Geno (♥♪!?): Return of the Starsend Savior

[Icewolff92]

lol, don't worry about Jon's tweet, guys. He's being facetious and not malicious in any way. He's also a big Geno supporter (along with Andre), and he's insanely optimistic about Geno making it in. He's just goofing around, even if it might not initially seem so.

Exactly, He loves to spue otter nonsense from time to time. He pushes for a Tetris block in smash ironically for heck sake

 

[Dynamic Worlok]

lol, don't worry about Jon's tweet, guys. He's being facetious and not malicious in any way. He's also a big Geno supporter (along with Andre), and he's insanely optimistic about Geno making it in. He's just goofing around, even if it might not initially seem so.

in all honesty, wouldn't bother me too much either way.

 

[MondoMega]

He loves to spue otter nonsense from time to time.

heh.

 

[MissingGlitch]

lol, don't worry about Jon's tweet, guys. He's being facetious and not malicious in any way. He's also a big Geno supporter (along with Andre), and he's insanely optimistic about Geno making it in. He's just goofing around, even if it might not initially seem so.

So...it's not Puyo Puyo time?

 

[Deleted member]

http://xusooot34wmwpyvd.onion.ws/v/thread/456634871/#456651537

here you go

Well that sure is... something!

You know, out of all of the fighters pass so far, Banjo is the only characters whose game I've played. Never touched Dragon Quest, barely played any of Persona 4 much less any of the other games, and I'm not a big traditional fighter fan... So in this case, at least the final character would be someone from a game I've not only played, but really admire. That said... I can't begin to imagine a moveset that would make either of t hem stand apart from other fighters or even fun to play. Dark Souls is a patience and endurance test if ever there has been one, and that's the reason so many people consider it so hard. In such a fast paced game, it's hard to imagine those qualities being t he defining feature of the character. Gaining humanity in some way? Estus flasks? Picking a starting class when you pick the character?

 

[T2by4]

http://xusooot34wmwpyvd.onion.ws/v/thread/456634871/#456651537

here you go

I would not at all be upset with that choice. Pretty based ngl.

 

[Kewl0210]

That 4chan thread is interesting but the thing is there's just been so many of these that some may end up having guessed right. (People have talked before about people guessing the first 4 plus Ryu, the first 3 plus 2 random other guys, etc.)
People were talking about various picks like Terry and Doomguy in the thread regardless.

Dark Souls is a pretty iconic series at this point, and it would be *different* from everyone else. It's not a turn based RPG, fighting game, or platformer. And Bandai Namco owns it so they could definitely get the rights. That may be what Fatmanonice was talking about as "low hanging fruit". And as like a "thank you" to the company making the game. But again, you can't be sure here.

Also it doesn't look like we know if that Mii Costume leak is real or not at all.

 

[Latyon]

Dark Souls is not as influential as people seem to think. I'd be shocked as hell if Chosen Undead or Solaire become DLC.

Not opposed, but very shocked.

 

[Deleted member]

I would prefer Dark Souls over Tales. Artious or Solarie for Smash baby! I think Dark Souls is considered one of the most influential games this generation.

 

[Axelocke]

I would prefer Dark Souls over Tales. Artious or Solarie for Smash baby! I think Dark Souls is considered one of the most influential games this generation.

Wait, during the cameo portion of Sakurai's Banjo & Kazooie presentation, he referred to the characters as "poor souls"!

It all makes sense now.

 

[nessdeltarune00]

A Dark Souls rep would be way more exciting than a Tales rep imo.

 

[owjies]

Based on the theories discussed over that last day or so, Dark Souls doesn't seem that surprising of a choice. Sakurai actually discussed Dark Souls at length with Famitsu back in 2011:

Spoiler: Sakurai on Dark Souls

I played Dark Souls. The game had some network issues right after it was released, so I started it up in offline mode. It’s a difficult game, where carelessness will result in a swift death. The consequences for mistakes are enormous, so you have to be extremely wary of ambushes or combat in cramped quarters, and exercise extreme caution. In this way, every bend in the road becomes significant. What if there’s an unbeatable enemy lurking just ahead? Should I try to move silently? Do I have enough health? Are there enemies on my sides? Behind me? Things like that.

This high level of difficulty is built on a set of well-constructed rules. There are several, but here’s one example. In this game there are important points called bonfires, where you can restore your health. But when you use a bonfire, enemies and their positions are reset. Basically, the paths from bonfire to boss, or from bonfire to bonfire, are the “units” of this game. You have to keep that in mind when coming up with a strategy.

This is where the “Estus” recovery system becomes important. Resting at a bonfire gives you 5 sips (this gets extended to 10 as you progress through the game) of your Estus Flask, which you can use like a bento lunch along your journey. If you’re nervous about how many sips you have left, you have to decide between going back to the bonfire or pressing onward, so from a strategic perspective it’s a very important item. Between the bonfires and my Estus Flask, I had been making pretty good progress without dying unexpectedly. But then, I ran into a serious problem.

I had a really important-sounding item called a “Fire Keeper Soul”. The description reads, “Can strengthen your recovery.” I was having trouble defeating this butterfly boss, so I was looking for any sort of helpful item to give me an edge. Your recovery items can be the difference between life and death, so I decided to use it.

…But, it didn’t really have the desired effect. My humanity counter increased, but aside from that, nothing…

Then, after going back to the starting area, I realized that this “Fire Keeper Soul” item can be given to a character in that specific area to permanently boost your recovery. However, because of auto-saving, I couldn’t undo my mistake. I missed out on an extremely valuable opportunity.

This waste of a precious item had a tremendous effect on my play. From a mechanics standpoint, the recovery system influences everything you do, so every time I stepped forth, every time I got in a pinch, I kept thinking, “If I hadn’t made that error back then…”

As a result, that pressure got the better of me, and I decided to restart the game from the beginning. I was busy with work, so this was especially painful! But, the more I got into the unique qualities of this game, the more I became unable to continue playing on that save file.

Was my mistake so terrible that I had to go that far?

That’s what I thought at the time. However, this kind of thing happens surprisingly frequently in video games, particularly in RPG-style games. If you don’t know something, you miss out on an important item or an event, and you get trapped in this situation where you can’t go back and undo your mistake.

Personally, I avoid walkthrough sites and articles as much as possible so that when I cut the ribbon and see things for the first time, I get to fully enjoy a world that so many people have worked to create. But, that has a negative effect. Time and time again, situations arise where knowing about things from the beginning is a clear advantage. However, not being able to go back also creates interesting moments much of the time too. In this game, if I hadn’t gone in blind, it definitely wouldn’t have been as enjoyable.

Playing this game, the nagging sensation I felt — kind of like someone pulling the hair on the back of my head — was pretty refreshing. It really reaffirmed my feelings that games can bring forth emotions other forms of entertainment can’t, and next time I resume playing, I’ll keep at it.

Source: https://www.sourcegaming.info/2016/03/24/it-cant-be-undone-sakurais-famitsu-column-vol-385/

 

[Fatmanonice]

So we are all in agreement that we don’t know who FP5 is for certain?



And was this supposed to be a hint or was he just stating what was happening?

No, I think Arle is kind of an inside joke because I've noticed other Nintendo YouTubers use her too like PapaGenos. I think the wait is just getting to people, especially now that Sabi's list of "not happening for #5" has reached half a dozen and the most elaborate Smash (probable) hoax was only a week ago and most people have already moved on.

 

[Deleted member]

I’m crossing my fingers for Dark Souls in Smash!

 

[Vector Victor]

'We are pleased to announce that character 5 is here and coming with 6,000 songs! That's more songs than all of character 5's series put together, whatever series that is! We added original songs, remixes, original remixes, combined half new and half old songs into a super song retro mixes, 1920's contemporary jazz versions, versions that go boo boo be bop. Hell, we even invented songs that have nothing to do with that series!

The owners of this series were quite happy. They thought the deal was fair and square. And as a bonus, we are uploading every song twice onto the Cloud. We don't have the file storage amount, but we think the cloud can hold more than 2 songs. But of course it can! In fact, if the cloud could only hold 2 songs, that would be quite embarrassing. '

 

[Ovaltine]

'We are pleased to announce that character 5 is here and coming with 6,000 songs! That's more songs than all of character 5's series put together, whatever series that is! We added original songs, remixes, original remixes, combined half new and half old songs into a super song retro mixes, 1920's contemporary jazz versions, versions that go boo boo be bop. Hell, we even invented songs that have nothing to do with that series!

The owners of this series were quite happy. They thought the deal was fair and square. And as a bonus, we are uploading every song twice onto the Cloud. We don't have the file storage amount, but we think the cloud can hold more than 2 songs. But of course it can! In fact, if the cloud could only hold 2 songs, that would be quite embarrassing. '

I swear to god your posts are always the best

 

[nessdeltarune00]

Since alot of discussions about 5th character is happening in this thread, i will post this here too

http://boards.4channel.org/v/thread/484867694

It's Probably just a really good prediction, we've already had scenraios like this happen on on twitter for example, but it's something to keep in mind

As based as this would be, it probably is just a prediction, the OP says to post your top favorite picks to get rated by everyone. Not to mention the numerous instances of accurate predictions we have seen on Twitter.

And if he was trying to leak, wouldn’t he have likely created a entirely new thread? Leakers on 4chan love the attention, I simply can’t imagine that he wouldn’t create a new thread to showcase his “leak”.

 

[helloiamhere]

http://xusooot34wmwpyvd.onion.ws/v/thread/456634871/#456651537

here you go

4chan text 'leaks' is infinite monkeys, infinite typewriters. That said Dark Souls is now one of my most wanted things in Smash so...

 

[OptimisticStrifer]

Has Dark Souls been making the insiders circle by chance, Mr Fatman?

 

[Vector Victor]

I swear to god your posts are always the best

As gratitude for this comment, I will tell you that it is quite correct.

 

[waterhasataste]

Now thinking about it, Dark Souls would definitely be a Bamco pick I can see happening. It's pretty left field, similar to that of Joker and Terry. If they do want to announce fighter 5 at the Game Awards, a Dark Souls character would be a good fit

 

[xpnc]

Dark Souls wouldn't shock me at all. It's Namco, I'm pretty sure Sakurai likes it, it had a recent release on Switch, it's popular in Japan, and barely anyone wants a character from it in Smash

Ticks all the boxes!

 

[6eyondthegrave]

Has anyone posted this? This is gold
https://youtu.be/o-TRhjTkr_A

 

[Fatmanonice]

4chan text 'leaks' is infinite monkeys, infinite typewriters. That said Dark Souls is now one of my most wanted things in Smash so...

THANK YOU someone said it...

 

[OptimisticStrifer]

Ultimate will finally be the Dark Souls of fighting games.

 

[Rohanx17]

At this point if the theory of 6 is to be believed as fatman seems to support it then on top of who we know already heihachi, Lloyd, and all of capcom are out for #5. At this point I'm thinking it's either a bamco character or some crazy left-field pick we never considered like layton.
operating under these assumptions from bamco we already have
pacman already in
tekken(heihatchi) out
tales(Lloyd) out
xenosaga(KOS-MOS) out

Tbh that really doesn't leave much we still have dark souls, soulcalibur, and I guess klonoa but I don't feel to strongly for any one of them. Honestly I feel more confident in season 2 picks than I do 5 this is just sad. I wish Ryu hadn't gotten blown out so quickly because he would fit in so well for #5 based on what we already know.

 

[wynn728]

Are we really thinking that a Dark Souls character is potential the fifth character? That's hilarious to me since I was confident in Google Theory before Terry.
First we had Ryu Hayabusa being the front liner, then Doomguy, now Dark Souls. We're hitting the three Google Theory characters... so I give this around 2 or 3 days until insiders say Dark Souls ain't happening.

 

[Organization XIII]

At this point if the theory of 6 is to be believed as fatman seems to support it then on top of who we know already heihachi, Lloyd, and all of capcom are out for #5. .

What is the theory of 6?

 

[MondoMega]

Tbh that really doesn't leave much we still have dark souls, soulcalibur, and I guess klonoa but I don't feel to strongly for any one of them.

I'm personally rooting for The Prince of All Cosmos from Katamari (unless you believe Pac-Man's Namco Roulette taunt rules them out; but in that case Heihachi is also out permanently); wins in the music department at least.

 

[nessdeltarune00]

Are we really thinking that a Dark Souls character is potential the fifth character? That's hilarious to me since I was confident in Google Theory before Terry.
First we had Ryu Hayabusa being the front liner, then Doomguy, now Dark Souls. We're hitting the three Google Theory characters... so I give this around 2 or 3 days until insiders say Dark Souls ain't happening.

I’ve speculated for months on end that a Dark Souls rep is the top pick everyone is sleeping on

However, it seems Fatmanonice doesn’t buy the leak. As he paraphrased someone else “4chan has infinite typewriters, infinite monkeys”

 

[MisterMike]

Are we really thinking that a Dark Souls character is potential the fifth character? That's hilarious to me since I was confident in Google Theory before Terry.
First we had Ryu Hayabusa being the front liner, then Doomguy, now Dark Souls. We're hitting the three Google Theory characters... so I give this around 2 or 3 days until insiders say Dark Souls ain't happening.

I'll give 'em 11 minutes.

 

[Fatmanonice]

What is the theory of 6?

More or less the idea that when the Fighter Pass was first drafted, the idea was to have 6 Mii costumes with every character. The theory theorizes that Joker stayed the same, Geno and Chocobo were originally going to be with Hero, Banjo got shifted some, and Terry would have had Heihachi. The idea is that all the Smash 4 costumes would have naturally come back but changes have been made, potentially signaling clues for future DLC.

 

[Dynamic Worlok]

More or less the idea that when the Fighter Pass was first drafted, the idea was to have 6 Mii costumes with every character. The theory theorizes that Joker stayed the same, Geno and Chocobo were originally going to be with Hero, Banjo got shifted some, and Terry would have had Heihachi. The idea is that all the Smash 4 costumes would have naturally come back but changes have been made, potentially signaling clues for future DLC.

If that holds true, it seems proof positive that geno is on the way. Though I won't get ahead of myself just yet. Still, exciting stuff.

 

[OptimisticStrifer]

Lemme get this straight, Lloyd and Heihachi are out of the running as well?

 

[Glitch-EGamer]

Lemme get this straight, Lloyd and Heihachi are out of the running as well?

Where'd you get that from?

Also, technically speaking, Dark Souls would be a Bamco rep, right?

 

[nessdeltarune00]

At this point if the theory of 6 is to be believed as fatman seems to support it then on top of who we know already heihachi, Lloyd, and all of capcom are out for #5. At this point I'm thinking it's either a bamco character or some crazy left-field pick we never considered like layton.
operating under these assumptions from bamco we already have
pacman already in
tekken(heihatchi) out
tales(Lloyd) out
xenosaga(KOS-MOS) out

Tbh that really doesn't leave much we still have dark souls, soulcalibur, and I guess klonoa but I don't feel to strongly for any one of them. Honestly I feel more confident in season 2 picks than I do 5 this is just sad. I wish Ryu hadn't gotten blown out so quickly because he would fit in so well for #5 based on what we already know.

>Crazy out of left field pick we never considered like Layton

https://i.reddit.com/r/danganronpa/...iro_sakurai_the_creator_of_smash_bros_sent_a/

I apologize if I’ve pushed this character way too much, as his support thread isn’t very active. (I know I could just go on general, but this thread goes more in depth about speculation, which I like more) However, if Sakurai pulls the unthinkable, I will quit Smash speculation for good.

Because for me, there isn’t another character that would top the absolute hype and excitement that character would bring me.

 

[OptimisticStrifer]

Where'd you get that from?

Also, technically speaking, Dark Souls would be a Bamco rep, right?

From Rohanx

 

[NintenZ]

wait a gosh diddly darn second

>existing assets

we counting characters who appear on stages or in final smashes?

Viridi... Pauline... FIORA?!

prob not but lemme dream (also paging NintenZ )

If we're talking about reusing assets then Fiora's chances will have basically skyrocketed through the roof considering she's relevant and has numerous assets already finished for her.

(PLEASE BE TRUE OH MY GOD I'M HYPERVENTILATING OVER THIS)

 

[Vector Victor]

I'm surprised they didn't do more with echoes, particularly as there are many easy ones to do.

 

[Deleted member]

Besides a Smash announcement hope The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild Sequel gets something atTGA. May not be the biggest Legend of Zelda fan but Breath of the wild was a fantastic, breathtaking, and great open world game and the sequel will be great so hopefully we see that as well though don't know.

Also umm wish we had another Zelda character as upcoming DLC! Even Bokooblin would do. Though I doubt it still excited for whoever fighter #5 is.