General ICs Q&A Thread

[Hot_ArmS]

yeah dont be like ambrose people!

 

[Hylian]

LOL no one ever uses the Q&A thread here and always posts them randomly in the IC boards. Poor Hylian.

Anyway I wanted to ask y'all how to perform the 'Hylian infinite grab' which I have heard of. The QA thread is for simple and quick question so don't complain to me that I must read the stickies cos I've already read some. Another question is how can I perform any other difficult but highly rewarding infinite grabs that are feared in matches?

Thanks

HD

There is no Chaingrab named after me, and please don't name one after me lol. I discovered a few of them(like how to bthrow with nana without pivoting) but I hate when people name stuff after themselves :/.

 

[BkMan]

how do you get good at the chain grab did u watch other vids how did you practice??

 

[BkMan]

oo and how do you de sych the ice climbers?????

also how did you dy synch the ice climber sin the hylian and ally match at the beggining of the match????

 

[Hylian]

how do you get good at the chain grab did u watch other vids how did you practice??

No there were no videos for me to watch when I first started playing IC's lol. I just practiced a lot. Practice practice practice practice. Nothing more to it.

oo and how do you de sych the ice climbers?????

also how did you dy synch the ice climber sin the hylian and ally match at the beggining of the match????

You can desynch several ways. The best way to desynch is to pivot as it's the fastest and you can do it pretty safetly. In my match with ally I did a starting desynch. As the match starts just hold a button and nana will do that move but popo won't. So I just started out holding B.

 

[hdrevolution123]

There is no Chaingrab named after me, and please don't name one after me lol. I discovered a few of them(like how to bthrow with nana without pivoting) but I hate when people name stuff after themselves :/.

Oooh thanks... I guess

 

[BkMan]

how do you pivot and wats pivoting again??????

how do you do the Ice Climber Back throw Ice Block combo/Chain Grab i cant get it down its like ialways throw it back and make nana jump but she never footstools so if you can tell me the timing that would be great

 

[Barge]

we can't tell you "timing"
it seems like you try once and give up.
You just gotta keep practicing.

 

[Deleted member]

Just need confirmation on this: Is a fresh fully charged d-smash the most damaging attack in the game? It deals 53% to Bowser.

 

[lain]

You do realize that's only because you're probably hitting bowser with all four hits of the dsmash?

 

[ChibiIceClimberz]

Just need confirmation on this: Is a fresh fully charged d-smash the most damaging attack in the game? It deals 53% to Bowser.

Yes, but I've heard that the maximum damage was up to 54%-56%.

Yes, because the ICs' d-smash hits 4 times close to Bowser dealing heavy amounts of damage. If there was one ice climber, probably the damage will be either 23%-30% which I forgot on G&W.

 

[FrozenHobo]

Just need confirmation on this: Is a fresh fully charged d-smash the most damaging attack in the game? It deals 53% to Bowser.

actually, lucas's dsmash is more powerful.... but its literally the ONLY dsmash thats more powerful.

 

[Dev2000]

actually, lucas's dsmash is more powerful.... but its literally the ONLY dsmash thats more powerful.

ye but then all 3 hits have to actually HIT and... when was the last time that happened?
it only occured 2 with me times with that Timer thing and when i was in between 2 walls and he kept bouncing back inside
it was awesome :D

 

[Teh Future]

If you use lucas dsmash on platforms it can get multiple hits, but I pretty sure the person has to DI into the second and third hits.

 

[Dev2000]

If you use lucas dsmash on platforms it can get multiple hits, but I pretty sure the person has to DI into the second and third hits.

that is in fact True

Edit: I surely dont want to multipost anyways

I have a theory and i think itll work ive tested it but i dont know if it will work ALL that well in real matches (hate training mode) anywaaaay

The Theory

Down throw Fair combo can be done mostly up to 2 times after that we ALT grab or Ice block lock
BUT i came up with something idk if it has been found yet thats why im in Q&A
After youve done it two times and then your opponent smashes into the ground do a jab
DONT use the second just one jab and then walk forward A LITTLE then regrab with popo it has the same effect as that IC quick grab Hylian came up with (btw that ones brilliant)

so do you think this will work?
and has it been found yet? (i think it is cause its easy to figure out by yourself haha )
and if this works in real matches as much as i hope we will kill 10 times as fast as we usually do

Answer when you can or as soon as possible

 

[lain]

No the jab stands them up and thus gives them time to get away. In some cases the jab will actually make them slightly airborne, and they can jump away.

Interesting theory, but this is something I wish could happen ever since Brawl came out (i.e. THUNDERS' COMBO)

 

[C~Dog]

Okay i was messing around with ICs today doing dashing upsmashes, and i thought that if i dashed in one direction and then quickly input a dash in the original direction and an up smash i could slide farther than normal (this may sound stupid, but bear with me - i'm new here). While i was doing this, i made an interesting discovery: If you dash backwards, then A while holding the joystick up and forward, you will slide forward like a normal dashing upsmash, but Popo will do a foward smash, and Nana will do an Upsmash. It also works with charging the smashes, so with only a little big more time taken to start the move, you can dash forward and use both charged up and down smashes simultaneously!

So the input is like this: Tap backwards only the joystick, then quickly press diagonal-up-forward on the joystick + A.

It also works if you swap forward and back around, so you slide back and do up and forward smashes.

I'm not sure as this has been discovered already, as I looked through some threads and saw nothing, but it is possible that i missed it so i figured I would post here before making a thread. Also, sorry about the terminology, i'm not sure which ATs are which yet.

EDIT: Sorry, it is back, then diagonal-up-forward + A, not c-stick.

 

[Dev2000]

Okay i was messing around with ICs today doing dashing upsmashes, and i thought that if i dashed in one direction and then quickly input a dash in the original direction and an up smash i could slide farther than normal (this may sound stupid, but bear with me - i'm new here). While i was doing this, i made an interesting discovery: If you dash backwards, then A while holding the joystick up and forward, you will slide forward like a normal dashing upsmash, but Popo will do a foward smash, and Nana will do an Upsmash. It also works with charging the smashes, so with only a little big more time taken to start the move, you can dash forward and use both charged up and down smashes simultaneously!

So the input is like this: Tap backwards only the joystick, then quickly press diagonal-up-forward on the joystick + A.

It also works if you swap forward and back around, so you slide back and do up and forward smashes.


I'm not sure as this has been discovered already, as I looked through some threads and saw nothing, but it is possible that i missed it so i figured I would post here before making a thread. Also, sorry about the terminology, i'm not sure which ATs are which yet.

EDIT: Sorry, it is back, then diagonal-up-forward + A, not c-stick.

yes you can do different attacks while desynched even smashes yes you can also do Smash side b or something down b and side b you can make crazy combinations

No the jab stands them up and thus gives them time to get away. In some cases the jab will actually make them slightly airborne, and they can jump away.

Interesting theory, but this is something I wish could happen ever since Brawl came out (i.e. THUNDERS' COMBO)

that is true
ah well im gonna experiment around with it and hope i come up with something like it that is un escapeable You will hear more about this
im not gonna give up on this

Edit: Facepalm... just do 1 ice block that will force him into stand up animation and then the enemy is still in range for regrab but im concerned about the enemy SOMETIMES not getting up so you do 1 ice block regrab to Dthrow Fair then use 2 ice blocks it works for me and he will still be in range for a regrab
thats something that might work and it beats the ice block lock
it will give them less then a second time to get away but mostly when REAL players are being chaingrabbed their like What the hell...... and dont know what to do

Dthrow > Fair > 1 ice block > Regrab w popo > Dthrow Fair > 2 ice blocks > Regrab > REPEAT

Edit2: Woo! i tested it in a match today online and it works just fine i hope this will help us IC mains (i geuss not cause i fail)

 

[DerpDaBerp]

Hi, noob IC player here, please help

1. How far away can the secondary climber be from the primary climber before the secondary does not respond to commands but rather just tries to catch up to the primary?

2. How far away can the secondary climber be from the other for the Up-B to work (it may be tedious but the most useful answer would probably be in IC body length)?

3. Do the individual ICs have differences with their attacks (besides Fair)(damage/knockback/etc.)?

4. Does it matter towards the Up-B whether the secondary climber is above or below you?

5. What is the best tactic for a lone Climber?

6. What level of AI takes over for the secondary climber when too far away from the primary?

 

[JustNoOne]

Hi, noob IC player here, please help

1. How far away can the secondary climber be from the primary climber before the secondary does not respond to commands but rather just tries to catch up to the primary?

No clue, but I'll be guessing 2 characters away

2. How far away can the secondary climber be from the other for the Up-B to work (it may be tedious but the most useful answer would probably be in IC body length)?

Again I don't know, in some cases, some people have gotten their other climber from all the way under the map in FD from the stage, the key rule is that as long as they are synced, they will connect

3. Do the individual ICs have differences with their attacks (besides Fair)(damage/knockback/etc.)?

The knockback on the Fsmash is different, I really don't know about anything else, but it seems likely.

4. Does it matter towards the Up-B whether the secondary climber is above or below you?

No

5. What is the best tactic for a lone Climber?

Play smart and space properly.

6. What level of AI takes over for the secondary climber when too far away from the primary?

Huh? Level of AI? The only thing I know about the AI when it's far away from you, it trys to come back to you in a predictable way again and again.

Answers in bold

 

[DerpDaBerp]

K, thanks
Hmmm, yeah just disregard that 6th question

 

[momochuu]

See? Told ya. :3

 

[JustNoOne]

I would have told ja to say what you need in here, but since Kawaii Bunny is a mod, I don't have to wait for Hylain to stop drinking his Dr Pepper and lock a thread :3

 

[Nintendogs]

So... what happened in the 2 1/2 months I was gone?

 

[FrozenHobo]

So... what happened in the 2 1/2 months I was gone?

we lived, brian. we lived. DANCE WITH ME BRIAN! DANCE THE DANCE OF LIFE!

 

[lain]

this is what happened SINCE U BEEN GONEEEEE

HAI GAIZ I WUZ JSUT WUNDERING HOW 2 DO THE CG CORRECTLY? I CAN'T GET THE BTHROW TIMING, CAN SOME1 PLZ JUST **** OUT AN ANSWER FOR ME?!

[6000 word essay]

[N][N][Y]] I am a girl and thus guys hit on me so I became a mod to classify it sexual harassment. you'll all receive statements within three business days kthxbai :3

I know a lot of ridiculous crap that breaks the universe.

Listen man, I already told I'm pretty sure popo and nana's uairs both do 12% each when fresh. srsly. hey are you listening?

I am cool because I like superjail. oh yeah and my sig is really cryptic. what was this topic about again?

I am really good. I knows the metaknihgts for ic's.

this turned into something i completely did not intend.

 

[Dev2000]

So... what happened in the 2 1/2 months I was gone?

We conquered smashboards and thats just the beginning
WE will destroy the interwebs!!

 

[Bnzaaa]

Lain's post is too good .

 

[Dev2000]

thats because lain is awesome lol

 

[JustNoOne]

Lain just summarized everything :3

 

[momochuu]

Lol, that was probably the best post I've ever seen on this site. x3

 

[Dev2000]

Lain just summarized everything :3

*Points at my last post*

Lol, that was probably the best post I've ever seen on this site. x3

*Points at the text saying im pointing at the last post*

 

[FrozenHobo]

lol superjail IS awesome.

 

[Dev2000]

lol superjail IS awesome.

Yup ive been there once but got out for good behavior werent you that guy serving lunch on teusdays? or was it thursday?

Superjail IS awesome indeed

 

[Nintendogs]

this is what happened SINCE U BEEN GONEEEEE

I see...

And were there actually any new CG's/tactics/desyncs discovered? Or did everybody just die after I left

 

[Dev2000]

I see...




As far as I can tell, noobs/spammers have conquered us. WE are being destroyed by the interwebs!!



And were there actually any new CG's/tactics/desyncs discovered? Or did everybody just die after I left

i geuss that bthrow footstool ice block thing from Hylian and that IC quickgrab Also Hylian but idk for sure if you already know

 

[momochuu]

*Messed up* <.<

*cough* Err, yeah, we've pretty much been taken over by newer people trying to figure out how to play ICs so we pretty much get "HAO DO U CHANEGRAB???" Threads everyday.

Sorry about that edit. xDD

 

[Dev2000]

*Messed up* <.<

*cough* Err, yeah, we've pretty much been taken over by newer people trying to figure out how to play ICs so we pretty much get "HAO DO U CHANEGRAB???" Threads everyday.

Sorry about that edit. xDD

Ye that was a pain well your mod now so you have the power to press Lock thread so noooow we wont have that problem that much anymore cause your more active on IC boards then other mods

every day i logged on some new thread popped up with How do i chaingrab
No seriously how do i do it?
and its quite obvious we have a Q&A thread when you first visit these boards :\ i geuss some people will never learn :\

 

[JustNoOne]

Yeah... Basically there are more new people interested in ICs so they go "Hey! I need to learn how to chaingrab!"

There's not much changed really :3

 

[Dev2000]

Yeah... Basically there are more new people interested in ICs so they go "Hey! I need to learn how to chaingrab!"

There's not much changed really :3

yup its the old same ic boards well... INCLUDING ME now :D how awesome is that!? :D
not that awsome i suppose