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General ICs Q&A Thread
- Thread starter smaci92
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lain
Smash Master
Actually staling applies to knockback as well.
Dthrow meteor spike can be unreliable nowadays. Makes me sad :[
Dthrow meteor spike can be unreliable nowadays. Makes me sad :[
_Phloat_
Smash Champion
No-throw meteor spike would be my main choice. Never even tried the f-throw one =\
lain
Smash Master
people can smash di the no throw meteor back onto the stage. it fails.
lain
Smash Master
There's no real good way to come back. Too predictable, and too short of recoveries to be useful. Against a smart opponent expect to get ***** after losing nana and off the edge.
lol you gaiz... srsly..
lol you gaiz... srsly..
AfroThunderRule
Smash Journeyman
Hello there Choro, working on them Ice Climbers huh. :D
FrozenHobo
Smash Hero
yes i am. i actually played some games last night. i'm working on stopping my smash spamming and side bs. you?
AfroThunderRule
Smash Journeyman
Nothing reall, bored out of my mind. D:
FrozenHobo
Smash Hero
same. i may be going to play some smash later... but thats all i have planned right now.
FrozenHobo
Smash Hero
*everyone celebrates*
DemonicTrilogy
Smash Lord
Whoa... How do you apply to become a debater?
FrozenHobo
Smash Hero
on your user cp, go to social groups. you're on your own after that.
smaci92
Smash Lord
oh yeah...we're all becoming debaters...now, all we need to do is get chibi to be one 
smaci92
Smash Lord
no I can't lol...tomorrow???
for lighter characters like pikachu, you press z and back at almost the exact same time....press z a tiny bit after you push back. when nana grabs, lightly tap the control stick back (just enough to turn popo around) and grab...
if you can do it on pit, you should be able to do it on all medium characters like marth...
for heavier characters, same steps...EXCEPT: the first grab, you have to push the the z button like 0.5seconds later...
smaci92
Smash Lord
yep, that is correct
I guess I just need to practice my bthrows more. I hate having to change my timing for each different character.
Anyways, I don't know why people say cg's are insanely hard. I pretty much figured out the bthrow to bthrow cg on my own in training mode in like 20 minutes.
Anyways, I don't know why people say cg's are insanely hard. I pretty much figured out the bthrow to bthrow cg on my own in training mode in like 20 minutes.
ChibiIceClimberz
Smash Ace
...? They are hard, especially for the people who starts maining the ICs.
If you meant the IC mainers for learning it, then it isn't that hard since we already learned all the basic ones.
So, if you learned most of the basic ones, you'd pretty much learn all the other advance CGs.
**** it...
You can pretty much learn it in 10 minutes by watching the youtube video and practicing in training mode for 5 minutes...? They are hard, especially for the people who starts maining the ICs.
If you meant the IC mainers for learning it, then it isn't that hard since we already learned all the basic ones.
So, if you learned most of the basic ones, you'd pretty much learn all the other advance CGs.
People who say its REALLY REALLY hard either haven't even attempted it, or tried once and gave up.
smaci92
Smash Lord
ya it isn't hard at all to learn. it's just that when people first start using IC's, it's really weird for them to get use to controlling two people at the same time...so then they just give up and never try again. I tried many times to learn IC's, but just kept giving up...but now I forced myself, since I like playing unique characters that can be cheap as hell after you get over the huge learning curve...
JustNoOne
Smash Lord
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I had a hard time Bthorwing everyone expect ROB until Lain showed me how to Bthrow easier
P.S. I got Melee! YES!! but no memory card -.-
JustNoOne
Smash Lord
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What I do is Dthrow to Bthrow or if I want to NT spike them, than I do a Dthrow to Fthrow. The timing is really not that hard and it's ok. I don't know if it's "the best" since sometimes people do different variations of CGs because some people find other CGs easier than others. So it's really whatever works for you, what you feel is easy and easy to consistently do.
smaci92
Smash Lord
hmmm...the timing should'nt be hard for middle weights...you just push the z button a tiny bit later then you would on lightweights...but whatever. My favorite one on medium and lights is bthrow to bthrow, or bthrow to pivot bthrow, or bthrow to dthrow, or bthrow to fthrow, or dthrow to nana bthrow to popo. lol I have to many favorites...=P
magikguy
Smash Lord
uhmmm as the damage goes higher am i suppose to speed up the grab (f-throw chaingrab) ? i really don't understand i can get dk easily from 0-48 dmg then i just cant grab him anymore.
ChibiIceClimberz
Smash Ace
I think the problem why you can't CG over 50% is because probably you're press Z a bit late... a bit early's good so now you can CG over 50%.
magikguy
Smash Lord
alright thanks. How about the back chain throw when is the right moment to press Z i heard its as soon as you press back on the analog stick . So i want to make sure >_>
Depends on the weight of the character.
Heavy = a little after you throw.
Light = almost exactly as you throw
medium = like a millisecond after you throw
Barge beat me to it, but this is what you do. I find bthrows best on lightweights because all you do is press Z fast, no special timing needed.