Geno (♥♪!?): Return of the Starsend Savior

[Sigran101]

We will have to wait until september to get CP7 revealed, hopefully we may also get CP8 identity.

Meanwhile, enjoy ARMS presentation this monday and cross your fingers to see some Mii Costumes from “mii costume guy leaked list”.

Oh I didn't realize we had a leaker here. Why is everyone so certain we won't get anything else until September? This fanbase is so pessimistic.

 

[MattX20]

Basically the situation is either Nintendo reveals something soon or it's deadass waiting until September. Part of probably why Nintendo doesn't do major presentations in July too is because, like I said, many Japanese people take their vacation time in July and August and prepping a presentation is a ton of ****in' work. Like I've talked about in the past, my NoA ambassador friend has told me that they start prepping those ****ers like a month and a half to two months out. That's a lot of work and, as a grownass man, I'm painfully aware that long-term projects can utterly drain you and nobody wants to be borderline dead before they go on vacation or, worse, having to start/finish one shortly after coming back.

They've got to make up for the lack of E3 news somehow.

 

[super88cloud]

They've got to make up for the lack of E3 news somehow.

I genuinely do believe that if there isn´t a Nintendo direct in the next two weeks, we will wait till September.

 

[CannonStreak]

I do hope we do get news aside from the ARMS fighter soon. Still, didn't Nintendo release Directs every two months before Iwata died? I could be mistaken, but I do remember some frequency.

 

[Fatmanonice]

I do hope we do get news aside from the ARMS fighter soon. Still, didn't Nintendo release Directs every two months before Iwata died? I could be mistaken, but I do remember some frequency.

Here's the history of Directs:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nintendo_Direct

You'll notice that the ones in July and August typically focus on a single game and they're not common. They're also either very early or very late in the month. So, all this said, the clock is hard ticking because, at this rate, the only July presentation will be for Paper Mario and we're already burned out on Twitter updates on it.

 

[CannonStreak]

Here's the history of Directs:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nintendo_Direct

You'll notice that the ones in July and August typically focus on a single game and they're not common. They're also either very early or very late in the month. So, all this said, the clock is hard ticking because, at this rate, the only July presentation will be for Paper Mario and we're already burned out on Twitter updates on it.

Apparently, there was an Nintendo Direct in August in Japan, 2012. There was another August Direct early in the month in 2013, too, for the world. Since Iwata died, things have changed of course, but who knows? Maybe they will revert back to doing something like that this once because of COVID-19?

 

[MattX20]

Here's the history of Directs:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nintendo_Direct

You'll notice that the ones in July and August typically focus on a single game and they're not common. They're also either very early or very late in the month. So, all this said, the clock is hard ticking because, at this rate, the only July presentation will be for Paper Mario and we're already burned out on Twitter updates on it.

Plus, with the overall big celebration for Mario's 35th anniversary that's been talked about, the new Paper Mario title on its own wouldn't cut the mustard

 

[CannonStreak]

Plus, with the overall big celebration for Mario's 35th anniversary that's been talked about, the new Paper Mario title on its own wouldn't cut the mustard

Of course. That, and they're gonna have to reveal some things before September. Something tells me waiting until then won't be a good idea.

 

[Phoenix Douchebag]

Everybody says September but I see Late July at the earliest Late August at the latest.

There have been reveals and Directs in July and August as the Wikipedia ND article shows. Hell, Hero was released in July so i don't know where this Oba Oba excuse is coming from. Im not saying we will get Directs but i easily see Sakurai dropping a DLC reveal in July and August.

Of course im talking about Fighter 7, we have no idea how long 8 is gonna take.

 

[Fenriraga]

If nothing else, I'm glad they once again specified they won't be giving information on any of the future fighters.

I was admittedly one of the dummies who insisted "This entire presentation can't be ALL about one character" when they said it for Terry. Not that it's their fault of course, but still. Inclined to believe them this time, haha.

 

[MonkeyDLenny]

Basically the situation is either Nintendo reveals something soon or it's deadass waiting until September. Part of probably why Nintendo doesn't do major presentations in July too is because, like I said, many Japanese people take their vacation time in July and August and prepping a presentation is a ton of ****in' work. Like I've talked about in the past, my NoA ambassador friend has told me that they start prepping those ****ers like a month and a half to two months out. That's a lot of work and, as a grownass man, I'm painfully aware that long-term projects can utterly drain you and nobody wants to be borderline dead before they go on vacation or, worse, having to start/finish one shortly after coming back.

One small problem: The virus has basically cancelled everything. Even if the state of emergency is gone, will peeps in Japan still be taking vacations in July?

 

[NonSpecificGuy]

Here's the history of Directs:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nintendo_Direct

You'll notice that the ones in July and August typically focus on a single game and they're not common. They're also either very early or very late in the month. So, all this said, the clock is hard ticking because, at this rate, the only July presentation will be for Paper Mario and we're already burned out on Twitter updates on it.

I think it’s worth noting that, when it comes to those cases, we didn’t have a whole event outright cancelled like we did this year. E3 usually is meant to be the big blow out for the rest of the year and usually holds us over till September, and that’s just didn’t happen so plans may have to shift into July to make up for that. Just speculation but if they really are having to wait till September to show off their holiday titles it’s going to be a tough holiday for them.

 

[Droodle]

Droodle https://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/en/

Yes, there are meetings throughout the year but they're not the same. They have one big one every summer after E3 and this year's is the 80th annual... in the middle of a pandemic...in the middle of a global depression... It's kind of important.

The situation of this investor meeting is definitely special, but it has nothing to do with Nintendo secretly having a direct prepared for next week to please investors. With the global situation investors are more likely to accept that Nintendo is having trouble creating a proper direct.

And that isn't to say we aren't getting games next week. Investors will be plenty happy with the new Pokemon things revealed, and who knows maybe Nintendo will reveal 1-2 more games too. This can all be done outside of a direct.

Also NateDrake (trusted insider) stated last week that a general direct isn't coming soon. Now he doesn't have a 100% record or anything, but generally speaking he is pretty accurate about these kinds of things.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/ni...tter-far-more-than-video-games.221071/page-96
Drake's reply is on this page.

So, it's still pretty likely that a Nintendo direct (at least a general one) isn't coming soon. If it was a "smash" direct that is being held in the same week, then why didn't they just combine it with the ARMS presentation? Unless 7 has a full blown presentation ready, I doubt a Smash direct would take more then 10 minutes or so (if it's just the reveals for 7 and 8). There's really nothing saying that something is happening on Thursday. Sure, Monday is definitely unexpected, but being unexpected doesn't really mean that something else is on it's way. Nintendo has already admitted that marketing has been affected, so who strange things are bound to occur.

So really, nothing is indicating we're getting a General/Smash direct next week. We may end up getting some more games announced, like Mario remasters or something but those things don't indicate a direct currently.

 

[Qeomash]

I'm not at all surprised we're only getting the ARMs reveal. It's what I've been expecting for months, especially given how long of a timeframe they've left for themselves on the second pass. Sakurai said they would release the characters through December 2021. So, now that we have June known for this fighter (I'm willing to bet it drops Monday or Tuesday afternoon), that leaves 17 months until the fighter's pass is done. Divide that by the 5 remaining characters, that's ever 3.5 months or so. Based on that, we're not getting 7 until September at the earliest. I wouldn't be surprised if they push it back even further to separate it from a general direct.

So, my predictions, working backwards from the end date:

• October or early November
• February
• June
• September
• December

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

One small problem: The virus has basically cancelled everything. Even if the state of emergency is gone, will peeps in Japan still be taking vacations in July?

people all around the world have collectively said "**** it" and started going out again

 

[Fatmanonice]

Droodle Again, going back to the elephant in the room, other companies aren't having as much issue of putting stuff out as Nintendo and everyone has taken notice. Given this is a global pandemic, all these companies are under similar conditions. What makes Nintendo wildly different? This is on top of the fact that the Spring Direct, spring Mario presentation, AND E3 presentations were canned and Nintendo has told third parties to just go ahead and reveal stuff because they won't be expecting to do Directs again until September. I don't see why it's utterly impossible for Nintendo to put together a presentation of its own stuff when we've already seen a good number of companies, including Sony, do just that.

 

[Qeomash]

Droodle Again, going back to the elephant in the room, other companies aren't having as much issue of putting stuff out as Nintendo and everyone has taken notice. Given this is a global pandemic, all these companies are under similar conditions. What makes Nintendo wildly different? This is on top of the fact that the Spring Direct, spring Mario presentation, AND E3 presentations were canned and Nintendo has told third parties to just go ahead and reveal stuff because they won't be expecting to do Directs again until September. I don't see why it's utterly impossible for Nintendo to put together a presentation of its own stuff when we've already seen a good number of companies, including Sony, do just that.

One thing to note is that Nintendo of America (probably one of the bigger parts of the PR/announcements section of the company) is headquartered in Redmond, WA which is a suburb of Seattle, WA. Seattle was, if people aren't aware, the city in the US that was hit with the first major outbreak of COVID.

 

[Fatmanonice]

Everybody says September but I see Late July at the earliest Late August at the latest.

There have been reveals and Directs in July and August as the Wikipedia ND article shows. Hell, Hero was released in July so i don't know where this Oba Oba excuse is coming from. Im not saying we will get Directs but i easily see Sakurai dropping a DLC reveal in July and August.

Of course im talking about Fighter 7, we have no idea how long 8 is gonna take.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bon_Festival

The holiday is about honoring and remembering peoples' ancestors so, yes, it's very important and why it's worked around. Beyond that, the last character we had revealed outside of a presentation/Direct? Robin and Lucina in 2014 and they were base game. None of the DLC characters have been revealed outside of presentations and we already know that "somebody" new is going to be released in September which means we're waiting until September for the third shadowdrop presentation in a row or we're getting a reveal in late June or early July.

 

[Trevenant]

If we were getting a triple reveal they seriously would have combined this with the direct that would happen. The lack of a budget argument can't be applied here either as if they have enough of a budget to do a direct with 2 reveals then it wouldn't have took much effort to quickly throw something together for the ARMS character just so it's suitable for a direct format. We should probably keep our expectations in check. Maybe one before September but definitely not 2 at this point

 

[QQS]

Well my opinion is that finally we are about to see which character is #76 and what happens with the Spirits/Assist being upgraded to fighters, which would confirm 100% our theory of Geno in Smash.

Aside of that, like Enigma735 said, this lead us that CP7 could be perfectly Third, and that why they are saving him for later. Like Fatmanonice said also, I’m totally rooting now for a 77-78 reveal in the next presentation, just like Joker was alone; and then Hero-Banjo together.

Of course the Mii costume section is always panic but I don’t think Geno is being Mii Costumed again and he will be playable. Also they won’t send us Geno costume in an Arms reveal. For me there will be another indie rep, probably The Knight.

Also, finally a grain of hope and to finally seal character #76, which of course would be a “later today”. After that, there are no doubts that 77 will be shown in the next showcase, probably as I said, with 78. I think those are Geno and Crash. It would also follow the Square+Western pattern slot in the FP1.

Don’t give up cause this is climbing up and Geno will happen anyway. I don’t mind to have a July reveal with #77 (and #78) cause I turn 30 on July 4th and Geno would be my best gift ever!

Or maybe Geno who is DLC #7, from the game Super Mario RPG: Legend of the 7 Stars, and also character #77, could drop the 7/7 (July 7th).

Excited for the ARMS reveal and see what’s next! Finally some Smash news/updates, it’s always good to have a new character, stage and music. Between the multi reps or a single one, I would be happy just with Min Min.

LETS GET THIS SHOW ON THE ROAD!

 

[Icewolff92]

Robin and Lucina in 2014 and they were base game.

I remember that reveal. I screamed of happiness when I saw that one and I¨m not even ashamed to admit that

 

[Fatmanonice]

Either way, I feel like if we're getting a Smash reveal (or any major Nintendo reveal for that matter) before September it's either going to be this week or the week of July 6th. I really don't see them doing it outside of this for the reasons I stated earlier. I can potentially concede on this coming week but I still want to see what's up with Thursday.

 

[CannonStreak]

Either way, I feel like if we're getting a Smash reveal (or any major Nintendo reveal for that matter) before September it's either going to be this week or the week of July 6th. I really don't see them doing it outside of this for the reasons I stated earlier. I can potentially concede on this coming week but I still want to see what's up with Thursday.

Agreed. I am betting on July 6th. You think anything non-Smash would be revealed at the same time, if only a little?

 

[Icewolff92]

This might we worth something.
https://twitter.com/OnTheDownLoTho/status/1274105486258864131
https://twitter.com/HotGirlVideos69

 

[CannonStreak]

This might we worth something.
https://twitter.com/OnTheDownLoTho/status/1274105486258864131
https://twitter.com/HotGirlVideos69

Interesting. I will keep an eye out. Question is, who is this girl, exactly? A name is all I'll need.

 

[Icewolff92]

Interesting. I will keep an eye out. Question is, who is this girl, exactly? A name is all I'll need.

I have no idea, the only reason I found her were because of GameCages post

 

[Qeomash]

What has she been consistent about? Is this that porn star from awhile back who was apparently completely wrong about several things?

 

[Nanami77]

Either way, I feel like if we're getting a Smash reveal (or any major Nintendo reveal for that matter) before September it's either going to be this week or the week of July 6th. I really don't see them doing it outside of this for the reasons I stated earlier. I can potentially concede on this coming week but I still want to see what's up with Thursday.

I honestly don’t see anything happening until September. Unless there is legit evidence, anything before that is wishful thinking imo.

 

[Giga Kaiju]

Man, it's been awhile since I have posted on here or lurked even but seems like FINALLY we have a date for the ARMS fighter. Wondering who will it be.

Also, the Mii Costume section it's going to be a thing to take in consideration of we're only getting the ARMS character and that's it. Prepare yourselves, indeed.

We're so close guys, let's just enjoy the ride and hopefully one day we get a direct for general games of Nintendo for a change.

.

 

[TheCJBrine]

This might we worth something.
https://twitter.com/OnTheDownLoTho/status/1274105486258864131
https://twitter.com/HotGirlVideos69

*sees leaks*
Seems legit.

*sees the leaker’s page*
Seems gross.

 

[Let Geno Smash]

This might we worth something.
https://twitter.com/OnTheDownLoTho/status/1274105486258864131
https://twitter.com/HotGirlVideos69

IF she is right, which i doubt (She said that BOTW 2 and Prime 4 will get news on the March 26 direct), i will make a "Calling It By Now"
6/12: PM:TOK news
6/19 Sakurai presents ARMS date
7/6 Both CP7 and CP8
7/12: Either Mario 3D Remastered, Prime Trilogy, Pikmin 3 or 3D world

 

[QQS]

I can imagine Sakurai starting with this joke on July 7th (Tuesday):

“Well, today it’s the 7 month of the year, day 7, we are going to show up the next DLC number 7, which translates to fighter 77, from a game where you have to collect 7 stars. It seems all the stars are aligned for this...”

papagenos Fatmanonice TerminalMontage

 

[Phoenix Douchebag]

This might we worth something.
https://twitter.com/OnTheDownLoTho/status/1274105486258864131
https://twitter.com/HotGirlVideos69

How are we sure this isn't just a "Twitter Trick"? (as mentioned by papagenos )

Also is it me or whenever people notice these kinds of people they automatically get everything else in the future wrong?

 

[Sigran101]

I think we should prepare for the possibility that it might be Max Brass since it's basically looking like him or Springman. I don't think that would be the nail in the coffin for Geno because he makes a lot of sense for the second choice ARMS rep if Springman can't be in regardless of spirits, but we would definitely have waves of detractors claiming Geno is "deconfirmed".

 

[CannonStreak]

I think we should prepare for the possibility that it might be Max Brass since it's basically looking like him or Springman. I don't think that would be the nail in the coffin for Geno because he makes a lot of sense for the second choice ARMS rep if Springman can't be in regardless of spirits, but we would definitely have waves of detractors claiming Geno is "deconfirmed".

Don't you happen to know? I am prepared for anything, including this!

 

[Fatmanonice]

So, where we're at right now:

-ARMS is coming... By itself.

-This heavily supports that the ARMS character probably was supposed to be the April release.

-Based on this, E3 was likely originally planned to be at least a double.

-E3 died so... What happened to those two reveals?

-September Amiibo wave suggests at least one will be announced by September.

-Pretty small window for next announcement: basically a three week time span between now and July 10tn.

-Unclear what will happen to the other one. Could either be announced with 7 or is being saved until September for the return of Directs.

 

[MattX20]

So, where we're at right now:

-ARMS is coming... By itself.

-This heavily supports that the ARMS character probably was supposed to be the April release.

-Based on this, E3 was likely originally planned to be at least a double.

-E3 died so... What happened to those two reveals?

-September Amiibo wave suggests at least one will be announced by September.

-Pretty small window for next announcement: basically a three week time span between now and July 10tn.

-Unclear what will happen to the other one. Could either be announced with 7 or is being saved until September for the return of Directs.

It's going to be a long three weeks to determine what course Nintendo went with

 

[EarlTamm]

I think we should prepare for the possibility that it might be Max Brass since it's basically looking like him or Springman. I don't think that would be the nail in the coffin for Geno because he makes a lot of sense for the second choice ARMS rep if Springman can't be in regardless of spirits, but we would definitely have waves of detractors claiming Geno is "deconfirmed".

Why just those two?

 

[Sigran101]

Why just those two?

Because according to Stealth (I think it was stealth, wasn't it?) The gender of the character would give it away. Considering how many female characters are serious options it seems like that means it's a male character (he also said not Helix so it's not an it) of the male characters Springman and Max Brass are the only realistic options. All just speculation based on a hint from a leaker, so take it with a grain of salt.

 

[YsDisciple]

We get the ARMS reveal on Monday 22nd in the morning,...
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and later after Crash Bandicoot 4: It's About Time is revealed at the Summer Games Fest showcase around 30 mins to an hour later, Geoff saves the day (like in 2018) with a surprise reveal of Crash Bandicoot joining Smash Bros. Ultimate.

Thinking on this possibility just a little while ago, I saw certain parallels between the first, and second fighters pass. Although Piranha Plant is not part of the first Fighters Pass, she is still a DLC fighter, and is shown as the first DLC fighter on the SSBU website. Being a character from a Nintendo IP, it sort of mirrors with this second Fighters Pass, with the ARMS rep being the first CP (another Nintendo IP). Now, the second DLC fighter (yet first CP from the first Pass) was revealed during The Game Awards 2018; Joker from Persona 5, a third party IP (from Atlus). Again, with the second fighters pass, we could be in for its parallel scenario with a potential CP 7 reveal during Monday's Summer Games Fest Showcase.

This is all just some food for thought/speculation. For the moment, we wait for the ARMS rep on Monday.