Geno (♥♪!?): Return of the Starsend Savior

[Mr. Peepee]

LMAOOOOOOOOOOOO
https://twitter.com/jobsatnintendo/status/1335760698358419456?s=20

 

[Peepo T. Skeleton]

Yeah, Ridley had the benefit of being released with an entire game while having like one or two songs and no stage attached to him. A DLC character generally has a lot more work put into them specifically so a mod with them in it probably is a lot more threatening.

I still think Ridley being in Legacy XP hurts Geno more than it helps but the takedown is still pretty sus.

LMAOOOOOOOOOOOO
https://twitter.com/jobsatnintendo/status/1335760698358419456?s=20

RIP

 

[MattX20]

LMAOOOOOOOOOOOO
https://twitter.com/jobsatnintendo/status/1335760698358419456?s=20

What they need is better PR teams

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

LMAOOOOOOOOOOOO
https://twitter.com/jobsatnintendo/status/1335760698358419456?s=20

But....the social media person did nothing. There is nothing funny about a 100% inncoent person losing their job

 

[Kremling Kommander]

LMAOOOOOOOOOOOO
https://twitter.com/jobsatnintendo/status/1335760698358419456?s=20

Wow, I guess the constant replies and controversy got to them and they just dipped lmao. I don’t blame the person for it considering he/she is not in control of Nintendo’s decisions, but it’s still surprising to see.
Still, I’m going to miss the “Nintendo of Europe” humor that they adapted a few months ago, hopefully the next person will continue that.

 

[Megadoomer]

But....the social media person did nothing. There is nothing funny about a 100% inncoent person losing their job

Maybe they got fed up with having to deal with people spamming basically every post that Nintendo makes? It seems like every tweet that they've made recently has been filled with unrelated spam in the replies about recent controversies. (for example, tweets about Puyo Puyo Tetris 2, Persona 5 Strikers, and Doom Eternal have the replies talking about Super Smash Bros. Melee or emulation)

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

Maybe they got fed up with having to deal with people spamming basically every post that Nintendo makes? Basically every tweet that they've made recently has been filled with unrelated spam in the replies about recent controversies. (for example, tweets about Puyo Puyo Tetris 2 and Doom Eternal have the replies talking about Super Smash Bros. Melee)

And I still feel bad for them.
Id quit too if I was being attacked by rabid fans about **** I wasnt involved with. But man, this reminds me of the time rabid Animal crossing fans ran Aya Kyogoku off twitter too

 

[Rie Sonomura]

Alright I’m here to debunk the idea that they were fired cause nobody was fired:

There was a problem fetching the tweet

 

[Kremling Kommander]

Sure would be nice to get the hit classic Super Mario RPG from the Super Nintendo Entertainment System on the Super Nintendo Entertainment System-Nintendo Switch Online service on the Nintendo Switch family of systems

 

[RetrogamerMax]

For ****ing REAL. I remember being sent that and thinking “haha, cute fake”, then I saw it being posted around again, and I was like “you know, even though this looks faker than fake, i’m actually scared this is real because it seems exactly like what Nintendo would do”

i guess i’m just conditioned to the occasional totally tonedeaf Smash Bros pick. I feel like this would literally be Piranha Plant II. Hats off to the video editor and all, but christ I am so glad this isn’t real. Feels like every time they pick a Mario character in Ultimate, it’s a spiteful one rather than an actual request

One thing I've learned about image leaks over the years is that you don't believe them unless the leaker has video footage of the character in action like with the ESRB leak back in Smash 4:

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

Alright I’m here to debunk the idea that they were fired cause nobody was fired:

There was a problem fetching the tweet

Oh phew, ok good

 

[RetrogamerMax]

nah, you gotta use half an A press

But first let's talk about parallel universes.

 

[Kremling Kommander]

One thing I've learned about image leaks over the years is that you don't believe them unless the leaker has video footage of the character in action like with the ESRB leak back in Smash 4:

I still can’t believe many people were saying the video footage was fake and some said it was a mod of Brawl. Like my guy, how the heck are you going to mod a WII game into a 3DS, overhaul the UI drastically and add a new character?
I still have no idea about Cacomallow, but if it is real then that’s another one to add to leaks you should never truly rule out.

And I still feel bad for them.
Id quit too if I was being attacked by rabid fans about **** I wasnt involved with. But man, this reminds me of the time rabid Animal crossing fans ran Aya Kyogoku off twitter too

I didn’t hear about this, what happened?

 

[QQS]

I wanna live in a world where these 2 merge together:

This one credit to SeanHicksArt . Amazing artist, go check his work on his Twitter.

This one seen here.

After Mega Man and Sonic made it into battle (they were obvious picks, for obvious reasons); I think the biggest Third Party characters that need to be playable are Banjo-Kazooie & Geno. I know also Cloud, Sora, Isaac, Lloyd, etc. But at least IMO Banjo-Geno the top love of Fan Demand-Must.

Based on my Top Most Wanted ever, it’s like:

Mega Man
Geno
Banjo-Kazooie
Skull Kid
Zero from MMX
Knuckles (fine with Tails also)

Out of those, probably Skull, Zero & a Sonic rep are out of the running; Mega Man & Banjo are playable; and Geno is my biggest wish ever after Mega Man. He needs to happen and he will happen.

Other characters I would love to see are Hayabusa which is totally epic, and Crash. After those I don’t really need more, though I’m grateful with Mega, Banjo and completely done with Geno. This game is perfect but it must have Geno before it ends

Im pretty sure this is Geno’s chance to be playable and we will get even more characters to be happy about. I will be paid with Geno; but also I will be enjoying Hayabusa and Crash. Another Zelda rep it’s somehow something we all want, I would love to see that. And probably Tails or Eggman would fit so perfectly.

Anyway, may Geno awakens soon!

 

[Peepo T. Skeleton]

Alright I’m here to debunk the idea that they were fired cause nobody was fired:

Alright, can we please stop spreading what's likely misinformation about this? Click the link.

No, y'all didn't make the NoA Twitter person quit their job.
It's an internship position intended for students to get job experience.

Also, the job was posted November 21st. Chill. https://t.co/5dLVOL6Ovk pic.twitter.com/HHIhoTk1Dt

— Tris Valbuena 🏳️‍🌈 (@ToonTris) December 8, 2020

Pictured: The next intern preparing to face the infinite onslaught of angry Twitter users

 

[RetrogamerMax]

Well, Steve is a big deal, considering how Minecraft is, but I wanna know: will a character with that amount of hype ever happen again? I am sure it will for some cases, but they won't necessarily be Steve in terms of hype. What I am saying is that keeping up the hype for Smash characters that are DLC while spreading them out far apart in terms of reveals won't last forever. I mean, many of us love Smash, and we do have excitement and anticipation for the next character, but that only does so much. Correct me if I am wrong, but spreading reveals for DLC characters for Smash over long periods of time is bound to kill the hype at some point if it has not done so already, will it?

I feel like Sora would break the Internet as much of a way or bigger than Steve if he get's in. Kingdom Hearts isn't the gaming giant Minecraft is but it is very iconic and popular and having Sora in Smash Bros. Would be HUGE because Disney would be involved and Disney being in Smash would probably make bigger headlines than Microsoft being listed on the title screen.

 

[Firox]

Alright I’m here to debunk the idea that they were fired cause nobody was fired:

Alright, can we please stop spreading what's likely misinformation about this? Click the link.

No, y'all didn't make the NoA Twitter person quit their job.
It's an internship position intended for students to get job experience.

Also, the job was posted November 21st. Chill. https://t.co/5dLVOL6Ovk pic.twitter.com/HHIhoTk1Dt

— Tris Valbuena 🏳️‍🌈 (@ToonTris) December 8, 2020

Take THAT fake news!

 

[Vector Victor]

I think the biggest issue with Smash hype being "dead" is that Steve was the first one in the last 12 months to actually make people happy (I know some people aren't, but hang on with my thought please): 2020 started with one of the most divisive picks (to not say negative) and followed almost 5 months after by another first-party when 2019 was all 3rd parties that were exciting in General (Joker, Hero, Banjo and Terry). Steve came almost 4 months after that and hasn't really done favors in the 2nd year of Ultimate's DLC cycle having only 3 characters in the course of an entire year.

The second pass had many things against it.. It took a major hit in hype due to Byleth's very split reaction. Admittedly, the hype decreased a bit after Banjo-Kazooie to Terry, but mostly more due to some people not recognizing Terry and how he was absent in character speculation. However, Terry was still well received and the hype around character 5 was high, also too high to successfully meet as they were originally the final character (if they didn't hint that there were more characters coming after Terry's reveal, the negative reaction against Byleth would have been significantly worse).

Then came the silence from Nintendo where the momentumthey had going falls apart. Then character 5 randomly announced with no fanfare and its the eighth character from a franchise that many were already sick of back at FE character 6. And then the pass comes out the same day with zero hints as to who is the first character. Then 2 months to just get the franchise (and even that was announced in such a blase way as if even Nintendo didn't care) and then 3 months to find out who.

And, of course, the virus.

All this combined killed hype for the product. At least the first pass had Joker revealed, which piqued interest as then the pass could be anyone. But here, a product goes on sale and you finally find out the FIRST of its content almost 6 months later. It was horribly handled. And adding with how instead of announcing and then waiting a month or two for release, they go radio silent for months and randomly announce and immediately release the character, not giving you a chance to absorb the information.

Min Min was praised due to debunking that obnoxiously stupid "spirits deconfirmed" fanrule, not that she was Min Min, but people later warmed up to her. Steve brought hype back, but now its on Nintendo to carry it out, and considering how bafflingly bad their Marketing department has been this year, I doubt they will deliver on hype.

 

[CannonStreak]

I feel like Sora would break the Internet as much of a way or bigger than Steve if he get's in. Kingdom Hearts isn't the gaming giant Minecraft is but it is very iconic and popular and having Sora in Smash Bros. Would be HUGE because Disney would be involved and Disney being in Smash would probably make bigger headlines than Microsoft being listed on the title screen.

I am not sure if I said it right before, but what I actually meant was that Steve hype levels aren't impossible to break and surpass. Still, that is going to be hard to do. There are characters who could do that, but Sakurai getting them in is another story...

 

[Fatmanonice]

Shadow shared this on Star Road and it's yet another reason why I don't expect Smash at TGA. That last line is so true. Power dynamics wise, Nintendo has significantly more leverage and TGA practically has to beg to get Nintendo to allow them to show anything meaningful. Joker was nothing short of a small miracle. It doesn't help that Nintendo has its own brand of presentations so if anything is shown at TGA, it's because they're willing to throw TGA a bone, not because they really need to.

 

[RetrogamerMax]

I am not sure if I said it right before, but what I actually meant was that Steve hype levels aren't impossible to break and surpass. Still, that is going to be hard to do. There are characters who could do that, but Sakurai getting them in is another story...

I mean, Sakurai is the man and has done the impossible before like getting Ridley to work, getting Cloud, the Dragon Quest protagonists, Banjo & Kazooie, and Steve in. Sakurai is like the closest thing to a miracle worker in this industry.

 

[Michael the Spikester]

I don't think there is gonna be a character as big as Steve at this point. I think he's as big as we're gonna get.

 

[CannonStreak]

I mean, Sakurai is the man and has done the impossible before like getting Ridley to work, getting Cloud, the Dragon Quest protagonists, Banjo & Kazooie, and Steve in. Sakurai is like the closest thing to a miracle worker in this industry.

Now all he needs to do is figure out how to get Tekken in Smash.

But still, I wouldn't call these things impossible. I mean, the way of doing something was always there for those things. Sakurai just couldn't find it earlier or it wasn't available to him before, you know what I mean?

 

[RetrogamerMax]

I don't think there is gonna be a character as big as Steve at this point. I think he's as big as we're gonna get.

So would you say Steve was bigger than Sonic? I don't think so. I know you didn't say that but I think some people get the impression that Minecraft's legacy completely overshadows every big iconic gaming character out there even the big names like Mario, Sonic, and Pac-Man.

 

[Michael the Spikester]

So would you say Steve was bigger than Sonic? I don't think so. I know you didn't say that but I think some people get the impression that Minecraft's legacy completely overshadows every big iconic gaming character out there even the big names like Mario", Sonic, and Pac-Man.

I mean in terms of the remaining 4 DLC fighters. I don't think any of them are gonna top Steve especially since I don't think Sora is happening and unfortunately, Geno who I think given the current trend of returning Sm4sh Miis that he'll at most be a premium Mii.

 

[CannonStreak]

I mean in terms of the remaining 4 DLC fighters. I don't think any of them are gonna top Steve.

I can imagine. I don't think even Geno would come close to doing that if he is in.

 

[RetrogamerMax]

Now all he needs to do is figure out how to get Tekken in Smash.

But still, I wouldn't call these things impossible. I mean, the way of doing something was always there for those things. Sakurai just couldn't find it earlier or it wasn't available to him before, you know what I mean?

Yeah, but all those characters I mentioned were characters a majority of the community thought was impossible beforehand.

I mean in terms of the remaining 4 DLC fighters. I don't think any of them are gonna top Steve especially since I don't think Sora is happening and unfortunately, Geno who I think given the current trend of returning Sm4sh Miis that he'll at most be a premium Mii.

I think Sora or Master Chief would be the only characters to potentially top Steve off.

 

[CannonStreak]

Yeah, but all those characters I mentioned were characters a majority of the community thought was impossible beforehand.

What I was trying to say was that nothing is really impossible. The methods were always there, but were not always available. They were wanted, and they were never impossible. Sakurai just had to search for the methods or wait until they were available. I mean, in this case, there was nothing impossible about those characters when the ways of adding them were around, they just weren't found.

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

I didn’t hear about this, what happened?

Long story short. We thought the social media person got fired and quit, turns out that wasnt the caes

 

[YsDisciple]

The latest Nate the Hate podcast. Nate hopes that in this year's TGA, Nintendo reveals the next Smash character.

On the topic of who needs who, I agree that TGA actually benefits more from Nintendo's presence at the event. Heck, even when Reggie walked up with the surprise Joker reveal back in TGA 2018, a similar message could be seen.

 

[MisterMike]

I can imagine. I don't think even Geno would come close to doing that if he is in.

While King K. Rool wasn't a household name when he was revealed, he was still a huge deal. Geno getting in would still be a huge deal, even if he isn't as prolific a name as Steve.

 

[CannonStreak]

While King K. Rool wasn't a household name when he was revealed, he was still a huge deal. Geno getting in would still be a huge deal, even if he isn't as prolific a name as Steve.

Oh yeah, I forgot about that. Thank you for reminding me.

 

[Michael the Spikester]

The latest Nate the Hate podcast. Nate hopes that in this year's TGA, Nintendo reveals the next Smash character.

On the topic of who needs who, I agree that TGA actually benefits more from Nintendo's presence at the event. Heck, even when Reggie walked up with the surprise Joker reveal back in TGA 2018, a similar message could be seen.

He's setting himself up for disappointment if he thinks there will be a Smash reveal at the VGA.

 

[yungmornindrive]

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Shadow shared this on Star Road and it's yet another reason why I don't expect Smash at TGA. That last line is so true. Power dynamics wise, Nintendo has significantly more leverage and TGA practically has to beg to get Nintendo to allow them to show anything meaningful. Joker was nothing short of a small miracle. It doesn't help that Nintendo has its own brand of presentations so if anything is shown at TGA, it's because they're willing to throw TGA a bone, not because they really need to.

To Devil’s Advocate again: two years ago, using TGA to reveal Joker made more sense because the crowd watching TGA would appreciate Joker, and that reveal could drive Switch/Smash sales. In 2019, no one watching TGA that wasn’t already a Nintendo fan was rushing to get the game for Byleth.

A wild 3rd party reveal would make sense if it’s at TGA (Doom Slayer, Crash, Sora, Fortnite, whatever). A Geno, Waluigi, Nintendo character would not.

 

[link2702]

But....the social media person did nothing. There is nothing funny about a 100% inncoent person losing their job

^this

especially considering we're you know...in a WORLD WIDE PANDEMIC AND IT'S HARD AS HELL FOR MOST FOLKS TO FIND A JOB AS IS. And His/her/their type of job isn't exactly one that opens up very frequently, and who knows what type of other experience they have. Chances are even with a great resume it'll be forever before they find another job again.

This isn't funny at all, nor does it look good on the competitive scenes for ANY of nintendo's games, but especially smash.

 

[Kremling Kommander]

Long story short. We thought the social media person got fired and quit, turns out that wasnt the caes

Not that part, the Animal Crossing situation with that person

 

[Xehanort1372019]

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Shadow shared this on Star Road and it's yet another reason why I don't expect Smash at TGA. That last line is so true. Power dynamics wise, Nintendo has significantly more leverage and TGA practically has to beg to get Nintendo to allow them to show anything meaningful. Joker was nothing short of a small miracle. It doesn't help that Nintendo has its own brand of presentations so if anything is shown at TGA, it's because they're willing to throw TGA a bone, not because they really need to.

Yeah...I'm not expecting a Smash or Nintendo news at the show... Also, Fatman...

https://twitter.com/CrocOclock/status/1336364227393622016

 

[CannonStreak]

Yeah...I'm not expecting a Smash or Nintendo news at the show... Also, Fatman...

https://twitter.com/CrocOclock/status/1336364227393622016

What does this mean? Does it have anything to do with past leaks?

 

[Deleted member]

^this

especially considering we're you know...in a WORLD WIDE PANDEMIC AND IT'S HARD AS HELL FOR MOST FOLKS TO FIND A JOB AS IS. And His/her/their type of job isn't exactly one that opens up very frequently, and who knows what type of other experience they have. Chances are even with a great resume it'll be forever before they find another job again.

This isn't funny at all, nor does it look good on the competitive scenes for ANY of nintendo's games, but especially smash.

Chill out boss, we've already cleared up that the position is a temp one that empties out regularly. It sure does explain why out of all of the big video game names on Twitter, Nintendo's feels the most soulless - it's just some high school/college student trying to get a good recommendation on their resume rather than a highly paid position figuring out how best to reach their audience.

To Devil’s Advocate again: two years ago, using TGA to reveal Joker made more sense because the crowd watching TGA would appreciate Joker, and that reveal could drive Switch/Smash sales. In 2019, no one watching TGA that wasn’t already a Nintendo fan was rushing to get the game for Byleth.

A wild 3rd party reveal would make sense if it’s at TGA (Doom Slayer, Crash, Sora, Fortnite, whatever). A Geno, Waluigi, Nintendo character would not.

Agreed. A reason to actively hope against a reveal at TGAs.

 

[Springwood Slasher]

What does this mean? Does it have anything to do with past leaks?

I second this question. Fatman I can’t keep up - were Ninja Gaiden games important insider info that could be helpful to us?