Gears of War 3

[Wretched]

I'd play this game more if it wasn't ruined by the community like all other games.

THE SAWED OFF IS STILL GHEAEY

 

[F8AL]

I'd play this game more if it wasn't ruined by the community like all other games.

THE SAWED OFF IS STILL GHEAEY

I use it. Problem?

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

K/D is not reflective of how much of a team player you are.
Usually I get a 1.0 and half as many kills as whoever has the most kills, but I have HORDES of downs and loads of points from playing objectives and downing people.
You just disappoint me, Ploov.

2.0 K/D is a distinct indication that this guy will not **** you over as a teammate. 1.0 is a crapshoot.

 

[Wretched]

1.0 is average.
I don't think you get how math works, but if your teammate goes neutral in terms of K/D, he isn't hurting the team. The only time a teammate can ever be a detriment in kill based game modes is by going negative. Mathematically, that is how it works.
If you play TDM and everyone goes neutral (1.0) or positive, you win. That is how it works.
Most of the time people with 2.0s steal kills, but hey, he won't **** you over as a teammate, right?

 

[Sinister Slush]

My internet maybe bad and I lag at random times, but even I can tell when i'm dying in BS ways.

"What's that? wallbouncing skills and not dying even though three of my teammates have chased you around Sandbar twice already and are shooting you with gnasher/Lancer? HOW ABOUT I SAWED OFF YOUR ****!"
This is basically what happened to me the past hour I played TDM earlier today, people with bad aim missing me and never downing me until someone with a Sawed off literally just runs past the teammates basically saying "I got this" ignores my point blank shots and walks away with a kill.

I hate being the Last man standing... Not even level 40 and I think I have around 60+ of that ribbon already. (just got the Played 100 TDM ribbon so that's kinda alot)

/venting

 

[The Real Gamer]

1.0 is average.
I don't think you get how math works, but if your teammate goes neutral in terms of K/D, he isn't hurting the team. The only time a teammate can ever be a detriment in kill based game modes is by going negative. Mathematically, that is how it works.
If you play TDM and everyone goes neutral (1.0) or positive, you win. That is how it works.
Most of the time people with 2.0s steal kills, but hey, he won't **** you over as a teammate, right?

It's just common sense, dude. Better/more consistent players have higher K/Ds. A team with more consistent players = the winning team.

If I had to choose between a guy with a 1.5 K/D and another with a 2.0 K/D I'd choose the one with the 2.0 in a heartbeat.

Oh and a flat 1.0 K/D in Gears is actually considered pretty bad. I'd say somewhere around 1.3/1.4 would be considered average skill.

 

[SnackAttack]

Pluvia hates me.

 

[ThreeX]

My K/D is bigger and better then your K/D.

 

[o-Serin-o]

Add meh...

XxSteadyEddyxX

We all need to play together sometime.

I'm xSerinx. Just add me if I never get around to adding you.

My K/D is bigger and better then your K/D.

Goddamn you, Deeeeejay, I added you earlier so I could play Gears 3 with you when it came it. And when it came out, you just decided to up and delete me

 

[WindMajor]

My K/D drops every time I decide to play alone, which is all the time. It's currently at 1.8 now, along with my win/loss.

Also, K/D doesn't define how much of a team player you are. K/D only reflects how many kills one player makes over his deaths. Saying that him having a 2.0 K/D makes him a good team mate is misleading.

Some qualities to being a good team player involve you have to have great communication skills (going both ways), have good team coordination/execution, and practicing proper discipline when following orders (don't act out of place). K/D doesn't directly reflect any of this because a guy can have a K/D of 3.5, but play selfishly. He could also have a K/D of 3.5 but have a W/L of 0.5, because he simply steals kills or makes bad decisions that drag down the rest of the team.

Anyways, I look at my K/D, and although I'm sort of discouraged by it, it doesn't bother me that much, because I know my strength isn't shown through K/D. IMO my biggest strength is being a good team player, and a decent strategist. I specialize in controlling and maintaining power positions (I stay in cover a lot, basically), I spot everything, I assist more than I kill because of the lancer, and IMO, my communication skills are above average.

K/D won't recognize any of that. It will only recognize individual battles, which aren't my forté.



Oh, and a K/D of 1.0 is very low, IMO.

 

[Pluvia]

K/D is not reflective of how much of a team player you are.
Usually I get a 1.0 and half as many kills as whoever has the most kills, but I have HORDES of downs and loads of points from playing objectives and downing people.
You just disappoint me, Ploov.

With so much downs you should have a similar K/D. Downing people but then leaving them to stand up isn't helping your team.

And if you are in a match full of kill stealers then you're unlucky. I tend to find a majority of people leave kills/are too slow to steal your kill and if anyone does manage to steal mine, deliberately though, I leave them next time they get downed.

But for most people a high K/D goes hand in hand with a high W/L. While it's good to play objectively it's not really going to help that much if you can't protect the objective at the same time.

 

[Wretched]

Maybe you guys don't get the math...
A 1.0 K/D IS TECHNICALLY THE AVERAGE BECAUSE FOR EVERY KILL THERE IS A DEATH.

 

[F8AL]

I consider myself a team player in all video games.

Pluvia and Twinkie can vouch for me.

 

[Master Xanthan]

Maybe you guys don't get the math...
A 1.0 K/D IS TECHNICALLY THE AVERAGE BECAUSE FOR EVERY KILL THERE IS A DEATH.

The point that Pluvia and TRG are trying to make is that they want teammates that do consistently well, meaning that person's k/d would most likely be higher than a 1.0, they don't want average, they want good.

 

[F8AL]

The point that Pluvia and TRG are trying to make is that they want teammates that do consistently well, meaning that person's k/d would most likely be higher than a 1.0, they don't want average, they want good.

They play to win, like me.

 

[The Real Gamer]

They play to win, like me.

This is why I've always liked you, Tim.

 

[Pluvia]

All fortifications fully upgraded in Horde now. Except for Silverback, which is still only 1/3 through level 1.

Edit:

So I finnally managed to track down the list of future DLC characters that was briefly on Youtube a while back:

[collapse= MASSIVE SPOILERS]Big Rig Dizzy
Minh
Savage Bolter
Onyx Theron
Farmer Dom
RAAM
D. Carmine
Theron Sentinel
Bai Tak
Armored Kantus
Savage Cyclops
Pendulum Marcus
Bernie
Thrashball Drone
Skorge
Pendulum Bernie
Barrick
Palace Guard
Gold Armor RAAM
Tai
Pendulum Hoffman
Michaelson
Alex Brand[/collapse]

Here's a pic of one of the characters on that list. People think this may be the skin you unlock for The Impossible Mission event that's coming up:

Spoiler

 

[Fuelbi]

I don't know why but I find myself disappointed at the lack of a Carlos on that list. I mean Pendulum Bernie and Marcus made it, and Commando Dom is an MP character as well. Seems weird to leave Carlos out of the list. Especially since he's way more important than characters like Palace Guard

I mean even Bai Tak made it in and he wasn't even the most important part of the pendulum wars, or at least way less important than Carlos

 

[SnackAttack]

Thrashball Drone all day.

 

[ThreeX]

All fortifications fully upgraded in Horde now. Except for Silverback, which is still only 1/3 through level 1.

Edit:

So I finnally managed to track down the list of future DLC characters that was briefly on Youtube a while back:

[collapse= MASSIVE SPOILERS]Big Rig Dizzy
Minh
Savage Bolter
Onyx Theron
Farmer Dom
RAAM
D. Carmine
Theron Sentinel
Bai Tak
Armored Kantus
Savage Cyclops
Pendulum Marcus
Bernie
Thrashball Drone
Skorge
Pendulum Bernie
Barrick
Palace Guard
Gold Armor RAAM
Tai
Pendulum Hoffman
Michaelson
Alex Brand[/collapse]

Here's a pic of one of the characters on that list. People think this may be the skin you unlock for The Impossible Mission event that's coming up:

Spoiler

I saw that list also! The thought of having my boy cyclops along with pendulum hoffy got me too excited. It's almost as if it's too good to be true. I'll have my fingers crossed until then

If T-ball Drone is true, I think epic needs to make a thrashball gametype ASAP using thrashball drone+cole

 

[Pluvia]

Surprised that guy from Bulletstorm isn't on that list.

On a different note, for those of you that want to know, to full upgrade all your fortifications in Horde you need to invest:

Sentry: 135000
Barrier and Decoy: 170000
Silverback: 200000
Turret: 360000

 

[F8AL]

This game's spawns are terrible. Was playing with Fuelbi earlier on Oldtown and our entire team spawned on the beach side, we had spawn protection and fighting the other team near there. Then they spawned in back of us. =/

 

[Fuelbi]

For some reason it's a great idea to spawn us on a beach when 5 people are heading at it at once, then make other people start spawning right behind us a minute later, have me notice they were there, shoot at him, and die because he had a spawn shield

If the spawns weren't so ****ed up on this game they wouldn't actually need to put in spawn shields now would they?

 

[MuraRengan]

Epic has a knack for doing all the wrong things, gameplay wise. I'd really like to meet whoever designs these spawns.

 

[Sinister Slush]

I hope I wasn't the only one that noticed "D. Carmine" I thought the last carmine was a Sergeant named Madison Carmine

 

[Wretched]

There is going to be a fourth gears of war.
It is hinted in GoW2.

 

[Pluvia]

No Ben mentions he has 3 brothers.

It was obvious that they were going to begin with D, seeing as though the Carmine's have gone A, B, C.

The trilogy had concluded now. If the Gears universe does continue it will be in prequels, hence the end to GoW3.

 

[Sinister Slush]

Not sure if serious...
I only played the games like most people, but glimpsed at I think 2 of the comics. (Since I found it at a Local Heroes and Fantasies around last year)
Where on earth does it say "Oh we're working on GoW4!" Unless they pull a Bungie and make this so called "Trilogy" into having 6 more games.

Oh here we go, Issue #10 and #11 I bought.

EDIT - @Pluvia: according from A gears wiki (I know, wiki and stuff...) Madison was the 4th brother that was the same rank as Marcus. No squad and other information given though.

 

[Pluvia]

Madison is a girls name, and if people guessed that C Carmine was going to be the 3rd on then it's pretty obvious that D is the 4th.

 

[Wretched]

In Gears of War 2 while Marcus, Dom, and Carmine are having a conversation, Marcus says "are you related to Anthony" and Ben says "Yeah, there are four of us."
I've heard nothing of this Madison considering the Carmines have thus far gone in alphabetical orders (Anthony, Benjamine, Clayton, D____)
If anything, I'd guess that since epic doesn't have their **** together that Madison might be related, but not be the fourth brother. He could be an uncle or even their father for all we know, because Epic did the same thing that the makers of Lost did: They didn't create a full story line. If they did, Marcus's father would've played a much more significant role in the story of the other games and Myrrah wouldn't have been such a hot *****. myrrah is super hot
If they wanted to develop the story better, they would've hinted in GoW2 that the Locusts are being affected by the immulsion and being forced from underground. Furthermore, how the **** would they not realize that their main source of fuel for the entire world was an infectious and cancerous parasite?
The story is nice, but poorly structured, so we shouldn't take any fragments of information from Wiki seriously. We should draw our own logical solutions.

 

[Sinister Slush]

The story is basically another Zombie game.

Also, I knew of Ben discussing his other brothers. But how does that mean a 4th one is indeed going to be made?
Meh... I guess time will tell, no way EPIC can end with just Bulletstorm.

EDIT: Don't feel like making another post, But Madison can be given to a male as well... Like most names in this world.

 

[Fuelbi]

Carmine specifically mentions before he dies in Gears 2 that he has more siblings, them being Clayton and apparently D. Carmine as well

As for the names, Madison could very well be an aunt or mother or something. Doesn't have to necessarily be a sibling that they have. Besides, Madison is a girl's name, and I'm 99% sure Ben said that he had brothers not sisters. I really hope Epic ends up releasing info on whether or not he ends up living through the course of the war, because I really don't want to hear that D . Carmine lived as well. I only want to leave the living to Clayton and that's it.

Also, Lost sucks ****

 

[Pluvia]

If they wanted to develop the story better, they would've hinted in GoW2 that the Locusts are being affected by the immulsion and being forced from underground. Furthermore, how the **** would they not realize that their main source of fuel for the entire world was an infectious and cancerous parasite?

To be fair we saw since Gears 1 that the Immulsion affects the Locust. And then in the 2nd you drop into a war between the Locust and the Lambent, and when you kill a Lambent it's blood moves across the ground in a cutscene and everyone points it out.

 

[Wretched]

Obviously raw, combustible fuel would affect any species, but Epic had no plan to make immulsion such a huge part of the story.
It is the driving force behind EVERY SINGLE PART OF THE STORY. It also completely contradicts the original message of human greed from the origin of the story. Myrrah was supposed to be invading earth because of how horrible humans are, but in the end she was just trying to save her species.
What a

Spoiler

horrid ending. LETS KILL ALL OF THE LOCUSTS AT ONCE. LETS **** THEM OVER. The locusts were just trying to survive.

 

[Master Xanthan]

Obviously raw, combustible fuel would affect any species, but Epic had no plan to make immulsion such a huge part of the story.
It is the driving force behind EVERY SINGLE PART OF THE STORY. It also completely contradicts the original message of human greed from the origin of the story. Myrrah was supposed to be invading earth because of how horrible humans are, but in the end she was just trying to save her species.
What a

Spoiler

horrid ending. LETS KILL ALL OF THE LOCUSTS AT ONCE. LETS **** THEM OVER. The locusts were just trying to survive.

Yeah, they tried to survive by killing lots and lots of humans. Also how do you know imulsion wouldn't be a big part of the story? Did you develop Gears of War? They may have wanted to make the imulsion's influence subtle in the first one and then have its role escalate in the 2nd one.

 

[Wretched]

Epic isn't full of geniuses.
Why in the world would they purposely develop a story poorly?

 

[Fuelbi]

I'm going to say it and that's that I really did end up feeling bad for the Locusts in the end. Idk, I think there could've been a better option besides just killing them all as well as the lambent. I mean it's really unfortunate that all the locusts got mixed up in all of this and I don't know why Adam wouldn't just come out with it and tell Lalyell about the locusts and at least PREPARE the troops and resources in advance before E-Day like for real why wouldn't Adam say anything?

And come on, it's not like the lambent weren't shown before Gears 2, I mean you face a ****load of lambent Wretches no?

Btw why does Myrrah look so human? She looks like the offspring of a human and a locust or something. I mean aren't all locusts supposed to be ugly as sin or something? I'm surprised they're following her orders to begin with considering her appearance


And I think the reason they used imulsion to begin with as a driving force for the entire story is to detail something about how oil will kill us or something and some mumbo jumbo of how the US should get the **** out of Iraq or something

 

[Wretched]

There are a lot of loose ends, but I think that the case is that Myrrah was disgusted with humanity, so she led the Locust ranks.

Wait... Who is Marcuses mother?
WHY WAS ADAM SO SAD WHEN SHE DIED
AUHGUGHUUAHUHG

 

[Fuelbi]

Marcus's mom was some scientist who while going down underground to find a crystal for the lens of some weapon which I think was the Hammer but I'm not sure died

And asking why Adam was so sad for her death is like asking Dom why he was so devastated over Maria, or for that matter, asking any guy why they're sad that they're wife just died

Well it's been known since the second game that Myrrah has known Adam so to me it seems like they planned out a lot of the stuff in this game. Also the locust never actually stated their reasons for attacking the humans. It was even stated that they don't move or think like humans in battle and that they never actually attacked humans for resources like food and etc, so it could've also been that they were waiting till the end to finally come out with what they were fighting for

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

All of this storyline information that I don't care about. We'll have an E-Day Gears game and a Pendulum Wars Gears game. I'll play both campaigns, then ***** about the multiplayer and play the game for three years. If I want more, I'll read the books.

Anyone up for a game?