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And I left the damn place when everyone randomly started drooling over Katalina.
The mods don't even notice support threads most of the time, otherwise you'd see double-post warnings all the time.
We were doing perfectly fine until the mod's swooped in. I think they should just leave us be. (although i know how tempting it is to poke the Geno fans)
That's true. Maybe
Cyn
(you're the only guy I know) could figure something out? Bring up the old leak thread and make stricter rules for it maybe?From what I know, the thing with Graizen is that he constantly derailed discussion to bring up Agumon or presented blatantly fake 4chan leaks with Digimon in them to drum up Agumon discussion. It wasn't about Agumon, I'm pretty sure General's talked about him before without going up in flames, and Agumon has a fair amount of support.
Fair enough.
Oh I don't have problem listening to others, the problem comes when it's not the same way from the other side, lol.
They made a really weird incarnation of him in the Switch port of the prequel.
For me personally, I always end up being fine with whoever joins the roster. But it does get to a point where I feel a bit overwhelmed at the amount of swordfighters, especially during Smash 4 base roster/DLC reveals. It's great to represent a character who happens to be a sword-wielder, but I will admit that it does get to a point where it feels over saturated, even though the numbers show that it isn't the case. As someone who has no interest in Fire Emblem, it's a bit annoying seeing so many characters from that series when half of them were created to play like someone else. Roy may not count as an echo, but c'mon he was clearly designed to be a clone of Marth. The only truly unique Fire Emblem characters areComplaining about "Too many anime swordsmen" in a japanese company game with 13 characters by pushing it to the extreme out of 69 in the main game with () 6 playing Exactly the same (
It's barely 1/7 of the roster. And if they bring gameplay veriety, while also being Gaming Icons, Idc if they're anime or western oriented. Just let them in.
and . . And the clones are 
I think we are likely to get just in game models, unless they go with the tie in trailer idea I brought up before...
For me personally, I always end up being fine with whoever joins the roster. But it does get to a point where I feel a bit overwhelmed at the amount of swordfighters, especially during Smash 4 base roster/DLC reveals. It's great to represent a character who happens to be a sword-wielder, but I will admit that it does get to a point where it feels over saturated, even though the numbers show that it isn't the case. As someone who has no interest in Fire Emblem, it's a bit annoying seeing so many characters from that series when half of them were created to play like someone else. Roy may not count as an echo, but c'mon he was clearly designed to be a clone of Marth. The only truly unique Fire Emblem characters are
In fact, I want to look at how many swordfighters are actually unique on their own:
That's 9 originals, 6 clones. But let's also look at how many swordfighters use a counter:
7 use a counter as their down special.
My point is, it seems like swordfighters are just easy to implement and they often copy/paste moves from each other (most notably the counter). This may be the reason people always bring up the "anime swordsman" argument. I know Sakurai said that echoes don't take slots away from other characters, but me personally, I'd rather have the development team's time and energy spent on someone completely unique instead of receiving the same character over and over marketed as someone different. While I don't think swordfighters are themselves a problem, I think the way they are implemented is.
I still find it worth to try and understand why someone hold its own to that point.
Geno is a nice character with a fun potential moveset that Sakurai already recognized. Tough similar to all characters I support, it tends to be my affection of its game that keeps me going.That's true. Maybe
From what I know, the thing with Graizen is that he constantly derailed discussion to bring up Agumon or presented blatantly fake 4chan leaks with Digimon in them to drum up Agumon discussion. It wasn't about Agumon, I'm pretty sure General's talked about him before without going up in flames, and Agumon has a fair amount of support.
This the last post I'll make about this for the sake of getting discussion back on track.
To do so, I'm not necessarily a big fan of Geno, but what makes you guys like him so much? Is it his character? Super Mario RPG as a whole? Moveset potential? Or something else?
Tbh I haven't even played SMRPG yet, but from the little I've seen from it I find myself interested as it seems fun, plus it's a Mario game and I'm a Mario fan/Nintendo fan in general. I'm hoping for an SNES Classic this December, not just for SMRPG tbh but it will most-likely be the first game I play on it.
..... All of the above.That's true. Maybe
From what I know, the thing with Graizen is that he constantly derailed discussion to bring up Agumon or presented blatantly fake 4chan leaks with Digimon in them to drum up Agumon discussion. It wasn't about Agumon, I'm pretty sure General's talked about him before without going up in flames, and Agumon has a fair amount of support.
This the last post I'll make about this for the sake of getting discussion back on track.
To do so, I'm not necessarily a big fan of Geno, but what makes you guys like him so much? Is it his character? Super Mario RPG as a whole? Moveset potential? Or something else?
In my case I'm 100% supporting the character for his fans. I just barely played the game for the first time during early November, and i definitely liked Geno, always had him in my team and all (he is insanely useful, I swear…), but I ended liking the game overall more than just the character. Dunno I guess the game as an all had the real charm for me. I was supporting geno way before playing the game tho, simply because I think his design and the concept behind him is super cool, and being a SE fan, I like the idea of a SE mario character, lol. I guess my case it's a very unusual case as to why I support the character…
The only thing that was off topic was Lloyd, and that was sort of just a derailment of conversation. Almost all discussion here is related to Geno or the square rep in general.
The vast majority of discussion leak type discussion is related to the square rep. Stop threatening people.
I was simply expressing an opinion for clarity's sake, but since I post in the General Thread I'm surely toxic and passive-aggressive compared to the Geno thread, which is highly inclusive yet has been hostile towards me from the get go.
saying you're not passive aggressive while being passive aggressive in the same sentence..... you're really not helping your case, dude. If you want us to move; you've got to actually give us a reason to like, move.
...You really did not help yourself with how you said that.
I'm sorry if you feel attacked, but you're the one who is threatening to call the mod police because of a brief side conversation about another character (like 2 pages of the 450+ in this thread).
I think the main thing is that people are used to the way things are in this thread, and you're suggesting we stop it, and calling in the mods. People are always going to react aggressively when someone threatens something they care about. I know that wasn't your intention, but that's kind of how it came across. For the record, we regularly discuss the square rep with people who think it won't be Geno and mostly don't have any problems. This thread doesn't usually get upset so quickly.
This is so sad, can we hit 50 likes.
Yikes! That was totally not a passive-aggressive response whatsoever. Way to disprove what I said earlier. Have a nice evening :^)
DaybreakHorizon
for a minute. Everyone and their mother is jumping on him. Let's give him some room to breathe. Let him respond first.
You say somthing stupid and hypocritical: people are gonna call you out for it. Simple as that.Let's take a break on bashing
Very simple, people don't want agumon in place of characters they want.
I'm not saying we shouldn't call him out on it. I'm saying 6 people just quoted him and he hasn't responded yet. Let's stop for a minute and see what he has to say before we keep doing it.
I feel like there's a lot of heart to what made SMRPG, The Game's Legacy with the Timed Hits Mechanic, Square and Nintendo's Then Special Relationship and the uniqueness of how the game shaped to be is what attracts me the most. Without SMRPG, M&L Would've never existed and i wish to see a lot of the characters built within The Seven Stars to reappear in other RPG games. Imagine a Mario Kart with Characters ranging from Donkey Kong Country, Warioware and SMRPG in the future, wouldn't that be awesome?
Kirby
TheCJBrine
I just realized that's you. I didn't recognize you with the new avatar. I thought you were a newcomer to the thread for a while there.Same here lmao