i agree with this. i don't think anyone on the evo staff would want to buy like 40+ of the same crt and matching amount of wiis. i'm pretty sure they sold all of that stuff after evo 2010. not only that, even if melee got into the main lineup next year nintendo probably wouldn't play ball with evo (whereas sega, atlus, nether realms etc.) would; companies getting involved with evo is a pretty big part in what game are in the main lineupThat doesn't matter, no one is infallible.
When you refer to money being a reason, that I can see. Melee isn't a big money game in terms of income from tournaments. Also, I'll say it again, the man likes standardization. Sony sponsors the event, each PS3 is on the same firmware, on the same game version with the same model ASUS? monitor. We don't have that type of standard in terms of game version (hell, although it doesn't make much of a difference, we're running tournaments off Wii and Gamecubes). Let alone the difficulty now of gathering enough CRT televisions to run a tournament (if we got more than 4 of the same model without purchasing them outright, I'd be very surprised).
I think that EVO is out of reach, personally, but its a great impetus for us to improve as a community to get our act together, whether or not we get it.
Melee is a game that has less chance of getting in with each passing year, not more. Also, Mortal Kombat was featured at EVO on the very year that it was released (and let's not kid ourselves here, almost none of its previous iterations had any true competitive merit). King of Fighters XIII took a while (two years), but is also still played on current hardware. Melee is now two generations behind and technically one series iteration behind, operating on hardware that can only output 480i and 480p. In addition it tends to lack sponsorship support from Nintendo...My Personal opinion is that I think EVO may be out of reach for 2013, BUT that if you as a community are serious about it and stick to it, then you can make it happen one of these years. Plenty of well known series like MK, Soul Calibur, and KOF had to take a good while before they finally got featured. EVO is always going to be a battle to see what can get in.