Geno (♥♪!?): Return of the Starsend Savior

[Deleted member]

It's less about being in denial and insulting you and more that your takes are blinded by your negative bias.

You look at all the good things in Geno's favor and somehow come to the conclusion that it's gotta be someone else. It almost feels like you are living in a false reality.

It's fine if you aren't as confident in Geno's chances, but some of the things you say with this mindset are incorrect, and I'm not afraid to call them out.

You know, like saying Neku suddenly has a good chance to get in over Geno, or that Neku is a very popular choice when all the data says he really isn't.

If you can start calling them out without writing my entire posts off as "sarcasm" then maybe we can discuss things. I look at the good things in Geno's favor and analyze them until I have to say that they're just as good for other characters, at which point they, by definition, become meaningless to Geno specifically. Or, maybe I analyze them until I figure out that they're baseless, at which point they stop being evidence and start being supposition or worse.

Four characters in a row now have been absolutely absent from speculation and not the kind of thing that insiders mentioned. Sakurai's enthusiasm for Terry sold me on Terry, how brilliantly fun to play Terry is sold me on Terry, I love Terry, so never let it be said that I have something against him, but no one was talking about Terry, no one was speculating Terry, no one was leaking Terry... Until Nintendo leaked Terry. The soothsayers on Era and Twitter clearly had a mountain of evidence behind their closed doors that Byleth was going to be the next character, and we have Fatman to confirm that they had a spirit board and a stage nailed down and somehow these people just shrugged and said "well can't be Byleth"... And then it was. ARMS is in a situation similar to Terry except Nintendo intentionally let us know, but no one would have considered ARMS before that, and then we have Steve. Steve, who much like Byleth, had a lot going in his favor and it was slept on, intentionally, to push the narrative of Master Chief.

A lot of what we consider evidence is just the words and vague hints of inside inforamation... Why would I trust the word of these insiders? What could they possibly have to say to me after nearly two years of Smash DLC that could give me any confidence that they know the first damned thing about a character who is in the planning stages? Exactly how long am I expected to just trust that this shoddy information of theirs has a shelf life that's still good if we just give it a little more time? That's not how anything works and surely you have to see how that's just lunacy.

There's a few things that I still hold onto. Cacomallow is still on the table, yes, even a year later, due to these awful circumstances. If it's a mod, it is inexplicably well made for the time it was made, and this mystery modder has not come out of the woodwork to dance on our graves. It's unfortunately not hard proof and viewing it as such is incorrect.

The Mario tournament still holds a bit of hope, and we have until the week of December 5... Hell, I'll even give it the following week. There's some things that make me doubt that delay meant anything, but I can't really nail them down as facts.

Past that, I guess the Legacy XP thing is the only item of any interest to me, but it means just as much for Waluigi as it does Geno. Hell, it means just as much for Metal Sonic, if we really want to split hairs.

 

[QQS]

Photo 1 and 2: Matis Rondiat
Photo 3: Lorenzo Aburto
All credits to those artists!

GENO SHOOTS FOR SMASH!

 

[CannonStreak]

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Photo 1 and 2: Matis Rondiat
Photo 3: Lorenzo Aburto
All credits to those artists!

GENO SHOOTS FOR SMASH!

Hey, those are actually cool pictures!

 

[pinshadow]

Couple things

• Animal Crossing update, neaaat. Honestly that's the most I expected this week, something really small, the argument was never "they can't announce ANYTHING right now because of Age of Calamity", it's "they aren't going to announce a major game/direct the week of their Holiday Title."
• If anything the TWEWY countdown makes me think it's even less likely we are getting a direct? Unless I'm just wrong it ends at Midnight on Sunday Night (Mountain Time). I know TWEWY fans are tired of getting blueballed at this point but unless Square is actually insane I really do think it's a new game. It was teased in Final Remix, it's been a rumor for over a year alongside the very real anime adaptation, Nomura teased something for Switch a few months back, hell John Vignocchi, the Head of 3rd Party Portfolio Management at NoA liked the countdown on twitter, so unless Square is literally the pure embodiment of Satan himself (which may or may not be the case) it's TWEWY 2. And you would THINK Nintendo would want a game like TWEWY 2 as part of a direct if they were having one around the same time, you'd think?

 

[LiveStudioAudience]

Because speculation is by its very nature not an exact science, evidence (for lack of a better term) is always going to be weighed differently by people. One poster can look at a set of patterns and elements and conclude its significant while others can determine it as non-indicative. That doesn't necessarily suggest an inherent pessimism or optimism (one need only look at the number of people cynically guessing at a Pokemon Gen 8 rep to see that), simply that they're making different determinations.

My own belief in Geno as a possible fighter is determined more by a sense that a Square Enix character will likely be in the pass and that Nintendo/Sakurai have had a tendency to go for Smash community favorites in recent years than anything else. But I can just as easily understand someone looking at those conclusions and saying they find them to be specious reasoning with no guarantee that both patterns will happen at the same time, and such a response could come from a person who wants Geno in as much as I do.

 

[CannonStreak]

So, about that joke I posted on the last page...

Why did Geno descend from above?

Spoiler: Answer

To join the the Smash Brothers below!

 

[Peepo T. Skeleton]

Oh God there's like two hundred paragraphs on the last page and it's still going, my brain be hurtin'

 

[zriL]

Why can't anyone, including Geno fans, allow Geno fans to just be happy? Is there some unwritten law?

This is probably a pointless post but if I come here trying to rationalize Geno's chances, it's not because I want to make you guys sad. I actually believe this thread is making some people sad by being overly optimistic. Being optimistic isn't always a good thing, it's also often a setup for more disappointement. It's always intriguing that the Geno supporters are the only one to be that much optimistic, yet they are also the ones that lived the biggest disappointement count by being the oldest (or the biggest among the old ones) supporter community for Smash. While every community is being reasonably conservative with their expectations, Geno community is the only one that's different and I don't really understand why.

Whatever Geno's chances are, there is no reason to believe his chances are any higher than most other good candidates, because if that was the case, he would already be in the game. That's how it works, the period where Sonic, Megaman or Pacman where obvious choices is finished, now there are a lot of good candidates and Geno is only one of them. There is really no reason to be optimistic for anyone, because there are so many legitimate candidates and only few slots. Speculating doesn't change anything to this, there is only one thing that's sure, it's that at the end of the pass, there will be dozens of good candidates that won't be playable. And the most scary thing about this is, the more Smash has characters, the more it lacks legitimate characters.

 

[CannonStreak]

This is probably a pointless post but if I come here trying to rationalize Geno's chances, it's not because I want to make you guys sad. I actually believe this thread is making some people sad by being overly optimistic. Being optimistic isn't always a good thing, it's also often a setup for more disappointement. It's always intriguing that the Geno supporters are the only one to be that much optimistic, yet they are also the ones that lived the biggest disappointement count by being the oldest (or the biggest among the old ones) supporter community for Smash. While every community is being reasonably conservative with their expectation, Geno supporters is the only one that's different and I don't really understand why.

Whatever Geno's chances are, there is no reason to believe his chances are any higher than most other good candidates, because if that was the case, he would already be in the game. That's how it works, the period where Sonic, Megaman or Pacman where obvious choices is finished, now there are a lot of good candidates and Geno is only one of them. There is really no reason to be optimistic, because there are so many legitimate candidates and only few slots. Speculating doesn't change anything to this, there is only one thing that's sure, it's that at the end of the pass, there will be dozens of good candidates that won't be playable. And the most scary thing about this is, the more Smash has characters, the more it lacks legitimate characters.

Be careful. I believe I have said something similar, or close to it, and it did not go well; especially on the optimism part. Just want to give a heads up.

 

[Vector Victor]

Hey guys, I started to get hopeful and optimistic for Geno being playable in Smash Ultimate. Please call the cops and have me arrested as I have apparently broken a planetary law or something.

 

[domriver]

One the topic of enemies in Mario games, maybe just one more thing...what about Corkpedite...

And Stumpet?

They both look cool.

You know I don't think this has even been talked about BUT are these two minions of King Smithy? Or are they are hostile dwellers that live in this area and will attack anyone who gets in their way? Smithy's army is more Machine based right? Or High Ranks.
EDIT: come to think of this:
Many enemies from the World of Mario RPG may not even be apart of King Smithy army. The Dragon Boss? Captain Johnny? That HUGE Octopus. Crocodile? Belome?

 

[QQS]

Hey guys, I started to get hopeful and optimistic for Geno being playable in Smash Ultimate. Please call the cops and have me arrested as I have apparently broken a planetary law or something.

Welcome to my world. Have a beer with QQS

 

[CannonStreak]

You know I don't think this has even been talked about BUT are these two minions of King Smithy? Or are they are hostile dwellers that live in this area and will attack anyone who gets in their way? Smithy's army is more Machine based right? Or High Ranks.

I am not sure about any of Smithy's minions being made of wood, but it is possible, still.

 

[LiveStudioAudience]

I would never want to take optimism away from anyone nor would I suggest someone shouldn't have it.

But I also would not draw conclusions about anyone because they don't feel the same way or make assumptions about their intentions either.

 

[CannonStreak]

I would never want to take optimism away from anyone nor would I suggest someone shouldn't have it.

But I also would not draw conclusions about anyone because they don't feel the same way or make assumptions about their intentions either.

Well, I did say I did not want to change anyone. That includes taking optimism away. Being annoyed at it was one thing, but taking something like that away was never my thing.

 

[TooManyToastahs]

People think this thread is overly optimistic for Geno’s chances? The same thread that time and time again has overreacted to new character inclusions becoming a possibility?
There was a time where people were seriously considering throwing in the towel for Geno because Overwatch was getting a Switch port. There was a time when people assumed a Monster Hunter character was gonna steal Geno’s spot as #77 because a new Monster Hunter game was announced. There was a time when people interpreted Pokemon DLC as obvious evidence that a new Pokemon fighter would be the next character.

I love this thread and it’s users, please don’t misunderstand my longwinded rant, but sometimes this place feels like a funeral home. To imply the Geno fans here are overly optimistic is to completely ignore the many times where the people here assumed the worst case scenario.

 

[CannonStreak]

People think this thread is overly optimistic for Geno’s chances? The same thread that time and time again has overreacted to new character inclusions becoming a possibility?
There was a time where people were seriously considering throwing in the towel for Geno because Overwatch was getting a Switch port. There was a time when people assumed a Monster Hunter character was gonna steal Geno’s spot as #77 because a new Monster Hunter game was announced. There was a time when people interpreted Pokemon DLC as obvious evidence that a new Pokemon fighter would be the next character.

I love this thread and it’s users, please don’t misunderstand my longwinded rant, but sometimes this place feels like a funeral home. To imply the Geno fans here are overly optimistic is to completely ignore the many times where the people here assumed the worst case scenario.

I did forget about that when I was upset before.

Heck! I have been on the K. Rool thread in the Smash 4 days and Ultimate days and the Banjo-Kazooie thread in the Ultimate days, and I have seen the same thing happen over and over. It is not just this thread. Why should there be a law that makes this an exception to the rule? What makes us special?

Like K. Rool and Banjo-Kazooie, I have faith that Geno will make it in.

 

[zriL]

Be careful. I believe I have said something similar, or close to it, and it did not go well; especially on the optimism part. Just want to give a heads up.

I know, that's why I said it was pointless. I'm trying to apply the laws of statistics and probability here, but it seems this thread exists in a different plane of existence where no such thing applies.

 

[CannonStreak]

I know, that's why I said it was pointless. I'm trying to apply the laws of statistics and probability here, but it seems this thread exists in a different plane of existence where no such thing applies.

Would statistics and probability apply to the human mind and opinions at all, if even easily?

 

[Fatmanonice]

In this fanbase, the lows are really low but the highs are really high too. That's why when people say "you could wind up disappointed", older fans like me and KCChief do the equivalent of looking directly into an atomic blast and saying "huh, guess I don't have to go to work tomorrow" and putting sunglasses on. As I exclaimed to Sonic smasher the other day, the Geno fanbase has had race horses that have had heart attacks and dropped dead inches from the finish line. Getting BTFO at the last second basically came to define the end of the Brawl and Smash 4 speculation eras for the Geno fanbase.

 

[CannonStreak]

In this fanbase, the lows are really low but the highs are really high too. That's why when people say "you could wind up disappointed", older fans like me and KCChief do the equivalent of looking directly into an atomic blast and saying "huh, guess I don't have to go to work tomorrow" and putting sunglasses on. As I exclaimed to Sonic smasher the other day, the Geno fanbase has had race horses that have had heart attacks and dropped dead inches from the finish line. Getting BTFO at the last second basically came to define the end of the Brawl and Smash 4 speculation eras for the Geno fanbase.

Pretty much. We have been through a lot. I don't think there is a need to remind those here about being responsibile and not be too optimistic of anything, even. We probably have gone through enough to know, and if Geno is not in Ultimate, this will be no different.

 

[MattX20]

In this fanbase, the lows are really low but the highs are really high too. That's why when people say "you could wind up disappointed", older fans like me and KCChief do the equivalent of looking directly into an atomic blast and saying "huh, guess I don't have to go to work tomorrow" and putting sunglasses on. As I exclaimed to Sonic smasher the other day, the Geno fanbase has had race horses that have had heart attacks and dropped dead inches from the finish line. Getting BTFO at the last second basically came to define the end of the Brawl and Smash 4 speculation eras for the Geno fanbase.

And despite all the BTFOs, we just got back on our feet soon after. We can be discouraged from time to time, but we don't give up that easily

 

[CannonStreak]

And despite all the BTFOs, we just got back on our feet soon after. We can be discouraged from time to time, but we don't give up that easily

Let me tell you, nothing is going to shatter us, our beliefs or dreams. We are in control of our thoughts, no outsider is.

 

[zriL]

Would statistics and probability apply to the human mind and opinions at all, if even easily?

I was referring to Geno's chance or any character's chances, like I explained in my previous post.

 

[CannonStreak]

I was referring to Geno's chance or any character's chances, like I explained in my previous post.

Oh, my bad. Still, without the right data, most of which may come from Nintendo or Sakurai, which they won't release anytime soon or ever, I don't think we'll know the exact chances for Geno. But like Parappa said, "You gotta believe!".

 

[Firox]

Thanks for that, man. I already understand that already, and probably understand it more thanks to your post here.

EDIT: And wow, that boss of yours you talked about was such a big jerk.

Seriously. His boss was so terrifying that I have PTSD just from READING about it. I've never had a boss physically harm me, but let me tell you, the psychological torture I've endured with some people was well worth quitting for. I'm not trying to refer to this thread or diminish the thought Fatman was trying to evoke. I just mean that in the world of the working class, I've learned one very important lesson:

If you dread going to work, if you absolutely hate the life you lead because of an absolutely toxic work environment, raise some hell or get out of there, fast. Life's too short to hate your life because a boss or co-worker is a sadistic sociopath.

 

[CannonStreak]

Seriously. His boss was so terrifying that I have PTSD just from READING about it. I've never had a boss physically harm me, but let me tell you, the psychological torture I've endured with some people was well worth quitting for. I'm not trying to refer to this thread or diminish the thought Fatman was trying to evoke. I just mean that in the world of the working class, I've learned one very important lesson:

If you dread going to work, if you absolutely hate the life you lead because of an absolutely toxic work environment, raise some hell or get out of there, fast. Life's too short to hate your life because a boss or co-worker is a sadistic sociopath.

Agreed, Firox. I have been through psychological torture myself. But all it has done has made me stronger. Likewise, any psychological torture from outsiders to us will just make us stronger as well.

 

[zriL]

Let me tell you, nothing is going to shatter us, our beliefs or dreams. We are in control of our thoughts, no outsider is.

You know, debating and trying to convince people is usually a benevolent thing. Because sometimes people are wrong, and they are very happy when someone explain them why. Also, it's not a bad thing to change your mind, you can change your mind and still be in control of your thoughts. Actually, changing your mind is sometimes very brave depending on the context and a very big demonstration of self understanding.

 

[CannonStreak]

You know, debating and trying to convince people is usually a benevolent thing. Because sometimes people are wrong, and they are very happy when someone explain them why. Also, it's not a bad thing to change your mind, you can change your mind and still be in control of your thoughts. Actually, changing your mind is sometimes very brave depending on the context and a very big demonstration of self understanding.

Yeah, but I have had my experiences trying to do that. And I had good intentions. I don't know about you, but if you think you can change anyone here, which I am not sure of, good luck with that. We mostly have control over ourselves, it seems. I don't think we'll be that upset if Geno is not in.

 

[GenoDoge]

Hello, everyone. I know I said I was going to leave the Geno thread. I have something to say, but before that, here is something else I have to say.

Although it was how the positivity was handled by Geno fans and expressed rather than the positivity itself, I have to admit, I was way over my head, and not thinking clearly. Days before the leaving thing, I was increasingly getting upset about things in the Geno thread, but I knew I could not change anyone, not that I wanted to. I was only concerned, and wanted to help, and feeling helpless, I even cried thinking I could not help. But the key word is thinking, not knowing. It seems many people are not prone to getting throwing a fit over if Geno is in or not, and the same people probably would not be upset if others picked on them if Geno was not in. I understand the Geno thread has been through, and I put an emphasis on, a lot, as you all know. Still, again, I did not want to change anything about you guys, as I was only concerned. I may have seemed a bit immature there, but I meant well.

I may not have handled it well enough, and said things I did not mean, but regardless, what I was trying to say was more complex, or at least deeper than what the text showed on the screen. Speaking of text, I may have been a bit agitated back then, but I was mostly calm, and in fact, I was not resorting to yelling or being mean, or even condescending in my posts. Without voice to back it up, text can only show so much. I was just trying to be polite as possible. With my not wanting anyone to change, including QQS, I meant no harm. I just was upset, and may have forgotten some key things about Geno fans, like some things about QQS and our ability to regulate our emotions, and the Geno thread's history and rough times. Some of you may not have handled what I did and said well, but believe me when I say I won't blame or hold anyone responsible for what happened. That was my fault. I understand why some of you may have been upset at me for what I did. Also, I apparently, or objectively had a hard time trying to say what I was trying to say. Maybe it is because of my lack of communication in the real world, which, in turn, may be because I am autistic.

Anyway, I was hoping I could come back to the Geno thread once more. I am willing to come back, hopefully for good. I am a bit uncertain about the future, as I am not sure it will happen again, and I hope it does not happen, for I really do not want to snap again. If I am coming close, I do plan to talking on friends here before I do so. That said, I do apologize if I upset anyone, or if I unintentionally said things that may not have been interpreted the way I hoped it would be by others, which was nothing intentionally bad. I can promise if you got to know me better, I am not only a better person than you may think, who even hates to be condescending and mean, but I believe in everyone being equal, including myself, I do not, and never want to wish that my way of thinking is superior to anyone else, especially here, but others as well. I could not have that way of thinking if I tried. With that, I was also conflicted on the inside, since I went to the Geno thread and the Newcomer thread, and the difference between each thread and points of views on each other, especially from the Newcomer thread, kinda tore me apart mentally.

Still, I am not sure about believing in the thing called Cacomallow, not because people are positive about it, but I am not sure of its validity. However, I am not going to complain about it, for I am not those who think it is real. I would rather respect things I don't agree with rather than complain. That goes for everything else, including things like being excited for small things that may not be hinting at Geno. Regardless though, whether it is that or Cacomallow, that is something we should just not focus on now and treat it as irrelevant in terms of this post.

I already talked to a mod about this, as well as QQS, and told them the story, and in the case of QQS, I honestly told him he was a good dude. The mod understood, and QQS and I have essentially made up. Also, that thing I admit was rather bad about posting my leaving the Geno thread on the Newcomer Discussion back then, I wasn't trying to be harmful to the Geno thread, not intentionally, not to mention with how I was upset, I forgot about the war between the Geno thread and the Newcomer thread, and how they don't get along.

Some of you may still not like me, and I understand. Still, I hope I can be welcomed back to the Geno thread, as I am sorry for what went down a few days ago. I hope this does not happen again. With that, I just want to talk about Geno again and celebrate should he get in, which I still think is not only likely, but very likely.

Don't worry! I think you're an awesome guy and I welcome you back! I think Geno is very likely, and I'm glad to see you still want to discuss him with all of us. Hopefully it won't be too bad of a wait!

 

[CannonStreak]

Don't worry! I think you're an awesome guy and I welcome you back! I think Geno is very likely, and I'm glad to see you still want to discuss him with all of his. Hopefully it won't be too bad of a wait!

Thanks! That said, I do hope at least a Nintendo Direct or a Smash reveal is soon or before the end of the year.

 

[Fatmanonice]

Seriously. His boss was so terrifying that I have PTSD just from READING about it. I've never had a boss physically harm me, but let me tell you, the psychological torture I've endured with some people was well worth quitting for. I'm not trying to refer to this thread or diminish the thought Fatman was trying to evoke. I just mean that in the world of the working class, I've learned one very important lesson:

If you dread going to work, if you absolutely hate the life you lead because of an absolutely toxic work environment, raise some hell or get out of there, fast. Life's too short to hate your life because a boss or co-worker is a sadistic sociopath.

That's the weird thing about that restaurant: most people liked working there and they liked my boss. I liked my boss and my memories of the job are overwhelmingly positive. Sometimes I go back and there's a good number of people who still work there from my high school days. He always recognizes me and gives me a free glass of wine (cheap Lambrusco but, still, it's free) to talk about life and free baklava to take to my mother when I leave. It was complicated because he was only like this to the male workers. It was a very "shape up or **** off" environment.

Fights never lasted long. There were times when staff would literally fight in the parking lot and then get over it by the end of the shift. There would be nights where the restaurant would be slammed and half the staff would be screaming obscenities at each other but those were also the nights my boss would close the restaurant at 11pm but keep the bar open until 2am so the staff could drink and bond. Yet another thing... We always had a family meal before each shift. The chef would make a ton of food and then we'd sit and chat before customers came in because "you can't have a good crew if they're hungry." Again, weird and perhaps a little frightening from an outside perspective but there was no mistake that place was a "crew."

 

[CannonStreak]

That's the weird thing about that restaurant: most people liked working there and they liked my boss. I liked my boss and my memories of the job are overwhelmingly positive. Sometimes I go back and there's a good number of people who still work there from my high school days. He always recognizes me and gives me a free glass of wine (cheap Lambrusco but, still, it's free) to talk about life and free baklava to take to my mother when I leave. It was complicated because he was only like this to the male workers. It was a very "shape up or **** off" environment.

Fights never lasted long. There were times when staff would literally fight in the parking lot and then get over it by the end of the shift. There would be nights where the restaurant would be slammed and half the staff would be screaming obscenities at each other but those were also the nights my boss would close the restaurant at 11pm but keep the bar open until 2am so the staff could drink and bond. Yet another thing... We always had a family meal before each shift. The chef would make a ton of food and then we'd sit and chat before customers came in because "you can't have a good crew if they're hungry." Again, weird and perhaps a little frightening from an outside perspective but there was no mistake that place was a "crew."

Very interesting. A really cool story with some complication. I don't like though that he was just apparently nice to the male workers rather, if I have that down correctly.

 

[zriL]

Yeah, but I have had my experiences trying to do that. And I had good intentions. I don't know about you, but if you think you can change anyone here, which I am not sure of, good luck with that. We mostly have control over ourselves, it seems. I don't think we'll be that upset if Geno is not in.

I'm not actively trying to change people here, I'm only trying to bring different reflection elements that they might lack here, so that they can forge themselves a more accurate opinion. Imagine it like having a better vision and seeing things more clearly, if you have glasses you'll understand. If that changes their mind, then it's good for them because it means they decided their opinion is now better than before. If they don't, it's fine too as long as they don't completely ignore the possibily of being wrong.

Now if you close yourself to everyone that disagree, you will basically never progress as human being, especially when you seem to be proud saying you have nothing to gain from "outsiders". If you are really looking for the truth and not just building a fantasy, you actually need other people, people that don't necessarily agree with you.

 

[CannonStreak]

I'm not actively trying to change people here, I'm only trying to bring different reflection elements that they might lack here, so that they can forge themselves a more accurate opinion. Imagine it like having a better vision and seeing things more clearly, if you have glasses you'll understand. If that changes their mind, then it's good for them because it means they decided their opinion is now better than before. If they don't, it's fine too as long as they don't completely ignore the possibily of being wrong.

Now if you close yourself to everyone that disagree, you will basically never progress as human being, especially when you seem to be proud saying you have nothing to gain from "outsiders". If you are really looking for the truth and not just building a fantasy, you actually need other people, people that don't necessarily agree with you.

Oh I know that those things are important to progress as a human. I am just saying that given what Geno fans have been through, they have developed a lot, and they know what they are basically doing and feeling.

 

[pinshadow]

I guess it is event night, isn't it. Wonder if we'll see an Age of Calamity spirit event. (also wondering how people are going to actually take the game come Friday because I get the feeling the story is going to rile people up a bit if spoilers are any indication)

 

[CannonStreak]

I guess it is event night, isn't it. Wonder if we'll see an Age of Calamity spirit event. (also wondering how people are going to actually take the game come Friday because I get the feeling the story is going to rile people up a bit if spoilers are any indication)

We should get something tonight. I would not be surprised if it is Age of Calamity related.

 

[Fatmanonice]

Very interesting. A really cool story with some complication. I don't like though that he was just apparently nice to the male workers rather, if I have that down correctly.

No, I meant he was only "mean" to the male workers. Women were expected to be treated exceptionally and any signs of mistreatment were very easy grounds for getting fired. Any sign of sexual harassment and you were all but escorted from the restaurant. Women staff always ate first and we were literally forced to walk the female staff to their cars after the dinner shift. He never even rose his voice at the women staff but it wasn't unusual for himself to outright go upside a waiter's head if he was pissed off enough.

 

[Lyncario]

I guess it is event night, isn't it. Wonder if we'll see an Age of Calamity spirit event. (also wondering how people are going to actually take the game come Friday because I get the feeling the story is going to rile people up a bit if spoilers are any indication)

Saying it now, Ocarina Of Time did it first.

 

[CannonStreak]

No, I meant he was only "mean" to the male workers. Women were expected to be treated exceptionally and any signs of mistreatment were very easy grounds for getting fired. Any sign of sexual harassment and you were all but escorted from the restaurant. Women staff always ate first and we were literally forced to walk the female staff to their cars after the dinner shift. He never even rose his voice at the women staff but it wasn't unusual for himself to outright go upside a waiter's head if he was pissed off enough.

I figured I was wrong there. I was probably going to edit and ask about him being mean rather than nice. Still, that was one jerk of a boss.