Why? Dissidia came out in 2008-2009. If this trend continues, Dissidia 3 will come out in 2013-2014.
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General Final Fantasy Discussion - Final Fantasy XII remake incoming!
- Thread starter finalark
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*Tyson*
Smash Ace
Is that all??? I was going directly off what it felt like not actually anything. Well that wouldn't be too bad. It's all relying on IF they were to though.
mystery_dungeon
Smash Journeyman
Gilgamesh may be awesome, but he alone is insufficent. So how bout them alts for...
Bartz/Butz and Exdeath.
Yuna and Prishe.
Bartz/Butz and Exdeath.
Yuna and Prishe.
Jimnymebob
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Bartz is pretty cool, although I'm not familiar with reasoning behind the costume. Is it more like his sprite, because he looks less feminine there?
Prishe looks decent, though I couldn't care less about her, and Yuna's face looks more like Paine's (with a bit of FFVII AC Aerith thrown in) in that screenshot lol.
mystery_dungeon
Smash Journeyman
Yeah, it's more like his sprite when he's
Sephiroths Masamune
Shocodoro Blagshidect
Dissidia 012 Gameplay vids
Kain vs. Golbez http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-Rqi6VQvl4
Laguna vs. Ultimicia http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2QOWLSYc18
Vaan vs. Gabranth http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJqHMo9eheU
Tifa vs. Sephiroth http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqfk0VqFDb4
Yuna vs. Jecht http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7NQdW3TnEE
Firion vs. The Emperor http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRKsyioOCwM
Zidane vs. Kuja http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GN_zrDhIjNE
Lightning vs. Garland http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4W4dczNM2Jc
Wait for it!
Prishe vs. Cloud of Darkness http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vS-_x3jfRZY
Barts vs. Gilgamesh http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4TCqxRehVk
Kain vs. Golbez http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-Rqi6VQvl4
Laguna vs. Ultimicia http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2QOWLSYc18
Vaan vs. Gabranth http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJqHMo9eheU
Tifa vs. Sephiroth http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqfk0VqFDb4
Yuna vs. Jecht http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7NQdW3TnEE
Firion vs. The Emperor http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRKsyioOCwM
Zidane vs. Kuja http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GN_zrDhIjNE
Lightning vs. Garland http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4W4dczNM2Jc
Wait for it!
Prishe vs. Cloud of Darkness http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vS-_x3jfRZY
Barts vs. Gilgamesh http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4TCqxRehVk
StormKnight
Smash Rookie
I have trouble when my opponents use HP attacks in Chase. I always forget to wait before dodging.
finalark
SNORLAX
HOLY **** BARTZ DOESN'T LOOK LIKE A ***** ANYMORE.
He actually looks the way I imagined him to in FFV, **** yeah!
mystery_dungeon
Smash Journeyman
You deserve a prize for that. Your reward, the Excalibur. *hands you Excalipoor*
Which is why if Gilgamesh gets the Excalipoor in his EX Burst, he ends up crying and throwing it at the opponent and yes, it does more than 1 damage.
finalark
SNORLAX
You know, I'm kind of disappointed that they didn't put in Vivi as an additional FFIX character but Gilgamesh makes up for it.
finalark
SNORLAX
This.
Honestly, I'm surprised enough people still play FFXI for Square to keep the severs up.
I'm pretty happy with the new addition as a whole, though. If I had to change anything it would go like this:
FFI: Red Mage
FFVI: Locke
FFIX: Vivi
FFXII: Balthier
Kuraudo
4Aerith
Replace Vaan with Ashe.
Give us Red Mage for the first Final Fantasy. Sweeeeet deal.
[EDIT]
Although I suppose that Lightning behaves much like a Red Mage. Sword/gunplay, white magic, black magic.
Give us Red Mage for the first Final Fantasy. Sweeeeet deal.
[EDIT]
Although I suppose that Lightning behaves much like a Red Mage. Sword/gunplay, white magic, black magic.
finalark
SNORLAX
Eh, close enough.
I want to give FFXIII a whirl but I don't want to spend $30 on a used copy. Plus I really don't have the time for an RPG right now. Once summer rolls around if I can find someone with a copy I might borrow it from them.
Kuraudo
4Aerith
She does fit the bill though. If I had to pick though, a REAL red mage in appearance would be freaking amazing to use.
The closest we get is Cloud in his KH costume via red cape, but he doesn't have healing materia and just uses black magic and swords.
Hint, having an awesome cape means you're one step closer to looking like a Red Mage.
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Though Terra and Bartz use Holy... gdit, there are a few red mages. But Lightning fits the bill the best. XD
The closest we get is Cloud in his KH costume via red cape, but he doesn't have healing materia and just uses black magic and swords.
Hint, having an awesome cape means you're one step closer to looking like a Red Mage.
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Though Terra and Bartz use Holy... gdit, there are a few red mages. But Lightning fits the bill the best. XD
Ryu Shimazu
Smash Master
FF13 is quite amazing in my book. I'm almost done with the game as a whole. (Turtle Farming > 10 last missions> done, lol) It has been a pretty good experience.
I didn't have the patience to run around Pulse doing missions. They were too long and drawn out. I'll probably never go back and do them either. And what are they for? Collecting special items and ****. I beat the game without doing many missions at all, so unless you're an avid completionist and/or collector, I'd advise not doing them as they're truly a giant use of time.
Ryu Shimazu
Smash Master
Well I want all trophies... Plus Fang doing 1.5mil damage is sweetest.
finalark
SNORLAX
I really don't mind things being different, I just don't don't think I would enjoy holding forward for 40 hours.
Although I didn't mind the linearity of FFX, but from what I've read FFXIII is just straight hallways.
EDIT: Oh yeah, and Japan gets FFVI on their virtual console. Lucky *******s.
http://www.gamesradar.com/wii/wii/n...a-20110225155110486006/g-20060308165433320026
Ryu Shimazu
Smash Master
That angers me....and it is not THAT linear..
*Tyson*
Smash Ace
Thank you, someone that sees it like i do. I thought the game was incredibleit is not THAT linear..
finalark
SNORLAX
I think we'll get it eventually. They're just lucky because they're getting it first.
finalark
SNORLAX
Any bets?
I'm guessing either another FF7 character (because we all know how much Square likes to ***** out FF7) or maybe we'll get Vivi.
Maybe. I hope.
I'm betting it's:
Desperado Chaos
This image was found hidden in the Prologus demo by hackers. It is cropped and sized exactly as Prishe and Gilgamesh's hidden images were in the demo. Though I'll have you know that if I could pick any one character from the entire franchise to be the final character, I would undoubtedly pick Odin, though seeing as how the Zantetsuken is one of Gilgamesh's weapons in Dissidia 012, I doubt that'll happen. In particular, I'd want him to be the third FF9 rep, seeing as how he played a minor role in the game as Queen Brahne's method of destroying Cleyra. Plus, this is by far his best design imo:
His story could also involve Squall and Lightning since they have relations with Odin.
Desperado Chaos
This image was found hidden in the Prologus demo by hackers. It is cropped and sized exactly as Prishe and Gilgamesh's hidden images were in the demo. Though I'll have you know that if I could pick any one character from the entire franchise to be the final character, I would undoubtedly pick Odin, though seeing as how the Zantetsuken is one of Gilgamesh's weapons in Dissidia 012, I doubt that'll happen. In particular, I'd want him to be the third FF9 rep, seeing as how he played a minor role in the game as Queen Brahne's method of destroying Cleyra. Plus, this is by far his best design imo:
His story could also involve Squall and Lightning since they have relations with Odin.
mystery_dungeon
Smash Journeyman
And Cecil, don't forget about Cecil. (And Kain to a lesser extent)
OHHHHH MAN.
Can't wait for the American release. Fingers crossed.
Yes it is. But it's still a good game.That angers me....and it is not THAT linear..
Ryu Shimazu
Smash Master
I can see WHY 13 is how it is.
FFXII got so much hate. Lots of hate. Sad thing is, it was amazing to me (besides the end of the game storyline wise..)
It had "too much exploration"..
So, SE went in the opposite direction. They made a game instead of being way open 24/7, it's halfway linear and the other half has some exploration. They also dug way into character development, something they didn't really do in XII.
I think honestly XII/XIII are just both sides of the extremes, but I think XV will be nearly perfect.
I'm farming turtles right now..0/7 on Traps =/
Edit: On another note.. if they bring VI to NA, I'm so getting a perfect file. Ultima spammmm
Black Waltz
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If XIII had a trade system, I would totally give you traps. I've found more traps than I have platinum ingots >.>
Ryu Shimazu
Smash Master
0/12 now..... =((((
finalark
SNORLAX
I really don't see why FFXII gets the hate that it does. "Too much exploration?" What?
Regardless, I rather enjoyed the game. I wish the characters were better developed (because I love the story and the setting) and I wish the License Board was better executed but despite that I thought it was a very well made game.
And I love the dialog, so awesome.
FFXII is easily in my top three Final Fantasies. To date, there are only two other games/series whose worlds I've enjoyed exploring more than FFXII's Ivalice and that's the entirety of the Zelda series and Morrowind. Ivalice was so vast and so varied, and every single region had its own piece of music. It was ****ing fantastic. I felt like FFXII gave me more freedom than any other game in the series; it was almost a sandbox Final Fantasy. The culminative lore was absolutely convincing and infinitely intriguing, cast upon a Star Wars-like story and cast of characters and you've got a guy like me hooked. Unfortunately we got an HD TV while I was playing the game, so when I hooked the PS2 up to it, the anti-aliasing was really hard on the eyes, so much that it rendered the game unplayable. So I never got to beat it. I got a good ways into the game though, so I feel like I at least have a say.
The story sucked. That's the only reason. Everything else was very good.
Here's the difference between Final Fantasy XIII's story and every other Final Fantasy's story. XIII's was a lot like Greek Mythology, whereas all the others are stories about men with mystical elements woven in, even a god or two but half the time, chronicles a mortal becoming that god. In XIII, we see the gods co-existing with humans in the same world(s), and yet having access to more than the average man. Why so many people hate FFXIII's story is because they felt they had no say in it. Even if in every FF before it we ultimately had no say in the main events, we had enough expansive freedom to feel like we were inputing our own decisions. XIII's story gets backlashed not because of the story itself, but because of the accompanying linear structure of the game.
FFXIII was essentially a war between two Fal'Cie nations: those native to Pulse and those native to Cocoon. Their war was not as we understand war; Fal'Cie do not blatantly attack one another. Instead, they use l'Cie to carry out their desires to change and shape the world. But even then, Barthandelus is the only Fal'Cie with a personality even a smidgen similar to a human, and that's because he was created to be such.
What's beautiful about FFXIII is that it teaches us that no matter how grand an imposing foe may seem, no matter how much power they may exert, they can still be overcome. The gods are but mortals as well.
And honestly, while the cast of characters may easily be read as hit or miss, they are also easily the most fleshed out characters in the entire Final Fantasy franchise, period. They were written well enough to feel like actors on screen. And you see, they've received overwhelming criticism because of how realistically they were portrayed compared to characters of past entries. Those who say that characters in FF7 were more in-depth than those of XIII are blinded by nostalgia. The greater the technology, the better you can express human emotion and thus flesh out a character. IMO FFXIII had the best cast. Certainly not my favorite, but given just how they were portrayed, the best. By the end of the game, I understood every character. I may still not like Snow or Hope, but I certainly understand them far better than I understand Cloud, Squall, or Zidane.
So to say that FFXIII's story sucked is a fallacy. Your opinion, sure, but you're probably just pissed off at how the story was experienced over the story itself.
IMO the worst part about XIII was the constant flashing back to that ****ing festival with the big fireworks sphere and that dreadful love ballad pop song to accompany it.
finalark
SNORLAX
He was talking about 12, Spire.