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Geno (♥♪!?): Return of the Starsend Savior

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Tomasagaz14

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I'm in a mood to bite, but I warn you, I'm a big fish.

I'm not going to get into whether or not SMRPG is "that big" or about how that doesn't matter when Banjo and Terry are in as DLC. Speaking of which, did Nintendo get much profit out of Sakurai straight faced telling people to play Banjo Kazooie on the damn Xbox?
Banjo is his own franchise, Smash wouldn't exist if it wasn't for SNK because i've read that KoF inspired Sakurai, those things are faaar bigger than one game from over 20 years.
 
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Dynamic Worlok

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So glad you've used 2 of your 12 posts here to tell us something we have definitely, definitely never, ever, ever even considered before. Wow. Your cunning insight sure is appreciated. We'll just have to give up because Nintendo only picks promotional picks like Banjo & Kazooie.

Seriously dude, go away.
All jokes aside, it's really not ok to tell someone to leave. It's a free board, and ridicule bad posts all you like. But let people post. If there's a legitimate issue, contact a mod or report the post
 

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All jokes aside, it's really not ok to tell someone to leave. It's a free board, and ridicule bad posts all you like. But let people post. If there's a legitimate issue, contact a mod or report the post
You want me to be nice to the dude who comes to a character support thread to crap on the character the thread is for ? Nah. I'm all good on that :). They know what they're doing. Saying "dude go away" isn't overly abusive and I stand by it when people want to present tired arguments for the 1,000th time.
 
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Dynamic Worlok

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If we're going to argue about side characters, let me remind everyone that not only isn't shiek an actual character, shiek is a disguise that got to be it's own character in smash

You want be to be nice to the dude who comes to a character support thread to crap on the character the thread is for ? Nah. I'm all good on that :). They know what they're doing. Saying "dude go away" isn't overly abusive and I stand by it when people want to present tired arguments for the 1,000th time.
Then report the post and don't give him the attention
 

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You want be to be nice to the dude who comes to a character support thread to crap on the character the thread is for ? Nah. I'm all good on that :). They know what they're doing. Saying "dude go away" isn't overly abusive and I stand by it when people want to present tired arguments for the 1,000th time.
What do i do then? Anti characters threads ars not allowed in this page, i should just shut up and not express my opinion over a character because people wants to keep this as a positive echo chamber?
 
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Wasn't there already a rule 63 version of geno that someone posted here?
Not sure. Sounds rather familiar, though I was more thinking of standard Geno. ..Although that raises the question of whether ♥♪!? has an identity of that sort, or if they're just using the doll's assumed male identity for convenience. I wonder if, had Paper Mario remained as SMRPG 2, could we have seen ♥♪!?'s actual self make an appearance as one of the stars in Star Haven?
 

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What do i do then? Anti characters threads ars not allowed, i should just shut up and not express my opinion over a character?
There is a general newcomer discussion thread.

“Where am I supposed to talk about how much I hate chess aside from the chess club?”
 

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What do i do then? Anti characters threads ars not allowed in this page, i should just shut up and not express my opinion over a character because people wants to keep this as a positive echo chamber?
Are these new and startling opinions that desperately need to be expressed to those that share the opposite viewpoint? You won't catch me expressing my misgivings about Steve in his own thread. You could always talk about it in the general thread, people there will probably agree with you, too.

If you've got reasons why geno won't be in, take my advice and limit it to the ones we haven't heard about twenty billion times already
 
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What do i do then? Anti characters threads ars not allowed in this page, i should just shut up and not express my opinion over a character because people wants to keep this as a positive echo chamber?
How about going to threads for characters you DO support and be a POSITIVE influence there rather than being a negative influence in a space where it's unecessary? Furthermore, why does that need to be spelled out for you so plainly? You so urgently had to express your opinion of "literal who" that you just couldn't help yourself?
 
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Banjo is his own franchise, Smash wouldn't exist if it wasn't for SNK because KoF inspired Sakurai, those things are faaar bigger than one game from over 20 years.
Banjo is a 5 game franchise, and it's very likely that people didn't even know two of those existed. Only one franchise represented in Smash has fewer titles, and it's a first party game. It's also a bit of a stretch to assume that if KoF hadn't existed, Sakurai would have never dusted some random in an arcade at a fighting game and been inspired to make a fighting game that didn't require hours of study to learn one character. I'm sure if SNK hadn't been pumping out KoF, Sakurai would have just gotten good at Street Fighter.

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And since like 40 posts happened while I was writing this one, I'd just like to say that I don't see a problem with people coming in with a different opinion. I hate an echo chamber. We all need our ideas challenged... But not by the same challenger over and over again. Can't get better by fighting Glass Joe again and again.
 
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So with everything that has happened recently, I can conclude that the sometimes, speculating isn't worth the frustration other people and I get from others that feel like they need to stomp all over other characters and actual people.

Geno is cool, and I really want Doomguy and/or Crash.

Rayman would be sick, too.
 

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How about going to threads for characters you DO support and be a POSITIVE influence there rather than being a negative influence in a space where it's unecessary? Furthermore, why does that need to be spelled out for you so plainly? You so urgently had to express your opinion of "literal who" that you just couldn't help yourself?
What? I should just be a nice guy and never say anything negative?
 

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What do i do then? Anti characters threads ars not allowed in this page, i should just shut up and not express my opinion over a character because people wants to keep this as a positive echo chamber?
*Goes to a character support thread and bashes on said character and wonders why he/she is getting called out on it*

Very baffling indeed.
 
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If Geno wore a dress, do you think he'd prefer something poofy and elaborate like Peach, or something a bit more flowy and elegant like Rosalina?
In my own opinion, given his existing penchant for a reasonably no frills cape, and Rosalina's sleek aesthetic (and similar celestial theme), I think Geno would go with flow/elegance
...but honestly, why not both? I'm sure he wouldn't mind either in the slightest as long as he could still be a badass while doing so
 

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When someones tries to give negative opinions in a thread that is full of people that are passionate about said character, it will almost never go well. Constructive and appropriate criticism and opinions should be the norm, not being overtly negative.
 

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Better question why the hate for Geno?
I see him as underserving of so much love, his fanbase is one of the worsts that i've ever seen, and i will never understand how he became loved given that he is just a side character from an old game, and he even was barely important in that game.
 

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What? I should just be a nice guy and never say anything negative?
The Newcomer Speculation thread might be more up your alley if you have some controversial opinions to share about Geno.

It's not a very wise idea to bash the character in a thread centered around his potential inclusion, so I'm not sure why you're surprised that people aren't taking very kindly to your words right now.
 

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In my own opinion, given his existing penchant for a reasonably no frills cape, and Rosalina's sleek aesthetic (and similar celestial theme), I think Geno would go with flow/elegance
...but honestly, why not both? I'm sure he wouldn't mind either in the slightest as long as he could still be a badass while doing so
Okay, so you see this?

Now, imagine merging that with the badass power of this.

You're welcome.
 

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The Newcomer Speculation thread might be more up your alley if you have some controversial opinions to share about Geno.

It's not a very wise idea to bash the character in a thread centered around his potential inclusion, so I'm not sure why you're surprised that people aren't taking very kindly to your words right now.
I'm not surprised, i fully expected something like this.
 

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In my own opinion, given his existing penchant for a reasonably no frills cape, and Rosalina's sleek aesthetic (and similar celestial theme), I think Geno would go with flow/elegance
...but honestly, why not both? I'm sure he wouldn't mind either in the slightest as long as he could still be a badass while doing so
I agree. ..It was a half-serious question, actually. I'm vaguely considering doodling something Geno-related in a minute.
 

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I see him as underserving of so much love, his fanbase is one of the worsts that i've ever seen, and i will never understand how he became loved given that he is just a side character from an old game, and he even was barely important in that game.
Most of these problems are just with his fans with the exception of the last point, which kinda doesn't work as he is a huge driving force for the plot. I mean, the Mario crew would have no clue what is going on without him.
 

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Okay so which one of you clowns wrote this:

https://venturebeat.com/2019/12/04/nintendo-doesnt-add-super-mario-rpg-to-switch-online-snes-games/

Super Nintendo
Star Fox 2 — The lost sequel to the Super Nintendo’s beloved polygonal shooter. The publisher first brought it back for the Super Nintendo Classic Edition. It is not Super Mario RPG.
Super Punch-Out — The sequel to Mike Tyson’s Punch-Out and one of the best game for Super Nintendo. It is not Super Mario RPG.
Kirby Super Star — One of Kirby’s best games. It is not Super Mario RPG.
Breath of Fire II — A role-playing adventure that is decidedly not Super Mario RPG.

NES
Crystalis — It’s Super Mario RPG! Oh, wait. No. I’m being told it’s not. But Crystalis is still a really good take on the action RPG.
Journey to Silius — A run-‘n’-gun shooter that isn’t Super Mario RPG.
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Jesus, this objectively isn't that funny but for some reason it hit the right amount of dry humor that makes me find it hilarious.
 

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SMRPG is not really that big, adding a character just for promote the rerelease of a 23 years old game in NSO is a horrible idea for a promo pick, as Nintendo wouldn't get much profit, and Geno is a literal who for anyone outside the Smash and Mario RPG fandoms, so he wouldn't fare well for casuals and mostly of fandoms, if anything Geno would fit more as base game character.
Allow me to say something, wouldn’t this reasoning apply to a bunch of characters people want?
Bandana Dee, Porky, etc. It’s not just Geno. There’s also NO rule that says anywhere that DLC has to promote something, and Geno wouldn’t be solely added just if SMRPG is added to NSO. What about his support for 15+ years from fans? Sakurai’s personal love for the character? Your post just doesn’t make sense to me.
 

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Jesus, this objectively isn't that funny but for some reason it hit the right amount of dry humor that makes me find it hilarious.
Those were my thoughts. Sitting here at my desk wondering who wrote this article specifically for me (and you, and you and you!)

I'm not surprised, i fully expected something like this.
Well well well, if it isn't the consequences of your own actions.
 
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Most of these problems are just with his fans with the exception of the last point, which kinda doesn't work as he is a huge driving force for the plot. I mean, the Mario crew would have no clue what is going on without him.
Actually, Frogfucius told the crew to collect the Stars a good while before Geno appeared, they would at least keep doing that even if they never meet Geno.
 

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Those were my thoughts. Sitting here at my desk wondering who wrote this article specifically for me (and you, and you and you!)
>Nintendo announces Mother 3 Remaster
>Nintendo announces Kid Icarus Uprising 2
>Nintendo announces Star Fox: Totally Not Dog**** Edition
>Nintendo announces Super Mario Galaxy 3

... Where the **** is Super Mario RPG 2, Nintendo!?!
 

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I see him as underserving of so much love, his fanbase is one of the worsts that i've ever seen, and i will never understand how he became loved given that he is just a side character from an old game, and he even was barely important in that game.
"Was barely important in that game" go play Super Mario RPG and try again. he's the whole reason why the game even has a happy ending in the first place, even if Mario and the others were able to find the star pieces and defeat Smithy they would never know what to do with them and the hopes/dreams of the people around the world would never come true because Geno was never there to repair star road
 

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I see him as underserving of so much love, his fanbase is one of the worsts that i've ever seen, and i will never understand how he became loved given that he is just a side character from an old game, and he even was barely important in that game.
Big mistake using that word, friend. You clearly do not have any creative criticism to this thread. As well, you have not played that game otherwise you would know the character is CRUCIAL to the plot of SMRPG.

That being said, welcome to the ignore button.

So long! Bear Well!

EDIT: Ignore button off...everyone has an opinion.
 
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Actually, Frogfucius told the crew to collect the Stars a good while before Geno appeared, they would at least keep doing that even if they never meet Geno.
Even so, the reason as to why would be lost without him. Who knows if it would have been a primary focus of the party if they didn't know what the stars did.
 

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Okay, so you see this?

Now, imagine merging that with the badass power of this.

You're welcome.
Not gonna lie, seeing your delectable princess dress Geno again has quietly awakened strange internal cogs of a mahou shoujo cross ojou-sama Geno and now I can't seem to get the idea out of my head now
He'd totally rock the masquerade look and be war fan buddies with Peach at the same time ~


I agree. ..It was a half-serious question, actually. I'm vaguely considering doodling something Geno-related in a minute.
Consider my interest piqued here. I'm kinda in an art slump of my own, and I've never actually tackled Geno before. Hmm... probably not at 4am when I need to wake in 6 hours though
 

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I see him as underserving of so much love, his fanbase is one of the worsts that i've ever seen, and i will never understand how he became loved given that he is just a side character from an old game, and he even was barely important in that game.
Well as for the fanbase part, every fanbase has a seedy element, but there is always a bigger part to a fanbase that is good than toxic. I would suggest getting to know fans outside of the toxic element. Besides I wouldn't recommend letting fandoms ruining things for you anyways as if you go looking for such things you'll wind up hating every character out there. Undeserving is rather subjective, as plenty of undeserving characters are already in Smash, but SMRPG has left an impact on Nintendo. Because of that game we got the amazing Paper Mario and Mario and Luigi, and what's more deserving than Nintendo history? As for not understanding the love, what's to understand? People played his game and liked him. Just like people played Zelda and fell in love with Link, or played Metroid and fell in love with Ridley. The character left an impact on them and they want the chance to play as the character again. Honestly friend instead of irrational hate try to play the game for yourself and see if you find anything of substance. If not no harm done, but you may grow to love the character for yourself.
At the end of the day I'm not really a Geno fan myself, I hang out here for the speculation, and because I love the fans getting characters they've been fighting for, but I don't think it's that hard to find reasons people want their character in if you look. Hate is a waste of time friend, I never recommend it.
 
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