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Maybe. That's the shoe I'm waiting to see drop. Like I've said, nothing Koei Tecmo has come up except Ryu and I'm honestly wondering what this all means. We just now know there was likely significance in Ryu coming up as early as 2018 but we don't know what yet.
I still think that Mario tournament WOULD have been connected, but is not anymore on the current timeline.
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So, this "insider" was told this, but the orders ended up being wrong.
They have been right on stuff in the past, but also wrong on a lot too.
It true though, this doesn't bode well for Geno
That would make sense. We'll just have to wait and see. Regardless, I do think Ryu Hayabusa is probably the most likely character now and the only one I'm willing to bet on.
Oh, Hotgirl can CAN IT. This is piggybacking at it's finest. "Oh, Travis in Smash has been going around a bunch since Suda didn't answer a question about smash, better cryptically tease that it's Travis. What's that, I was wrong? Uh, actually we heard Minecraft was coming in SPRING but never said anything about it, also Ryu and another Zelda character are in lol, we just know 4 of the characters in the Pass and their release windows."There was a problem fetching the tweet
So, this "insider" was told this, but the orders ended up being wrong.
They have been right on stuff in the past, but also wrong on a lot too.
It true though, this doesn't bode well for Geno
TheCJBrine
I gotta thoroughly apologize for all the times I dunked on Steve or played down his chances in this thread. You had a passion for the character and I was probably coming off as rude.
Cadence (Crypt of the Necrodancer), Johanna Dark (Perfect Dark), 2B (Nier Automata) and a Sony character were the names he was given
We certainly could use that Joanna Dark costume so that the 2B costume seems more likely alongside Mallow and Smithy to come with Geno.
What a wacky timeline we would live in if Steve is a fighter and Master Chief is a Mii Costume. That being said, Steve looks like a great WTF character. I have zero interest in Minecraft but, in the context of Smash, Steve looks dope. It's also great that this wasn't leaked the night before. I'm convinced now, more than ever, that Geno will be the final reveal.
Damn, I pretty much agree with everything here, only difference is, I probably couldn't have written in so much detail.So, first things first, I gotta gloat.
Every time I said that Sakurai said the character needs to have showed up on a Nintendo console? I was right. Sorry, Master Chief. And it's looking really likely that mechanics that are so outlandish they push the boundaries of Smash is the reason that the estimated finish date is in 2021 is also something I was right about. Oh, and you know the best part?
Every time I said that a 10 AM presentation for a character sucks? Because they know Smash fans are not gonna be hype? Wew, lad.
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Alright, that's enough of that. There's no real winners here, namely because I also have to hold an L.
So... after having thought about it heavily, this being an E3 reveal makes sense even in the context of Sakurai saying that it took forever to make this character work. Steve is clearly a character who has to gather resources from the stage and has interactions with every stage in a unique way, and yes, that did take time, but probably not 10 months of 2020. Note that Sakurai was still speaking from his house, (on his couch that everyone acted like costs a fortune when it's just about an average priced couch, my mans ain't shopping at Ikea) do we know for sure that he and the team are still working from home? Japan ended their lockdown in late May, which was shortly after Sakurai filmed Min Min's video by his own admission.
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I find myself genuinely wondering if that little tree behind him is fake. It seems like it would be very hard to care for an actual live tree, and one of the trees has nothing to catch any water that may come out of the bottom when watering it... But that bad boy hasn't changed at all between the Min Min and Steve presentations. This is probably a silly assumption to make, but I don't think this Steve recording happened long after the Min Min one. Something else to note is that the video quality in the Steve recording seems to be a bit worse, but it could just be because of how bright it is in Sakurai's living room.
Obviously, had E3 happened, this recording likely wouldn't have come from his house, but I just wanted to throw it out there that Steve did not take this long and, as we usually suspect, Sakurai has been done with him for ages and had to wait for Nintendo to move. What we saw would have been ready to go at E3. Now, I don't think there was a character swap - I think that unfortunately, Nintendo is just so ****ing braindead that they don't realize what a match made in heaven Geno and the number 77 is. Maybe it's something they felt would be too obvious? Either way, I'm with Fatman on the fact that E3 probably had two characters lined up because it always does.
A musing I had earlier that I feel might be of importance is that at E3 2019, Nintendo lead off with a Square pick that was 100% a business move. Hero was advertising an exclusive version of Dragon Quest 11 and was a really strong play by SquareEnix to pump up the popularity of Dragon Quest in the west. Nintendo also went to Microsoft and retrieved a 100% fan pick that benefit them in absolutely no way aside from the media attention it got. I mean, let us not forget that Sakurai had to say "go play Banjo Kazooie on the Xbox" and Nintendo itself was surprised that Banjo was actually as popular as we made him out to be.
Now let's see 2020. Nintendo leads off with a Microsoft pick that was 100% a business move. Minecraft is the best selling game of all time and they know it's going to turn heads to be in Smash and sell like hotcakes. To them, it's likely to increase awareness of Minecraft and its spinoffs being available on Switch and that's going to be a powerful flag to bear in the coming years as Nintendo maybe kind of has a somewhat more powerful Switch version coming out and that's all they've got to compete with the big dogs. Providing a budget alternative that can run one of the most popular franchises in the world very well could be their game plan. So if we were to continue mirroring E3, we would get a fan pick from SquareEnix that does very little for Nintendo... But we have heard so much about Super Mario RPG Remake... Would that even be the case?
I also want to throw out there that despite how long it's been, I don't think Cacomallow is off the table yet. If this had been any normal year, sure... but Nintendo has screwed the pooch and have had the ultimate excuse to cover them. I think we can give it a little more leeway than we would anything else in normal circumstances. Not to mention, the Mario tournament was scheduled for "November or December", like once again, they didn't know exactly when they were going to be ready for it... It's just strange.
I feel like there was more that I wanted to point out, but I'm hungry and maybe still ****ed up by the fact that Minecraft Steve is in Smash and looks like he was photoshopped into every screenshot he's in. This thread had over 300 guests in it earlier and I hate to disappoint you guys but no one here is gonna go nuclear, you're not gonna farm salt out of us.
Geno lived, *****.
a very interesting analysis. and you are right, Geno fans aren't going to blow up. actually, not all smash fans are gonna blow up in anger from thisSo, first things first, I gotta gloat.
Every time I said that Sakurai said the character needs to have showed up on a Nintendo console? I was right. Sorry, Master Chief. And it's looking really likely that mechanics that are so outlandish they push the boundaries of Smash is the reason that the estimated finish date is in 2021 is also something I was right about. Oh, and you know the best part?
Every time I said that a 10 AM presentation for a character sucks? Because they know Smash fans are not gonna be hype? Wew, lad.
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Alright, that's enough of that. There's no real winners here, namely because I also have to hold an L.
So... after having thought about it heavily, this being an E3 reveal makes sense even in the context of Sakurai saying that it took forever to make this character work. Steve is clearly a character who has to gather resources from the stage and has interactions with every stage in a unique way, and yes, that did take time, but probably not 10 months of 2020. Note that Sakurai was still speaking from his house, (on his couch that everyone acted like costs a fortune when it's just about an average priced couch, my mans ain't shopping at Ikea) do we know for sure that he and the team are still working from home? Japan ended their lockdown in late May, which was shortly after Sakurai filmed Min Min's video by his own admission.
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I find myself genuinely wondering if that little tree behind him is fake. It seems like it would be very hard to care for an actual live tree, and one of the trees has nothing to catch any water that may come out of the bottom when watering it... But that bad boy hasn't changed at all between the Min Min and Steve presentations. This is probably a silly assumption to make, but I don't think this Steve recording happened long after the Min Min one. Something else to note is that the video quality in the Steve recording seems to be a bit worse, but it could just be because of how bright it is in Sakurai's living room.
Obviously, had E3 happened, this recording likely wouldn't have come from his house, but I just wanted to throw it out there that Steve did not take this long and, as we usually suspect, Sakurai has been done with him for ages and had to wait for Nintendo to move. What we saw would have been ready to go at E3. Now, I don't think there was a character swap - I think that unfortunately, Nintendo is just so ****ing braindead that they don't realize what a match made in heaven Geno and the number 77 is. Maybe it's something they felt would be too obvious? Either way, I'm with Fatman on the fact that E3 probably had two characters lined up because it always does.
A musing I had earlier that I feel might be of importance is that at E3 2019, Nintendo lead off with a Square pick that was 100% a business move. Hero was advertising an exclusive version of Dragon Quest 11 and was a really strong play by SquareEnix to pump up the popularity of Dragon Quest in the west. Nintendo also went to Microsoft and retrieved a 100% fan pick that benefit them in absolutely no way aside from the media attention it got. I mean, let us not forget that Sakurai had to say "go play Banjo Kazooie on the Xbox" and Nintendo itself was surprised that Banjo was actually as popular as we made him out to be.
Now let's see 2020. Nintendo leads off with a Microsoft pick that was 100% a business move. Minecraft is the best selling game of all time and they know it's going to turn heads to be in Smash and sell like hotcakes. To them, it's likely to increase awareness of Minecraft and its spinoffs being available on Switch and that's going to be a powerful flag to bear in the coming years as Nintendo maybe kind of has a somewhat more powerful Switch version coming out and that's all they've got to compete with the big dogs. Providing a budget alternative that can run one of the most popular franchises in the world very well could be their game plan. So if we were to continue mirroring E3, we would get a fan pick from SquareEnix that does very little for Nintendo... But we have heard so much about Super Mario RPG Remake... Would that even be the case?
I also want to throw out there that despite how long it's been, I don't think Cacomallow is off the table yet. If this had been any normal year, sure... but Nintendo has screwed the pooch and have had the ultimate excuse to cover them. I think we can give it a little more leeway than we would anything else in normal circumstances. Not to mention, the Mario tournament was scheduled for "November or December", like once again, they didn't know exactly when they were going to be ready for it... It's just strange.
I feel like there was more that I wanted to point out, but I'm hungry and maybe still ****ed up by the fact that Minecraft Steve is in Smash and looks like he was photoshopped into every screenshot he's in. This thread had over 300 guests in it earlier and I hate to disappoint you guys but no one here is gonna go nuclear, you're not gonna farm salt out of us.
Geno lived, *****.
I hope you’re right. I think Steve is a great addition & I love Minecraft, but it’s a bit of a blow to my dreams of Chief. I have to imagine this is how a lot of you guys felt with Hero last year.
So if the next wave of Smash amiibo get announced on Saturday, is that date going to be around when we expect Fighter 8 to be revealed?
Well amiibo theory has been flawless so far, so their release will at least give us a timeframe to work with.
If not the amiibo release dates, we can always rely on good ol' 7/11.
Or that Paintbrush dude from Reddit. Sucker has an impeccable record
I would use the skeleton alt...
Thank you Mr. Needlemouse.
Everyone give a thank you to Sonic
Nintendo never once owned Rare. Steve is second. Though still exciting as hell lol
Yeah because I'm definitely getting deja vu. Remember when Xenother and Hitagi said in 2018 they believed Steve was coming because they claimed they not only saw screenshots but even video footage? Maybe they were telling the truth based on what Imran Khan said today. On my end, Chief still has a lot in his corner and I'm genuinely sorry if he winds up being a Mii costume but A LOT of people can verify that a lot of funny business has been going on with Chief since last fall. He's another one of those "peak prevalence" characters like Geno and Ryu that so many reputable people have heard him that something's definitely up with him. There's some people in my circle I can ask to see if they would be willing to publicly back me on the stuff on Chief because it's definitely not a Fatman Exclusive ™.
At this point, all we can do is wait for Saturday, watch for the Mii Fighter costumes and next wave of amiibo announcements, and start speculating on FP8 from there
Y'know it's actually kinda funny, the Enderman alt is basically a re-textured Skeleton model.I would use the skeleton alt...
At least we’ll always have Sans.I would use the skeleton alt...
well THAT certainly peaks interest
Didn't they also use that Enderman skin in one of those old Xbox 360 skin packs?
There is. I've seen quite a few, actually.
Blame China.I would use the skeleton alt...
and in regards of how he fights. Or be some kind of an odd Earthmaker/Geomancer. And I also thought that there has to be some kind of Alt-Appearances for him due to one being able to change his appearance and making him different. Somehow, someway.
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