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Geno (♥♪!?): Return of the Starsend Savior

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Ouma

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Heihachi was scrapped because Sakurai confirmed in an interview that his moveset was too complicated to work. Tekken is well known for very advanced button combinations, so I can see how trying to simplify complex control schemes would be headache inducing.
Not the point.

The point is that it had absolutely nothing to do with his PSABR appearance, he was considered regardless of it.
 
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Also I don't want to come off as being someone who's arguing points. Everyone should support who they want, and I ain't here to debate that.

If you want another character in that's fine respect to ya and I won't argue those points always good to hear people's options and I applogize if I wrongfully called you a Geno hater you all seem like cool people so my best you you.

Anyway drought continues I guess.
 

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"Sour grapes" would require me to be sour about something. I'm not a fan of Nier or Tomb Raider, and have no interest in seeing 2B or Lara Croft in Smash.

All I'm saying is that it's not really a good look for this thread to go in the direction of "How can we disconfirm non-Geno characters that Square owns!?", especially given the sheer level of sensitivity this fandom tends to have in response to people doing the same thing to Geno.
I'll probably reach out to you in DMs as I am curious about your stance on this board and I dont want to be too off topic.

In the mean time, I'm not really looking to question your position on it, as I agree with what you share saying. I think it's hard to really deconfirm a character based on cameo appearances outside of Smash Bros. As someone who wants Rayman after Geno, I have to keep this position.
 

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I feel like I can almost still hear the echoes of Big Brain Woomy from Saturday despite him getting sucked into a jet engine at the end of his post. Maybe he's still trying to contact us from the afterlife.
 

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In my PERSONAL OPINION, i feel like whenever a character joins as a guest character in some other fighting game, it is definitely something to kee track of, so Rayman, 2B and now Lara Croft. I feel like Lara being in Brawlhalla now of all times does hit her chances in being in fighters pass season 2. Mainly because I feel like season 2 characters were most likely negotiated for before lara crofts negotiations for Brawlhalla, so I doubt Nintendo/Sakurai would be too excited to have one of their future guest characters already show up in a fighting game. Now im going to exclude Terry being in that one fighting game because in my PERSONAL OPINION i dont think nintendo and sakurai would have minded as Terry is... well, a fighting game character.
 

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Heihachi was scrapped because Sakurai confirmed in an interview that his moveset was too complicated to work. Tekken is well known for very advanced button combinations, so I can see how trying to simplify complex control schemes would be headache inducing.
If you think about it, wouldn't the bigger time window for FPv2 means that some of the chharacters of the new pass are more complicated, and need more time to be made into the game?
 
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Hey guys is there another place your all in? Aside from here I don't really use discord but if there's somewhere where we can still discuss Geno is this gets locked again?
 

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Thank you for proving my point once again. Random people showing up and not even on topic.
It actually is, since it all started when arguments were being made about Lara and 2B being deconfirmed. Which was then promptly called out for being baseless and straw grasping.
 
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Hey guys is there another place your all in? Aside from here I don't really use discord but if there's somewhere where we can still discuss Geno is this gets locked again?
I don’t really know but Discord is THE best place to go. If anyone wants to join the discord PM me and I’ll send you the link.
 

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You think Geno would still use classic Super Mario RPG sound effects for some if not all of his moves?
I'd like to take the Mega Man route where he has classic sounds from SMRPG but they are remade to sound crispy and HD.
 

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Aside from Geno, my most wanted would be Dante, Doomguy, Elma from Xenoblade Chronicles X, Rayman, and Travis Touchdown from No More Heroes.

There'd be plenty of other characters that I'd like to see or would be okay with (I have a tough time when it comes to thinking of characters with realistic chances that I wouldn't want), but those have pretty consistently been my top six, in no particular order.

I don't know who to expect, though - I have a pretty bad track record in that regard. (I thought we'd get Terry eventually, but certainly not as soon as we did, and both Cloud and Banjo seemed like they'd be extremely unlikely, from my perspective, for one reason or another)
Aside from Geno the characters I'd want the other 5 DLC Fighters in FP2 to be are:
1. Heihachi Mishima
2. Bandana Waddle Dee
3. Travis Touchdown
4. Crash Bandicoot
5. Spyro the dragon
 

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Here's a grand question: why do you care? For someone who's regularly called a hack and a fraud, people take my opinions and speculation awfully seriously.
He’s already banned. What a shocker.

Wait for him to create an alt for your reply
 

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Here's a grand question: why do you care? For someone who's regularly called a hack and a fraud, people take my opinions and speculation awfully seriously.
N-no Fatman senpai, y-your opinion doesn't matter to me at all. J-just could you p-pwease make another post s-so I can debunk it?
 
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He specifically said that they haven’t been approached, period. The way he phrased it was in a way that Doom could potentially get completely shafted at all fronts.

Not sure why you are trying to revive this already debunked leak. But I guess its because your MW is on it, so it must be real.

Or maybe its because the enormous leaps of logic being taken to deconfirm Lara Croft and 2B?

Sorry that not everyone thinks Geno is a lock.
Where is your proof that CacoMallow is debunked? No one has been able to debunk it since November. So, show me this proof please?

As far as Geno, I've stated the proof many times over already: Ultimate has catered to longterm fan requests and Geno is the final big longterm fan request; Sakuri has wanted to put Geno in since Brawl and thinks he's perfect for Smash and now Final Fantasy and Dragon Quest both have representation and no other Square character has enough 'pull' to pull ahead of Geno; and finally, his costume still hasn't returned despite it being free money for Square and having ample time and opportunity to do so.

These three things are factual things that are 100% in Geno's favor that place his stance very firmly and very strong.

EDIT: Forgot to say, but you are also wrong about Doom. Bethesda has spoken to Smash devs and in that interview Statton mentions they HAVE talked to the Smash team be he's unable to say who he's spoken with. He only says that Doomguy hasn't been seriously considered for Smash. Caco Helmet is still entirely possible to exist without Doomguy.

Funny how no one has responded to Burbs point about Heihachi being considered for Smash 4 despite his PSABR appearance yet.
I already did: Heihachi is the face of Tekken, and Heihachi IF he had shown up in Smash 4 it would have been his FIRST TIME being in two games in such a manner EVER in history DESPITE being the face of Tekken. Even if he HAD been in Smash 4, it still falls under him being a face of a popular fighting game franchise.

Also, PSASBR was a game buitl form the ground up to feature iconic Playstation characters, of which Heihachi is definitely one of. This is not a scenario of Heihachi being a guest character in a game that had nothing to do with Tekken or Playstation, like say him being in Smash.

The GameFAQs comment has nothing to do with him saying something I 'didn't like' and more that Burb never shows up here from GameFAQs unless he wants to stir up trouble. This has happened on multiple occasions, and it's confirmed fact that GameFAQs is a cesspool.
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Hey Genobros, we may have to flag mods YET AGAIN!

It's happening again, as per usual.

Wish other fanbases got this much flak.
 
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Im very sure it was the same guy as yesterday. Unfortunately, if it is the same guy, he can just keep making new accounts and keep trolling/flamming.

Sigh, can't have a Geno based thread without ill-content invaders.
 

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What kind if sound effects did Black Mage use in Mario Hoops/Sports Mix?

I'm curious to see if he had original NES effects or something brand new and unique.
 

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Pokemon is unlikely due to the recent spirit event. If we do get a promotional pick from Nintendo, it's more likely to see the Ring Fit Adventure protagonists.
I Admit; It WOULD be cool to see a Smash Bros 1-on-1 Fight between Wii Fit trainer vs Ring Fit adventurer

Though I'd Still want Geno more than the Ring Fit adventurer with Male & Female Alternate Costumes. . .
 
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N-no Fatman senpai, y-your opinion doesn't matter to me at all. J-just could you p-pwease make another post s-so I can debunk it?
It just puts a bug up my ass when I say boo about literally any character that some alarm goes off on 4chan or Gamefaqs and suddenly we have a crowd of people taking the deepest of offense over it. "I think Geno has a better chance than Lara or 2B" is not derogatory. Putting Geno over his competition is not this absolutely craven act of debauchery most foul. Like I said coincidentally only yesterday, I was a full-blown asshole about my opinions on certain characters during the Brawl days and likely would have been jumped several times IRL if I still had the type of delivery.
 

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I Admit; It WOULD be cool to see a Smash Bros 1-on-1 Fight between Wii Fit trainer vs Ring Fit adventurer

Though I'd Still want Geno more than the Ring Fit adventurer with Male & Female Alternate Costumes. . .
There's nothing that says we couldn't get both. Remember, Geno would still be a Square rep, and it's likely we'll see one Nintendo rep in the pass, which the Ring Fit adventurer definitely fits.
 

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Where is your proof that CacoMallow is debunked? No one has been able to debunk it since November. So, show me this proof please?

As far as Geno, I've stated the proof many times over already: Ultimate has catered to longterm fan requests and Geno is the final big longterm fan request; Sakuri has wanted to put Geno in since Brawl and thinks he's perfect for Smash and now Final Fantasy and Dragon Quest both have representation and no other Square character has enough 'pull' to pull ahead of Geno; and finally, his costume still hasn't returned despite it being free money for Square and having ample time and opportunity to do so.

These three things are factual things that are 100% in Geno's favor that place his stance very firmly and very strong.

EDIT: Forgot to say, but you are also wrong about Doom. Bethesda has spoken to Smash devs and in that interview Statton mentions they HAVE talked to the Smash team be he's unable to say who he's spoken with. He only says that Doomguy hasn't been seriously considered for Smash. Caco Helmet is still entirely possible to exist without Doomguy.



I already did: Heihachi is the face of Tekken, and Heihachi IF he had shown up in Smash 4 it would have been his FIRST TIME being in two games in such a manner EVER in history DESPITE being the face of Tekken. Even if he HAD been in Smash 4, it still falls under him being a face of a popular fighting game franchise.

Also, PSASBR was a game buitl form the ground up to feature iconic Playstation characters, of which Heihachi is definitely one of. This is not a scenario of Heihachi being a guest character in a game that had nothing to do with Tekken or Playstation, like say him being in Smash.

The GameFAQs comment has nothing to do with him saying something I 'didn't like' and more that Burb never shows up here from GameFAQs unless he wants to stir up trouble. This has happened on multiple occasions, and it's confirmed fact that GameFAQs is a cesspool.
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Hey Genobros, we may have to flag mods YET AGAIN!

It's happening again, as per usual.

Wish other fanbases got this much flak.
I go to Gamefaqs every now and then and in my PERSONAL OPINION that place is pretty darn horrible, if any thread is related to geno in literally any way its either filled with people talking **** about geno, his fans or then people make fake accounts and pretend to love geno while acting like an asshole on purpose.
 
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There's nothing that says we couldn't get both. Remember, Geno would still be a Square rep, and it's likely we'll see one Nintendo rep in the pass, which the Ring Fit adventurer definitely fits.
True; but If it came down to the wire; when we're down to our last Challenger Pack; and there's only one Slot left; and Geno isn't already in the game by then; If I Had to choose between having either Ring Fit Adventure(who ALSO isn't in the 5 previous Challenger packs of the 2nd Fighters' Pass) in the game or Geno; I'd choose Geno every single time!!
 
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It just puts a bug up my ass when I say boo about literally any character that some alarm goes off on 4chan or Gamefaqs and suddenly we have a crowd of people taking the deepest of offense over it. "I think Geno has a better chance than Lara or 2B" is not derogatory. Putting Geno over his competition is not this absolutely craven act of debauchery most foul. Like I said coincidentally only yesterday, I was a full-blown asshole about my opinions on certain characters during the Brawl days and likely would have been jumped several times IRL if I still had the type of delivery.
Time to start saying things like "I don't think Spongebob and 5th US President James Monroe have much of a chance" and see who comes to try and debunk you.
 

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Time to start saying things like "I don't think Spongebob and 5th US President James Monroe have much of a chance" and see who comes to try and debunk you.
DUH; Neither of them are Characters who originated from Video games; that goes without saying that neither of them are going to be included in the game!!
 

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There's nothing that says we couldn't get both. Remember, Geno would still be a Square rep, and it's likely we'll see one Nintendo rep in the pass, which the Ring Fit adventurer definitely fits.
See, I wanna deviate from my usual SMRPG/Geno talk and just say I agree with this notion. Everyone thinks the (nothing is confirmed mind you) promotional pick Nintendo would choose would be like, Pokemon or something but I truly believe they’d choose a character from an IP not already represented, like Ring Fit Trainer.

Maybe that’s me just hoping Nintendo is somewhat in touch though. If they were, then perhaps that would mean good news for Geno, but a man can dream...
 
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Time to start saying things like "I don't think Spongebob and 5th US President James Monroe have much of a chance" and see who comes to try and debunk you.
(Tom Kenny has entered the chat) No Spongebob?! I resent that remark!!
 

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Couldn't help it Fatmanonice Fatmanonice , I'm going stir crazy from Nintendo so I thought I would geno-fy your image. Don't have to use it.

The voices in my head aren't entertaining me enough until some kind of Nintendo Direct comes. Need to know Smash FP2. Need coffee. Wait, had coffee.

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End Rant.

Go Geno.

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Sorry this got lost in the bunch but I wanted to address something that I'm sure a lot of people have noticed. My avatar doesn't have a Geno hat because I don't want it to seem like it was my idea. People accuse me of being a cult leader and I like that the Geno hat has become this symbol of comraderie here. You all deserve the credit for making it a thing and I don't want people to think it was my idea. It's a Geno fanbase thing, not a "Fatman thing." Again, to quote Comrade Sanders, "not me, us" and I want that distinction to stay intact.
 

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It just puts a bug up my ass when I say boo about literally any character that some alarm goes off on 4chan or Gamefaqs and suddenly we have a crowd of people taking the deepest of offense over it. "I think Geno has a better chance than Lara or 2B" is not derogatory. Putting Geno over his competition is not this absolutely craven act of debauchery most foul. Like I said coincidentally only yesterday, I was a full-blown asshole about my opinions on certain characters during the Brawl days and likely would have been jumped several times IRL if I still had the type of delivery.
The most interesting thing is that it’s not like Geno supporters are actively watching other threads or websites to see when someone says the opposite - “I think 2B has a better chance than Geno,” for example - and then descending upon that thread/website in droves to aggressively argue about why that person is wrong and how dare they disparage Geno’s chances?

But when it comes to Geno detractors, it feels like a lot of them are watching this thread like a hawk, and as soon as someone makes a comment like you did, they flock in droves to express their disapproval that we ... support Geno chances? in the ... Geno support thread? And aggressively argue about why were wrong and how dare we disparage *insert character here*’s chances?

I can clearly see why extended discussions of other characters is being limited by moderator rules, because as soon as you bring up another character - and Squeenix characters especially, with Sora, 2B and Lara Croft all as recent examples - and so much as dare imply in the same sentence that Geno may have a better shot of getting into Ultimate first before them, it becomes a madhouse in here. Of all the characters to be discussed, those three take the cake in terms of people driving off-topic discussions for extended periods of time.
 

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What are Jonathan Jone's weaknesses? I keep losing ;_;
If you beat all of the fodders with him, he will make it a 1 on 1 with Mario. It's way better to make it a 3 on 2 with his goon being pretty irrelevant, so do not touch one of them, and concentrate on damaging him as much as possible. Also, use buffs.
 
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