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PEEF!

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I act like nana doesnt exist, and if she ever arrives at my side, I consider it a victory.
 

choknater

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i am always hella confident in tournys lol

in fact i actually do better against ppl who are better than me

unelss they are confident too and REALLY shut me down

i think the only people who can absolutely maul me are kage and homemadewaffles' fox on a good day, lol
 

choknater

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pretty bad

but im pretty sure we had a close match with ics after that

theres proof on youtube

but u still won

i'll get at u mccain
 

PEEF!

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I'm at ColBols house and I just ***** his fox.


JK! Wow that was rough. Kid is amazing vs ICs.
 

Smasher89

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Hmm, currently thinking about what would be the best anti smashDI up mindgame againt CF from a dthrow. Possibly Dthrow>dair>uptilt works? using the opponents smashDI against them?
 

PEEF!

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Hmm, currently thinking about what would be the best anti smashDI up mindgame againt CF from a dthrow. Possibly Dthrow>dair>uptilt works? using the opponents smashDI against them?
No, theres a choice way better than this.

If falcon DI's up you can just grab him out of the air again
Almost got it!

The best thing to do is dthrow>Charge Fsmash regrab. Just dthrow, and if you can count on the DI up, just charge fsmash, they will fall into it, regrab. 25 damage. 35 with a bliz.
 

Binx

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if they DI away after the throw but before the fsmash it should work because the SDI would probably not put them out of grab range, but its lose/lose for them anyways DI away on the fsmash is the worst possible choice almost always, at the very least it puts them into a tech chase near one of the edges, and possibly WAY offstage, OR they get regrabbed lol, pretty awesome, too bad this only works on fast fallers.
 

Smasher89

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sounds unreliable at low % though :/
I guess it´s a good thing to learn and having goals in practice is something I need, but isn´t it kinda unreliable at low%?
 

Binx

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well yeah fully charging a smash during a grab isn't reliable at low percents, you have to do it at a position where they would set survival DI. You would use it near the edge but not close enough to handoff. Or you could use it when facing away from the edge but still near it.
 

PEEF!

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You don't charge it during the grab guys -__-

You throw, then you start charging immediately. You won't be able to fully charge the fsmash before it hits, but wtf thats like 2 damage you miss out on. You still get like 17.
 

Kyu Puff

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You can't regrab from d-throw (reverse) d-air if Falcon sdi's up. U-tilt wouldn't be reliable either, because if he's mashing the control stick he'll probably get out of the u-tilt. Like PEEF said, f-smash regrab works because the normal d-throw cg works on Falcon.
 

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chok, i'll play peef in a few weeks

then when i'm drunk i'll shout that ain't choknater, modesto too good, where you at drpp!!!! or something lol
 

Binx

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So the other day vs Ganon I canceled my dash with a shield and did an empty belay blizzard out of it to outspace his fair, if used sparingly I feel like this may be a good way to get in on Ganon, or at least put him into situations where he might be forced to jump or roll.

Also I don't think we jab enough, jab leads into like everything, and most people wont CC it if they are moving so its a good way to intercept dash dances without *as much* risk.
 

PEEF!

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Also I don't think we jab enough, jab leads into like everything, and most people wont CC it if they are moving so its a good way to intercept dash dances without *as much* risk.
Trail agrees with you 100%.

Jab>Ftilt catches dash dances very well.

How do you even follow up bliz vs Ganon? They get out like...instantly... I guess wd>Usmash could work...
 

KirbyKaze

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I really like SH Uair against Ganon when he's above you on FD.

I know chain grab is great but if you launch by Dash Attack or something and tick him out of a jump you can just do those weak Uairs until he DIs away and then get under him with WD and use the F-smash's arc to beat anything he does.

ICs have such a good Uair. It's so perfect for combos at like every percent.
 

PEEF!

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does anyone actually autocancel their uairs?

also, how do you use fsmash to beat ganon from above? I know the hitbox goes up there but...hm.
 

KirbyKaze

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does anyone actually autocancel their uairs?

also, how do you use fsmash to beat ganon from above? I know the hitbox goes up there but...hm.
When you're finished juggling a Ganon without a jump, if he's conveniently just above you, F-smash is good because it will come out before his moves do, and it swings above their heads so it will beat his faster aerials (Bair and Uair).
 
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