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A Smash speculation board is not without leaks. Can't see the logic of coming here to complain about leaks when we use leaks to commonly discuss things. Maybe putting stock into the speculation to begin with is the problem.
 
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Honestly, if your only excuse for not "leaking" something was "oh well i heard about it I just didn't want to say anything". You didn't know it. It's cool to admit it. Nothing boils my blood more then leakers finding any excuse they can to somehow seem credible when they were obviously wrong.
 
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Honestly, if your only excuse for not "leaking" something was "oh well i heard about it I just didn't want to say anything". You didn't know it. It's cool to admit it.
Actually, that's not why. For Verge, his actual rule is to never leak something unless he's 100% sure of it. He wasn't sure of the Sega character, so he didn't leak it.

Also, some users would rather not leak something to avoid their sources being caught or because they think it might be better if the fanbase didn't know. It's their choice to leak. It's often better they leak nothing since it can at least protect their sources.
 

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Actually, that's not why. For Verge, his actual rule is to never leak something unless he's 100% sure of it. He wasn't sure of the Sega character, so he didn't leak it.

Also, some users would rather not leak something to avoid their sources being caught or because they think it might be better if the fanbase didn't know. It's their choice to leak. It's often better they leak nothing since it can at least protect their sources.
It's the way some of them present it. Some might go that route. And make it obviously clear it didn't sound the most credible so they didn't believe it themselves. But others like verge always comes off as some sort of excuse on why they didn't say anything. Acting like they 100% knew from the start with no proof to back them up but you should still 100% totally believe them even though they didn't say anything.
 
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I still think Dixie is on Sakurai's radar because of the Mii hat. Not to say that confirms or deconfirms Dixie, but Sakurai does have his eye on her. I also think he knows Dixie would be best represented as a stand alone unique fighter because she could have easily been made into a Echo.



I think Ashley's inclusion will all depend on whether Warioware is mighty successful on the Switch or not. If it is, she is a prime contender to get promoted from the Assists in Ultimate if that takes off or the next Smash.



Master Chief is out of the running, so if we get a Microsoft rep it will be either Steve or Banjo & Kazooie. I'm like 90% percent sure one or the other is going to be in the Season Pass.



If we get more than one Season Pass, I would be betting on 3 instead of 6. But I would definitely take 6 though if I had the option too. Also, the 30 slots in the data is just placeholders, it doesn't actually mean we will get 30 more characters. Alts take up those slots as well.



Actually, they would be taking up two slots in the data I believe. Sakurai counts :ultsquirtle:, :ultivysaur:, :ultcharizard: as separate characters despite :ultpokemontrainer: being on the CSS listing as one. And they're are also listed as fighter numbers 33/34/35 in their video on the Smash Bros. website.



That's part of the reason I wanted :ultkrool: in Smash Bros. for so long as well as Goemon, Banjo & Kazooie and Krystal because I don't want to see my favorite video game characters die in obscurity and being forgotten.



Well you all know what to do, let's get into the time machine and transport to the year 2120 to buy our boi.
29 slots. A lot of people love their round numbers around here, I see.

Anyway, forgot about Cranky and Dixie still taking up space, but you get what I mean. A package deal team seems like the best option for those two, seeing as Funky will most likely be an Echo anyway, and getting the rest of the Kongs would be tricky unless they get team setups too. But solo is still best for Dixie and Cranky by themselves, yes.

Same on seeing forgotten characters get immortalized through Smash. They're sitting on a gold mine of characters that could get so much love, and I try to spread out my fondness of them equally, so that many people are aware of them and support them as much as possible. In many ways, it's a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity, and it'll get increasingly harder for higher ups to ignore lower-ranked characters.

Popeye fans are quite lucky, given they don't even have to wait nearly that long.

The latter half of my post was pretty subjective, but I think Mona can implement certain moves based on her jobs, like something with pizza or something (rushed response since I'm going over midterms).
It helps that Mona has gotten a smidgen more promotion through Gold, what with a key art with her wearing a reindeer outfit for the holiday period and her cameo in Young Cricket's spotlight vid. Within WW's pre-Ashley old guard, she has the most chance of being picked.

And besides, seeing as :ultwario:'s moveset is mostly made up anyway, I don't think the double-standard of stuff being hard to come up with for other WW characters can apply.
 
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It's the way some of them present it. Some might go that route. And make it obviously clear it didn't sound the most credible so they didn't believe it themselves. But others like verge always comes off as some sort of excuse on why they didn't say anything. Acting like they 100% knew from the start with no proof to back them up but you should still 100% totally believe them even though they didn't say anything.
And that's why nobody is believing Verg knew it. Because there's no evidence to back it up. So honestly, the issue doesn't exist.
 

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If we get more than one Season Pass, I would be betting on 3 instead of 6. But I would definitely take 6 though if I had the option too. Also, the 30 slots in the data is just placeholders, it doesn't actually mean we will get 30 more characters. Alts take up those slots as well.
Don't worry I wasn't actually being seriously. I was just making a joke
 

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He didn't leak them. And that's what matters. There is no reason to blame him whatsoever. If he didn't leak it, he can't ruin the surprise.

This is getting ridiculously petty now. Stop finding bad excuses. Sounds like he was given vague information, but information he wasn't comfortable with sharing. He only shares information if he's sure it's real(which took a while for him to take this stance).

Thus, it doesn't matter if he had the information or not. Though if what you're trying to say here is that he might be credible for DLC, that's fair. But the fact he didn't give this information before the reveal means we can't really trust the information directly. It could be him lying(I don't believe he is, but we have zero reason to trust that this information was known before the reveal regardless). Don't forget he's backpedaled in the past many times before. It's on his record. This means these kind of statements are rather untrustworthy.

Oh, right, people still thinking he knew about K. Rool in some way. No, what happened is a source told him that there were no new DK characters. What he said to Loz was that he didn't believe them. Loz spread bad information overall. He never knew about K. Rool in any way. You vastly misheard what happened.
The only winning move is not to play. Verge should have known what he was getting himself into when he decided to seek info for the Smash Bros fanbase.

Technically, 28 slots if Piranha Plant's potted alt counts, so our love for round numbers continues. ;)
And somewhere out there, PokéfreakofBACON PokéfreakofBACON is probably cringing a little. Can't blame them, honestly. :drshrug:
 

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God what if we actually get up to 28 DLC characters. Get all the promotional characters for upcoming games out of the way first. Then get to all the fan favorites like Banjo, Geno, Isaac, Phoenix Wright and of course Dig Dug.
 

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God what if we actually get up to 28 DLC characters. Get all the promotional characters for upcoming games out of the way first. Then get to all the fan favorites like Banjo, Geno, Isaac, Phoenix Wright and of course Dig Dug.
Earlier today I briefly thought how hilarious it would be if Mr. Driller was Brave.

While I'm not sure whether we'll get 20+ characters, the last time Smash had leftover ID slots for DLC, all of them were filled up. They even added an extra one. So, there is some sort of precedent to it.
 
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Technically, 28 slots if Piranha Plant's potted alt counts, so our love for round numbers continues. ;)
I don't think color palettes take up slots, I think only alternate alts do.

God what if we actually get up to 28 DLC characters. Get all the promotional characters for upcoming games out of the way first. Then get to all the fan favorites like Banjo, Geno, Isaac, Phoenix Wright and of course Dig Dug.
The hype train would be rolling for a long time. Banjo & Kazooie and Geno will definitely get in if we get 28 more newcomers as DLC. But the characters that are Assists? I don't know.
 
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The potted alts are considered alternate alts. Just like female Villager and Construction Mario. They're model changes.
 
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The potted alts are considered alternate alts. Just like female Villager and Construction Mario. They're model changes.
Vergeben will be a DLC character and two of his alts will be Hitagi and xenother

And vice versa
 
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Okay guys, who you guys think Verg's Classic Mode boss would be? I think it would be Square-Enix because they might want to kill him for leaking their character.
 
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Okay guys, who you guys think Verg's Classic Mode boss would be? I think it would be Square-Enix because they might want to kill him for leaking their character.
Square Enix, Joker because Verge didn't know about him, the Smash community, GameFaqs, the Smash Ultimate cartridge, and the Grinch
 
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The thing with alts is, even if every Fighter's Pass character has four alts, that's only 20 of those slots filled, leaving 8, and we know that Joker likely won't get more than two (maskless, masked). Reggie's also stated that DLC alt costumes are not on the table right now. It makes me wonder if we're getting misc. fighters outside of the pass, either echoes or not.
 

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Square Enix, Joker because Verge didn't know about him, the Smash community, GameFaqs, and the Smash Ultimate cartridge
I don't know if GameFaqs would be one of his enemies or his boss because most of them were enjoying the deconfirmations of the fan favorite characters.
 
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Reggie's also stated that DLC alt costumes are not on the table right now.
Really?

Doesn't that mean that any leak claiming to know the alts of DLC characters (like how Tansut claims that Eddy is DLC and you can play as a female version of the character) is debunked?

I don't know if GameFaqs would be one of his enemies or his boss because most of them were enjoying the deconfirmations of the fan favorite characters.
Well, while GameFaqs is awful, Verge had to deal with lots of hate from there when the Grinch leak came out and when he was wrong about the SE rep being the first revealed
 

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Really?

Doesn't that mean that any leak claiming to know the alts of DLC characters (like how Tansut claims that Eddy is DLC and you can play as a female version of the character) is debunked?



Well, while GameFaqs is awful, Verge had to deal with lots of hate from there when the Grinch leak came out and when he was wrong about the SE rep being the first revealed
That makes sense.
 

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Really?

Doesn't that mean that any leak claiming to know the alts of DLC characters (like how Tansut claims that Eddy is DLC and you can play as a female version of the character) is debunked?
Pretty sure he meant they wouldn't be making alts for existing characters DLC. Like we won't be seeing wedding bowser.
 

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Pretty sure he meant they wouldn't be making alts for existing characters DLC. Like we won't be seeing wedding bowser.
Exactly. This has nothing to do with DLC characters, only existing characters and new alts for them. (RIP my desire for wedding Peach because my gay ass wants that so bad.)
 

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The thing with alts is, even if every Fighter's Pass character has four alts, that's only 20 of those slots filled, leaving 8, and we know that Joker likely won't get more than two (maskless, masked). Reggie's also stated that DLC alt costumes are not on the table right now. It makes me wonder if we're getting misc. fighters outside of the pass, either echoes or not.
Where'd he say this?
 

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Where'd he say this?
God, I wish I could find the interview. It's buried under the numerous interviews somewhere, and I've never been able to find it — but I know I've seen it. Unfortunately, you'll just have to take my word for it for now, and I'll link the article if I ever find it.
 

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Really?

Doesn't that mean that any leak claiming to know the alts of DLC characters (like how Tansut claims that Eddy is DLC and you can play as a female version of the character) is debunked?



Well, while GameFaqs is awful, Verge had to deal with lots of hate from there when the Grinch leak came out and when he was wrong about the SE rep being the first revealed
Yeah the hate and attitude in GameFaqs are horrendous. Verge gives out a leak and the response from that site mostly feels like "F U and go away" lol
It can't be denied, when Verge speaks... we listen
 
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Huh I went to go double check and they actually did remove it. But the news sites that reported on it say it was just the one Mii Costume.
They also say "exact dates TBD" though.

It's weird why they say that there is only one Mii costume but also say that multiple days are to be decided
 

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They also say "exact dates TBD" though.

It's weird why they say that there is only one Mii costume but also say that multiple days are to be decided
I feel like it might be a first party mii costume for the price. No way they are going to charge only .75 for a third party mii costume.
 
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I feel like it might be a first party mii costume for the price. No way they are going to charge only .75 for a third party mii costume.
That's a good point. It's probably the Rex Mii costume, and maybe other Mii costume(s) for a potential first party DLC franchise
 
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Huh I went to go double check and they actually did remove it. But the news sites that reported on it say it was just the one Mii Costume.
Interesting, Geno as a Mii costume cost was a bit higher for Smash 4.
Costs USD$1.50 if purchased for a specific system, or if purchased for both the 3DS and Wii U, costs $2.30.

Isn't there a special significance on the cost and how it relates to Geno? I thought 2.30 meant something... I might be dreaming
 
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