Geno (♥♪!?): Return of the Starsend Savior

[Deleted member]

No, he doesn't? lol? Don't know where anyone would get that idea. He's only a spirit.

Don't you just love a good game of telephone?

Anyway, the original user was saying that Rayman seems like he would be a poor fit as a Mii Gunner costume.

Oh, my bad lol

 

[OptimisticStrifer]

Personally; I try to play most of the characters. I certainly have favorites; but I wouldn't necessarily say it's because of how "good" they are. I can be passable at most characters, bar Jiggly, Rosalina and Olimar, so I just play with whoever I feel like in the moment tbh.

 

[Deleted member]

If Geno and Ninten get in I will main the **** out of them even if they are the lowest tiers

 

[Datboigeno]

That's what sucks too, especially to someone like me that's pretty much been around for every major speculation cycle. Four of my five most wanted characters are now in Smash but nobody really cares about any of them outside of memes. () This is especially apparent with the Pokemon characters. People haven't cared about and in the longest time. Honestly, you can probably count of two hands the number of Smash characters that have meaningful fan followings that don't dampen no matter how they are on the tier list and most of them were added by Melee. This is why I think the Smash series is honestly reaching critical mass and that the next game will probably have a ton of cuts.

I agree with you to a point. It does kind of suck to see everyone kind of drop a lot of the hype for Ridley a few reveals in especially as soon as he was said to be low-tier. That said I think this is the reality for most fighting games that I’ve seen in recent years not just SSBU. People obsessively campaign for specific characters on social media to the point of being kind of toxic to other fans and people who want other characters, said character gets in because of vocal fans, and people stop caring and move onto the next kind of popular character not yet in the game. I’m a big fan of Mortal Kombat and Injustice and saw this happen several times in those communities. For I2 people wouldn’t shut the **** up about Red Hood and Starfire and once they got in people wouldn’t stop shrieking over Beast Boy and Spawn.

But you know the silver lining of that situation and SSBU? It shows devs do listen to fans. Even if a lot of fan support for specific characters is a bit fair weather and bandwagon-y at the end of the day the people who are truly fans of the character get to enjoy said character to their hearts content. And it just makes it even sweeter when they get gud at said favorite character and annihilate characters people are picking only because a tier list told them to.

Like I’m a Megaman/Mewtwo main and honestly I like the fact that when I go online I’m rarely facing off against opponents that have picked the same character. Because 1. It makes me feel like a special little snowflake for not just following trends and 2. People haven’t faced my character a billion times and therefore are genuinely surprised with some of the moves I pull off.

 

[FalconFire93]

Pretty much the only other characters that would make me lose my mind by getting in Smash as DLC besides Geno:

Dante (Devil May Cry)
Dragonborn (Skyrim)
Banjo-Kazooie
Crash Bandicoot
Spyro
Sora
Porky Minch
Doom Guy (Doom)
Tails
Rayman

 

[Klimax]

I hate how true this comic is. It kind of pains me that Ridley was wanted for so long and that most people stopped caring once he got in because he's not top tier. I really hope this doesn't happen to Geno but this honestly does happen with a lot of popular picks. I can already tell that K. Rool is going to go the route of Dedede in Brawl and get notably worse as time goes on, even if he isn't nerfed. Megaman, Robin, Pac-Man, and Little Mac are all now super niche despite once being big characters in Smash speculation. Mewtwo, Bayonetta, Corrin, and Rosalina are not as good as their Smash 4 counterparts so their support has plummeted. Bowser Jr was resented almost right out of the gate despite a goofy amount of effort going into him and the Koopalings. I suppose that this is one of the ugly aspects of the Smash fandom is that most character fanbases hollow themselves out if the character isn't super good or at least meme-y like Dedede. Of course there's exceptions like Roy (who's ironically now stupid good after nearly 20 years) but the truth is that not a lot of Smash fans are character loyalists and jump ship if the character isn't perceived as being good.

Lol this is so true and it sucks, I was talking about it with a friend just a few days ago. Now that K Rool and Ridley are in, people will never talk about them like they did when they were not playable. Now, they're just there.
But I don't think people "don't care" about the characters anymore, we know for a fact that the fans wouldn't accept a cut and would be vocal about it. But it's like people who love members of their family once they're dead (that's more complicated but you get the idea).

But to be honest, I don't give a **** about it, I wanted K Rool and Pac-Man since i knew Smash Bros and I'm still ****in happy about their inclusion. And I will always be a huge Geno's fan.

 

[Deleted member]

Besides Geno, characters who would make me lose my mind are:
Ninten

Honorable mentions (assist trophies included):
Porky
Tails
Claus/MM
Gieugue
Shantae
Sans
Banjo-Kazooie
Rayman
Crono
Ryu Hayabusa
Phoenix Wright
BWD
Isaac
Waluigi

 

[Xigger]

They're not fading away altogether, that's not the argument. The argument is that the Smash fanbase really doesn't stick with a whole lot of characters, with most being niche if they're not top/high tier. Yeah, it's kind of like Pokemon in which you could technically find fans of every single one of the almost 900 buggers but the active support honestly disappears. Wario probably had a Smash fan following as big as Ridley before he got in but even when he was considered one of the better characters in Brawl his following was still small because most people considered his playstyle "weird." If they're technical most people bounce. If they're perceived as "bad", most people don't stick with them and good luck finding loyalists if they have a particularly bad matchup against a top tier (Cloud and Bayonetta all but killed Villager's appeal in SSB4, for example). I remember they even collected data on it for Smash 4 and most tournament goers were using like a 1/4th of the cast, again, with most being characters who had been in since at least Melee. Like I said, the argument isn't that people altogether stop caring about them, it's that most just become "one of more than 70 characters" once they're added for most of the fanbase and it kind of trivializes everything that got them in to begin with. Most of the fanbase really isn't super attached to a lot of the characters and I think this is what this is getting at.

To be fair, there are a surprising number of reasons why the newer fighters aren't as popular: Smash adds a lot of niche and one-shot characters, Smash adds controversial picks like Corrin/Dr.Mario/Dark Pit, Smash ruins moveset potential with Ganondorf, Wario, and Dark Samus, and the plain reason that veteran fighters are more familiar to play with and play against. We've spent more time with them.

You're still definitely right, but it sounds like you want to be around people who love the game more than tournaments. Especially if you're talking about how people stopped playing Villager because of Cloud and Bayonetta, that's a sign that you don't enjoy that scene. You might enjoy playing with people for fun. With items.

 

[Datboigeno]

Tbh other than Geno Banjo is the only other character I’d be extremely hype for/might genuinely get emotional over getting in.

 

[3DSNinja]

NAh, Hollow Knight and BDee would make me so happy. I would be so excited with HYPE!

 

[Deleted member]

Besides Geno, Shantae and Crash Bandicoot would make me never ask Sakurai for anything again. Especially Crash, he's basically my childhood hero.

 

[Jovahexeon Joranvexeon]

Besides Geno, Shantae and Crash Bandicoot would make me never ask Sakurai for anything again. Especially Crash, he's basically my childhood hero.

Throw in Phoenix Wright, and those 4 would make perfect Season Pass companions with Joker.

 

[KirbyWorshipper2465]

Also, one has to be able to tell how many fans of a character were actually bandwagoners in the first place. Meanwhile, Gamefaqs is...the complete opposite. They vehemently hate on a character until they get in, shrug, and move on to the next one.

Come to think of it, I've never been particularly fussy about who gets in, so there aren't too much characters I wouldn't be genuinely excited about, to some degree.

 

[valkiriforce]

That's part of the thing that's sad about characters - I was really hoping at least Wolf would return before all of this and sure enough he was brought back along with everyone else at E3. People were excited for a while that he's back, and I'm sure there are people out there like me who are still very much relieved that he returned, but I don't see a whole lot of activity on the board for his character save for occasional competitive talk. I've been having fun playing him and taking some videos/screens and whatnot, but there's not much more I can think to contribute. I'm not really that in-depth when it comes to competitive Smash, since I only ever play it by myself or maybe with friends. For a while I've actually been thinking about this concerning Geno, and wondering if ever he does make it into Smash I wonder how long that new feeling is gonna last and how many people will be left to talk about it.

 

[PokéfreakofBACON]

I get excited about pretty much any character joining. Seeing a trailer for a new smash character always makes me smile, no matter who it is, unless I have a personal vendetta against the character for some reason. (This has only happened twice with Corrin and Bayonetta for the record. It'd happen again if Erdrick got in or some FE character)

 

[Ovaltine]

I believe that Geno getting in and hype dying down would ultimately not be a problem, because let's be real here. If he doesn't get in, unless a miracle happens with Square's involvement in the Mario series, he's going to just... stay dead until possibly next Smash, wherein he still might not make it. If he does get in, yes, the initial hypestorm will eventually die down, but he'll be in the public eye again. He'll be marketable for Nintendo and Square again. He'll gain more widespread recognition and likability. If K. Rool is any indicator, it's a great chance to revive him from the dead and bring him back to his home series, too. Given Nintendo's pleased reaction to K. Rool's success, I have no doubt that they'll find him marketable for the DKC series again. (I'm a Kutthroat, so I'm SUPER excited about the possibility!)

Even if things die down after a while, we will have won. He will be back, and this time, it'll be way harder to just let him die out again. At the very least, NoA, NoJ (for even allowing the purchasing of his rights for the Mii costume and spirit anyway, as well as the whole big splash screen), and even Square (using him potentially as leak bait) realize that we want him back. We've made huge strides. If we keep fighting, we can make even more.

 

[Deleted member]

I get excited about pretty much any character joining. Seeing a trailer for a new smash character always makes me smile, no matter who it is, unless I have a personal vendetta against the character for some reason. (This has only happened twice with Corrin and Bayonetta for the record. It'd happen again if Erdrick got in or some FE character)

Same. Though characters like Eddy, I would be happy for his fans. Same thing for Steve and Slime. Even though I don't Steve and Slime, I would be happy for their fans

 

[PokéfreakofBACON]

Same. Though characters like Eddy, I would be happy for his fans. Same thing for Steve and Slime. Even though I don't Steve and Slime, I would be happy for their fans

For me, I get excited because of possible moveset potential. I didn't want Incineroar, but his moveset is awesome, so it made me excited. Slime and Steve would inherently have really unique awesome movesets. I got excited for Joker despite never playing Persona or SMT. I just like smash bros

 

[Deleted member]

For me, I get excited because of possible moveset potential. I didn't want Incineroar, but his moveset is awesome, so it made me excited. Slime and Steve would inherently have really unique awesome movesets. I got excited for Joker despite never playing Persona or SMT. I just like smash bros

I like smash bros too :D I agree with you on Incineroar. I didn't want him, but he is a lot of fun to play. Except for his recovery. It's just god awful.

Joker was insanely hype. I am going to be paying attention to how many views his trailer gets as well. It'll be interesting to compare it to Cloud's and Bayonetta's

 

[ARandomZoomer]

Just throwing in my own two cents in but tbh getting in smashbros should inherently kill a lot of discussion about the said character in general. It fulfills the desire for their said character and ends speculation along the arguments brought with the two things. All of of which amounts to a ton of discussion.
Simply put sometimes there is more to say about the potential of something than about the thing itself imo

 

[Ovaltine]

Just throwing in my own two cents in but tbh getting in smashbros should inherently kill a lot of discussion about the said character in general. It fulfills the desire for their said character and ends speculation along the arguments brought with the two things. All of of which amounts to a ton of discussion.
Simply put sometimes there is more to say about the potential of something than about the thing itself imo

Naw. Maybe on Smashboards, yes, but since Ridley and K. Rool got in, I've seen them all over discussion. Smash headcanons, Smash art, their respective futures in their series (especially for K. Rool), and just... explosions of content.

Trust me, it definitely brings them out more into the limelight.

 

[KirbyWorshipper2465]

Naw. Maybe on Smashboards, yes, but since Ridley and K. Rool got in, I've seen them all over discussion. Smash headcanons, Smash art, their respective futures in their series (especially for K. Rool), and just... explosions of content.

Trust me, it definitely brings them out more into the limelight.

Heck, just check Deviantart alone. You could count the number of fan art Richter had before he got confirmed.

 

[Tetrin]

Characters we'd lose our minds over? For me:

Geno (obviously)
Neku
Porky/Masked Man either is great
Skull Kid
Ashley
Isaac
Isa Jo
The Knight (Hollow Knight)
The Kid (Bastion)
Jill Valentine
Sora

 

[ARandomZoomer]

Naw. Maybe on Smashboards, yes, but since Ridley and K. Rool got in, I've seen them all over discussion. Smash headcanons, Smash art, their respective futures in their series (especially for K. Rool), and just... explosions of content.

Trust me, it definitely brings them out more into the limelight.

Oh I don't doubt that. I should've been more specific. I meant as smashbros character by itself not really in respect to their own series.

 

[TooManyToastahs]

Sorry if this is off topic, but I was playing some Smash today with my friends and my friend asked me about the name I used (I made my name on Smash the heart, music note, exclamation mark and question mark), and asked if I was a Sky Williams fan.

I remembered hearing about his name from Dunkey, so when I looked at his twitter, lo and behold, turns out he’s a Geno fan. He even made a cool thread that I’ll link below.

https://mobile.twitter.com/skywilliams/status/1030564262815485952?lang=en

 

[Ovaltine]

Sorry if this is off topic, but I was playing some Smash today with my friends and my friend asked me about the name I used (I made my name on Smash the heart, music note, exclamation mark and question mark), and asked if I was a Sky Williams fan.

I remembered hearing about his name from Dunkey, so when I looked at his twitter, lo and behold, turns out he’s a Geno fan. He even made a cool thread that I’ll link below.

https://mobile.twitter.com/skywilliams/status/1030564262815485952?lang=en

Holy hell, he's a MASSIVE Geno fan, too. Wow. That's... honestly pretty incredible. I love that!

Anyhow, I've conjured up a very heartfelt letter that I've personally sent, with all peace and love and no vitriol, to Nintendo and Square with my feelings for what they've blessed us with and my hopes that Geno will one day return to us, whether it's in Smash or not. I've sourced our darling thread in the letter, as well, for the numbers... kinda speak for themselves. The fan polls, this, the Mii costume, the Smash ballot...

It's not a matter of if Geno gets revived at this point, I feel. It's a matter of when. It may not be in Smash Ultimate, but the outpouring of love and demand for Geno is just going to get harder and harder for them to ignore. It makes me so happy to see so many people loving our star boy. We can't let that love train stop!

 

[skydogc]

Besides Geno, characters who would make me lose my mind are:
Ninten

Honorable mentions (assist trophies included):
Porky
Tails
Claus/MM
Gieugue
Shantae
Sans
Banjo-Kazooie
Rayman
Crono
Ryu Hayabusa
Phoenix Wright
BWD
Isaac
Waluigi

Yet in a weird yet true to Nintendo fashion, we'd end up getting Birdo

 

[ForsakenM]

Hell, Phoenix Wright in UMVC3 is considered one of the lower tier characters in that game, but did that stop or lower talks about him, let alone demands for him to return in Infinite? Hell no.

I've got a bit of an argument to support this, regarding Phoenix Wright. Anyone here know Lythero? Despite PW being seen as a bad character, Lythero played him because he wanted to, along with Dante and Viewtiful Joe. Lythero became a nightmare to face for most people. Sure, he had that 'no one plays this guy, how do I beat him?' tech going for him for a little while, but even when people started figuring out how to counter him he was still a monster.

In fact, it lead to other players getting on that level of 'git gud' with PW as well, to where you could find multiple people who were really skilled with PW. Also, not playing top-tier characters immediately makes you an underdog, and who loves an underdog? The crowd, of course. Notice how most people tend to root for the guy who made it so far in the tournament using a character no one even thought could make it that far?

This is the kind of love Ridley and other characters can easily get, and when you encounter someone who beats you with that underused character, you have nothing but respect for them because you KNOW how many hours they put into it to get that good.

Like I’m a Megaman/Mewtwo main and honestly I like the fact that when I go online I’m rarely facing off against opponents that have picked the same character. Because 1. It makes me feel like a special little snowflake for not just following trends and 2. People haven’t faced my character a billion times and therefore are genuinely surprised with some of the moves I pull off.

While I'm not sure it's a GOOD thing to feel like a special snowflake, I understand that feeling that comes from playing a newer character. The problem is that it's a fake feeling: you feel like you are actually getting good with minimal effort put in when it's actually just that players who are much better than you in general don't have match-up knowledge yet.

This leads into something that I very much dislike, which is people who make content eventually complain about a character 'being bad' just because the newness has worn off and people have learned to counter the new kid on the block. It doesn't mean the character is bad, it just means that you need to put in actual effort now to advance rather than piggyback off of a lack of experience on your opponent's part.

As for characters who aren't played as much but aren't new, this is a similar sensation but without as much negative connotation: If you whoop someone with Dan Hibiki because you play Dan and this guy rarely faces any, it's no longer about the player taking advantage of knowledge that players possibly don't eve have yet, but it's now on your opponent's shoulders to remember his counterplay for your lesser-played character. That is feeling I can respect.

Kudos to playing Megaman btw. I've tried him but I need a balance of projectiles and other attacks and his kit just doesn't appeal to me. I feel like a mostly brain-dead ape every time I pick him up.

I get excited about pretty much any character joining. Seeing a trailer for a new smash character always makes me smile, no matter who it is, unless I have a personal vendetta against the character for some reason. (This has only happened twice with Corrin and Bayonetta for the record. It'd happen again if Erdrick got in or some FE character)

For me, I get excited because of possible moveset potential. I didn't want Incineroar, but his moveset is awesome, so it made me excited. Slime and Steve would inherently have really unique awesome movesets. I got excited for Joker despite never playing Persona or SMT. I just like smash bros

Oh my god, someone who I can relate with! WOOO!

My reason for getting hype at most character reveals is a combination of seeing the cool stuff the new character can do and the idea that someone somewhere really wanted that character in the game, so I get hype because someone else got what they wanted. I was hype all through the reveals and as another someone who has never played SMT or Persona, I lost my mind because even I knew this was big.

 

[Deleted member]

Also, not playing top-tier characters immediately makes you an underdog, and who loves an underdog? The crowd, of course.

The crowd loves underdogs. Geno is an underdog

 

[domriver]

Tbh other than Geno Banjo is the only other character I’d be extremely hype for/might genuinely get emotional over getting in.

Im in the same boat - Geno or Banjo-Kazooie will reveal will make me very emotional because of nostalgia reasons. I really cant think of any other character that will do that for me.
I guess i can mention a few who would probably make me excited but not to the levels of geno and banjo.
Sigma
Marina Liteyear
Joe & Mac
Mother Brain (SNES Body Form)
Evil Resident Character (Main)
Fatal Frame Character (Main)
Tron Bonne
Dr. Robotnik
Tails
B.B Hood <--- maybe Geno/Banjo excitement levels. xD would love her.

I think thats it to be honest. all others like
Madam Broodal
Spyro
Rayman
Doom
are just mmm cool character reveals.

 

[Ovaltine]

Honestly, if we have such big name tourney heads like Sky Williams even asking for Geno in Smash, big freaking names, it really makes me wonder why Nintendo would just dump out a spirit as a consolation prize and leave it at that. Even with the Mii outfit returning, it just feels like such a middle finger, especially since they and Square definitely know that a lot of people want him. People really understate his popularity. It isn't insanely huge like Ridley (as in both his popularity and his actual mass), but it's definitely bigger than most. Seeing that thread Sky Williams made just makes me feel that much more baffled, and looking at this thread and looking back at the campaigning for K. Rool...

It just feels so odd. K. Rool and Isabelle? Compensation Mii costumes in 4 (and, in K. Rool's case, because of the ballot), in roster in Ultimate. Geno? Compensation Mii costume in 4 because of the ballot, downgrade to a PNG in Ultimate, may have to repurchase just his Mii costume.

I just feel really sad going over this and my pessimism couldn't be any worse at this point. It feels so hopeless? Like... we've been fighting so hard for years, so many of us, and it just feels all for naught. Ugh.

 

[KoopaSaki]

I can just say that if any of these characters make it in as future dlc, my hype would explode. Some of these characters I’ve wanted in since the brawl days.
Geno
Isaac
Rayman
Shantae
Banjo and Kazooie
Lloyd irving
Ray 01
Ashley
Saki or Isa jo
Andy (I would like a new advance wars game!)

 

[Jovahexeon Joranvexeon]

it really makes me wonder why Nintendo would just dump out a spirit as a consolation prize and leave it at that.

I can think of an easy answer: Square Enix. If they said no, then that would be that.

I've got a bit of an argument to support this, regarding Phoenix Wright. Anyone here know Lythero? Despite PW being seen as a bad character, Lythero played him because he wanted to, along with Dante and Viewtiful Joe. Lythero became a nightmare to face for most people. Sure, he had that 'no one plays this guy, how do I beat him?' tech going for him for a little while, but even when people started figuring out how to counter him he was still a monster.

In fact, it lead to other players getting on that level of 'git gud' with PW as well, to where you could find multiple people who were really skilled with PW. Also, not playing top-tier characters immediately makes you an underdog, and who loves an underdog? The crowd, of course. Notice how most people tend to root for the guy who made it so far in the tournament using a character no one even thought could make it that far?

Ah! You also know of the legendary Lythero. He was part of my inspiration when I finally got my hands on UMVC3 (in love of Phoenix Wright).

And yes, you're absolutely right! Even lower tiers can still get talked up, when a notable force helps them right!

This is the kind of love Ridley and other characters can easily get, and when you encounter someone who beats you with that underused character, you have nothing but respect for them because you KNOW how many hours they put into it to get that good.

ALL too true. I've actually run into a fair amount of Ridley players myself included. He's rightfully vicious in the right hands, heck his LVL 9 CPU AI alone can show how it's done if Alpharad's recent tournament is anything to go by!

 

[Ovaltine]

I can think of an easy answer: Square Enix. If they said no, then that would be that.

Pretty much, yeah, and it's just... ridiculously irritating to me. Especially with the fact that, if the Square rep is indeed Erdrick (which I am positive it is), then Geno was 100% used as leak bait. It's just disgustingly cruel, man. Literally knowing that people are clamoring to have that character, only to laugh in their faces, give them the middle finger, and use the character as leak bait to rub salt into the wound?

Just

AGHHHHHH

Sorry guys lmao I've been having a bad start of 2019 and it's just leaking out here I think

 

[Jovahexeon Joranvexeon]

Especially with the fact that, if the Square rep is indeed Erdrick (which I am positive it is), then Geno was 100% used as leak bait.

To be fair..... in a business like this, Square doesn't have as much reason to care, considering how it's the leakers themselves spreading the information, leak bait or not. I hate to say it, but you'd have to blame the leakers for getting hurt more than anything if they chose to leak it, or just don't follow leaks to begin with.

It's just disgustingly cruel, man. Literally knowing that people are clamoring to have that character, only to laugh in their faces, give them the middle finger, and use the character as leak bait to rub salt into the wound?

Alright, not to play devil's advocate too much, but I doubt it's an action they're taking against us as consumers. If anything, they're doing all they can to keep their actual secrets on store, and we can't really blame them for it. And for the typical casual not in depth, they likely don't screen see these leaks.

I get being frustrated at them saying no, but I wouldn't paint them as cruel for using leak bait. Not when jobs, stocks and whatnot could be at risk due to leakers.

 

[Ovaltine]

To be fair..... in a business like this, Square doesn't have as much reason to care, considering how it's the leakers themselves spreading the information, leak bait or not. I hate to say it, but you'd have to blame the leakers for getting hurt more than anything if they chose to leak it, or just don't follow leaks to begin with.
Alright, not to play devil's advocate too much, but I doubt it's an action they're taking against us as consumers. If anything, they're doing all they can to keep their actual secrets on store, and we can't really blame them for it. And for the typical casual not in depth, they likely don't screen see these leaks.

I get being frustrated at them saying no, but I wouldn't paint them as cruel for using leak bait. Not when jobs, stocks and whatnot could be at risk due to leakers.

Yeah. Honestly, you're completely right about all of that.

I admit that I'm honestly just being irrational because life stuff is giving me a struggle and I'm using dumb video game frustration to let off steam, though, so hey, self, cut that **** out. Okay? Cool.

But yeah, sorry about all that. That was pretty unbecoming of me.

 

[Datboigeno]

I've got a bit of an argument to support this, regarding Phoenix Wright. Anyone here know Lythero? Despite PW being seen as a bad character, Lythero played him because he wanted to, along with Dante and Viewtiful Joe. Lythero became a nightmare to face for most people. Sure, he had that 'no one plays this guy, how do I beat him?' tech going for him for a little while, but even when people started figuring out how to counter him he was still a monster.

In fact, it lead to other players getting on that level of 'git gud' with PW as well, to where you could find multiple people who were really skilled with PW. Also, not playing top-tier characters immediately makes you an underdog, and who loves an underdog? The crowd, of course. Notice how most people tend to root for the guy who made it so far in the tournament using a character no one even thought could make it that far?

This is the kind of love Ridley and other characters can easily get, and when you encounter someone who beats you with that underused character, you have nothing but respect for them because you KNOW how many hours they put into it to get that good.



While I'm not sure it's a GOOD thing to feel like a special snowflake, I understand that feeling that comes from playing a newer character. The problem is that it's a fake feeling: you feel like you are actually getting good with minimal effort put in when it's actually just that players who are much better than you in general don't have match-up knowledge yet.

This leads into something that I very much dislike, which is people who make content eventually complain about a character 'being bad' just because the newness has worn off and people have learned to counter the new kid on the block. It doesn't mean the character is bad, it just means that you need to put in actual effort now to advance rather than piggyback off of a lack of experience on your opponent's part.

As for characters who aren't played as much but aren't new, this is a similar sensation but without as much negative connotation: If you whoop someone with Dan Hibiki because you play Dan and this guy rarely faces any, it's no longer about the player taking advantage of knowledge that players possibly don't eve have yet, but it's now on your opponent's shoulders to remember his counterplay for your lesser-played character. That is feeling I can respect.

Kudos to playing Megaman btw. I've tried him but I need a balance of projectiles and other attacks and his kit just doesn't appeal to me. I feel like a mostly brain-dead ape every time I pick him up.





Oh my god, someone who I can relate with! WOOO!

My reason for getting hype at most character reveals is a combination of seeing the cool stuff the new character can do and the idea that someone somewhere really wanted that character in the game, so I get hype because someone else got what they wanted. I was hype all through the reveals and as another someone who has never played SMT or Persona, I lost my mind because even I knew this was big.

The snowflake thing was a joke. And yeah I more was expressing the second point which is people not having counter strategies for lesser played characters.

Holy hell, he's a MASSIVE Geno fan, too. Wow. That's... honestly pretty incredible. I love that!

Anyhow, I've conjured up a very heartfelt letter that I've personally sent, with all peace and love and no vitriol, to Nintendo and Square with my feelings for what they've blessed us with and my hopes that Geno will one day return to us, whether it's in Smash or not. I've sourced our darling thread in the letter, as well, for the numbers... kinda speak for themselves. The fan polls, this, the Mii costume, the Smash ballot...

It's not a matter of if Geno gets revived at this point, I feel. It's a matter of when. It may not be in Smash Ultimate, but the outpouring of love and demand for Geno is just going to get harder and harder for them to ignore. It makes me so happy to see so many people loving our star boy. We can't let that love train stop!

Tbh at this point I feel like something has to be happening with Geno in some form sooner rather than later. If they were able to note the popularity of Ridley and K. Rool then there’s no way they wouldn’t take note of the support for Geno. And I feel that notion is supported by things like the NoA tweet and the HQ trivia question recently. I find it really hard to believe that the culmination of all of that acknowledgement is a .png with nice stats.

 

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The snowflake thing was a joke. And yeah I more was expressing the second point which is people not having counter strategies for lesser played characters.



Tbh at this point I feel like something has to be happening with Geno in some form sooner rather than later. If they were able to note the popularity of Ridley and K. Rool then there’s no way they wouldn’t take note of the support for Geno. And I feel that notion is supported by things like the NoA tweet and the HQ trivia question recently. I find it really hard to believe that the culmination of all of that acknowledgement is a .png with nice stats.

100% agree. I doubt it's only a png or a Mii costume. They seem to try to be pushing him and getting him into the know, but for what?

Hopefully this means playable Geno

 

[Ovaltine]

The snowflake thing was a joke. And yeah I more was expressing the second point which is people not having counter strategies for lesser played characters.



Tbh at this point I feel like something has to be happening with Geno in some form sooner rather than later. If they were able to note the popularity of Ridley and K. Rool then there’s no way they wouldn’t take note of the support for Geno. And I feel that notion is supported by things like the NoA tweet and the HQ trivia question recently. I find it really hard to believe that the culmination of all of that acknowledgement is a .png with nice stats.

Honestly, I feel like something might end up happening for Geno, too, but I don't think the NoA/HQ stuff necessarily means anything in terms of what is coming. If anything, NoA might be specifically pushing for Geno. I'm damn positive that they're very aware of his popularity, especially since Geno as DLC is a rumor around NoA. They might just be trying to push that for NoJ and Square to see, the results of which are unknown.

 

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Had to share another remix I found of this song. I cry every time I hear this song, remixed or not, and I know you all do too