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Geno (♥♪!?): Return of the Starsend Savior

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Datboigeno

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Aw, geez, Geno. Do they even feed you? Surely they're willing to spare some Kerokero Cola and some star bits, maybe even some Mukumuku cookies?
They've been feeding me nothing but marshmallows for the past several years. Good thing my body is made of wood so I can't get fat haha

Have you seen Mallow? Made any contact with him recently?
No, not for the past several ye-

Wait a second..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7Xu-3_42fQ
 
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Do you have an escape plan?
I have a pen pal on the outside but he's been very busy lately working on a project I guess. He said he was trying to work things out with his bosses to see if they could spring me out but our last contact that was several years ago :( :( :(
 

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I have a pen pal on the outside but he's been very busy lately working on a project I guess. He said he was trying to work things out with his bosses to see if they could spring me out but our last contact that was several years ago :( :( :(
This is getting too depressing too fast.
 

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If you think video game developers are millionaires, you need a reality check.
I mean I never assumed them to be millionares, but the only people who stand a chance of getting that much dough in the gaming industry are peple like Miyamoto, and the heads of Microsoft and Sony's gaming divisions, etc.
 

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So how’s it been going in here dudes? Been a while.

Edit: Jesus Christ y’all are making me depressed after just reading just a little bit of the past few pages. I feel like a support thread should uh, well, support the character.

I did have a theory on Brave that I might post this week but uh... It seems like it’s kinda pointless to do anything here when even if Sakurai himself said gang Geno was in y’all would still not believe.

Guess I’m bouncing again.
I want to see your theory regarding Brave. I'm curious
 

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So this was the big June DQ announcement, I guess?

Also a deconfirmation for Sora?

Translation:
Today I met Shinji Hashimoto, vice president and producer of Square Enix (including FF and KH) at a conference at my future #Genimage school, it was great. I took a lot of notes.

PS: We asked him the question and no, Sora is not planned in SSBU.
Still shaky on Geno's chances for DLC but seeing the competition's odds go down even slightly is a good feeling. Sorry for those supporters of Sora though.
 

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I want to see your theory regarding Brave. I'm curious
Well, the thing about it is that I might have found a really strong connection to the term "Brave" and another character in a way similar to that of Doyle to Arsene where it's pretty specific yet once you figure it out it makes a ton of sense.

I'm just worried everyone would call me biased since the character in question is my pfp.
 

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If you think video game developers are millionaires, you need a reality check.
If you think Masahiro Sakurai, creator of Kirby and Smash Bros, isn't a millionaire, you need a reality check.
 

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Well, the thing about it is that I might have found a really strong connection to the term "Brave" and another character in a way similar to that of Doyle to Arsene where it's pretty specific yet once you figure it out it makes a ton of sense.

I'm just worried everyone would call me biased since the character in question is my pfp.
To be fair bias plays pretty heavily into most discussions here anyway so I feel like any genuinely fresh interpretation of the codename would be welcome after months of seeing the same talking points regurgitated over and over again.
 

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John Wick 3 is good. Just thought I’d say that.

To be fair bias plays pretty heavily into most discussions here anyway so I feel like any genuinely fresh interpretation of the codename would be welcome after months of seeing the same talking points regurgitated over and over again.
Fair enough. You make a good point there. I’ll throw together a quick little thing tonight explaining my thoughts. I had a big thing I planning on posting to the Ninten thread tomorrow, so I’ll make a shorter one just explaining the codename. Gimmie a bit and I’ll make one. It’s easier for me to use visuals than just text.

So this was the big June DQ announcement, I guess?

Also a deconfirmation for Sora?



Still shaky on Geno's chances for DLC but seeing the competition's odds go down even slightly is a good feeling. Sorry for those supporters of Sora though.
DQ on Smartphones? That’s... Not a terrible idea to be honest, at least in my opinion. As long as it’s not like Elder Scrolls Mobile.

And for Sora... Oof... One of my friends is NOT gonna be happy when I break the news to him...
 

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If you think Masahiro Sakurai, creator of Kirby and Smash Bros, isn't a millionaire, you need a reality check.
I'm no expert when it comes to discussing this field, but I know Super Smash Bros. and Kirby are big franchises for Nintendo, but are not big, iconic, mighty successful gaming franchises like Super Mario, Pokémon, Sonic the Hedgehog, Halo, Final Fantasy, or The Legend of Zelda in the grand scheme of things. Sakurai does deserve mighty respect and credit for what he does for gaming, but he is a small fish in a giant pond.
 
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I'm no expert when it comes to discussing this field, but I know Super Smash Bros. and Kirby are big franchises for Nintendo, but are not big, iconic, mighty successful gaming franchises like Super Mario, Pokémon, Sonic the Hedgehog, Halo, Final Fantasy, or The Legend of Zelda in the grand scheme of things. Sakurai does deserve mighty respect and credit for what he does for gaming, but he is a small fish in a giant pond.
Smash Bros on its own is the 6th most popular Nintendo series (5th if you combine Mario and Donkey Kong) and Sakurai's games have sold better than Halo. He has nearly 100,000,000 game sales under his belt. I would be absolute shocked if his net worth was less than $10 million and all those celebrity net worth websites seem to agree with me.

This image of Sakurai as an overworked, underpaid martyr really needs to stop. He is handsomely compensated for his work and can stop at any time he chooses.
 
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So now that Sora is out of the picture, does this leave it to a battle between Erdrick or possibly last minute surprise Geno???
 

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So now that Sora is out of the picture, does this leave it to a battle between Erdrick or possibly last minute surprise Geno???
I wouldn't say Sora is entirely out of the picture, but his chances are incredibly slim now (which honestly shocks me). I think it's down to Sephiroth, Erdrick, and Geno at this point, unfortunately with our boy as the least likely of the three.
 

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I wouldn't say Sora is entirely out of the picture, but his chances are incredibly slim now (which honestly shocks me). I think it's down to Sephiroth, Erdrick, and Geno at this point, unfortunately with our boy as the least likely of the three.
Don't forget other DQ characters, though. Sora was pretty much the only choice for his franchise, but DQ doesn't work the same way. And Crono is still one of the Seven Squares.

Worst case scenario, though, we might still get the costume, at least. Tails and Knuckles' have returned, so if Geno has a Spirit, I don't see why his wouldn't.
 

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Don't forget other DQ characters, though. Sora was pretty much the only choice for his franchise, but DQ doesn't work the same way. And Crono is still one of the Seven Squares.

Worst case scenario, though, we might still get the costume, at least. Tails and Knuckles' have returned, so if Geno has a Spirit, I don't see why his wouldn't.
I hope that if we can't get him playable that we at least get the costume back (even better yet if they polish it to feel more like Geno and not like a bootleg with a Mii face, like gimme a helmet or something, man). I at least have more certainty that this would happen. Then again, it's Square, so they could just not bring the costume back either. In my experience, whatever can go wrong with Square Enix will. Murphy's Law is their best friend. (Yeah, I'm bitter, rofl.)
 
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Alright so before this turns into the Geno's gonna be a Mii costume thread....

I forgot to answer my own question yesterday.

I've played Paper Mario Ttyd, Paper Mario Color Splash, Mario and Luigi Superstar Saga, and Mario and Luigi Partners in Time. I loved all of them, and ranked, they are:
1. Paper Mario Ttyd
2. M&L PiT
3. M&L SS
4. Paper Mario CS

I'll probably play Paper Mario and Mario and Luigi Bowser's Inside Story eventually.
 

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You guys astonish me.

First off, Sakurai DOES overwork himself by our standards, regardless of what you think, and just because someone makes something that succeeds doesn't mean they are rich. Why do you think he keeps working on games if he had enough money to sit on right now? Other than being threatened by Nintendo of course.

Secondly, and listen very closely...

SORA IS NOT OUT OF THE RUNNING!

Just because somebody SAID that they interviewed Shinji and he replied with 'we have no plans for Ultimate' doesn't mean anything.

See, people seem to misunderstand (as I have) as long as you do not directly say 'This character is in' or 'This character is not in' that you aren't breaking NDA. It's why what Aubrey said about Steve means nothing but the remarks about Master Chief remain grounded.

Now this part is beyond my knowledge, but apparently Shinji has also made similar statements about things that have ended up being true. Regardless, this is not an outright deconfirmation and really the only solid way to deconfirm him would be for Nomura to come out and say something. Sora is not out, Steve is not out, and Erdrick is not in...nothing is solid, so stop acting like it is.

EDIT: So under NDA, it's actually okay to say 'No' to a character that IS in development, but if that character is happening it's more likely to be a vague response. Both Aubrey and Shinji fall under this, while O'Conner is a hard 'No' and is very likely a deconfirm though it could still not be. Under NDA you cannot say 'Yes' or 'Maybe', and Sora was likely no in development when we got that original 'Yes' comment but if he was, that would explain that removal of the tweet.
 
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Alright so before this turns into the Geno's gonna be a Mii costume thread....

I forgot to answer my own question yesterday.

I've played Paper Mario Ttyd, Paper Mario Color Splash, Mario and Luigi Superstar Saga, and Mario and Luigi Partners in Time. I loved all of them, and ranked, they are:
1. Paper Mario Ttyd
2. M&L PiT
3. M&L SS
4. Paper Mario CS

I'll probably play Paper Mario and Mario and Luigi Bowser's Inside Story eventually.
Why PiT before SS? Just out of curiosity.

I think PiT might be my least favorite M&L game. I don't think it's bad per se, just... I didn't really like the way they connected the parts of world and having only the castle as a "hub", I guess. And the mechanics with the babies never really stuck with me. Though I will say I appreciated the more "serious" tone the story and the locations take in the final stretch.
 

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...I’m pretty sure saying “We have no plans for Ultimate” is one of few things that means someone’s for sure out...

Eh. What’s the point in arguing. I’ll probably drop the theory I have after I fine tune it. I’ll be in the Ninten thread if anyone needs me.

Peace. :ness:
 
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Why PiT before SS? Just out of curiosity.

I think PiT might be my least favorite M&L game. I don't think it's bad per se, just... I didn't really like the way they connected the parts of world and having only the castle as a "hub", I guess. And the mechanics with the babies never really stuck with me. Though I will say I appreciated the more "serious" tone the story and the locations take in the final stretch.
Oh, I just like the story, the gameplay, the music, and the characters more.

Plus it was my first Mario game ever, so it's pretty nostalgic for me. I just really like it.
 

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...I’m pretty sure saying “We have no plans for Ultimate” is one of few things that means someone’s for sure out...

Eh. What’s the point in arguing. I’ll probably drop the theory I have after I fine tune it. I’ll be in the Ninten thread if anyone needs me.

Peace. :ness:
Feels like you didn't even read my post, though to be fair I clarified more in post-post.

Saying 'I think he'd be a bad pick' (Steve) or 'we have no plans' (Sora) are not deconfirms.
 
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Feels like you didn't even read my post, though to be fair I clarified more in post-post.

Saying 'I think he'd be a bad pick' (Steve) or 'we have no plans' (Sora) are not deconfirms.
I did read your post. And those two sentences imply two different things.
 
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Feels like you didn't even read my post, though to be fair I clarified more in post-post.

Saying 'I think he'd be a bad pick' (Steve) or 'we have no plans' (Sora) are not deconfirms.
Do you think Master Chief is deconfirmed?
 

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Oh, I just like the story, the gameplay, the music, and the characters more.

Plus it was my first Mario game ever, so it's pretty nostalgic for me. I just really like it.
Understandable. I'm kind of the same with Pokémon Emerald and Colosseum.

Ah, one bizarre question: would you guys like if a new Mario RPG was made... but it was an Action RPG instead of turn-based? Like, similar aesthetics (maybe clay-like, as someone said before), but in this new vein?
 
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Understandable. I'm kind of the same with Pokémon Emerald and Colosseum.

Ah, one bizarre question: would you guys like if a new Mario RPG was made... but it was an Action RPG instead of turn-based? Like, similar aesthetics (maybe clay-like, as someone said before), but in this new vein?
I haven't played any action RPGs, what are they like exactly?
 
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Man, I hope my boy Crash doesn't get disconfirmed by Activision or something.
 

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I did read your post. And those two sentences imply two different things.
They actually don't in terms of being vague enough to fall under NDA.

One is a manager who would likely know about Steve's inclusion clarifying that she thinks he is a bad pick for Smash.

The other is a Director who would likely know about Sora's inclusion saying that have no plans for Ultimate.

Got another fastball for yeah, let's see if your forward-smash it ready: people working on KH3 outright lied about working on the game. For example, VAs for character said they were not reprising their roles despite doing exactly that for the game. Reasoning? You can so 'No' under NDA, but you cannot say 'Yes' or 'Maybe'. Anything else is fine. Thus 'we have no plans' is fine: you can ACTUALLY have plans and state that you don't.


Do you think Master Chief is deconfirmed?
The Big Chief is a weird situation: O'Conner flat-out gave us a hard 'No.' but technically 'no' is acceptable under NDA. Thus he could be possible theoretically, but it all depends on prior history of O'Conner and the company. Square has said no and actually had things happen, but has O'Conner a history of this? What about his company?
 
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They actually don't in terms of being vague enough to fall under NDA.

One is a manager who would likely know about Steve's inclusion clarifying that she thinks he is a bad pick for Smash.

The other is a Director who would likely know about Sora's inclusion saying that have no plans for Ultimate.

Got another fastball for yeah, let's see if your forward-smash it ready: people working on KH3 outright lied about working on the game. For example, VAs for character said they were not reprising their roles despite doing exactly that for the game. Reasoning? You can so 'No' under NDA, but you cannot say 'Yes' or 'Maybe'. Anything else is fine. Thus 'we have no plans' is fine: you can ACTUALLY have plans and state that you don't.




The Big Chief is a weird situation: O'Conner flat-out gave us a hard 'No.' but technically 'no' is acceptable under NDA. Thus he could be possible theoretically, but it all depends on prior history of O'Conner and the company. Square has said no and actually had things happen, but has O'Conner a history of this? What about his company?
What's an example of Square saying no to things that actually happen later?

'Cause, if someone says "we have no plans for Sora," then it probably means they have no plans for Sora.
 

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They actually don't in terms of being vague enough to fall under NDA.

One is a manager who would likely know about Steve's inclusion clarifying that she thinks he is a bad pick for Smash.

The other is a Director who would likely know about Sora's inclusion saying that have no plans for Ultimate.

Got another fastball for yeah, let's see if your forward-smash it ready: people working on KH3 outright lied about working on the game. For example, VAs for character said they were not reprising their roles despite doing exactly that for the game. Reasoning? You can so 'No' under NDA, but you cannot say 'Yes' or 'Maybe'. Anything else is fine. Thus 'we have no plans' is fine: you can ACTUALLY have plans and state that you don't.




The Big Chief is a weird situation: O'Conner flat-out gave us a hard 'No.' but technically 'no' is acceptable under NDA. Thus he could be possible theoretically, but it all depends on prior history of O'Conner and the company. Square has said no and actually had things happen, but has O'Conner a history of this? What about his company?
So what’s the point of debating or speculating about anything if there’s the chance that none of it even matters.
 

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I haven't played any action RPGs, what are they like exactly?
Real time combat and full control over characters during fights, generally speaking. There are a few in-genre variants, but some examples include: Kingdom Hearts, Diablo, Final Fantasy XV, some of the Mana games, the Tales series, etc.

So basically, a Mario RPG where you have full control over the characters during battle.

Dunno, I kinda like the idea of using Mario & Co. in this way.
 

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I just want Sora to be officially out of the running lol
That will never happen until all the DLC has been revealed. I understand your disdain to a degree, but he's a big name from a big name company and currently has a hot iron with DLC on the way. Dropping him next to 'The Story Thus Far' collection on Switch would be a major good move.


So what’s the point of debating or speculating about anything if there’s the chance that none of it even matters.
Honestly that's a good question, but frankly this thread needs some foundation. The emotion here flip-flops every day and it needs to settle to a 'we have no hard confirmation and everything else is vague and really doesn't mean much.' Few things have come out recently that are even concrete, those being Hat Kid and highly likely Chief (though under NDA it stands fine, it's just the approach seems rather convicting).

I would say what I have always said, which is that anyone is on the table at the moment. I think there is even talk of Porky right now with some image going around.
 
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That will never happen until all the DLC has been revealed. I understand your disdain to a degree, but he's a big name from a big name company and currently has a hot iron with DLC on the way. Dropping him next to 'The Story Thus Far' collection on Switch would be a major good move.




Honestly that's a good question, but frankly this thread needs some foundation. The emotion here flip-flops every day and it needs to settle to a 'we have no hard confirmation and everything else is vague and really doesn't mean much.' Few things have come out recently that are even concrete, those being Hat Kid and highly likely Chief (though under NDA it stands fine, it's just the approach seems rather convicting).

I would say what I have always said, which is that anyone is on the table at the moment. I think there is even talk of Porky right now with some image going around.
So then they're lying is what you're saying?

I mean, you do you, but I'm marking Sora as deconfirmed.
 
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I think we can all agree that counting Sora entirely out based on this info is unwise, but at the same time, it certainly doesn't help his chances.
Ah, one bizarre question: would you guys like if a new Mario RPG was made... but it was an Action RPG instead of turn-based? Like, similar aesthetics (maybe clay-like, as someone said before), but in this new vein?
Considering how much I love the Xenoblade series, I'd be all for this. SMRPG2 with Xenoblade gameplay would be THE ****.
 
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I think we can all agree that counting Sora entirely out based on this info is unwise, but at the same time, it certainly doesn't help his chances.
It's less info and more just an official statement that he's not planned for the game.
 
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