Geno (♥♪!?): Return of the Starsend Savior

[ForsakenM]

So I have a number of things I want to cover in a single post, but I want to try and keep them short.

1. Here is a picture of me going shopping with my sister in my badass Exor/Bowser's Keep shirt. Turns out I'm a lot less ugly with a mask!
   
   
   
   
   
   
2. Some random girl asking for donations for a group that helps people drop drugs and get closer to God to get their lives on track recognized that it was Bowser's Keep on my shirt, though she didn't know anything about SMRPG. Just found it fascinating that my first time venturing outside with this shirt got someone who recognized something from it. Pretty cool, all things considered.
   
   
3. If you guys haven't noticed already, I'm planning on making my YT channel heavily dedicated to Geno Memes and Geno Propaganda. I'll still do other content but I'm sure you guys mostly only care about Smash and Geno stuff and I usually bring my Smash stuff here anyway. This includes memes of Geno that I haven't made, so if you have any Geno memes you think are hilarious and want to have a channel that is essentially a compendium of said Geno memes up until his reveal, check out my channel and also hit me up with those dank Geno memes.
   
   
4. Time to get a bit more serious for a second. @Serenade01 I have to say that post you made in response to what I said about Steve is one of the biggest examples of ACTUAL gatekeeping in the Smash community that I've ever seen. If you are implying that Steve doesn't count as a fan pick just because he's not one of a handful of characters that have been consistently requested since Melee or Brawl, that is bias to the Nth Degree and is a slap in the face to Steve fans. Once again, coming from someone who thinks that those long-time requests should have some priority and who has never gotten into Minecraft, There are a lot of characters that people have been asking for that are fan picks even if they aren't like Geno or Banjo who have been begged for for decades. You don't have the right to decide what is or isn't a fan pick based off of your personal bias. It's based off factual evidence on who is being heavily talked about and looking at results from the most reliable fan polls, both of which point to Steve being a fan pick as people REALLY wanted him.
   
   
5. Back to more positive things, I've decided that I will open up my SMRPG and Smash Ultimate Quiz to you guys even though it doesn't have as many questions as I would like, mainly because I was aiming for multiple hundreds of questions before really going in with this which is kinda ridiculous. If you guys are interested, the app is called Quiz Up, and you can either play it on your mobile device or on an emulator for mobile games on your PC. I would be honored if you guys would check it out and give it a run and even give me feedback on what kinds of questions you would like to see.
   
   
6. Have there been any recent fan polls that have any credibility? I've been thinking of looking over the results of many of them to see who seems to be on people's minds consistently.
   
   
7. Never forget: Geno is inevitable!

 

[MonkeyDLenny]

The main reasons I keep ruling the VGAs out are because:

1.Nintendo doesn't really do news dumps at the VGAs and when they do announce stuff, it's typically for games already announced.

2. A couple of people in my circle have all told me the same thing and that's to keep expectations in check for the VGAs, at least when it comes to Nintendo. Can't go into full details but apparently there was an attempt to have a 2020 VGA Smash reveal but Nintendo wasn't feeling it and more or less told people "they had their own plans" for the rest of Season 2. This is another reason why I've been strongly entertaining a November/December Smash reveal because the multiple anecdotes on this topic all basically said the same thing: Nintendo wasn't going to have a big presence at the VGAs because they're wanting to reveal whatever they're hiding in their cargo shorts themselves on their own time.

A Game Awards reveal only worked that one time because it coincided with the launch of Smash, and they spent the entire night reminding people of the midnight launch right before delivering the big bombshell of Joker.

We got a little too overconfident last year to think we'd get a reveal, so I'm glad it's seemingly off the table entirely that one will happen this time either. Also, I REALLY don't feel like watching the awards this year, last year was a bloated mess of commercials.

 

[Deleted member]

I guess for me I keep thinking back to last year when there was rampant speculation about the Game Awards and a sense that given it was close to three months since Terry's reveal in September (and his release in November) that TGA video followed by a potential release in the next month seemed logical.

And of course we didn't get that and ended up with the infamous Byleth reveal on some arbitrary date in early January.

Given that the this time its almost an odd repeat of Terry's timeline (with the news and release in October as opposed to Sept/Nov) that history could very likely repeat. A solid 90 or so days pass since the Steve reveal and once again early in the year on some arbitrary date, we do in fact get another mystery Smash video for fighter 8.

At this point, this is a very likely scenario but the talking heads of this community would rather shut out that possibility to continue pushing some ill-founded idea that Smash news can happen in November based on patterns or maintenance or something. I don't have anything against it, but when the cards are stacked so blatantly in opposition to the idea, a little backing away would be appreciated, not to mention that, as a wise man once said, people are beginning to take this "oddly personally" to the point that bad news, even potential bad news, is disregarded and the messengers of such heresy ostracized. But I digress.

The Mario Tournament is currently the only solid thing that we have going for the idea of, at the very least, a character announcement happening in the near future unless I'm forgetting something glaring or otherwise important. If that tournament comes and goes with no news, I would stop expecting a character reveal until 2021 and would also stop expecting a Mario character. "Mario's 35th anniversary runs until March 31", someone is bound to say, in which case, certainly. I can see this community being blindsided by Fighter 8 being a virtual nobody in terms of speculation sometime in January and then riding it all the way to the buzzer on March 31 for nothing to happen.

So I obviously don't want to assume that TWEWY announcement by SE is a sure-fire flag for one of their reps getting into Smash, but real talk, what do you think the chances are of that? Does TWEWY have any presence on Nintendo consoles? I'm not super familiar with that franchise so I don't know if Nintendo would likely ever consider it.

This is a reason I think that people should consider and maybe even be prepared for a surprise Neku Sakuraba inclusion in Smash, but the priests disregard it and the prophets haven't divined it in the pig entrails so my ramblings are worthless. The World Ends With You was a niche DS game that gained a lot of traction, eventually being compared to Earthbound levels of cult classic. Neku had a very outspoken Smash 4 campaign going for him and was even sometimes the kind of fan pick you'd see crop up in an Ultimate roster or two. It was ported to mobile devices and maybe even PC, but much like Bravely Default, it got its start on a Nintendo console and the pick-up in recent months is cause for concern. There's a lot of evidence to suggest a sequel and it (iirc) is even getting an anime series. The game had a unique combat system that managed to take advantage of the touch screen/button combo offered by the DS in an elegant fashion and the abilities granted by swapping out pins would make Neku a unique and probably fun to play fighter in Smash. In fact, since so many people think we could get another dual fighter akin to the Ice Climbers, Neku + a party member would be the kind of over the top complicated that I've predicted Fighter Pass 2 characters are built around, but maybe too overwhelming for Sakurai to consider a possibility. Neku by himself is more than enough, though.

People like to write off the potential Bravely Default character, and in terms of how such a character would be nothing more than yet another forgettable JRPG protagonist in a game rife with swordfighters as is, Neku really stands out as a unique representation of the world of JRPGs, and comes from a generation of video games that is currently under-represented in Smash. All I'm asking for here is some acknowledgement that the evidence is stacked high for a different Square rep than we imagine, and the evidence for a Mario rep, even more specifically Geno is beginning to melt away and the attempts to preserve the evidence would be best called "grasping".

Oh, but I'm sorry. Some insider ****wit didn't hint at it in a cryptic Twitter post so it's an absolute impossibility.

 

[Kremling Kommander]

Ehhhhh, Nintendo can be unpredictable, this year showcasing that especially, so I don’t think we write TGA entirely. If Byleth was intended to be revealed last year at TGA, then it’s possible.

I'm pretty sure TWEWY is a DS game and it got rereleased on the Switch.

Not the rerelease, there’s a TWEWY countdown website now for next Tuesday and many people believe it is either the anime or a potential sequel.

 

[StarLight42]

I mean, TWEWY's home is pretty much nintendo. The game was on ds and later it was ported to mobile devices and the switch a while ago, this announcement is likely going to be a sequel and its definitely going to be on the switch but i guess it could also be on the ps4





Personally I think that just because that Tansut guy said it wasnt for smash doesn't mean neku doesnt have a chance.

Ehhhh, while I think that’s a fair point, I wouldn’t say it affects nothing. Why would Tansut bother to say that if he knew about TWEWY2 AND Smash? You could argue “well, maybe he just doesnt know any future square reps”, and to counter that i’d just say it’s interesting how he’s been completely ignoring Geno and SMRPG related questions for around half a year now but the instant someone asks him about Smash in coherence with TWEWY2, he denies it, on the Smash ERA thread too.

I have a resetera account, and i’ve asked Tansut questions about smash last year. He always seemed very open and transparent and would let people know when he didn’t know anything. So why the sudden silence about SMRPG?

Maybe Fatmanonice can elaborate more on Tansut’s strange behavior in regard to Mario RPG recently

 

[Rie Sonomura]

Ehhhhh, Nintendo can be unpredictable, this year showcasing that especially, so I don’t think we write TGA entirely. If Byleth was intended to be revealed last year at TGA, then it’s possible.

Not the rerelease, there’s a countdown website now for next Tuesday and many people believe it is either the anime or a potential sequel.

We already had info on the anime come out a few months ago so it is most likely a sequel, or some other game related iteration

 

[Heoj]

At this point, this is a very likely scenario but the talking heads of this community would rather shut out that possibility to continue pushing some ill-founded idea that Smash news can happen in November based on patterns or maintenance or something. I don't have anything against it, but when the cards are stacked so blatantly in opposition to the idea, a little backing away would be appreciated, not to mention that, as a wise man once said, people are beginning to take this "oddly personally" to the point that bad news, even potential bad news, is disregarded and the messengers of such heresy ostracized. But I digress.

The Mario Tournament is currently the only solid thing that we have going for the idea of, at the very least, a character announcement happening in the near future unless I'm forgetting something glaring or otherwise important. If that tournament comes and goes with no news, I would stop expecting a character reveal until 2021 and would also stop expecting a Mario character. "Mario's 35th anniversary runs until March 31", someone is bound to say, in which case, certainly. I can see this community being blindsided by Fighter 8 being a virtual nobody in terms of speculation sometime in January and then riding it all the way to the buzzer on March 31 for nothing to happen.


This is a reason I think that people should consider and maybe even be prepared for a surprise Neku Sakuraba inclusion in Smash, but the priests disregard it and the prophets haven't divined it in the pig entrails so my ramblings are worthless. The World Ends With You was a niche DS game that gained a lot of traction, eventually being compared to Earthbound levels of cult classic. Neku had a very outspoken Smash 4 campaign going for him and was even sometimes the kind of fan pick you'd see crop up in an Ultimate roster or two. It was ported to mobile devices and maybe even PC, but much like Bravely Default, it got its start on a Nintendo console and the pick-up in recent months is cause for concern. There's a lot of evidence to suggest a sequel and it (iirc) is even getting an anime series. The game had a unique combat system that managed to take advantage of the touch screen/button combo offered by the DS in an elegant fashion and the abilities granted by swapping out pins would make Neku a unique and probably fun to play fighter in Smash. In fact, since so many people think we could get another dual fighter akin to the Ice Climbers, Neku + a party member would be the kind of over the top complicated that I've predicted Fighter Pass 2 characters are built around, but maybe too overwhelming for Sakurai to consider a possibility. Neku by himself is more than enough, though.

People like to write off the potential Bravely Default character, and in terms of how such a character would be nothing more than yet another forgettable JRPG protagonist in a game rife with swordfighters as is, Neku really stands out as a unique representation of the world of JRPGs, and comes from a generation of video games that is currently under-represented in Smash. All I'm asking for here is some acknowledgement that the evidence is stacked high for a different Square rep than we imagine, and the evidence for a Mario rep, even more specifically Geno is beginning to melt away and the attempts to preserve the evidence would be best called "grasping".

Oh, but I'm sorry. Some insider ****wit didn't hint at it in a cryptic Twitter post so it's an absolute impossibility.

I mean yeh, Nekus chances are definitely looking pretty good as of late. Square is definitely interested in promoting the series and i could definitely see them wanting to get some twewy in smash. As of now my gut still thinks twewy is more likely going to get a spirit event and maybe a mii costume but a playable neku could definitely happen.
For me its a pretty unfortunate situation, as both Geno and Neku are some of my most wanted characters and yet I'm of the belief that square isn't gonna double dip in the same pass so its either one or the other(or neither one make it in)

 

[Fatmanonice]

So I obviously don't want to assume that TWEWY announcement by SE is a sure-fire flag for one of their reps getting into Smash, but real talk, what do you think the chances are of that? Does TWEWY have any presence on Nintendo consoles? I'm not super familiar with that franchise so I don't know if Nintendo would likely ever consider it.

A couple of people have talked on this topic but there's a 99% it has absolutely nothing to do with Smash:

-What Star said.

-Back in September, Imran Khan hard dunked on the idea of "promotional third party characters" and even said Hero was likely the only exception but, in his own words, "... it's Dragon Quest", a huge legacy franchise that had enough to warrant getting into Smash even without a new game to hork.

-I want to say Stealth brought it up but, given Nomura very openly teased this announcement back in September, if it had anything to do with Smash Nintendo would have been up the man's ass like an endoscope. Hell, Introspective got threats from Nintendo because he merely joked on Twitter that he knew Steve was 7. There's no way they would have let a hint that blatant fly.

-TWEWY is technically a dead franchise which is why fans have been following this stuff with wide eyes for ages. The last honest to god, not a remaster or mobile game was 2007. Being revived and immediately getting in Smash would be a tall order especially when you consider...

-Demand for Neku has never really been there and I would be genuinely surprised if he cracked top 5 most wanted Square Enix characters. On that note...

-He wasn't in the Seven Squares leak which allegedly was a comprehensive list of the characters that Square itself was most interested in having in a playable form in Smash. 3 of the 7 are now in the game thanks to Hero leaving Crono, Sephiroth, Sora, and, of course, Geno who very, very openly have more demand and extensive histories of having demand.

 

[Kremling Kommander]

Hell, Introspective got threats from Nintendo because he merely joked on Twitter that he knew Steve was 7. There's no way they would have let a hint that blatant fly.

Nani?! I need a link, when did this happen?

 

[Firox]

I wouldn’t worry at all about Neku coming to Smash

Tansut, the guy to originally break the news that TWEWY2 was coming, went out of his way to say “not Smash” when someone asked him if it was Smash related.

I find it kind of hilarious that every time a video game company announces something new with their IPs, they have to preface with "not Smash". How awesome is it when your cross-over game is so big that everyone has the question in the back of their mind?

 

[LiveStudioAudience]

The most I'm willing to go out on a limb for is a decent certainty that Square Enix will get another character in the Fighter's Pass. Between Cloud in the Smash 4 wave, Hero in Fighter's Pass 1, and the various new spirits, I think the relationship is well established. Not to mention the sheer untapped well of various franchises to pull from. Now which SE character? Well I think about four possibilities feel plausible:

(I'm going to make an unproven assumption that Sora is no go for various reasons. I could be dead wrong, but that's the sense I have.)

Neku - Fairly recent character with a memorable design, presence on Nintendo consoles, and coming from a somewhat unrepresented genre.
FF Character - Wide range of options here (with my fingers crossed for Terra) but with so many titles beyond VII, its a matter of Nintendo/Sakuai preference.
Lara Croft - Legacy and fame on her side, albeit with a meh history on Nintendo and less interest by Japanese audiences.
Geno - The big Smash community favorite that would be a great rep for various Mario RPGs would fit getting the big fan request character each time.

As for the others Crono is liked but lacks broader popularity, 2B's franchise has no history on Nintendo & her a tricky design, and Bravely Default lacks the singular character that stands out with the general public.

 

[Deleted member]

I mean yeh, Nekus chances are definitely looking pretty good as of late. Square is definitely interested in promoting the series and i could definitely see them wanting to get some twewy in smash. As of now my gut still thinks twewy is more likely going to get a spirit event and maybe a mii costume but a playable neku could definitely happen.
For me its a pretty unfortunate situation, as both Geno and Neku are some of my most wanted characters and yet I'm of the belief that square isn't gonna double dip in the same pass so its either one or the other(or neither one make it in)

At least like I pointed out, Neku would be a very unique character and he would please a pretty chill group of people. I'm very aware that [new game] != Smash, but it feels like a lot of users here just close their eyes and pretend that it's always going to be that way because 141 thousand posts in a thread on Smashboards.com has swayed the hearts of the suits at Nintendo and Square, and they'll happily throw the opportunity to promote their relevant franchises and struggling niche titles aside to give us a 24 year old Mario RPG side character. We can never lose sight of the fact that we're basically asking Nintendo to add Koops or ****ing Goombario to Smash, except in this situation a third party owns Ms. Mowz and they'll have to pay to get her back.

 

[Mr. Peepee]

Like I've said before, I can see Lara Croft, 2B, and other Square representation through spirit events and Mii Costumes (Maybe with Geno?)

 

[Heoj]

A couple of people have talked on this topic but there's a 99% it has absolutely nothing to do with Smash:

-What Star said.

-Back in September, Imran Khan hard dunked on the idea of "promotional third party characters" and even said Hero was likely the only exception but, in his own words, "... it's Dragon Quest", a huge legacy franchise that had enough to warrant getting into Smash even without a new game to hork.

-I want to say Stealth brought it up but, given Nomura very openly teased this announcement back in September, if it had anything to do with Smash Nintendo would have been up the man's ass like an endoscope. Hell, Introspective got threats from Nintendo because he merely joked on Twitter that he knew Steve was 7. There's no way they would have let a hint that blatant fly.

-TWEWY is technically a dead franchise which is why fans have been following this stuff with wide eyes for ages. The last honest to god, not a remaster or mobile game was 2007. Being revived and immediately getting in Smash would be a tall order especially when you consider...

-Demand for Neku has never really been there and I would be genuinely surprised if he cracked top 5 most wanted Square Enix characters. On that note...

-He wasn't in the Seven Squares leak which allegedly was a comprehensive list of the characters that Square itself was most interested in having in a playable form in Smash. 3 of the 7 are now in the game thanks to Hero leaving Crono, Sephiroth, Sora, and, of course, Geno who very, very openly have more demand and extensive histories of having demand.

Currently i do think your point of the 7 squares thing is probably a little damaging to neku but ur point on nomura's hinting i feel isnt that strong. I mean if he was teasing twewy2 it technically doesnt have anything to do with smash at all so nintendo probably wouldnt care.
I also feel like your slightly underestimating nekus popularity, i mean yeh historically Neku definitely isnt super popular in terms of requests but his support is still there.
Imran Khan's thing I dont really know anything about.

 

[StarLight42]

Nani?! I need a link, when did this happen?

There was a problem fetching the tweet

 

[MattX20]

I've been confident that one of the remaining 4 has to be a Square rep because of the missing costumes. All the other 3rd party companies that had Mii Costumes in Smash 4 had at bare minimum 2 costumes return, and that's been proven true with the recent inclusion of 2 of the 3 Bandai Namco Mii Costumes. It's basically impossible to dismiss as just baseless speculation or a coincidence at this point

 

[Mr. Peepee]

What's the Seven Squares Leak? Just seems like a baseless leak with a list of potential Square characters for Smash.

Currently i do think your point of the 7 squares thing is probably a little damaging to neku

 

[Firox]

Here is a picture of me going shopping with my sister in my badass Exor/Bowser's Keep shirt. Turns out I'm a lot less ugly with a mask!

Where did you get that shirt! Me want! We must spread the gospel of Geno to the world!

 

[Deleted member]

There was a problem fetching the tweet

For ****'s sake are these people out of their minds? How obvious could they get... AND WE SLEPT ON THIS.

 

[Rie Sonomura]

Wouldn’t the Seven Squares leak hypothetically only apply to Pass 1? We’re in Pass 2, so...

 

[Kremling Kommander]

There was a problem fetching the tweet

So if that was the case...

Can I scare Nintendo if I make daily Geno tweets and act like an insider too?

I am now an insider Nintendo, FEAR ME NINTENDO. YOUR TIME HAS COME

 

[Heoj]

Wouldn’t the Seven Squares leak hypothetically only apply to Pass 1? We’re in Pass 2, so...

Oh yeh, I forgot about that...

 

[StarLight42]

So if that was the case...

Can I scare Nintendo if I make daily Geno tweets and act like an insider?

Sure, one problem though, you just gotta build up a decent Smash Youtube channel and make clickbait videos on the daily

 

[Deleted member]

Wouldn’t the Seven Squares leak hypothetically only apply to Pass 1? We’re in Pass 2, so...

I've brought up how it probably isn't relevant anymore, considering that friggin 3 of 7 were Dragon Quest (Erdrick, Luminary and Slime), but it still gets tossed around like it's the be all, end all of Square's Smash aspirations. But, you know, of the remaining four, only Geno stands a chance.

Where's that sarcasm tag button...

 

[Trevenant]

What's the Seven Squares Leak? Just seems like a baseless leak with a list of potential Square characters for Smash.

Dunno what the consensus is but the fact that it was a pretty comprehensive idea of false names Square was throwing out and had a lot of the characters whom Square would seem to have drawn to, at least personally I think it does. It was pretty much devised by Square themselves and not Nintendo or anything. Just to elaborate, I think it more so means those characters are likely priority from whatever negotiations are going on (and no I don't think we are getting 3 additional Square characters in top of the one we probably are getting and technically 3 of the Dragon Quest ones).

 

[MattX20]

Wouldn’t the Seven Squares leak hypothetically only apply to Pass 1? We’re in Pass 2, so...

If Steve could take 5 whole years regarding negotiations to get him into to the game itself, I'm not sure we should toss out that Seven Squares thing for at least a little while longer

 

[Firox]

So if that was the case...

Can I scare Nintendo if I make daily Geno tweets and act like an insider too?

I am now an insider Nintendo, FEAR ME NINTENDO. YOUR TIME HAS COME

DO IT. We have to bait them out. Make them think we already know and when they send the ninjas we'll know for sure.

 

[Deleted member]

What's the Seven Squares Leak? Just seems like a baseless leak with a list of potential Square characters for Smash.

The Lore™ suggests that people actually lost jobs over the Seven Squares list so in some way, it had to be a genuine article of relevance to Square's plans for Smash Ultimate.

DO IT. We have to bait them out. Make them think we already know and when they send the ninjas we'll know for sure.

Conversely, let us never forget the night of July 19, 2020 in which Andre, Imran and Grubb all started Genoposting on the eve of what was suspected to be "the big one", and yet... But surely, those men of good upbringing and high regard would never just needlessly kick the Geno fanbase.

I will admit, it's strange that in the aftermath of that event, we start to hear that Nintendo began cracking down hard on the insider posse and GameXplain seems to be dissolving. Purely coincidence in my book, but an interesting coincidence nonetheless.

 

[Firox]

Conversely, let us never forget the night of July 19, 2020 in which Andre, Imran and Grubb all started Genoposting on the eve of what was suspected to be "the big one", and yet... But surely, those men of good upbringing and high regard would never just needlessly kick the Geno fanbase.

I will admit, it's strange that in the aftermath of that event, we start to hear that Nintendo began cracking down hard on the insider posse and GameXplain seems to be dissolving. Purely coincidence in my book, but an interesting coincidence nonetheless.

Forgive my short memory, what exactly happened July 19, 2020?

(I'm having flashbacks of Baron Zemo in Captain America: Civil War when he's interrogating the Winter Soldier): "Mission report, July 19....2020"

 

[Fatmanonice]

Yeah, Introspective's Steve ****posting was mistaken by Nintendo as an honest to God leak so was told to stop. Ironically, I was literally just messaged a minute ago by someone to not publicly talk about the specifics but, if you've been paying attention, Steve is one of 6 characters that people have gotten in legal trouble for talking about and leave it at that.

Add in: why was this all bolded?

 

[Mr. Peepee]

Cause its important if the text was blue then

Add in: why was this all bolded?

 

[MattX20]

Yeah, Introspective's Steve ****posting was mistaken by Nintendo as an honest to God leak so was told to stop. Ironically, I was literally just messaged a minute ago by someone to not publicly talk about the specifics but, if you've been paying attention, Steve is one of 6 characters that people have gotten in legal trouble for talking about and leave it at that.

Add in: why was this all bolded?

Geno was also one of the 6 I'm guessing?

 

[Deleted member]

Forgive my short memory, what exactly happened July 19, 2020?

Hoo boy.

I wish I could get the screenshots but finding them would be an endeavor. Essentially, Jeff Grubb (famous for retweeting Mario RPG bot while being a video game journalist who wrote up a whole ass article on "why the hell is SMRPG not on NSO") tweeted about waiting for Smash with a screencap of the Geno doll in its initial hiding place behind the front counter. This actually followed a few days of Mario RPG posting from him, which he insisted was because he was playing through the game so it was fresh on his mind.

Imran replied to the post saying that Geno in Smash would be a dream, and Andre joined in on the action by replying to the post saying Super Mario RPG on Switch would equally qualify as such a nocturnal hallucination.

July 20, 12:00 AM Eastern Daylight Time, for reference, is when the first Partner Showcase aired. Kelios hinted at this happening and went as far as to say that it would be at midnight Eastern, and unbelievable as that was, a lot of the big boy inside crowd decided to jump on board. The difference here is that most everyone suspected that it was going to be Nintendo's E3 offering, aka, "the big one".

Like Fred Sanford, we still await the big one.

Geno was also one of the 6 I'm guessing?

I mean, if you want to get technical, there's a whole list of 7 Square characters which Geno was a part of that got someone into legal trouble.

EDIT: but I'll play it straight and say that the ones I can think of off the top of my head are Steve (if we assume this is legal trouble for Intro), Waluigi (the Para leak, I guess Legacy XP?), Geno(?) (Legacy XP maybe?) and, if Brew is to be believed (I don't think he should be), Ryu.

 

[Deleted member]

I believe there was a certain character Drew Elvis and IamStinky talked about that there was legal implications.

 

[Mr. Peepee]

This must have been what the maintenance was for
https://twitter.com/NinEverything/status/1328775366509428736?s=20

 

[MattX20]

This must have been what the maintenance was for
https://twitter.com/NinEverything/status/1328775366509428736?s=20

That seems...a bit small considering how much maintenance went on yesterday

 

[Fatmanonice]

Geno was also one of the 6 I'm guessing?

Steve, Hero, Ryu, Geno, Waluigi, and arguably Lloyd. Multiple people associated with these characters have gotten C&D's since fall 2018. Like I said in my last post, I was asked before I made my last post not to name specific names (as in the "leakers") but the information isn't exactly hard to find and most of you already know. The reason for this is that several of these people want to distance themselves from these incidents as much as possible.

 

[StarMagician]

Multiple people associated with these characters have gotten C&D's since fall 2018.

can you name them

 

[Deleted member]

can you name them

He said he can’t. One person I can think of is Paragon.

 

[StarLight42]

That seems...a bit small considering how much maintenance went on yesterday

It’s just one aspect of the maintenance, but I do think it is a bit damaging to the paypal evidence.

can you name them

“ I was asked before I made my last post not to name specific names (as in the "leakers") but the information isn't exactly hard to find and most of you already know.”

“can you name them”