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^^This
If you spend most of your time rooting for Sora and not at all linking it back to Geno then that would at the end of the day I think it’s be fair to call that off-topic and I’d personally just question why not just spend your time in the thread of the character you actually want in. If you actually try to stay on-topic I don’t see why you shouldn’t post here though.
I Knew it I knew it. Baboom win. HE ALWAYS WIN.
At this point I just want fp5 to be fun to play. Doomguy is nice though if only cause it makes Geno look better.
Nice picture, the drama stopped so we're fine my friend
But when the discussion is centered around completely unrelated characters for pages at a time then it’s objectively off-topic. I don’t understand why this is a controversial point to bring up. If you’re going to be posting on a character specific support thread there should be genuine effort to keep posts focused on the specific character. I feel like I’m taking crazy pills.
How did you get a picture of
TooManyToastahs
!?! Stalkers! ALL OF YOU! 
well lucky you that I dont feel like I should say anything in the thread so your geno thread is safe mostly because I dont have anything to say regarding geno, I just like people watching
Please don't be off-topic by discussing Geno in the Geno thread. Thank you.
Thank you for sharing have a beautiful day
I may not be a part of this community, but I've kept an eye for awhile and you're easily the most wholesome, truly good person on this character thread. For Sabi to have committed the acts they have and you to still hold back takes a lot of integrity, and that's unsurprising coming from you. The community needs to look more towards people like you as figureheads.
As ready as I'll ever be. By the way, be sure to VOTE!
I still blame Discord.
Maybe it was like some sort of advanced as **** Power Rangers toy with "FIST-FIRING ACTION!"? Oh god, now I'm imagining Geno as a character from a Super Sentai TV show...
The reason I think that, if the CacoMallow post is real, that it means Geno and Doomguy as fighters is because of how ridiculously tone-deaf it'd be to do otherwise. Like, you know that people have wanted Geno as a fighter for years, but rather than including them as such you decided to just repackage an old Mii Costume and throw in a freebie? That makes little sense to me and I hightly doubt Sakurai is the kind of guy to settle given his impeccable track record so far. Man's got SquareEnix to outright push for their heroes as fighters, something they've never done before until now. If he can get that, Geno as a fighter is no sweat.
Doomguy has plenty to work with. I'd highly recommend you check out the Doomguy thread, they've got plenty of moveset ideas. Plus, it could use some more love.
Right, we should stall for as long as possible and use this as leverage to get Geno in Smash. If they don't get him in by next year, we'll hit 2000 pages, causing all the nukes in the world to launch all at once, destroying civilization as we know it!
If that's the case, I'll be popping off like no tomorrow.
Fatmanonice
has later said that people behind the scenes believe what happened to Paragon to be real and are therefore TERRIFIED of talking about Waluigi despite the fact that EVERYONE has heard about him. Also, why would Nintendo go to the trouble to C&D him in the first place? Probably not Luminary and Banjo because literally everyone and their mother was talking about both of them at that point. Could be the Undertale stuff, but he actually misinterpreted the information he had to begin with, so I doubt they would have C&D’d the guy because he got two characters right that everyone else was saying shortly before their reveal + he had some minor Undertale information right and bungled it up. No, Waluigi is the logical answer here, at least combined with everything else. That was a reveal they were planning for half a year later that Paragon knew about, which means they had to nip him in the bud early to send a message to other leakers. And it sounds like they got the picture.
wynn728
, but I think it’s happening. No memes, no bull. With all of this circumstantial evidence, insider talk, tons of third-party deconfirmations, Vergeben’s first-party backpedaling, and the increasing validity of Paragon’s leak, I genuinely put my full commitment into the belief that Waluigi really is our last Fighter’s Pass character unless further information comes out that makes me doubt this. Wah!
Uhhhh I know next to nothing about Cheers except for the theme song and some of the characters but my hand was forced:
Honestly, I don't want to be a figurehead. I don't want to be a pariah or whatever the heck for this community or ANYTHING anywhere NEAR Smash. It's a terrible place to be and I do not see why it's coveted. If people like me as a person or whatever, cool. That's nice to hear I've made any kind of positive impact. What am I, though? Well, what is a woman? Just a miserable little pile of secrets.
That gif where everything is on fire and someone brings in some pizzas
Elma screams "I really don't want to be here" energy.
Me being Norm is somehow fitting
Bad news again Huh? Oh boy seems like thing's never change. Oh well hopefully this is almost over.
At this point I'm not sure if I even want to trust Sabi and I'm a bit skeptical towards Vergeben. So I don't even know how to approach speculation until FP5 is revealed. The Cacomallow leak is still living so maybe Geno or Doom Slayer is FP5 afterall. Hopefully. If one of them comes with their respective costume in the leak, the other character is basically a lock. But yes, I'm excited for the Game Awards. I'm hoping Smash wins some awards.
I agree with this. It's unfair to Geno and unfair to the other characters as well.
You know what? this actually makes senseI genuinely think character #5 is Waluigi. As time goes on, it seems that more and more people are willing to speak to Paragon’s character, so I doubt he was lying about the C&D or “poking fun at Sabi” when he mentioned it, especially since
You know, we’ve been talking about timeline stuff in terms of Geno and how the Grinch leak may have bumped off his Mii costume from releasing alongside Hero so that he could potentially be post-pass DLC, and that’s all well and good, but let’s take a second to consider Waluigi’s timeline, shall we? Ultimate’s big official reveal was at E3 2018, and there were precious few deconfirmations at the time since barely any Assist Trophies were shown off. I’d argue the only two major ones were Bomberman and Waluigi. But even though I certainly saw a few Bomberman fans upset at his deconfirmation, NOTHING hit the internet harder than Waluigi being relegated to an Assist Trophy for the third game in a row. You were all there for it, so I don’t need to elaborate much at all, but everyone and their mother was making memes about it, there was so much public upset about it, Sakurai blocked a guy for pestering him about it too much and people were using that one guy as a way to blame the whole Waluigi fanbase for going too far... it was a real mess. Waluigi was the first big example of public upset over a deconfirmation. No way in hell no one noticed at Nintendo, especially since Sakurai literally had to block someone on Twitter over it.
Keep in mind all of this was happening mid-June 2018. Now knowing what we know about the Fighter’s Pass, it seems negotiations were still ongoing for it during the time, and perhaps reaching their conclusion since apparently all the DLC had been decided by about 5 months later, since Sakurai said shortly after the November 1st Smash Direct on his personal Twitter that all the DLC had already been decided so people shouldn’t campaign for anyone for the pass. This means that any public opinion from the Direct itself and the backlash from the Grinch leak could not be used to sway the outcome of the pass. But Waluigi’s public backlash was months ago; timeline-wise, he’s the perfect fit for the last DLC character of the Fighter’s Pass. And of course, it naturally makes PERFECT SENSE for Nintendo to choose him characters and for Sakurai, the man who constantly wants to push the envelope and make everyone happy, who had already put in Ridley and K. Rool in the base roster and who approved Banjo for DLC, to approve Waluigi as well. And wouldn’t that be an even better final thank-you character than Lloyd would have been as a last send-off to the game?
Call me crazy if you want
A point that I haven’t seen brought up very often in relation to cacomallow is the fact that just because you can mod something very similarly to something else doesn’t mean said thing is automatically fake. Maybe this just comes from the leak just looking very legit in terms of design and whatnot. But like if someone wanted they could have probably replicated the K. Rool mii hat in 4 if it was leaked or any of the mii costumes that have debuted in SSBU.
While I probably would not really welcomed more Mario reps in this game, I do say plant piranha wasn't a pleasant thing as this shows Sakurai prefers wtf to fanservice when they don't want to choose by significance.
Yeah I'm gonna trust you on this as you're a friend of mine so honestly what Sabi must've done must've been pretty terrible if unfairly discrediting Paragon and making people lose their jobs is the minimum you and Fatman could tell us.
Cease this pic.twitter.com/GUhEq5xaOe
— Jon Cartwright (@JonComms) December 8, 2019
Just to quickly comment on this since I have personally talked to Paragon on this topic... They never got an explanation for why they got the C&D. Yes, a lot of it wound up being true but there was false things too. For example, I talked to the source that originally told Paragon that they heard a rumor that Luminary was going to be revealed at the Smash tournament. It was definitely a grab bag of things. Basically what happened, according to Paragon, is that someone sent their personal info to Nintendo to frame them as a leaker despite only, ironically, doing what I do and speculating with insider rumors and info.I genuinely think character #5 is Waluigi. As time goes on, it seems that more and more people are willing to speak to Paragon’s character, so I doubt he was lying about the C&D or “poking fun at Sabi” when he mentioned it, especially since
You know, we’ve been talking about timeline stuff in terms of Geno and how the Grinch leak may have bumped off his Mii costume from releasing alongside Hero so that he could potentially be post-pass DLC, and that’s all well and good, but let’s take a second to consider Waluigi’s timeline, shall we? Ultimate’s big official reveal was at E3 2018, and there were precious few deconfirmations at the time since barely any Assist Trophies were shown off. I’d argue the only two major ones were Bomberman and Waluigi. But even though I certainly saw a few Bomberman fans upset at his deconfirmation, NOTHING hit the internet harder than Waluigi being relegated to an Assist Trophy for the third game in a row. You were all there for it, so I don’t need to elaborate much at all, but everyone and their mother was making memes about it, there was so much public upset about it, Sakurai blocked a guy for pestering him about it too much and people were using that one guy as a way to blame the whole Waluigi fanbase for going too far... it was a real mess. Waluigi was the first big example of public upset over a deconfirmation. No way in hell no one noticed at Nintendo, especially since Sakurai literally had to block someone on Twitter over it.
Keep in mind all of this was happening mid-June 2018. Now knowing what we know about the Fighter’s Pass, it seems negotiations were still ongoing for it during the time, and perhaps reaching their conclusion since apparently all the DLC had been decided by about 5 months later, since Sakurai said shortly after the November 1st Smash Direct on his personal Twitter that all the DLC had already been decided so people shouldn’t campaign for anyone for the pass. This means that any public opinion from the Direct itself and the backlash from the Grinch leak could not be used to sway the outcome of the pass. But Waluigi’s public backlash was months ago; timeline-wise, he’s the perfect fit for the last DLC character of the Fighter’s Pass. And of course, it naturally makes PERFECT SENSE for Nintendo to choose him characters and for Sakurai, the man who constantly wants to push the envelope and make everyone happy, who had already put in Ridley and K. Rool in the base roster and who approved Banjo for DLC, to approve Waluigi as well. And wouldn’t that be an even better final thank-you character than Lloyd would have been as a last send-off to the game?
Call me crazy if you want
I do have a music making program....THAT USE TO WORK!
Otherwise I would have by now.
