Ganondorf's Video & Video Critique Thread [Current Critique - MBmoney]

[Ray_Kalm]

I'm gonna add a ranking list to the opening page, and put all the people who had critiques, from best to worst. Sound like a good idea?

 

[joyce]

HI this is my Ganondorf combo "trailer"
hope you enjoy =)

watch in HQ:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmM5tkGwirE&feature=channel_page

comment and rate

 

[Squirrely]

I don't think ranking people from best to worst is a good idea.

I'm not even sure how that would work with a thread devoted to correcting people's mistakes and making suggestions towards improving their game play.

Also, I'll edit this after watching kosk's video, though knowing him, I won't have much to say. :-/

teh editz:
Pit missing grabs in general, especially the forward throw chain grabs.
Could've just finished the game at 3:50 with ledge hog or any move but the dash attack you did.
I'm surprised your down-b worked against pit's u-air at 6:05, that normally gets out prioritized for me...
Also, I'm confused why the pit tried to d-tilt spike you whenever you were recovering. Arrows and hogging is the way to go.
Nothing really much to nitpick, post more vids of you losing.

 

[ShinGaruda]

I've been using standard attacks more than fsmashing, and I'm getting great results. Thank you for your help, A2ZOMG.

 

[Ray_Kalm]

Super Ganon Time

Some amazing stuff.

Ganon Items Combo - 0:40-0:45 look's so hot. 4:30 onwards is just torture.

 

[stRIP]

Ganon Items Combo - 0:40-0:45 look's so hot. 4:30 onwards is just torture.

http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=233840

*needs attention*

 

[Z1GMA]

Ganon Items Combo

2:02 - 2:14 feels creepy familiar..

 

[Ray_Kalm]

A month old, but what the heck.

I could use some critique. I have some stuff going for me, but I'm not all that good.

Here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIWxfpSlckA&feature=channel_page
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nlHPpOdoZ4s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5MwNPXSUZk - Sped this one up to make it look cooler.

 

[PK-ow!]

It says the second one's been removed by the user.

And you $%&# boned the one in the first vid. What is there to critique?

I'm afraid I can't watch the third one, as I just can't get anything out of it; I can't see what the Olimar was even doing - given that's hard to do under the normal conditions.

 

[Z1GMA]

Match #1 - I like the Utilt at 1:18. You did a good job not getting grabbed.

 

[A2ZOMG]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hOF2P-xvRTc&feature=channel_page
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VruRddkGKb0&feature=channel_page

These are matches vs me and Kalm.

I know there are a few moments where he tried too hard to punish G&W's Smashes aggressively. Anything else you can point out?

First match you posted: Solid. Most of the mistakes you made were being too aggressive on the last stock. Also, you should have done a F-tilt or even a Jab from that Flame Choke.

 

[Ray_Kalm]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hOF2P-xvRTc&feature=channel_page
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VruRddkGKb0&feature=channel_page

These are matches vs me and Kalm.

I know there are a few moments where he tried too hard to punish G&W's Smashes aggressively. Anything else you can point out?

First match you posted: Solid. Most of the mistakes you made were being too aggressive on the last stock. Also, you should have done a F-tilt or even a Jab from that Flame Choke.

Weren't those matches months ago? Like, they're really really old, I've improved a lot more since then.

 

[A2ZOMG]

Weren't those matches months ago? Like, they're really really old, I've improved a lot more since then.

Yeah, I know. It took me forever to upload those matches.

If that's the case, I look forward to rematching you. I just need real access to wifi...don't have that for my Wii right now.

 

[xXTACXx]

Here is a set I did against my friend. My Ganon vs his Lucas. Enjoy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hiuLXazTa-4

 

[Z1GMA]

Double post

 

[Z1GMA]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hOF2P-xvRTc&feature=channel_page
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VruRddkGKb0&feature=channel_page

These are matches vs me and Kalm.

Judging by how Kalm handeled his RCO lag at 3:55 -to 4:05 in the first vid, I can tell these matches are old.

Further more, there was no "WoK" what so ever, no mindgames and poor DI to his Ganon.

 

[A2ZOMG]

I like 3:24 a lot in the first vid. Because of how well I predicted that roll lmao.

 

[Ant1]

I can't watch those vids coz im at uni and don't wanna blow quota. But if i see flame-choke to d-tilts, im gonna go crazy.
Obviously wi-fi makes it possible, but its so unrealistic, i played m bro and he always rolls out be4 it hits him, even when he's playing G&W.

I got an awesome replay lately on wi-fi where it ganon comboed this guy into oblivion. Combo's do exist in brawl i tell ya1

 

[Z1GMA]

But if i see flame-choke to d-tilts, im gonna go crazy.
Obviously wi-fi makes it possible, but its so unrealistic, i played m bro and he always rolls out be4 it hits him, even when he's playing G&W.

... Gerudo -> Dtilt is easier to perform offline.
Just Gerudo and GENTLY tilt down on the controlstick and press A, m8 :]

 

[Ant1]

... Gerudo -> Dtilt is easier to perform offline.
Just Gerudo and GENTLY tilt down on the controlstick and press A, m8 :]

as i wrote in the other thread , all attempts to make the d-tilt connect failed, buffering etc (read my other post) didn't work. This was on vs G&W mind u.

I may put a video up showing it not working. Now this may be because the Australian version of brawl is different.

 

[Ray_Kalm]

as i wrote in the other thread , all attempts to make the d-tilt connect failed, buffering etc (read my other post) didn't work. This was on vs G&W mind u.

I may put a video up showing it not working. Now this may be because the Australian version of brawl is different.

The only possible things that could be different in other versions of brawl, are the sound effects, and the voices, nothing else.

 

[Z1GMA]

as i wrote in the other thread , all attempts to make the d-tilt connect failed, buffering etc (read my other post) didn't work. This was on vs G&W mind u.

I may put a video up showing it not working. Now this may be because the Australian version of brawl is different.

That's werid. have you tried putting Dtilt on [C-stick down] ?

 

[Ray_Kalm]

That's werid. have you tried putting Dtilt on [C-stick down] ?

I wouldn't recommend that. Especially since that'll cancel your abiltiy to momentum cancel.

 

[Z1GMA]

I wouldn't recommend that. Especially since that'll cancel your abiltiy to momentum cancel.

Well, I ment just so that he can see that it IS garanteed.

 

[@HomE]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cykxr6Fg7nY&feature=channel_page

here is a 2 v 2 i have, its really the only recent match i have uploaded so far, i should have at least 1 or 2 1v1's up sometime in the near future (I hope)

There is a pretty nasty kill towards the end

 

[Z1GMA]

Here is a set I did against my friend. My Ganon vs his Lucas. Enjoy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hiuLXazTa-4

I love when Ganon KO his opponents on his way back while recovering, like your KO at 5:53 .

 

[Sukai]

Rate my n00b ganondolf plox.
i need crittik.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpBIKRFHGhI&feature=channel_page

 

[Marcbri]

R1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUH-PpLy_WY&feature=channel_page
R2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-LtsQsv_Xo&feature=channel_page
R3 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNI3z6HYrgM&feature=channel_page

A friendly set with my bro ( ok he's not very good ) but I think they are fun to watch, especially second and third match. I almost don't play ganon but some advide is appreciated =D.

 

[Z1GMA]

R2: 0:36 - 0:40 actually had a touch of sexyness to it, even though a Gerudo techchase often leads to better options.

 

[A2ZOMG]

Here is a set I did against my friend. My Ganon vs his Lucas. Enjoy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hiuLXazTa-4

Ur Ganon is good. Just never do the Quake pls. And of course the usual don't do dumb crap like suiciding lol.

 

[xXTACXx]

Ur Ganon is good. Just never do the Quake pls. And of course the usual don't do dumb crap like suiciding lol.

I fiqured the quake was good. It always makes my opponents DI towards me, well almost always. Dtilt doesnt set up for good kill combos as well i find, but you are right you most likly know a lot more than me about the king. Please don't ask about the suiciding lmao I pretty much never suicide. I guess I was tired or something that day

 

[Z1GMA]

Connecting Quake as a bait... Interesting, Iv'e never thought of the Quake as a bait

At low %'s you ALWAYS get punished for it when the opponent comes down.

But at high %'s the Quake sends them up higher. And 99% of the SSBB community most likely know how terrible the lag of Quake is, so they'll defenitly try to punish you, most likely with a powerful and laggy attack. But since they were launched higher in the air than usual (their high %) you might just get time enough to put up your shield, and then punish their laggy attack with a Ftilt in the face, which would kill them since they were at very high %.

...... Now I'm overthinking stuff again, am I not? >_>

I will try this Vs my friends.

 

[xXTACXx]

Connecting Quake as a bait... Interesting, Iv'e never thought of the Quake as a bait

At low %'s you ALWAYS get punished for it when the opponent comes down.

But at high %'s the Quake sends them up higher. And 99% of the SSBB community most likely know how terrible the lag of Quake is, so they'll defenitly try to punish you, most likely with a powerful and laggy attack. But since they were launched higher in the air than usual (their high %) you might just get time enough to put up your shield, and then punish their laggy attack with a Ftilt in the face, which would kill them since they were at very high %.

...... No I'm overthinking stuff again, am I not? >_>

I will try this Vs my friends.

Go ahead and try it. If you notice your opponent Airdodging a lot then chances are he will air dodge right into a grab after the quake. Or even better a Fsmash . Notice how I tried Ganon Punch lmao faillll.

 

[A2ZOMG]

The quake is technically inferior to any of Ganondorf's follow ups...just saying. Less damage and slower than D-tilt.

 

[xXTACXx]

The quake is technically inferior to any of Ganondorf's follow ups...just saying. Less damage and slower than D-tilt.

Oh I didn't think it was slower >.<. I still stick to whatever I think is right in the match. Quake has always worked for me ill just try to stop using it the next couple of days and see what a differnce it makes in my Ganon.

 

[Z1GMA]

Ok, I tried the Quake as a bait at high %'s.

Summary: It sux...

 

[@HomE]

I have several replays I want to put up but i have no way to upload them..

Would anyone be able to capture and upload some replays for me if i could send them to them?

 

[Squirrely]

I could probably do that if you'd like.

 

[Ijosh]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=en5oiviZxgs

 

[Squirrely]

I tend to only critique *close* matches or losing matches.
Otherwise, what's there to talk about.

I stopped after the first one because it wasn't close at all and you won.
And you're not Ray Kalm. What was the point?