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I think it's just partially a symptom of not having anything better to talk about/the only people I've seen around with potential news regarding potential DLC picks. That sort of thing always brings a lot of attention to the source, and when you have ongoing sources like Panda here, attention is only going to get worse. The most pertinent topic for this thread is going to be all of the rumblings about that list of Square characters, and then I think you're allowed to have some more off topic discussions in that regard as you weigh options versus one another.This. The thread is a Geno thread. It's logical that people would bring up other SE characters too, but tbh that was never the point of this thread. I think we've gotten a lot of people who have jumped into the thread because they "Want Geno" but then end up discussing other SE characters more while also putting down Geno's chances or telling people that the thread is an echochamber. Some even jump in and try to talk about a bunch of characters that aren't even Geno. I feel like there's a line between discussing Geno in relation to other SE characters and just discussing all other SE characters with little to no reference to Geno. Especially when several of those characters have their own dedicated threads. As someone who wants Geno and not other SE choices in the slightest and just wants to discuss Geno it is getting pretty annoying.
Gaz himself is definitely up there. As a mere child, he one shot Mario. I wish someone would do a comic of Gaz growing up. When I think about this it kind of makes me sad because a lot of us are like Gaz, just wanting Geno to come back. He presumably got the toy back but it's not the same, he probably wanted new adventures with Geno like the rest of us.Hey, I have an interesting SMRPG related question for you all. How do you think is the most underrated SMRPG character?
That's... Something I never really thought of that way. That's rather sad, especially since when you actually do see Gaz depicted in fan works, its not usually in the most positive light.Gaz himself is definitely up there. As a mere child, he one shot Mario. I wish someone would do a comic of Gaz growing up. When I think about this it kind of makes me sad because a lot of us are like Gaz, just wanting Geno to come back. He presumably got the toy back but it's not the same, he probably wanted new adventures with Geno like the rest of us.
That's... extremely disappointingThat's... Something I never really thought of that way. That's rather sad, especially since when you actually do see Gaz depicted in fan works, its not usually in the most positive light.
I agree with you to a point. There's obviously going to be people who come in the thread because they want some sort of news from people more in the know. And weighing Geno versus other SE characters is legit. My issue is when people come in and dominate the conversation with DQ or Sora or whoever and try to lecture people about why those characters are more important than Geno to the point of exclusively discussing those characters or when we're going through and having a good Geno/SMRPG related conversation and someone just comes into the thread to discuss things that aren't really Geno related. It gets to the point where said conversations would be better suited for a more general thread or a character specific thread that's not Geno's.I think it's just partially a symptom of not having anything better to talk about/the only people I've seen around with potential news regarding potential DLC picks. That sort of thing always brings a lot of attention to the source, and when you have ongoing sources like Panda here, attention is only going to get worse. The most pertinent topic for this thread is going to be all of the rumblings about that list of Square characters, and then I think you're allowed to have some more off topic discussions in that regard as you weigh options versus one another.
I know you probably think I'm one of the offenders with regards to some of this, but I've been here since this cycle since at least E3 and I've made my case pretty clear as to why I think having the Square discussions and potentially "putting down Geno's chances" has some merit in a discussion of said chances and speculation in the moment when new info is presented. There's a divide I think that should exist between, "I support this character" and "I think this character has this chance of getting in with the info I'm seeing and the ever changing landscape of speculation and Smash info." I don't think that's an unreasonable sort of approach to the situation even though I do get how that's sometimes frustrating when you're looking for support in this thread.
There is a certain irony to Geno's biggest in game fan not being as noticed or liked as much as the toy both sides love.That's... extremely disappointing
This. The thread is a Geno thread. It's logical that people would bring up other SE characters too, but tbh that was never the point of this thread. I think we've gotten a lot of people who have jumped into the thread because they "Want Geno" but then end up discussing other SE characters more while also putting down Geno's chances or telling people that the thread is an echochamber. Some even jump in and try to talk about a bunch of characters that aren't even Geno. I feel like there's a line between discussing Geno in relation to other SE characters and just discussing all other SE characters with little to no reference to Geno. Especially when several of those characters have their own dedicated threads. As someone who wants Geno and not other SE choices in the slightest and just wants to discuss Geno it is getting pretty annoying.
Honestly, it's hard to tell what flies in here anymore. I mean, we talked about pie for like, a page and a half, and nobody complained (I enjoyed it very much myself, lol.) Discussion is a wild, untameable thing that just sort of goes wherever it wants--it's really pretty hard to control, as evidenced by the mods' seeming absence during the aforementioned pie fiasco.I think it's just partially a symptom of not having anything better to talk about/the only people I've seen around with potential news regarding potential DLC picks. That sort of thing always brings a lot of attention to the source, and when you have ongoing sources like Panda here, attention is only going to get worse. The most pertinent topic for this thread is going to be all of the rumblings about that list of Square characters, and then I think you're allowed to have some more off topic discussions in that regard as you weigh options versus one another.
I know you probably think I'm one of the offenders with regards to some of this, but I've been here since this cycle since at least E3 and I've made my case pretty clear as to why I think having the Square discussions and potentially "putting down Geno's chances" has some merit in a discussion of said chances and speculation in the moment when new info is presented. There's a divide I think that should exist between, "I support this character" and "I think this character has this chance of getting in with the info I'm seeing and the ever changing landscape of speculation and Smash info." I don't think that's an unreasonable sort of approach to the situation even though I do get how that's sometimes frustrating when you're looking for support in this thread.
Wasn't the implication that Smithy and his gang from a different dimension/universe? I know that Exor came crashing down into Star Road so I feel like they had to have been somewhere other than the Mushroom Kingdom before the invasion.You know, there is one thing that has always bugged me... Where did Smithy come from? I think it's safe to say that the rest of the Smithy Gang was forged by Smithy himself, but where was he made?
There's also the fact that during the final phase of the final battle you can see other Smithy's in the background.You know, there is one thing that has always bugged me... Where did Smithy come from? I think it's safe to say that the rest of the Smithy Gang was forged by Smithy himself, but where was he made?
I do think that final area is there home dimension, but I am still curious behind how Smithy came into being. Getting down to it, Smithy is a machine, and machines have to be made. So who made Smithy?Wasn't the implication that Smithy and his gang from a different dimension/universe? I know that Exor came crashing down into Star Road so I feel like they had to have been somewhere other than the Mushroom Kingdom before the invasion.
There is a lot to work with, though I am not sure if they would be focusing on Smithy and the gang again for a sequel.There's also the fact that during the final phase of the final battle you can see other Smithy's in the background.
There's alot that a SMRPG sequel could work with? What exactly was up with Smithy and his gang? Where did they come from? What is Star Road like? Are there maybe members of Star Road that aren't exactly good? What was Geno's life like before Star Road broke and he joined Mario? etc etc.
Tbh if we ever got an SMRPG sequel I feel like the big bad or seeming big bad that would be advertised would be whoever the ruler of Vanda is or The Dark Mage that sent Culex into Mario's dimension.I do think that final area is there home dimension, but I am still curious behind how Smithy came into being. Getting down to it, Smithy is a machine, and machines have to be made. So who made Smithy?
There is a lot to work with, though I am not sure if they would be focusing on Smithy and the gang again for a sequel.
Not to detract, but I see a lot of Ninten support and uh...I don't understand lmao. Not to bash the character, I love Earthbound to DEATH but I don't see how hed be very much different from Ness or Lucas. I would much prefer to see Paula or Kumatora if we're gonna get another PSI Powerhouse. 1. For representation. 2. Paula's Pray could be a devastating move, either as a smash attack or final smash and would set her apart from her fellow series reps. AAAAAAAND Kumatora has a very interesting design and her tomboyish attitude could affect her playstyle.
Anyway, back to Geno. Going over the SMRPG fan comic, the panel where they see Samus is SO. GOOD. Such an attention to detail, and such a good detail to include and honestly it made me want Geno in Smash even more. ALSO, remember the JC Rodrigo interview how he said, there would be surprises like PPlant? Does that mean surprises that come out of nowhere? That could corroborate Fatmanonice saying theres a possibility there would be little to no shill characters
BY THE WAY YALL LOOK AT THIS VIDEO LMAOOO honestly I could see how implementing Sephiroth could be a balancing nightmare lmaooo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hz22O8YeFvs
https://twitter.com/Loopyyylupe/status/1068263518368075776?s=19is there a link to the comic?
Not likely. The entire Culex boss fight, while awesome, was just one big Final Fantasy joke. The reason why his kind can't live in Mario's world is because its "3D" while Culex and the rest of his world are still flat pixel sprites. Then there is those Materia looking crystals, the whole "another game" bit, the Final Fantasy music, and all the way to his Final Fantasy as heck design, he is from a Final Fantasy game that no one planned to make. Though, I do love the concept of a game where Mario characters are chucked into a diet Final Fantasy world and have to find a way back.Tbh if we ever got an SMRPG sequel I feel like the big bad or seeming big bad that would be advertised would be whoever the ruler of Vanda is or The Dark Mage that sent Culex into Mario's dimension.
Interesting question...that's one that all "robot species" type scenarios need to answer. The fact that it's left open definitely does give us some room for a sequel. Whatever the answer is, maybe Smelter (or Smelters) are involved? All the "life" in the Smithy Gang has to come from them--maybe they're holy symbols?You know, there is one thing that has always bugged me... Where did Smithy come from? I think it's safe to say that the rest of the Smithy Gang was forged by Smithy himself, but where was he made?
I don't get Ninten either, other than the fact that he would complete the trio of Mother protags. (He's also missing a spirit, I think?) Mostly, it seems people got attached to the idea of him as an easy echo, and now want him to be unique, because there aren't going to be DLC echoes in this wave. I don't know how he'd differentiate himself, though...Not to detract, but I see a lot of Ninten support and uh...I don't understand lmao. Not to bash the character, I love Earthbound to DEATH but I don't see how hed be very much different from Ness or Lucas. I would much prefer to see Paula or Kumatora if we're gonna get another PSI Powerhouse. 1. For representation. 2. Paula's Pray could be a devastating move, either as a smash attack or final smash and would set her apart from her fellow series reps. AAAAAAAND Kumatora has a very interesting design and her tomboyish attitude could affect her playstyle.
Anyway, back to Geno. Going over the SMRPG fan comic, the panel where they see Samus is SO. GOOD. Such an attention to detail, and such a good detail to include and honestly it made me want Geno in Smash even more. ALSO, remember the JC Rodrigo interview how he said, there would be surprises like PPlant? Does that mean surprises that come out of nowhere? That could corroborate Fatmanonice saying theres a possibility there would be little to no shill characters
BY THE WAY YALL LOOK AT THIS VIDEO LMAOOO honestly I could see how implementing Sephiroth could be a balancing nightmare lmaooo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hz22O8YeFvs
True, but the Empire of Vanda or however they want to call it could have some sort of plan to convert the 3D Mario world into 2D or something. Idk I just feel like a lot of people liked Culex even though he was a total FF reference joke and having the antagonists all be 2D FF pastiches would be interesting and a fun way of Square to poke fun at classic FF. Even if they aren't the main villains I could totally see them having another secret Culex battle or a battle with the Dark Mage himself/herself.Not likely. The entire Culex boss fight, while awesome, was just one big Final Fantasy joke. The reason why his kind can't live in Mario's world is because its "3D" while Culex and the rest of his world are still flat pixel sprites. Then there is those Materia looking crystals, the whole "another game" bit, the Final Fantasy music, and all the way to his Final Fantasy as heck design, he is from a Final Fantasy game that no one planned to make. Though, I do love the concept of a game where Mario characters are chucked into a diet Final Fantasy world and have to find a way back.
All I have to say is that if the Octopath team ever did work on a SMRPG Remaster or sequel, making 2D sprites in 3D environments is already up there alley.True, but the Empire of Vanda or however they want to call it could have some sort of plan to convert the 3D Mario world into 2D or something. Idk I just feel like a lot of people liked Culex even though he was a total FF reference joke and having the antagonists all be 2D FF pastiches would be interesting and a fun way of Square to poke fun at classic FF. Even if they aren't the main villains I could totally see them having another secret Culex battle or a battle with the Dark Mage himself/herself.
Just like it was hard to stay on topic during the Ridley threadsI agree with the notion that this should be a thread to discuss Geno only, but with Polarpanda leaking to this thread in particular and other users dropping hints it's hard to stay on topic.
Outside of Geno Blast or Geno Whirl?Now I'd like to see Geno have an unique Final Smash but trying to figure something out. Maybe something involving the 7 Stars?
thank u frenhttps://twitter.com/Loopyyylupe/status/1068263518368075776?s=19
here you go my fren
Also, Culex or Culex connections would be cool for a big bad. Or the Heartless LMAO Remember when all the stars were going out in KH1??? Culex is a heartless CONFIRMED! But HEY, that's JUST a Theory A GAME-
His final smash just seems really straight forward. He calls down the 7 Stars, then proceeds to use Geno Flash. Very similar Final Smash to Rosalina's but with more of a Smart Bomb/Yellow Devil Death explosionJust like it was hard to stay on topic during the Ridley threads
...I'm sorry I couldn't pass that one up
Guys, be reminded that the #1 thing about the Geno thread is that the central focus is about Geno. As long as we are discussing Geno in a way that keeps us on topic, we're good. Last we want is for SE to overtake the thread and it to become another "Should I" or "Should I Not" with Geno.
Now I'd like to see Geno have an unique Final Smash but trying to figure something out. Maybe something involving the 7 Stars?
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Someone shouted me out for my name, i forget yours and will probably find you and edit it in, but thank you so much!!! I’m clearly a big fan of Donald Glover as well.
It's speculation.Is there any credibility to those claims of a second DLC pass, or is that mostly speculation? I wouldn't see why Sakurai and his team wouldn't continue DLC. Also, Sakurai said at the beginning of Smash 4 DLC season that he couldn't keep the development team together forever, but this time around he hasn't made a comment like that. Maybe this is just wishful thinking, but this might mean we're going to get a lot of DLC. But at the same time, however, maybe this just means nothing. Either way, I've been feeling confident about Geno lately, I'll definitely be a little taken back if he isn't it.
I envision Geno as a perfect example of a “glass cannon” as a way to balance him, a featherweight that essentially lives and dies on how well you can time your hits. Time them well, and you’ll be an absolute powerhouse. Time them wrong, however, and you could wind up rocketing off the stage at 75%. That kind of character absolutely hasn’t been seen in the game before, and would really complement the current roster.It's speculation.
However , if the first DLC wave sold well , there is no reason for them to stop. It's basically the best way for Nintendo to promote their games , and keep one of their biggest game alive.
If we can have 7 Smash DLC for a Smash game in one year and a half wich needeed twice as much as developpement (3DS/Wii U) I don't see how 10 characters alongside a few echos is out of the question for Ultimate. Especially with the bigger life-span of the Switch.
Except if Sakurai said no... But After all , the guy is ready to work for the next Smash game sooooo...
And yeah , I hope they do a Mewtwo on us and pick Geno as the first DLC character.
Because remember , Mewtwo was picked because he was the most requested character for Sm4sh. (Ridley was a stage hazard , they didn't knew for K Rool , and the others veterans weren't as requested or were impossible to bring back (Ices Climbers/Snake.))
And they are aware of Geno's popularity among Smash fans.
And well , if people don't know him , I don't think they'll say no to a star warrior with an arm gun wich can transform info a canon.
Also he's going to be a small and fast character with projectiles , sound busted , but every competitive player will want to buy him.
As a gamer, I have a quite a sad but gratifying story for me to tell about this...So how many of you all still have your original Super Mario RPG cartridge? Do you have a fun story to go along with it?
Inb4 Baby Pauline for the next Mario KartTbh, I doubt that will happen. Nintendo released a video on Smash (I think) and Fatmanonice described how Nintendo is really hitting the nostalgic angle the game provides, so I am sure they know what will make fans happy, and they will want to make the fans happy. After all, we got Pauline in Mario Tennis aces! And when Nintendo described the DLC as must haves, I don't think they are going to go any bad route, I think they truly want to make the fans happy this time around
See, the issue here is that Paula and Kuma wouldn’t be unique at all. Their moves are all used by Ness and Lucas and all they’d add sadly are more clones/semi clones at best. Ninten and Mother 1’s PSI are unique in that A. Ninten doesn’t use offensive PSI, like none, and B. Mother 1 is filled with PSI moves that are not present in later games. Strangely enough, Lucas and Ness have more in common than Ninten does with either protag, so ironically the character with the least interesting design has the most potential for a moveset when it comes to PSI users.Not to detract, but I see a lot of Ninten support and uh...I don't understand lmao. Not to bash the character, I love Earthbound to DEATH but I don't see how hed be very much different from Ness or Lucas. I would much prefer to see Paula or Kumatora if we're gonna get another PSI Powerhouse. 1. For representation. 2. Paula's Pray could be a devastating move, either as a smash attack or final smash and would set her apart from her fellow series reps. AAAAAAAND Kumatora has a very interesting design and her tomboyish attitude could affect her playstyle.
ALSO, remember the JC Rodrigo interview how he said, there would be surprises like PPlant? Does that mean surprises that come out of nowhere? That could corroborate Fatmanonice saying theres a possibility there would be little to no shill characters
Out of all the 14 million possible forseen outcomes, in which did out boy make it in?It’s gonna feel like a long time till Friday just to play Ultimate , but at least we’re in the endgame now when it comes to waiting for the game’s release.
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