Geno (♥♪!?): Return of the Starsend Savior

[Dynamic Worlok]

Earlier he said he was unable to say any names other than Crash, Ryu, and Geno, but there are 7 being heavily talked about, those 3 + 4 more

The remaining four are all viewtiful Joe

 

[NintendoKnight]

Fatmanonice
I know youre unable to tell us what the starling is, but is it still relevant to speculation and still hasnt come to pass? Thanks.

Didn't he say before his hiatus that the starling had nothing to do with Geno/Smash?

Tell me if I'm remembering wrong, but I recall him saying something along those lines.

 

[Rie Sonomura]

I'm gonna guess Reimu isn't part of the "Mystery 4"? Cause this tweet surfaced:

大乱闘スマッシュブラザーズかよってくらい有名な音楽サークルさん達が一堂に会してるこの商業企画に関われたの本当に嬉しいし、こんな機会今後もう二度とないと断言できるッ(ｼｺﾙｽｷｰ)

— りひと🔰 (@re_rihito) October 21, 2019

it literally has the Katakana for Smash Bros. (スマッシュブラザーズ) in it

 

[Nicnac]

Didn't he say before his hiatus that the starling had nothing to do with Geno/Smash?

Tell me if I'm remembering wrong, but I recall him saying something along those lines.

I think it was that it was unrelated to King of Fighters.

 

[MisterMike]

Didn't he say before his hiatus that the starling had nothing to do with Geno/Smash?

Tell me if I'm remembering wrong, but I recall him saying something along those lines.

He never confirmed what the Starling was a hint towards, only that it wasn't Terry.

 

[OffBi]

Is Rayman part of the 4 mystery boys?

 

[SkeffVEVO]

http://boards.4channel.org/v/thread/482382627
It would seem that the reimu music in smash leak is fake

Called it.

 

[EarlTamm]

I'm gonna guess Reimu isn't part of the "Mystery 4"? Cause this tweet surfaced:

大乱闘スマッシュブラザーズかよってくらい有名な音楽サークルさん達が一堂に会してるこの商業企画に関われたの本当に嬉しいし、こんな機会今後もう二度とないと断言できるッ(ｼｺﾙｽｷｰ)

— りひと🔰 (@re_rihito) October 21, 2019

it literally has the Katakana for Smash Bros. (スマッシュブラザーズ) in it

The Touhou community seems to think that this is just someone being rather sarcastic about the topic, as namedropping Smash Bros is a move you don't want to pull.

 

[Fatmanonice]

Fatmanonice if you can't tell us that's fine, but you mentioned that there are a few names squeaking around in regards to leakers. How many are frequently talked about in the speculation scene?

This I can answer. Aside from Crash, Geno, and Ryu, there's like 4 or 5 others that have come up with enough frequency that I feel like they were either seriously considered at one point or are going to come eventually. This is why I shot down Reimu because, like I said yesterday, nobody noteworthy has seriously talked about the character and that one guy was an island.

 

[NintendoKnight]

I think it was that it was unrelated to King of Fighters.

He never confirmed what the Starling was a hint towards, only that it wasn't Terry.

Thank you two for the clarification. I do recall seeing that as well.

I'm gonna guess Reimu isn't part of the "Mystery 4"? Cause this tweet surfaced:

大乱闘スマッシュブラザーズかよってくらい有名な音楽サークルさん達が一堂に会してるこの商業企画に関われたの本当に嬉しいし、こんな機会今後もう二度とないと断言できるッ(ｼｺﾙｽｷｰ)

— りひと🔰 (@re_rihito) October 21, 2019

it literally has the Katakana for Smash Bros. (スマッシュブラザーズ) in it

So uh, a quick run through of Google Translate shows this as "I'm really happy to be involved in this commercial project where the famous music circles are gathered together because of the Super Smash Bros. I can say that this will never happen again (Sciolsky)"

 

[Deleted member]

Is Rayman part of the 4 mystery boys?

No it's Isaac obviously.

Actually it probably isn't but god I would love a classic first party character like Isaac, Waluigi, Dixie or Bandanna Dee to get in as DLC.

 

[xpnc]

I'm gonna guess Reimu isn't part of the "Mystery 4"? Cause this tweet surfaced:

大乱闘スマッシュブラザーズかよってくらい有名な音楽サークルさん達が一堂に会してるこの商業企画に関われたの本当に嬉しいし、こんな機会今後もう二度とないと断言できるッ(ｼｺﾙｽｷｰ)

— りひと🔰 (@re_rihito) October 21, 2019

it literally has the Katakana for Smash Bros. (スマッシュブラザーズ) in it

A Ayumi Tachibana in the Reimu thread said this:

He is talking about Cannonball. He's just saying, "looking at all the names of doujin music circles involved, it's like Smash Bros." and expressing his happiness.

 

[Rie Sonomura]

A Ayumi Tachibana in the Reimu thread said this:

I was just about to post that. Gonna guess Cannonball is some sort of collaborative Touhou game project

 

[wynn728]

wynn728 @Serenade01

If this was a troll, why not just say Geno is a fighter? Why include BOTH Mallow and Smithy as Mii Suits? Wouldn’t just Mallow suffice?

It all had to do with making it believable and having your mind fill in the blanks. It's entirely possible that both Mallow & Smithy are Mii Costumes, but it's also possible that Geno appears along side them so you get Brawler (Mallow), Sword (Smithy), and Gunner (Geno) Costumes. So that troll leaker probably saw those three and instead of mentioning the Geno part to PapaGenos they left it out, because they knew that would lead people to thinking Geno is actually playable only for the costume to come back.

Ever since the news came out of those two costumes made many of the users here fully believe that Geno is in. If their goal was to troll us into thinking it happening then mission accomplish. People bought it and trying to dismiss the other possibility. We have trolls out there who go into a ridiculous length to fool people (such as Rayman & Grinch leak), leaving out one part of legit info to fool people is less work when compare to that.

It's entirely possible that Geno might not be a Mii Costume and gets in on the second wave with the other two Mii Costumes, but we shouldn't believe that. We need to skeptical, and with context of what this leaker is like we need to consider the possibility that they're completely trolling us. If Geno is actually gets in then that's great, but that might not be the case here.

 

[JarBear]

He never confirmed what the Starling was a hint towards, only that it wasn't Terry.

Not true. Specifically said it's not King of Fighters. Of course I hope the Starling has to do with Geno, but I am thinking it is/was for Terry (AKA Star on his Jacket.) It's a sly way of not confirming or denying it's Terry by specifically using the game Terry was original from but was replaced by Fatal Fury.

 

[StarLight42]

Fatman probably can’t comment on this, but i’m getting a personal feeling that Steve might be one of the characters being discussed, because he surprisngly didnt even get a Mii costume despite being talked about by so many leakers

 

[Deleted member]

Fatman probably can’t comment on this, but i’m getting a personal feeling that Steve might be one of the characters being discussed, because he surprisngly didnt even get a Mii costume despite being talked about by so many leakers

Hey if that's the case I personally wouldn't mind Steve at all as the only reason I didn't want Steve is cause I would've wanted Banjo first though since he's now in I'm completely open to Steve getting in as well.

He's from the best selling video game ever and has a lot of historical value so sure bring in the dude even if Minecraft animations might be stiff I'm sure Sakurai can figure a way around it.

 

[JarBear]

Kinda going back about the Mallow and Smithy thing, the screen shot shows the listing as Mallow/Smithy ... doesn't that mean it's just one of those? When you put X/Y, it doesn't mean X and Y, but it's X or Y.

 

[StarLight42]

Hey if that's the case I personally wouldn't mind Steve at all as the only reason I didn't want Steve is cause I would've wanted Banjo first though since he's now in I'm completely open to Steve getting in as well.

He's from the best selling video game ever and has a lot of historical value so sure bring in the dude even if Minecraft animations might be stiff I'm sure Sakurai can figure a way around it.

Here’s what i’m imagining happened

Steve was prominent in the leak scene, people thought Banjo wasnt going to come

At the same time, Banjo rumors came from
more reliable sources, so people assumed Steve to be leakbait.

Then of course, when Banjo was announced, people thought Steve had no chance.

And then now, we have more fighters coming and there is no Minecraft stage, Mii costume, etc. Despite being currently the best selling game ever made.

Seems fishy to me, not gonna lie.

 

[Nazyrus]

http://boards.4channel.org/v/thread/482382627
It would seem that the reimu music in smash leak is fake

welp so much for that… I knew it was too convenient to be good from the start, plus the amount of music was indeed way off the charts in comparison to current dlcs.

 

[Nicnac]

This I can answer. Aside from Crash, Geno, and Ryu, there's like 4 or 5 others that have come up with enough frequency that I feel like they were either seriously considered at one point or are going to come eventually. This is why I shot down Reimu because, like I said yesterday, nobody noteworthy has seriously talked about the character and that one guy was an island.

You said there are (minimum) 4 post-pass slots. Is it feasible for all 7 of the non-Hayabusa slots to be added?

 

[D0ct0r]

That thing about having Mallow (Brawler), Smithy (Swordsman), and Geno (Gunner) makes a lot of sense and it sadly feels like how it might end up playing out in the future.

The good timeline is that we get Geno as a fighter and also the Mallow and Smithy costumes.

 

[waterhasataste]

Fatman probably can’t comment on this, but i’m getting a personal feeling that Steve might be one of the characters being discussed, because he surprisngly didnt even get a Mii costume despite being talked about by so many leakers

I definitely think more Microsoft characters are on the table. Don't know if they've been mentioned, but I wouldn't be surprised if they are being talked about. The extremely positive response to Banjo in Smash makes me believe Microsoft is willing to double dip. Steve and Master Chief are pretty big icons I can see happening

 

[Ovaltine]

Yes I do! Here you go!

https://twitter.com/partners_intime/status/1033031247969234946

Incredible content right there.

He's so happy!

 

[SSGuy]

That thing about having Mallow (Brawler), Smithy (Swordsman), and Geno (Gunner) makes a lot of sense and it sadly feels like how it might end up playing out in the future.

The good timeline is that we get Geno as a fighter and also the Mallow and Smithy costumes.

Mallow as a Brawler and Smithy as a Swordfighter with Exor Sword. Geno as Gunner returning. That way all three Miis are represented with Super Mario RPG

 

[Fatmanonice]

You said there are (minimum) 4 post-pass slots. Is it feasible for all 7 of the non-Hayabusa slots to be added?

Not definite but 4 seems to be the safest bet for now because it follows a lot of DLC patterns of Nintendo of supporting their bigger games for 2 years or more. As for EVERYONE making it, I kind of doubt it. It would be unbelievably lucky and practically a fever dream that would likely carry on for another two years. My current guess is that post pass will be 4 or 5 and then Sakurai will call it quits.

 

[StormC]

4-5 is about what I expected for post-Pass DLC. Getting all the WOL slots filled up felt a bit pipe dreamish, unless they went crazy with Echo Fighters.

Think Geno will end up being one of those 4-5 slots.

 

[OffBi]

4-5 is about what I expected for post-Pass DLC. Getting all the WOL slots filled up felt a bit pipe dreamish, unless they went crazy with Echo Fighters.

Think Geno will end up being one of those 4-5 slots.

Ah yes, Geno, the echo fighter of Megaman

 

[Deleted member]

Ah yes, Geno, the echo fighter of Megaman

You mean Geno the echo fighter of Mii Gunner?

 

[Vector Victor]

Stuff out in the open. It's kind of ironic to recognize that a lot of the Geno stuff has gotten out and it's not even my fault. And, again, that's another thing. It's just been a constant stream of backroom talk since, like, last September that has bit by bit been made public by different people so it highlights that this info is coming from a variety of channels and isn't secretly me with a rusty typewriter kek'ing into the night air as I spread unabashed lies (according to some accounts I've read about me).

So you ARE Sakurai! I knew it!

Anyway, can you make my list of favorite characters playable? There's only 500 on it. K thanks.

 

[KCCHIEFS27]

Not definite but 4 seems to be the safest bet for now because it follows a lot of DLC patterns of Nintendo of supporting their bigger games for 2 years or more. As for EVERYONE making it, I kind of doubt it. It would be unbelievably lucky and practically a fever dream that would likely carry on for another two years. My current guess is that post pass will be 4 or 5 and then Sakurai will call it quits.

Has there been any talk about what content would come with the “additional fighters” post pass?

Originally I imagined these additional characters would be released alone (without accompanying stages or mii costumes, but probably some music), but with this mii costume leak surfacing, it makes me reconsider.

There seem to be so many options if that leak is indeed correct. Fighter 5 probably isn’t Geno because all signs point towards Ryu. I wonder if it is possible that Geno is announced with or shortly after Ryu to kick off the additional guys and so they drop the SE mii costumes with Ryu. Or I was just assuming wrong and they’re still going to be making mii costumes even after the Fighter Pass. My head is spinning with all these puzzle pieces on the table

 

[Fatmanonice]

Also, something to consider, just because people aren't talking about certain characters doesn't mean they won't get in. Joker and Terry are both prime examples of this. Terry would have been a total surprise if Nintendo hadn't done goofed. Nintendo slipped, Sabi fact checked with her circle, and, no joke, like 8 of her contacts got back with her within a day to say that it was all but confirmed to be Terry. That's also why Geno, Ryu, and Crash are kind of significant: they're the ones that have more than just talk at the moment. Yes, there's names floating around and in the mouths of other people but so did Steve and we all know how that turned out.

 

[Rikarte]

You mean Geno the echo fighter of Mii Gunner?

You mean Geno, the echo fighter of Sans?

 

[Deleted member]

That thing about having Mallow (Brawler), Smithy (Swordsman), and Geno (Gunner) makes a lot of sense and it sadly feels like how it might end up playing out in the future.

The good timeline is that we get Geno as a fighter and also the Mallow and Smithy costumes.

absolutely do not bring that evil around here.

I've been thinking that, provided the leaker isn't full of it on Mallow/Smithy, maybe he lumped them together because they're not entire costumes, but just a hat. They're both pretty hard characters to nail down as a particular type of Mii.

 

[riggsbass]

Hey guys... here's a positive affirmation: Geno will be in Smash Ultimate.

 

[GenoToto]

You mean Geno, the echo fighter of Sans?

Now, hold on a chotto matte, I thought Sans was an Echo of Ness.

 

[StarLight42]

Also, something to consider, just because people aren't talking about certain characters doesn't mean they won't get in. Joker and Terry are both prime examples of this. Terry would have been a total surprise if Nintendo hadn't done goofed. Nintendo slipped, Sabi fact checked with her circle, and, no joke, like 8 of her contacts got back with her within a day to say that it was all but confirmed to be Terry. That's also why Geno, Ryu, and Crash are kind of significant: they're the ones that have more than just talk at the moment. Yes, there's names floating around and in the mouths of other people but so did Steve and we all know how that turned out.

Well ****. I was just speculating how Steve could still be on the table. Was he truly just leakbait for Banjo? I predicted that he might’ve been mistaken for Banjo leakbait when in actuality he might be coming afterwards in DLC Pass 2

 

[Deleted member]

You mean Geno, the echo fighter of Sans?

Oh yeah I totally forgot that last patch they removed Mii Gunner and replaced them with Sans in that case yeah Geno will be an echo fighter of Sans.

 

[Vector Victor]

Hey guys... here's a positive affirmation: Geno will be in Smash Ultimate.

Good positivity, but it needs a bit correcting:

Geno will be playable character XX in Smash Ultimate.


XX in case he's in the 80s set instead.

 

[wynn728]

This I can answer. Aside from Crash, Geno, and Ryu, there's like 4 or 5 others that have come up with enough frequency that I feel like they were either seriously considered at one point or are going to come eventually. This is why I shot down Reimu because, like I said yesterday, nobody noteworthy has seriously talked about the character and that one guy was an island.

Got it. So it's Waluigi, Eggman Nega, Mecha Waluigi, and Waleggi Nega.