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Geno (♥♪!?): Return of the Starsend Savior

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etano

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When is Direct coming? Also, would love to see Scorpion in smash, I know it has been talked about before with people hoping he would be in it but it would not fit the system with how violent he is. Would love to check out Metroid. But i'm always hoping for the Animal Crossing Switch news, will forever have my hopes up on that game.
 
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Looma

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METROID PRIME 4 PLEEAAASE

I'm still sour from getting stiffed at the VGAs. Damn you Geoff, I sat through that whole freakin thing and I didn't even get any Metroid for my suffering.
 

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I can’t ever see a Mortal Kombat character get in. Fatalities are just way too essential to the franchise and the characters.

I don’t think I need to explain why having scorpion rip pichu’s head off with the spine still attached, or sub zero freeze half a character’s body followed by knocking the other half clean off in a bloody mess, wouldn’t be a good fit in smash.
 

Ovaltine

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i mean y'all can complain that ppl are writing off the possibility of geno, but the dlc leaks seem pretty conclusive to me. it's less hate and more people understanding that character speculation should be winding down
Erdrick seems about 90% conclusive to me, but... I really hope you aren't referring to the Ryu Hayabusa/Steve/Doom Marine leak in the same vein. There is literally no evidence for that leak being a thing, and it's just a run-of-the-mill text leak that people started to cling to for very little reason. I say this as someone who would like Ryu Hayabusa and especially the Doom Marine, too. It's a little silly to say that one is conclusive in any sense of the word.
 

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its a weird reasoning but when gamexplain reports on something I typically write it off as true because they have connections

plus just with the direction the dlc is going with 3rd parties, all three of those make too much sense
 
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i mean y'all can complain that ppl are writing off the possibility of geno, but the dlc leaks seem pretty conclusive to me. it's less hate and more people understanding that character speculation should be winding down
You know that no one knew about Joker, right?
 

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its a weird reasoning but when gamexplain reports on something I typically write it off as true because they have connections
Jon from Gamexplain, the one especially considered to have insider connections, also was certain about Shadow for base game and Geno for DLC, as well as a Tetronimo. We never got those.

They aren't infallible in the slightest.
 
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its a weird reasoning but when gamexplain reports on something I typically write it off as true because they have connections

plus just with the direction the dlc is going with 3rd parties, all three of those make too much sense
You eat up leaks too quickly my dude
 
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honestly a lot of it has to do with the reported dlc roster just making a lot of sense. Doom is the smallest franchise being added (hypothetically), which is crazy
I don't think you know that no one predicted Joker
 

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Doom is the smallest franchise being added (hypothetically
Doom being considered the smallest franchise compared to the likes of Persona and Ninja Gaiden/DoA when its iconicness spreads across multiple generations and is undeniably one of the biggest game-changers in video game history?

Sorry, dude, but I don't think you realize how big a deal Doom is. Keep your hopes tempered. If this leak ends up being fake, you're going to be very disappointed.
 

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oh i really don't care if it's fake tbh, I've never played a doom, ninja gaiden, persona, or dragon quest game, and think minecraft is dumb. I just think it's logical. and like doom is huge, but ninja gaiden, persona (or atlus), and dragon quest all have like 20 games under their belt. and minecraft is minecraft
 

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I remember reading an article saying that the Nintendo World Store was hosting a private event tomorrow, so I theorize the Direct will be either Wednesda or Thursday.

I'm expecting gameplay of Joker and hopefully a tease for whoever Brave is. Hopefully...
 

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Something Metroid related.
More FE 3 Houses info + a release date.
A New Mario Strikers game (since they already did Tennis)
Bayonetta 3 would be nice.
Piranha Plant release date.
Next reveal for Ultimate DLC.

Also hi Geno thread.
Forgot to add on some 3rd party wishes:

DQXIS finally gets a release date (it's been far too long)
Bravely Third is announced/teased for Switch (please)
Granblue Fantasy Versus gets a Switch port announced (pretty please)
Sypro Reignited Trilogy for Switch announced/gets a release date
Maybe MK11, but we're literally getting a community reveal Thursday, so it's not really needed
 
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Forgot to add on some 3rd party wishes:

DQXIS finally gets a release date (it's been far too long)
Bravely Third is announced/teased for Switch (please)
Granblue Fantasy Versus gets a Switch port announced (pretty please)
Sypro Reignited Trilogy for Switch announced/gets a release date
Maybe MK11, but we're literally getting a community reveal Thursday, so it's not really needed
One more thing you forgot to add

localization of a certain 3rd game in a certain series
 

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oh i really don't care if it's fake tbh, I've never played a doom, ninja gaiden, persona, or dragon quest game, and think minecraft is dumb. I just think it's logical. and like doom is huge, but ninja gaiden, persona (or atlus), and dragon quest all have like 20 games under their belt. and minecraft is minecraft
The choices may seem logical, but that is exactly what the problem is. These are the kinds of wild, yet logical guesses people have been making for a while, and they were blown out of the water with Joker's reveal. The fact that people are believing in 'safe bets' is what got them flipped on their heads at the VGAs. Along with that, apart from the weird case of Erdrick, an NoA insider literally said that no one knows the DLC. Info is coming out as they are being developed. The leak comes with a lot of attached fiction and reasoning behind it, as well, which is 9 times out of 10 the sign of a fake leak.

I'll let you in on a little secret when it comes to Gamexplain, too: a 40 minute video making guesses on the leak and making it seem so enticing is because that's what they do to make their bread. That prints money. All those mid-roll advertisements from people clinging to a leak is what gets them that dosh. The only reason they never covered certain leaks like the Grinch one is because they knew for a fact that it was fake. They've covered many fake leaks like this in the past, and this won't stop them now.

Do they have insider info? To an extent, yes. Are they infallible? No. Are their certainties something I believe in? No, as they've done this many a time in the past. After all, if they show all of their cards so handily, do you really think Nintendo would keep their open affiliation with them? They have to play their cards carefully. This leak contradicts information we know from insiders about DLC knowledge and even words from Sakurai himself about how far into development the DLC is. It could be something that's nuanced and is real, but it could easily be fake, as well.

Leaks like these are taken with a grain of salt for a reason. Don't discount them entirely, but don't cling to them. Given the track record of leaks like these in particular, too, my bet is this one is fake, even if I'm not 100% on it being so. Temper your expectations and don't argue like unproven leaks without any evidence are absolute fact. It's a very flawed approach.
 

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Fair enough, I'm pretty familiar with leak culture so I get it could obviously be fake. Part of it is I'm kind of burnt out from all the fake leak debating leading up to this game, so I'm kind of taking a different approach with how I handle leaks.

But I promise you my expectations are tempered. I really don't see any spirits making it as dlc tho, seems counter-intuitive.

and just cuz I haven't played the games doesn't mean I don't understand the impact they had, it takes more than a game simply being "well-known"
 
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KirbyWorshipper2465

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I'm on the "I want something proven wrong about any of the leaks so we're allowed to speculate about more than four characters again" train. That's what kills me. There's a hard freeze on speculation that isn't Erdrick, Ryu, Steve, and Doomguy and it's going to be awful if this is all the community is willing to seriously talk about until E3.
Yeah. It's really sad how it seems that people in general are such sheep now that they're willing to believe any text leak that involves Joker in it. And people must wonder why I never came back to the Ultimate general thread.

Also, no Direct announcements today, how delightful. :glare:

I need this so bad, you have absolutely no idea. Gimme gimme.
Unfortunately, that'll have to wait, since Next Level is busy doing Luigi's Mansion: Yet Another Helping Of King Boo's Gullible Soup.

The choices may seem logical, but that is exactly what the problem is. These are the kinds of wild, yet logical guesses people have been making for a while, and they were blown out of the water with Joker's reveal. The fact that people are believing in 'safe bets' is what got them flipped on their heads at the VGAs. Along with that, apart from the weird case of Erdrick, an NoA insider literally said that no one knows the DLC. Info is coming out as they are being developed. The leak comes with a lot of attached fiction and reasoning behind it, as well, which is 9 times out of 10 the sign of a fake leak.

I'll let you in on a little secret when it comes to Gamexplain, too: a 40 minute video making guesses on the leak and making it seem so enticing is because that's what they do to make their bread. That prints money. All those mid-roll advertisements from people clinging to a leak is what gets them that dosh. The only reason they never covered certain leaks like the Grinch one is because they knew for a fact that it was fake. They've covered many fake leaks like this in the past, and this won't stop them now.

Do they have insider info? To an extent, yes. Are they infallible? No. Are their certainties something I believe in? No, as they've done this many a time in the past. After all, if they show all of their cards so handily, do you really think Nintendo would keep their open affiliation with them? They have to play their cards carefully. This leak contradicts information we know from insiders about DLC knowledge and even words from Sakurai himself about how far into development the DLC is. It could be something that's nuanced and is real, but it could easily be fake, as well.

Leaks like these are taken with a grain of salt for a reason. Don't discount them entirely, but don't cling to them. Given the track record of leaks like these in particular, too, my bet is this one is fake, even if I'm not 100% on it being so. Temper your expectations and don't argue like unproven leaks without any evidence are absolute fact. It's a very flawed approach.
Also, people think they figured out what Sakurai's releasing next, but there is one problem: they have no idea what his thought process is.


Direct incoming?
I'd ask again on Wednesday or so.
 
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they really do need to localize mother 3. also something like 5 fire emblem games.
What I want to know:

Why haven't they localized Fire Emblem 6 yet? Or, no, why not remake it and 7 and fill out that whole story of Elibe for the West? Aaaarrrgh.
 

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Forgot to add on some 3rd party wishes:

DQXIS finally gets a release date (it's been far too long)
Bravely Third is announced/teased for Switch (please)
Granblue Fantasy Versus gets a Switch port announced (pretty please)
Sypro Reignited Trilogy for Switch announced/gets a release date
Maybe MK11, but we're literally getting a community reveal Thursday, so it's not really needed
Also add Bloodstained getting a bleeding release date already.

Oh, and another Wii U game port or two.
 
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What I want to know:

Why haven't they localized Fire Emblem 6 yet? Or, no, why not remake it and 7 and fill out that whole story of Elibe for the West? Aaaarrrgh.
I want to know why they haven't localized Mother 3 yet!!!!
 

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Fire Emblem 6 will assuredly happen, it's just a matter of time. It's the earlier ones I'm more worried they'll ignore, but maybe they'll give them the echoes treatment.

Wouldn't mind a rerelease of Path of Radiance either...
 
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Fire Emblem 6 will assuredly happen, it's just a matter of time. It's the earlier ones I'm more worried they'll ignore, but maybe they'll give them the echoes treatment.
Yeah, it honestly makes you wonder what makes it so difficult to justify translating older games from scratch when things like Monster World 4 got official ones. It's not like anyone's expecting them to do Super Robot Wars.
 

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Is Brave shorter than Mario or shorter than Luigi, because that's actually kind of an important distinction. Shorter than Mario is short short, to the point where I'd doubt it's Erdrick, since not even Young Link is that short.
 
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Is Brave shorter than Mario or shorter than Luigi, because that's actually kind of an important distinction. Shorter than Mario is short short, to the point where I'd doubt it's Erdrick, since not even Young Link is that short.
Yes, brave is a smidge shorter than Mario
 
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