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Precisely. It just doesn't add up that things that were true didn't take anywhere as long to get confirmed, and we are in DLC territory at this point so… yeah, I honestly don't consider anything heard from such a long time ago to be true at this point. It's pretty simple when we just look at the simple facts so far.That situation that we're looking at is that if the character is indeed Erdrick, he was leaked almost a year before his actual announcement (if he's announced at E3), nevermind his actual release. Remember how in early January Sakurai said that Joker barely had a tangible form yet and how yesterday all we got was a character model and idle animation? Joker still isn't due out for another two months. Sakurai has stated that characters typically take ten months to a year to develop. This suggests that Joker started in June at the latest. Vergeben got his info in July. If Joker didn't have a tangible form outside of code up until about a month and a half ago, what could have possibly existed 7 months ago that someone aside from the key programmers could decipher and interpret as a particular character? Planning documents? The Gematsu leak was a painful lesson in how those can change dramatically. In this cycle, Inceniroar was the character that was leaked the earliest before their announcement and that was roughly a month after play testing had already started. The time span between leak and announcement? Roughly two months... It's a very strange situation overall.
King Zell said ''And probably MPT.'' He didn't say 100% percent it was going to be in the Direct.No, that's what I mean, I thought insiders said it would be shown in the direct
Edit: To clarify, I'm not saying that I don't think it's coming. I, again, just thought insiders said it would be shown off in this direct
Yes!I'd put my vote for Sora over Erdrick - Sephiroth over both! Let me dream.
I think it was a source of Polar Panda's that said that.Anyone have a source on that "Cloud was going to be DLC again" thing?
Is that the case PolarPanda ?King Zell said ''And probably MPT.'' He didn't say 100% percent it was going to be in the Direct.
Yes!
I think it was a source of Polar Panda's that said that.
Polar's source never said that.King Zell said ''And probably MPT.'' He didn't say 100% percent it was going to be in the Direct.
Yes!
I think it was a source of Polar Panda's that said that.
I'd put my vote for Sora over Erdrick - Sephiroth over both! Let me dream.
Geno > Slime > Sora > Crono > Anything ElseGeno > Sora > Chrono > Septhiroth > Erdrick > Slime > Luminary
that's how I would rank the Seven so I would definitely take Sora over Erdrick, no offense DQ fans I just have more of a connection to KH than DQ.
I forgot, yeah you're right.Polar's source never said that.
What happened was Stealth_ tweeted that Cloud was the final veteran added to Ultimate because Square Enix was difficult to work with.
It's possible that they wanted Cloud back as DLC, but it was never said anywhere that it was the case.
Same. I'd like Crono to come along with Geno (even though I haven't played Crono Trigger), but I need Geno.ive never enjoyed anything square has ever done outside of mario rpg so i dont really have a preference for sora over erdrick, especially when i dislike their source games equally as much lol. just give me geno, i dont wanna settle for a lesser of two bads or whatever
I see. Thanks.Polar's source never said that.
What happened was Stealth_ tweeted that Cloud was the final veteran added to Ultimate because Square Enix was difficult to work with.
It's possible that they wanted Cloud back as DLC, but it was never said anywhere that it was the case.
Damn I mean that still does seem like SE to me, I wouldn't be surprised if it was true.What happened was Stealth_ tweeted that Cloud was the final veteran added to Ultimate because Square Enix was difficult to work with.
No, my source didn't say Cloud was gonna be DLC again. That seemed to be a misconception/rumor floating around based on how Stealth said Cloud barely made it in. That's all.Is that the case PolarPanda ?
Fixed itMy main reason for wanting Sora over Erdrick is his almost Geno sized fanbase. At the end of the day, I want the most people to be hyped.
If we're being real.... Sora prolly has a larger fanbase over all. We really lack that casual support lol.Fixed it
I'd honestly say that's debatable. Geno does have more requests for Smash than Sora, but yeah, maybe Sora has a larger presence among the casual audience.If we're being real.... Sora prolly has a larger fanbase over all. We really lack that casual support lol.
My List would beGeno > Sora > Chrono > Septhiroth > Erdrick > Slime > Luminary
that's how I would rank the Seven so I would definitely take Sora over Erdrick, no offense DQ fans I just have more of a connection to KH than DQ.
Hopefully I don't annoy some people since I believe this is the third time I've said it buttt Its CandyMan from Lethal League/Blaze So basically like a super happy cheerful dude yay :DWho is the character in your pfp again? Whoever it is, you sound like that character
Then, in that case, you sound like the CandyManHopefully I don't annoy some people since I believe this is the third time I've said it buttt Its CandyMan from Lethal League/Blaze So basically like a super happy cheerful dude yay :D
Also : Geno >>>>>>>> Neku > Sora > Crono > Lara > 2B > Erdrick = Slime > Sephiroth
lmao our lists are very similar and some of the reasoning you stated for your rankings are similar to mine;My List would be
Geno > Sora = Crono >> Sephiroth >> Erdrick = Slime > Luminary
Geno obviously is my most wanted.
Sora would make a ton of people happy, lots of my friends would go nuts and if I cant get Geno I'd want to see them happy, Plus KH in smash would be super hype and I can definitely get behind that even if it meant not getting Geno, it would still be hype.
Chrono is actually MY personal second choice, but I feel like if I cant get Geno I'd rather a lot of people I know get Sora than me get my runner up, BUT Chrono would be slightly "cooler" to ME than Sora (I still really like Sora just more of a chrono trigger fan than KH fan) so because of that I rank chrono and sora equally as I'd probably be just as excited for either of them just for different reasons.
*Power Gap*
Sephiroth is cool and he's a classic gaming villain who'd be cool to see in smash but we already have a final fantasy 7 rep and I'd rather see some other square games in smash, as square has a lot more to offer than final fantasy 7. when spots on the roster are tight I gotta go with repping new games, but sephiroth is still cool and if we had lots of square reps coming i'd be very happy to see him, since we'll probably only get one more square rep at most i'd rather get some other games in smash. still a cool character who I like though, unfortunately competing with some of my favorites.
*Power Gap*
Erdrick and Slime are equal to me as both simply represent DQ and I just have very little personal attachment to the series and everyone I know who are into it are only casually into it. I like them both for different reasons, erdrick for having a classic akira toriyama "look" to him and slime for being a very unique design which could have a really unique moveset/play style for smash.
Luminary is only slightly less than the other DQ reps because I dont like his design as much, however since I already don't care too much for DQ I wouldn't be any less excited for him over the other ones really, but if I had to pick a DQ character for smash out of these three I'd choose one of the other two simply based on their designs.
Can you stop pulling bull**** out of your ass? And can people stop agreeing as if there's truth to this? Is this because you want to believe so desperately in favor of geno that you want to believe anything that gives something else less chance? There's some people who believe erdrick, but why do you take it to heart so hard that you get like this?That situation that we're looking at is that if the character is indeed Erdrick, he was leaked almost a year before his actual announcement (if he's announced at E3), nevermind his actual release. Remember how in early January Sakurai said that Joker barely had a tangible form yet and how yesterday all we got was a character model and idle animation? Joker still isn't due out for another two months. Sakurai has stated that characters typically take ten months to a year to develop. This suggests that Joker started in June at the latest. Vergeben got his info in July. If Joker didn't have a tangible form outside of code up until about a month and a half ago, what could have possibly existed 7 months ago that someone aside from the key programmers could decipher and interpret as a particular character? Planning documents? The Gematsu leak was a painful lesson in how those can change dramatically. In this cycle, Inceniroar was the character that was leaked the earliest before their announcement and that was roughly a month after play testing had already started. The time span between leak and announcement? Roughly two months... It's a very strange situation overall.
Uh...what? I think you need to chill.Can you stop pulling bull**** out of your ***? And can people stop agreeing as if there's truth to this? Is this because you want to believe so desperately in favor of geno that you want to believe anything that gives something else less chance? There's some people who believe erdrick, but why do you take it to heart so hard that you get like this?
I'm ****ing tired of this ****, mainly because I like DQ, but also because I'm tired of people bandwagoning to something just because they want to believe it's real.
You keep saying it's been almost a year, when erdrick was mentioned 2 months ago! An SE rep was mention near summer, and that might've been when they started negotiations for a character, so they wouldn't have known who it was yet, and they didn't.
Like, for ****'s sake.
And I'm open to that there's some stuff I dont fully know. And if that's the case then show me something and back it up. But I'm really tempted to just bow out of this thread, cuz this is ridiculous. It' not worth the ounces of fun there can be around besides it.
Lots of times fatmanonice has said something, that i saw, there was always some bull**** that is either not true or doesn't make sense in the bigger picture of things. And lots of people latch onto it and dont even question it. I dont know where you got me saying anger from him. I'm the one who's pissed here. He's not making many people upset here because, i think, there's so many people desperate for what he seems to bring to the table that you dont even question it or see how much bs there is.Uh...what? I think you need to chill.
You are mistaken if you think he's doing this for ill intents or that he is getting angry. He's just relaying info to us and sharing his opinion about it.
He said himself that he fully acknowledges he could be wrong, and that he doesn't see how he is ruining anyone's fun or making anyone upset, which I agree with. Again, he's just sharing his opinions about the info, and I think you are taking it too personally.
There's supporting your character and then there's being biased to the point that you let go of good sense and even not being considerate to the point of crapping at other things(well, characters) that dont have to do with geno, just to try to inch above and find some hope indirectly.Also just feel like This should be pointed out...again...this is the GENO SUPPORT thread, you really expect us here not to view everything in a lens more hopeful for geno? Fatmanonice is of course, going to post things in his opinion that he feels work more in geno’s favor, and of course we’re all more likely to see things in the same favorable view, whether from leaked character stats and codenames, to all the constant references to smrpg by Nintendo lately.
If you want to have more general discussion and debate about the stuff, take it to the seven squares topic. Don’t piss on people’s hopes in the topic supporting the character.
Dude, uh... There are presentable ways to argue that something is wrong, and then there is blowing up while hardly injecting all of your reasoning as to why. Debate is totally fine, but this kind of rage isn't. Please relax.Lots of times fatmanonice has said something, that i saw, there was always some bull**** that is either not true or doesn't make sense in the bigger picture of things. And lots of people latch onto it and dont even question it. I dont know where you got me saying anger from him. I'm the one who's pissed here. He's not making many people upset here because, i think, there's so many people desperate for what he seems to bring to the table that you dont even question it or see how much bs there is.
There's saying you could be wrong, and then there's actually having some ****in humility and stop being a **** just because you're not called out on it.
You seem to have completely ignored the part where I said that A) he isn't doing this for ill intents and B) he's simply sharing his opinion on the info.Lots of times fatmanonice has said something, that i saw, there was always some bull**** that is either not true or doesn't make sense in the bigger picture of things. And lots of people latch onto it and dont even question it. I dont know where you got me saying anger from him. I'm the one who's pissed here. He's not making many people upset here because, i think, there's so many people desperate for what he seems to bring to the table that you dont even question it or see how much bs there is.
There's saying you could be wrong, and then there's actually having some ****in humility and stop being a **** just because you're not called out on it.
Oof. You should probably get off the internet for the night, you seem a little fussy and you’re throwing a poopy diaper tantrum.Can you stop pulling bull**** out of your ***? And can people stop agreeing as if there's truth to this? Is this because you want to believe so desperately in favor of geno that you want to believe anything that gives something else less chance? There's some people who believe erdrick, but why do you take it to heart so hard that you get like this?
I'm ****ing tired of this ****, mainly because I like DQ, but also because I'm tired of people bandwagoning to something just because they want to believe it's real.
You keep saying it's been almost a year, when erdrick was mentioned 2 months ago! An SE rep was mention near summer, and that might've been when they started negotiations for a character, so they wouldn't have known who it was yet, and they didn't.
Like, for ****'s sake.
And I'm open to that there's some stuff I dont fully know. And if that's the case then show me something and back it up. But I'm really tempted to just bow out of this thread, cuz this is ridiculous. It' not worth the ounces of fun there can be around besides it.
No way, I want you all to know how much it urks me. Im not here to debate. I hate seeing bull**** like ive seen here. If you dont care, that's fine. If I see more like it, im outta here. simple as that.Dude, uh... There are presentable ways to argue that something is wrong, and then there is blowing up while hardly injecting all of your reasoning as to why. Debate is totally fine, but this kind of rage isn't. Please relax.
Ill intents dont matter. There's so many people out there that dont even realize how much they bull****. If this can somehow be a wake-up call to it, then good. If not, I expressed myself (including emotionally), and that's what my aim is right now.You seem to have completely ignored the part where I said that A) he isn't doing this for ill intents and B) he's simply sharing his opinion on the info.
He's allowed to have his doubts on Erdrick and believe Geno has a fair shot, so you don't really need to take this as a personal attack