Geno (♥♪!?): Return of the Starsend Savior

[PsychoIncarnate]

I remembered how to use After effects, which means I can make my animations all separately and connect them together. That will massively decrease the amount of work I have to do.

Edit: I'm sure that there is easier programs to do that, but I just have the most experience with After Effects. I made whole animations in it before

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dc1PUx9tI1E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMStBnlSZ-s

 

[Geno Boost]

Smash Crusade has just releasd this song for the new forest maze stage that is coming!!!

 

[Just a random scrub]

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Making the "UI" for my imaginary game. It's just an fun animation project.

Wish I knew how to make a real game

Background has animations and I would have posted it with the animations but some of the text accidently got messed up on different frames

How do you make custom sprites? I really want to start doing that **** myself.

 

[Vector Victor]

The Ivysaur amiibo is really good. I like his design, much better than Brawl. It gives me hope that Geno's amiibo is really good.


And Mallow's amiibo.

 

[Evil Trapezium]

See, I don't think Ness' home sickness is all that mechanically different from Steve's hunger. It's just a glorified (unseen) resource bar you have to manage. Yes, it colors his character ever so slightly, but not by much.

Also, Minecraft gives you objectives like the Achievement List (which is more directly connected to Minecraft than in most games) and there are things to do like kill the Ender Dragon that are not directly communicated to you as the player, but serves as one of the "goals for your world." Like, the entirety of the original Dragon Quest is just going to kill one Dragon too. Along the way you have to get better gear so that you'll actually survive that fight. The only real difference is there's an extremely minor amount of characterization you get along the way.

I don't see why the freedom a game offers suddenly makes it less narrative-ly less deserving. Yes, there is no official language of communication in the game other than through grunts, but is that experience really defined differently or any less valid than sweeping narratives. If you subscribe to the ideas of the medium is the message (you're free to claim Minecraft has no message, just as I'm free to claim it does have one about creativity and exploration,etc.), then there's a little bit more to Minecraft and video games in general that you can really dig into. I think there's a super compelling point to be made of games that use gameplay to tell their world and story are more compelling than those that lean on the trappings of other artistic mediums (text dumps are famous in old video games and how many modern games resort to long cut scenes that are glorified animated movies). Yes, it's a randomly generated world that has very few limits and that you're free to operate in as you see fit, but there's still an experience for the player to be had and goals that you can choose to partake in. All game goals are optional at the end of the day too. Like, yes, developers assume you will participate in their curated content... but then you have people deciding to act out their lives as NPCs in Skyrim despite how much "true content" there is to be experienced. I just don't think there's all that much that separates Minecraft and other titles with self-inserts, and that such a difference isn't really important in the long run.

No matter how minor it is, it's something added to his character that no one else in his party can suffer from and is percentage based. Hunger is something everyone is affected by and it's part of everyone's survival, in Minecraft, the hunger meter gradually lowers the more you don't eat so it's not the same gameplay or reality wise.

With the achievement list, it's more comparable to a side quest since you are not required to complete them to progress with the game and therefore isn't canonical to Steve's character. Like I said, Minecraft never restricts you from going anywhere unlike the games mentioned before. Mojang has never given Steve a story or character building so for all we know, the most canonical thing for Steve to do is stand at his spawn point and do absolutely nothing. With Dragon Quest 1, the first objective given to you is to rescue Princess Gwaelin and while there is nothing stopping you from not rescuing her, there is promotional artwork with the Hero and Gwaelin together which means it's canonical for the Hero to rescue or at least meet her. While there is promotional artwork for Minecraft as well with Steve and Alex together with sword and pickaxes, there isn't anything inherently character building about them and you also can't enter the exact same caves as shown in the artwork either. What you experience will be completely different to what is shown while games like Zelda and Dragon Quest, your journey will essentially be the same canonically.

Minecraft is less "deserving" narrative wise because it doesn't tell a story, it never tells you to do anything, it never stops you from exploring and all the promotional artwork while it gives us insight that Steve and Alex work together, she or Steve if you pick the Alex skin will never be by your side in game. The medium in Minecraft is what you do, not what Steve does. With games like Zelda, Earthbound and Dragon Quest, yes you get to control the players and do what you want but your actions do not ultimately matter as the narrative will push you to the destination eventually.

 

[Deleted member]

Steve can do everything in the game. It makes no sense to have a block and that’s just being trollish at this point, he can place blocks down and use many different, unique items. People like him because of liking his design and seeing him as the main character of their favorite game. He has been seen as the face for nearly 10 years.

I hate to bring the topic back to this but I just want to clear the water and say that I'm not joking around when I say I could see a block being a playable character before Steve, see the following:

LOL You must not have been around back when I was arguing with someone as to whether a tetris block should be a playable fighter. (I tried joking about the fact that the blocks didn't even have limbs and somehow we ended up on the topic of telekinetic potatoes. Don't ask.) Long story short, anything you can imagine, no matter how seemingly impossible or absurd as you might think it is, SOMEONE will avidly support it. Heck, there's still people out there that can't fathom the idea of anyone wanting a possessed wooden doll from a decades-old Mario spin-off to get into Smash. As I've said before, one man's legend is another man's "who?".

I could totally see Sakurai making a Tetrimino a playable fighter if it tickled his fancy and I could right now come up with a moveset for Minecraft Block that would be novel, represent the game well, and maybe even blow some minds. Dirt by default, obsidian by smash attack, cobblestone by tilts. Slime block while holding an item, sticky piston when grabbing, up B teleport by turning into an air block... Maybe even make clones of itself as sand or gravel projectiles. Who knows!

How do you make custom sprites? I really want to start doing that **** myself.

MS Paint is a great place to start.

To offer my sincerest apologies for bringing the topic back to Steve, have a sprite of Geno I made in like two minutes. It's not much but it's honest work.

 

[Deleted member]

Was it confirmed that Nintendo chose the characters outside the Fighters Pass?

 

[TheCJBrine]

I hate to bring the topic back to this but I just want to clear the water and say that I'm not joking around when I say I could see a block being a playable character before Steve, see the following:



I could totally see Sakurai making a Tetrimino a playable fighter if it tickled his fancy and I could right now come up with a moveset for Minecraft Block that would be novel, represent the game well, and maybe even blow some minds. Dirt by default, obsidian by smash attack, cobblestone by tilts. Slime block while holding an item, sticky piston when grabbing, up B teleport by turning into an air block... Maybe even make clones of itself as sand or gravel projectiles. Who knows!

Why would he choose an inanimate object of all things before the actual character? At least Piranha Plant is still alive...

At least Tetris is literally just the blocks, and it’s not even comparable to Minecraft. Blocks alone wouldn’t even represent Minecraft correctly. It always bugged me how people would gladly root for an I or L block yet complain about Steve of all characters for reasons that also and moreso apply to Tetris since Tetris blocks aren’t characters at all but instead objects unless there’s some game where they are characters...

But I just want to drop this now. I’ve already felt frickin horrible in my last post about it and how a few of my points even go ignored for some frickin reason so I just want this stupid argument to end especially since it never should’ve existed in the first place with how stupid and childish it is, excuse me for being attached to a block man and knowing info available for the public eye that he’s an officially confirmed character for Minecraft. I didn’t want to deal with it in the stupid Banjo vs. Steve “war” and I definitely don’t want to deal with it now and I can’t believe it actually frickin exists. I’m perfectly fine with people not liking him but I’m tired of these stupid made-up arguments that even go against official stuff just for the sake of “muh perfect and selfish roster” when in the end all of people’s incessant hatred and gatekeeping is just mean, insignificant and petty, just like it is for every other character.

 

[Datboigeno]

At what point does talking about specific characters that aren't Geno on the Geno thread become "off-topic"? Genuine question.

 

[Deleted member]

At what point does talking about specific characters that aren't Geno on the Geno thread become "off-topic"? Genuine question.

Never. People bring their characters to the wish bringer to beg their case in front of the higher authority.

 

[Ovaltine]

Was it confirmed that Nintendo chose the characters outside the Fighters Pass?

Yes, Sakurai confirmed it. I don't think it's bad for Geno's chances, though. I mean, they chose freaking Banjo-Kazooie over Minecraft Steve and Master Chief.

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Anyway, can we ****ing stop with all the ****ting on Steve and his fans here? I'm getting beyond sick of this, and TheCJBrine getting heckled just for supporting their character is beyond uncool. Aren't we as Geno fans tired of getting dogpiled for the same thing? So... why are we doing it to other fans? It's childish and cruel, and I'm honestly appalled at some of the ****-flinging I'm seeing. I've gotta be blunt here: it's annoying and stupid tripe at this point, not to mention off-topic for Geno. Grow up.

 

[Firox]

Was it confirmed that Nintendo chose the characters outside the Fighters Pass?

Technically, yes, Sakurai has again confirmed that Nintendo is "picking" the fighters by giving him a "list" to choose from, however, given the amount of creative freedom he's retained along with how broad the "list" seems to be, I would say that the distinction between "Sakurai" and "Nintendo" is murky at best. On the upside, I agree with Ovaltine that this shouldn't have any kind of negative impact on Geno's chances since B-K was able to get in regardless.

EDIT: Whoops, got 'd

 

[Vector Victor]

Technically, yes, Sakurai has again confirmed that Nintendo is "picking" the fighters by giving him a "list" to choose from, however, given the amount of creative freedom he's retained along with how broad the "list" seems to be, I would say that the distinction between "Sakurai" and "Nintendo" is murky at best. On the upside, I agree with Ovaltine that this shouldn't have any kind of negative impact on Geno's chances since B-K was able to get in regardless.

EDIT: Whoops, got 'd

Also, Nintendo sent out that tweet last year acknowledging SMRPG's 22nd anniversary ('Team Geno or Team Mallow'), so that bodes well if Nintendo is picking as SMRPG is on their minds.

 

[Ovaltine]

Also, Nintendo sent out that tweet last year acknowledging SMRPG's 22nd anniversary ('Team Geno or Team Mallow'), so that bodes well if Nintendo is picking as SMRPG is on their minds.

To be fair, NoJ is choosing the DLC with Sakurai. This tweet was from NoA. I have no doubt that NoA treasures SMRPG, but I can't be so sure about NoJ.

 

[Deleted member]

To be fair, NoJ is choosing the DLC with Sakurai. This tweet was from NoA. I have no doubt that NoA treasures SMRPG, but I can't be so sure about NoJ.

It's safe to assume they work together pretty closely. I mean, I'm sure Nintendo of Japan really loves Banjo Kazooie...

 

[Dukefire]

Coming from the Shantae thread, I do hope that Geno does make it to becoming a full fledged fighter like the Half Genie.

Also, here is a fan made remix of the Super Mario RPG music track created from the Crusade team

 

[Deleted member]

Follow him to victory in Smash...

it feels good to sit back, relax, and make a sprite animated after so long of being too busy to do it.

 

[Glitch-EGamer]

Geno is the main guy but I'd love it if Mallow helps with grabs, taunts, victory screens, and maybe some other attacks.

 

[Firox]

If Nintendo/SE were to ever make a SMRPG sequel or hi-def remake, what would be the funnest thing you'd want to see in it?

I think it'd be cool to show a time skip and see how the characters have changed over the years. Maybe run into some old characters interacting in ways we've never seen before. Could you imagine if Valentina ever ran into Booster? I could see it now:

Valentina would think he's the most repugnant thing she's ever seen while he stands there ogling her with hearts bugling out of his eyes. Before she can protest, he drags her to Marrymore and they get hitched with the Sniff-its and Dodo in attendance, bickering in the background. All the way home, Valentina moans about how much she hates Booster until she sees his tower (lol, yes, the building) and the army of creatures at his command. Unbeknownst to our heroes, Booster's new wife now sees an opportunity for revenge against Mallow and Nimbus land by adding some brains to Booster's brawn....

 

[xpnc]

Could you imagine if Valentina ever ran into Booster? I could see it now:

You don't have to imagine it. They get married at the end of SMRPG

 

[Firox]

You don't have to imagine it. They get married at the end of SMRPG

Oh, ****, I totally forgot.... a match made in hell...

Dang, it's been so long since my last playthrough. Guess I should dust off the ol' SNES mini...

 

[SpiritOfRuin]

Geno is the main guy but I'd love it if Mallow helps with grabs, taunts, victory screens, and maybe some other attacks.

I don't think I would mind if Mallow was in victory screens and maybe taunts, but for me the grabs is an absolute no no. I do not want Mallow as a part of Geno's moveset at all. Geno does not need that to be a full fledged character that represents SMRPG. I would love for both to become unique and wholly separate fighters but Geno is the one with all the popularity in terms of Smash.

To me, Mallow being a part of Geno's moveset would make me feel like the creators did not feel that Geno could have a moveset all of his own and I would hate that. I don't like that Toad is part of Peach's moveset either although at least in that case she is Princess Toadstool and commands the toads so it actually makes some sense. It wouldn't make enough sense for Geno and Mallow in my opinion. But this is all my opinion anyway and I can understand people wanting to pack as much SMRPG content into Geno's moveset as possible and represent Mallow in some way since it's unlikely he would become a fighter as well. I mean even though the player controls both Geno and Mallow in SMRPG, Geno does not control or command Mallow so it just doesn't make sense to me. I feel like Sakurai has this opinion as well otherwise many other characters would be incorporated into other movesets like Cloud's moveset or Joker's or other Punch Out characters being a part of Little Mac's moveset and the like. If anything, the Geno/Mallow Ice Climbers duo style fighter would make a little more sense and I could tolerate that but would still prefer both as unique fighters and knowing that we won't get both barred some insane miracle, I would prefer Geno as a unique standalone fighter.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

How do you make custom sprites? I really want to start doing that **** myself.

You just do it. There are a couple rules to follow with new and SNES sprites. For years I didn't even try but I eventually started doing it, transitioning from Minecraft textures. Editing Minecraft textures taught me about pixel art.

 

[Ayumi Tachibana]

Technically, yes, Sakurai has again confirmed that Nintendo is "picking" the fighters by giving him a "list" to choose from, however, given the amount of creative freedom he's retained along with how broad the "list" seems to be, I would say that the distinction between "Sakurai" and "Nintendo" is murky at best. On the upside, I agree with Ovaltine that this shouldn't have any kind of negative impact on Geno's chances since B-K was able to get in regardless.

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Sakurai never said he gets a "list" from Nintendo.
What he exactly said was that Nintendo asks him can he make a "certain" character viable or not. You could also translate as "THE" character. You may not get it, but it's quite huge to use words equivalent to English "the" in the language of Japanese.
It's very possible that Nintendo brought a bunch of characters and asked him for each one by one, but Nintendo giving him a "list" is still purely on fan's speculation.

 

[EricTheGamerman]

Sakurai never said he gets a "list" from Nintendo.
What he exactly said was that Nintendo asks him can he make a "certain" character viable or not. You could also translate as "THE" character. You may not get it, but it's quite huge to use words equivalent to English "the" in the language of Japanese.
It's very possible that Nintendo brought a bunch of characters and asked him for each one by one, but Nintendo giving him a "list" is still purely on fan's speculation.

Yeah, I'm confused as to how this narrative of a list that Sakurai picks from has been such a perpetrated idea since Source Gaming published their translation of the Famitsu column and Sakurai said they to him with a character and he approved them (and seemed to imply that he hadn't refused any at that too). There's no Sakurai picking from a list anywhere in the translations and just seems like wishful thinking on the part of the fans.

 

[YsDisciple]

So, the Smash Bros. Japan official twitter account posted this. We'll be getting a new Daemon X Machina spirit soon.
https://twitter.com/SmashBrosJP/status/1176798499700183040

 

[Sour Supreme]

Is there a concrete example of a character thus far that Nintendo came directly to Sakurai about? Do we know who he was referencing? The characters seem widely fan demanded, and in the case of Terry, definetely a personal choice by Sakurai at some level.

 

[Ovaltine]

Is there a concrete example of a character thus far that Nintendo came directly to Sakurai about? Do we know who he was referencing? The characters seem widely fan demanded, and in the case of Terry, definetely a personal choice by Sakurai at some level.

Honestly? We don't know. There's so much about the selection process that we do not know. A lot of the details have been relatively unknown. We know Sakurai went to Atlus and Square, but we don't know if Nintendo approached them first, iirc. It's all a load of question marks.

 

[EricTheGamerman]

Is there a concrete example of a character thus far that Nintendo came directly to Sakurai about? Do we know who he was referencing? The characters seem widely fan demanded, and in the case of Terry, definetely a personal choice by Sakurai at some level.

I mean, Sakurai and Nintendo have mostly been quiet in regards to how characters get picked, but the one thing Sakurai has emphasized time and time again is that Nintendo picks the character and he either approves or vetoes their inclusion (with seemingly no veto used at this point based upon the more DLC Famistu column). There are any number of elements that could decide what happens before Nintendo picks the DLC fighters like Sakurai even suggesting certain character options to them or even perhaps giving them a list of candidates he would like to put in and then Nintendo making the "final decision" that Sakurai will then approve of, or maybe they don't consult him at all. We don't know how Nintendo arrives at their choices. I wouldn't really say the characters are wildly fan demanded outside of Banjo & Kazooie as the "Smash Bubble" pick, the rest were mostly sensible inclusions with pretty good relationships to Nintendo. SNK, Square Enix, and Sega/Atlus have done a lot for Nintendo over the past couple of years, so it's likely they were all ideal candidates for DLC fighters from notable third parties, and even Microsoft gets a shout out in this way too.

Sakurai also just plays a whole bunch of games that are really popular and that he likes, so I'd argue it's harder to find stuff he hasn't mentioned in at least some capacity that fit the roster from big notable third parties. Terry and Joker seem like Sakurai picks at first glance, but SNK and Atlus are very fairly notable Japanese companies going through some amount of resurgence right now that also support Nintendo and have pretty big legacies. Atlus said Joker got in because of Sakurai's enthusiasm for Persona 5, so that has been the complicating factor thus far in this, but it would make sense that Nintendo would choose Joker and then Sakurai would be the one to directly approach Atlus for licensing, so that's been my general interpretation to resolve the commentary from different sources.

 

[Deleted member]

Sakurai never said he gets a "list" from Nintendo.
What he exactly said was that Nintendo asks him can he make a "certain" character viable or not. You could also translate as "THE" character. You may not get it, but it's quite huge to use words equivalent to English "the" in the language of Japanese.
It's very possible that Nintendo brought a bunch of characters and asked him for each one by one, but Nintendo giving him a "list" is still purely on fan's speculation.

Yeah a good many pages ago it was pointed out that "this specific character" is the most appropriate translation.

For those who may not be into Japanese as a language, things are very rarely specified. Context lets speakers and readers understand what's being targeted by a statement, so to have absolute indication is somewhat abnormal. The only counterargument I have for this is maybe Sakurai feels like young children will be reading his statements, so he needs to be as specific as possible.

I still feel like there's a planning group that goes over various goals Nintendo wants to achieve with the game and suggests the character based on that. There's a "list" somewhere, in some form, but I don't think Sakurai sees it, and there's a good chance it isn't a Christmas list that they're just checking or Xing down.

Is there a concrete example of a character thus far that Nintendo came directly to Sakurai about? Do we know who he was referencing? The characters seem widely fan demanded, and in the case of Terry, definetely a personal choice by Sakurai at some level.

No. The timeline of "Nintendo chose" has been vague. On November 3 or so, 2018, Sakurai tweeted that the DLC characters had been decided on. "This time, Nintendo chose the fighters". He then followed that up with a message that they weren't looking for suggestions for characters so don't flood him with "where's [character]?".

More recently, in his column, Sakurai again vaguely stated that Nintendo decides the fighters. He even excludes the DLC part to this, but that could be a result of the aforementioned Japanese mechanics of not being specific. He offers a shallow glimpse of what he means by saying that Nintendo tells him the fighter, but he can still say no. There is almost nothing in the world as ambiguous as this selection process.

 

[Firox]

Yeah a good many pages ago it was pointed out that "this specific character" is the most appropriate translation.

For those who may not be into Japanese as a language, things are very rarely specified. Context lets speakers and readers understand what's being targeted by a statement, so to have absolute indication is somewhat abnormal. The only counterargument I have for this is maybe Sakurai feels like young children will be reading his statements, so he needs to be as specific as possible.

I still feel like there's a planning group that goes over various goals Nintendo wants to achieve with the game and suggests the character based on that. There's a "list" somewhere, in some form, but I don't think Sakurai sees it, and there's a good chance it isn't a Christmas list that they're just checking or Xing down.

Exactly. Hence why I used quotation marks over the word "list". It wasn't meant to be taken literally so it'd be nice if people stopped flipping out at the use of the word.

 

[Ayumi Tachibana]

One thing we know is that the plan for the first fighter pass was made without Sakurai and his dev team knowing about it. May be in the finalization process Sakurai was there but still tho.

 

[Deleted member]

Exactly. Hence why I used quotation marks over the word "list". It wasn't meant to be taken literally so it'd be nice if people stopped flipping out at the use of the word.

We'll just have to add it to the list of misquoted or outright made up fan assumptions about the DLC:

Reggie never said that the Fighters Pass characters were going to be franchises never represented in Smash (but it's so far turning out that way)
"Adding new worlds to Smash" is a questionable translation choice of "expanding the world of Smash"
Sakurai is actually Santa Claus and if his elves at Nintendo don't bring him your character on the "Nice" list they're never making it into the game.

Did I miss anything? These are the ones that I encounter all the time.

 

[Firox]

Sakurai is actually Santa Claus and if his elves at Nintendo don't bring him your character on the "Nice" list they're never making it into the game.

LOL Now I'm picturing Sakurai with the words "Naughty" and "Nice" tattooed on each arm like Santa in Rise of the Guardians.

 

[Wish7s]

Hey guys! So phase 2 of Summit voting has started and I'm looking for everyone's help. Right now we're planning a spirit bomb for voting so if you plan on supporting me here's a discord link for that. https://discord.gg/tnjJ4nF
I also have voting incentives, if you give me 25 votes (25 votes is equivalent to $10) you get a charm you could put on your controller or wherever really
Also a reminder, if I get into summit I will bring and wear a full Geno costume! Please consider supporting me <3
https://smash.gg/tournament/smash-ultimate-summit-2/voting

 

[Sour Supreme]

I mean, Sakurai and Nintendo have mostly been quiet in regards to how characters get picked, but the one thing Sakurai has emphasized time and time again is that Nintendo picks the character and he either approves or vetoes their inclusion (with seemingly no veto used at this point based upon the more DLC Famistu column). There are any number of elements that could decide what happens before Nintendo picks the DLC fighters like Sakurai even suggesting certain character options to them or even perhaps giving them a list of candidates he would like to put in and then Nintendo making the "final decision" that Sakurai will then approve of, or maybe they don't consult him at all. We don't know how Nintendo arrives at their choices. I wouldn't really say the characters are wildly fan demanded outside of Banjo & Kazooie as the "Smash Bubble" pick, the rest were mostly sensible inclusions with pretty good relationships to Nintendo. SNK, Square Enix, and Sega/Atlus have done a lot for Nintendo over the past couple of years, so it's likely they were all ideal candidates for DLC fighters from notable third parties, and even Microsoft gets a shout out in this way too.

Sakurai also just plays a whole bunch of games that are really popular and that he likes, so I'd argue it's harder to find stuff he hasn't mentioned in at least some capacity that fit the roster from big notable third parties. Terry and Joker seem like Sakurai picks at first glance, but SNK and Atlus are very fairly notable Japanese companies going through some amount of resurgence right now that also support Nintendo and have pretty big legacies. Atlus said Joker got in because of Sakurai's enthusiasm for Persona 5, so that has been the complicating factor thus far in this, but it would make sense that Nintendo would choose Joker and then Sakurai would be the one to directly approach Atlus for licensing, so that's been my general interpretation to resolve the commentary from different sources.

I see. It is noteworthy that since Atlus and SNK are both Japenese companies, its easy for the Western audience to see Terry and Joker as Sakurai choices. I think we tend to view Sakurai's personal interest as widely synonymous with what the Japanese audience would desire, which may or may not be the case.

 

[BZocky]

Is there a concrete example of a character thus far that Nintendo came directly to Sakurai about?

Reggie confirmed in an E3 interview that they shared the feedback of Waluigi’s ‘groundswell’ with Sakurai and his team. Not sure what reference you’re talking about though.

 

[Deleted member]

Reggie confirmed in an E3 interview that they shared the feedback of Waluigi’s ‘groundswell’ with Sakurai and his team. Not sure what reference you’re talking about but on a personal level Waluigi was his Mario Tennis Aces main.

Dang, I guess Waluigi is on the naughty list permanently.

 

[Hydreigonfan01]

So, the Smash Bros. Japan official twitter account posted this. We'll be getting a new Daemon X Machina spirit soon.
https://twitter.com/SmashBrosJP/status/1176798499700183040

Daemon x Machina spirits, and yet no Three Houses or Astral Chain spirits? Hmmm... I wonder if in the additional DLC two characters from those games will be playable.

 

[StarLight42]

Daemon x Machina spirits, and yet no Three Houses or Astral Chain spirits? Hmmm... I wonder if in the additional DLC two characters from those games will be playable.

oh...man...

I think i'm gonna be sick...