Social General Ice Climber Chat

[*P*L*U*R*]

Ummm desynch ice blocks?

 

[Binx]

Yeah when I watch the chu vs mango match thats about the only thing that seemed to actually be able to get inside that ball of fluff. Also I would say that to capitalize on grabs properly in this matchup is really hard, I try to sneak in a ftilt and usually dthrow fair and try to get an uair after.

 

[cloudz]

since it's been a few years since I started playing ICEYS again, did we find a use for his d-tilt?

 

[choknater]

i use it for fancy edgeguarding and dthrow dtilt cg's

 

[cloudz]

Low percentages - Wobbles combo: D-throw -> reverse D-air -> Up-tilt -> Up-air/B-air.

If your back is to the edge and Ganon's at a decent percent, just D-Smash or F-Smash after the reverse D-air and try to edgeguard.

Learn the hand-off. Ganon is actually one of the easier characters to do it on since he's so big.

since when do people know how to play ganon right?

 

[cloudz]

i use it for fancy edgeguarding and dthrow dtilt cg's

DOUBLE POST SORRY! whats the dthrow/dtilt chaingrab?

 

[Vanitas]

im also curious about this dthrow/dtilt cg
share your wisdom?

 

[Lixivium]

got 3rd at a TN tournament videos will be up later so might need some advice of how the **** to beat ganon better and samus.

also anyone going to smym11? i'm going to attempt to rep ICs but don't believe i'll get far lol

Is the Ganon and Samus KOKingpin and Ihavespaceballs by any chance?

If so then yeah, Mid-South's a tough region to play IC's. Pick up Sheik or something.

 

[*P*L*U*R*]

ICs dtilt is pretTy much the same as cfs dtilt where its usually used after a throw to make them miss the tech. Its really situational and weird.

Main difference is that cfs dtilt can lead into a kill(knEe/uair) on lots of chars. ICs dtilt doesn't do much past like 50.

 

[choknater]

um dthrow dtilt cg

im sure u guys know the old school chudat dthrow dsmash cg against sheik or ganon

basically using nana's dsmash at the right time during popo's dthrow with no hitstun

its the same thing except using dtilt. less damage but easier to perform.

for some reason the extra hitstun makes it easier to follow DI cuz i have more time to react i guess

 

[ChivalRuse]

What characters does the dthrow dtilt work on?

 

[Vts]

Is the Ganon and Samus KOKingpin and Ihavespaceballs by any chance?

If so then yeah, Mid-South's a tough region to play IC's. Pick up Sheik or something.

yeah but i have more problems with my crew members ganon over KOs.

and i did pick sheik after 2nd match to make sure i won vs ko lol.

but g.vice just wrecks my ICs he is too good my sheik gets him to 1-2 stocks and beats him sometimes which makes me feel good but just recently picked up sheik for peach/ganon/samus match ups.

 

[choknater]

What characters does the dthrow dtilt work on?

any character that u can do regular dthrow cg on

it just adds some damage and extra hit stun on the throw, but doesnt change the trajectory or affect di

unless ur actually hitting with the dtilt, but thats ok u can cg off that too

 

[PEEF!]

Icees boards died yesterday =0

OK, just wanted to give an update. My Icees scored an important victory over a megachuk (shiek). Idk it was weird I was just doing moves and he was getting hit.

I have a problem choking with grabs. My biggest problem being that I can't dthrowdair and use a nana shorthop. WTF I swear. I play fox and have no problem short hopping but i get it like 1/5 with nana...?

Headbutt blizzard is also bein a beeatch. I miss the blizzard or dthrow alot =[

Overall, good first tournament experience with the ICees. Got 9th at VGBootCamp Indianapolis.

 

[ChivalRuse]

Peef, for dthrow SH dairs, remember that you don't have to fast fall or l-cancel Nana's SH. That might make it easier.

For headbutt -> blizzard -> Popo reheadbutt -> dthrow, it's hardest to do when Nana's not near you. Usually I don't do it until I've chaingrabbed at least once, to ensure that she's alongside.

 

[Vanitas]

just a random fact, depending on the version of your melee disk, u can headbutt the person faster while you re blizzard'ing someone in a grab in one version than another version of melee

 

[INSANE CARZY GUY]

PEEF for some people you can full hop and just time the dair I do that on falcon, gannon, and marth. Also the main why I do full hop (I can SHFFL on 2x) is because if I haven't pklayed as the ice climbers in month I can still do the full hop one it has easier timing

 

[Nintendude]

just a random fact, depending on the version of your melee disk, u can headbutt the person faster while you re blizzard'ing someone in a grab in one version than another version of melee

It's faster in 1.0 and 1.1, which have much faster multi-hit moves. It's slow in 1.2 and PAL (includes Player's Choice).

 

[Fly_Amanita]

I won a tournament today. I think this means that the world is going to end soon.

 

[PokemonMasterIRL]

Champs?

Who was there?

 

[Fly_Amanita]

Oh, it was a tourney at UCI. Connor, McCain, and Zhu were there, although I didn't have to play McCain.

 

[PokemonMasterIRL]

You beat Zhu?

O_o



That is awesome.

 

[Fly_Amanita]

Yes, the videos will probably be up fairly shortly.

 

[PokemonMasterIRL]

So Zhu and Connor knocked out McCain? Is there a thread?

 

[Fly_Amanita]

McCain lost to Zhu twice and Connor lost to me and McCain.

The thread is here: http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=265680

 

[ChivalRuse]

Can't wait to see videos.

 

[PokemonMasterIRL]

Can't wait to see videos.

I can not wait to see these vids.

 

[*P*L*U*R*]

Yesssssssss, Fly. Good job!

 

[ChivalRuse]

Fly's my inspiration.

 

[Vanitas]

mad hypeee
Fly is the best IC main? well i believe so

 

[ChivalRuse]

Fly's not far behind Wobbles and Chu. I love his new-school style!

 

[KirbyKaze]

Fly is weird.

Hmm... now that ICs are doing better, I should practice Peach a bit more.

 

[Kyu Puff]

Hmm... now that ICs are doing better, I should practice Peach a bit more.

that's an awful idea...

 

[Fly_Amanita]

I'm gradually getting less scared of Peach. I still suck at protecting Nana and I run into dsmashes that any other sane person would avoid, but I don't just helplessly cower in my shield the whole time anymore.

 

[KirbyKaze]

I'm gradually getting less scared of Peach. I still suck at protecting Nana and I run into dsmashes that any other sane person would avoid, but I don't just helplessly cower in my shield the whole time anymore.

Shielding is so bad against Peach with Ice Climbers

 

[Fly_Amanita]

Yeah, I use platforms a lot more to get out of Peach's way now.

edit: Instead of going Peach against ICs, be cool and do the ICs ditto.

 

[KirbyKaze]

But then how would I effectively counterpick Brinstar?

 

[PokemonMasterIRL]

Make sure to post those vids when they are uploaded Fly!

 

[Turazrok]

My ice climbers suck so badly. How am I better with Fox?????

 

[choknater]

gotta love the peach vs ic's matchup on brinstar

fly is mad good