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Bruh.
I’ll take it to the DMs if a mod tells me to.
Not saying Fatman is right on anything, but if we have our hopes high (except mine, which are moderate in terms of level) then yours must be unrealistically down, in a way that you aren't expecting too much, or are expecting the best of things, if you don't mind me saying.
Then that's our own fault? We don't need people coming into the thread to warn us to not believe him and not to get our hopes up. We all know the drill when it comes to Smash speculation. And a lot of us got Grinch'd, so I think it goes without saying to take things with a grain of salt, but Fatman definitely makes this thread more interesting and gives us more things to talk about, which is much more than I can say about the naysayers. So even if he's wrong, it still helps us pass the time until the next reveal and gives us more things to talk about.
Don't get me wrong, i have nothing against you pal. but you can't call out Fatman for breaking the rules when you're basically doing the same thing by bringing off topic drama again. so whatever you like it or not you're gonna have to take this beef elsewhere
I'd have to agree some. Plus, if we overhype ourselves up for what may happen in January, well, it may be our responsibility alone for doing that, but that is it. It is not
nessdeltarune00
's problem and he should not be worried about us or what happen. Not even
Fatmanonice
's problem, as he did not make any of us or force us believe what he said, let alone a triple reveal that he said was just his theory.
Actually, the second point, considering the Cacomallow leak, I can understand the perception of DLC Fighter #5 being the "flat note" for Smash fans that aren't necessarily savvy of other video game franchises; i.e. DOOM. Personally, connecting both points (and, I've been banking on the idea as well for some time), Doom Slayer closing off the Fighters Pass would be great in my book. A pick many thought would not be possible because of his games (hyper violent), yet DOOM is an important franchise within gaming history in general as being one of the early FPS games that would later influence other new IPs. Again, I can see point #2 being it the perspective of "smash-only/centric" fans that aren't knowledgeable of the DOOM franchise and its significance in gaming, and not the perspective of others who have a more ample gaming palate.
This.
That happens to be an idea I actually like, a lot.
I know you're obviously not going to outright say the name you've heard for #5, but if we're talking about a western character that might share a parent company with the Cacodemon hat, and who's Smash 4 Mii Costumes will (or were supposed to) involve dragon hunting, weapon swinging and armor wielding fantasy characters, then I'm not sure that the first name that pops into my head here would be in need of damage control.
nessdeltarune00
I've already shown my homework on why my thoughts have changed but let's stroll down memory lane of the past four months, shall we?
>”Theory”
Wait
What if it was a theory based on what others he is in contact with told him in small doses each? Let it be known that they do not, or at least do not have to tell him everything they know.
And he has a male anime character's face to go with.
It’s like the Spy from TF2, he just has a paper cut out of Goku’s face strapped over his face.And he has a male anime character's face to go with.
I agree that Fatman and others actually considering 3 fighters this January is way too much, but you consider people thinking that Geno may likely be coming to the game as them setting their expectations up way too high, so I dunno.
But that doesn't say anything about when those characters are releasing, though. All it says, assuming it's not just a bug in the system, is that two more fighters are coming after 5.
I'm pretty sure that those videos were confirmed to be old commercials, though.
Not a very apt analogy, I gotta say. While I don't think 3 fighters are happening, as it sounds unlikely as ****, a 0.01% of something happening doesn't make it impossible.
Right here!
You mean this guy?
Very good list you made, MisterMike! I would personally like to see those characters, especially Exor, be Spirits on Geno's board.
Isn't this how the Starling contraversy started.
He always had a sword, he just doesn't like to use it too often because it ends most of his battles too quick for him to enjoy them
So he's not allowed to make theories, or theory-craft at all? I am sure the Starling thing was a different beast altogether.
Geno: “Forgive me master, but I must go all out... just this once.”
When those theories are prefaced by "my source said" expect backlash when their wrong.
Only a Sith deals in absolutes. >:O We must only speculate to be Jedi.
Fatmanonice
's theory now, would it? I think some people are underestimating how much information any source can tell others at once and how those words can be piled into a theory.Technically, only 2 of your 4 sources actually think it might be that controversial character you constantly hint at and are very bad at actually hiding. That's not necessarily "by all accounts". And when has "potential salt avalanches" ever stopped Nintendo anyway?
Geno coming down from Star Road to defeat Smithy like:
Base assumption following Terry's reveal: his Mii costumes would be the three third party fighting game costumes from Smash 4: Jacky, Heihachi, and Akira. This then suggests that the "leftover" Smash 4 DLC costumes are: Lloyd, Gil, EXE, X, Rathalos, and Monster Hunter. The strongest theme here is SWORDS, suggesting that 5 would potentially use a SWORD. The Fighter's Pass at that point had all been brand new additions from companies that hasn't gotten new characters in Ultimate yet. Capcom already had Ken so, naturally, that heavily suggests that 5 wouldn't be a Capcom rep. With this in mind, all that remains are Lloyd and Gil, two Namco SWORDSMEN, leading to the original hypothesis that 5 would also be a NAMCO SWORDSMEN.
Lloyd- Around the time of Terry's reveal, Lloyd was in a very good place. He had been heard in insider conversations since the previous fall and, along with that, Tales trademarks not only became public but supposedly Nintendo itself was starting to tease its own employees about an eventual Tales for Switch announcement. This strongly boosted my confidence in Lloyd being 5. Two months later and Sabi's source deconfirms a Tales rep. Well ****... Guess it's time to move onto...
Nightmare: A NAMCO SWORDSMAN with a HELMET and ARMOR. With the Power of Two theory, it suggested that 5's Smash 4 DLC costume pairing would be Rathalos and Monster Hunter, two costumes that bare a passing resemblance to Nightmare. Seems to make sense and also lines up with Nightmare in Smash/Soul Calibur for Switch rumors heard back in the summer. NoA ambassador friend then says in late November "No Capcom, no Namco." Well, double ****... Back to the drawing board...
Sol- SWORDSMAN from an UNREPRESENTED COMPANY. Lines up with Sol Badguy and Guilty Gear on Switch rumors during the summer. Mii costumes don't fit as well as Lloyd or Nightmare but oh well... Not super confident either way. One of my friends then points out to me "Hey Fatman, Guilty Gear for Switch was announced in late November!" Really? Triple ****... Now what... Hmm, Cacomallow, huh? .... OH!
Cacodemon belongs to DOOM but both Sabi and Verge said "no Doom Guy" and Sabi's source said "Cacodemon and Mallow don't relate to 5 anyways." Wilikers! Let's pretend Cacomallow is real because pretending is fun (at least that's what Sesame Street taught me). Doom belongs to Bethesda which is a Western company that's not yet represented in Smash. Hmmm... Hmmm... What, uh, has Bethesda had on the ol' Switch-a-Rooney? Well, we still have Lloyd, Gil, Rathalos, and Monster Hunter four FANTASY SWORDSMEN and three have ARMOR and HELMETS. This fits into the hypothesis at the very beginning.
Now, using the Power of Two theory, it once again suggests that 5's Smash 4 Mii costume pairing would be Rathalos and Monster Hunter, two FANTASY OPEN WORLD RPG SWORDSMEN with HELMETS and ARMOR. Seems to be, uh, indicative of a theme, yeah? Does Bethesda have anything like this? Probably not because I'm totally nutters but, to quote Saint MatPat, it's just a theory, a Game Theory! Speculation is fun, ain't it?
It doesn’t take rocket science to know that Elder Scrolls is anything BUT niche. And I’d argue the only fanbase that Dragonborn would cause a “diarrhea vomit reaction” to would be the Doom Slayer fanbase. Everyone else outside this forum would be thrilled about Elder Scrolls in Smash. So that strongly implies that you are backing someone else entirely.
Except the reality is that the opinions and rumors of my insider friends merely supplement my own speculation, like I just showed with Fighter 5. It's the equivalent of doing your homework, turning it into the teacher, and your teacher "yep, that's probably right; have a biscuit!"
Looks like Geno is going to have a new Kamehameha move if he gets in Smash Bros. Ultimate.
Indeed, a Geno Beam x10
Wynn and his hate for speculation.I agree that Fatman and others actually considering 3 fighters this January is way too much, but you consider people thinking that Geno may likely be coming to the game as them setting their expectations up way too high, so I dunno.
But that doesn't say anything about when those characters are releasing, though. All it says, assuming it's not just a bug in the system, is that two more fighters are coming after 5.
I'm pretty sure that those videos were confirmed to be old commercials, though.
Not a very apt analogy, I gotta say. While I don't think 3 fighters are happening, as it sounds unlikely as ****, a 0.01% of something happening doesn't make it impossible.
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Right here!
https://smashboards.com/threads/geno-♪-return-of-the-starsend-savior.446378/post-23744018
You mean this guy?
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You know, this taps into my weird dream of ArkSys someday making a Mario fighting game that goals full anime with a cast spanning the whole series.
That sounds like a really terrible teacher, tbh.
nessdeltarune00
Take it to private messages, particularly if this isn't going to be civil; coming into the thread (or any thread, for that matter) to stir up drama that is, at this point, months old in some cases helps nobody.
FMOI, if this is anything like that last time that got you banned before, let us please not resort to bringing up other threads, shall we?
Let's say that you full on admit that my speculation is right. Let's take a quick visit to another thread, shall we?
https://smashboards.com/threads/there-is-one-they-fear-dragonborn-shouts-them-down.450437/
Count the pages and posts. Now that's been established, let's go to another thread:
https://smashboards.com/threads/at-smashs-gate-the-doom-marine-doomguy-doom-slayer-thread.446546/
Count the pages and posts.
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