Ganondorf

[NitrusVirus]

Honestly I'd kinda like it he had long hair like in OoT

**** I never thought of that. His future OoT self would look rad as **** in HD.

 

[GetBentSaggy]

Give his jab the same length the Warlock Punch had.
Make it the speed it was in Melee.

Keep his sparta kick, just make it half the speed it currently is (like another user suggested). That was one of Ganondorf's most vital moves.

 

[Z1GMA]

Honestly I'd kinda like it he had long hair like in OoT

Red Dreads <3

 

[Z1GMA]

Not to forget that big, brutal nose of his:

His nose in TP and Brawl is just wimpy:

He almost look... polite.

 

[IsmaR]

Pig nose is the only acceptable/cute one.

 

[Z1GMA]

 

[TheSqushiestManatee]

I hope he doesn't use a sword. we have enough sword users as it is.

 

[Z1GMA]

I hope he doesn't use a sword. we have enough sword users as it is.

That's a bit harsh, it is.
I admit I wouldn't want him to use his sword for everything, like Marth.
But it'd be sweet if he used it for like 4 or 5 standard-attacks.
The rest of his standard-attacks would be brutal punches, kicks, etc...

 

[-TAG-]

I'm all in favor of de-cloning Ganondorf, replace most of his moves to include his swordplay he's been displaying for the last few games he's been in. Maybe include some moves that use dark magic as well.

 

[SchAlternate]

Ganon should have a weapon. But not a sword, oh no no no...

He needs a TRIDENT!

 

[Priap0s]

Just completed Wind Waker HD 100% (with all figurines even!). I had almost forgot how wonderfull that game is, probably my favourite game in the Zelda-series, close followed by Majoras Mask. But I didn't bring up my re run off wind waker to brag (just a little). It's because a new character for my ssb4 "want list" just popped up: Phantom Ganondorf!

Okey, it might be a bit off since he has only appeared in one game. But the character in itself isn't what makes me want him, it's the fight style. Some sword attacks, the magic shots (one powerful lightorb that can be hit back and one that shoots several small homing red/black orbs), teleporting and creating illusions of himself. I'd be 100% okey with it just being part of Ganondorfs moveset (the illusions could look like phantom ganon).
I think phantom ganondorfs fight style is a perfect fit for a smash (or any other fighting game tbh). Would love to see some of it used. Either on a new character or as part of Ganondorfs new moveset (Cause he will have one, right?! )



Edit: As this Ganondorf thread has alot of pages someone might have brought up phantom ganondorf before. If so I appologize for just repeating what has been said and will just say that I agree with the guy who did!

 

[Cookiemonsta]

Warlock punch should have super armor so hes not such a sitting duck. The move would get more usage that way and it would at least limit the opponents options down to grabbing him out of it instead of just doin literally anything to disrupt it. Also the sword ideas need to stop lol

 

[SchAlternate]

I've been thinking of some possible palette swaps for good ol' Ganondorf...

 

[FalKoopa]

I've been thinking of some possible palette swaps for good ol' Ganondorf...

At first glance, I though he was Roy. :alugh:

 

[TheSqushiestManatee]

The purple color looks sick. I want a purple color for ganondorf in ssb4.

 

[grizby2]

Ganon should have a weapon. But not a sword, oh no no no...

He needs a TRIDENT!

I REALLY hope we get trident ganon

Keep his sparta kick, just make it half the speed it currently is (like another user suggested). That was one of Ganondorf's most vital moves.

HALF the speed? like making it slower or faster? I mean.. I don't think its that slow, in fact I think its one of his most balanced moves the way it is actually.

 

[Zigzagar]

I would want to see more radical changes to Ganondorf:
I want a trident over a sword and some magic based special moves to represent what he actually does in Zelda games

 

[TeamFlareZakk]

I don't see why not give him the trident, freaken Phantom Ganon uses it in OoT, so it wouldn't be a bad idea for Ganondorf to use it.

Don't forget the taunt where he twirls the trident around, better than that thing he does with his fists, guys the yeah look at my sword taunt wasn't too bad, I liked looking at that sword, it's just that it was a trolling taunt saying haha can't use it.

 

[Kamiko]

That sword taunted us more than the opponent.

 

[The21stSmasher]

Oh, Man! I really hope that he makes a return to Smash! Hopefully he's not gonna become the most useless character in Smash 4 just like they did in Brawl... ugh. I really hate Brawl's Ganondorf.

 

[TumblrFamous]

In light of an intense Ganondorf debate on the Roster Prediction Thread, I have made a moveset for good old Ganondorf.

Spoiler

·Ground Moves
oNormal Combo- (Ganondorf creates a fist of dark aura and punches straight)
oSide Tilt- Sparta Kick (Keep as is)
oUp Tilt- Volcano Kick (Same as before, but sucks people in more effectively and faster overall)
oDown Tilt- Dark Sweep (Sweeps the floor underneath him, great range and great startup for combos)
oDash Attack- Holds his sword and jabs opponent while dashing)
oUp Smash- Din’s Power (Creates a mystical dark fire in his hand and hurls it up above him)
oSide Smash- Warlock Cutter (Ganondorf hurls his sword over his head, smashing the ground)
oDown Smash- Sacred Seal (Thrusts sword into the ground, creating a small shockwave around him)



·Aerials
oNeutral A- Dark Inferno (Ganondorf becomes cloaked in a mystical dark fire, damaging anyone near him)
oForward A- Desert Slam (Punches forward, great horizontal knockback)
oBack A- Coated Blade (Backswipes with his sword)
oUp A- Sage Blast (Shoots a blob of darkness into the sky above him)
oDown A- Shadow Plummet (Kicks the opponent with the bottom of one foot, acts as a meteor smash)

·Grabs
oGanondorf grabs his opponents with his shadowy fist
oPummel- Mystic Light (Zaps a foe)
oForward Throw- Wizard Thrust (Throws opponent away like a rag doll)
oBack Throw- Backward Kick (Kept the same)
oUp Throw- Dark Force (Throws opponent up high into the air, best killing grab move)
oDown Throw- Ground-Shaker (Kept the same)

·Specials
oNeutral B- Dead Man’s Volley (Creates a Ball of Electricity and hurls it at an opponent. This move is chargeable)
oSide B- Flame Choke (Kept the same)
oDown B- Gerudo Fist (Similar to Bowser Bomb, Ganondorf leaps up and comes crashing down with a magical fist, creating a shockwave around him)
oUp B- Levitation (Ganondorf levitates in the air…)

Other changes I would like made to him is better speed and mobility. He doesn't need to be super fast, but fast enough that he isn't a laughingstock in the roster. Look at the new Bowser in SSB4, how he runs. Speed similar to that. His jumping ability should be improved to be slightly better, and his recovery should be improved as well, as it is one of the worst. His grab reach should be improved and made faster.

His body type would set him back, though. Being a character that is large and heavyweight, he will be easily chaingrabbed and combo'd. Other than that, this increase of mobility and a new projectile should help him greatly.

 

[HarryTheChin]

SSB4s current confirmed roster is lacking some villains.

I expect either Ganondorf or Zelda to be revealed sometime soon.

 

[TeamFlareZakk]

SSB4s current confirmed roster is lacking some villains.

I expect either Ganondorf or Zelda to be revealed sometime soon.

Or maybe even Walink.

Seriously, yes I too expect to see Zelda or Ganondorf soon.

 

[Kamiko]

I'm expecting Zelda first, but if Luigi and Peach are anything to go by we could easily see Ganondorf shortly after.

 

[Diddy Kong]

Honestly doubt Ganondorf will use a weapon this time either. Read a description about his moveset a little while ago in the Project M section where someone said : 'Ganondorf fights like a beast in a man's body'. I think this totally fits his character. And besides, his attacks with the sword are kind of generic anyway. It's not like his Twilight Princess boss battle was anything too interessting to write a whole moveset with. Also, how would one justify his strenght with all the range he'd have?

Personally, I just want the Warlock Punch to dissapear, and turn into... Something. Down B to, but the move should be somewhat like MetaKnight's Down B I feel. And some other moves I'd like to see changed are his Neutral Air and Smashes. Mostly his Forward Smash though.

Am skeptical Ganondorf will ever not be a Luigified Captain Falcon-clone honestly. But am just hoping for a little more personalisation this time...

 

[SchAlternate]

Except Ganondorf is not a brute, savage beast, but a more composed, stoic man that has great skills in both magic and weaponry.

He could also use a trident instead of a sword, which gives him longer range, but the hitbox that is closer to him (the trident's pole) deals more damage/knockback than the tip.

 

[Morbi]

I honestly don't want too much to change, I wouldn't be opposed to it either, but I think he is fine the way he is.

 

[Diddy Kong]

Except Ganondorf is not a brute, savage beast, but a more composed, stoic man that has great skills in both magic and weaponry.


He could also use a trident instead of a sword, which gives him longer range, but the hitbox that is closer to him (the trident's pole) deals more damage/knockback than the tip.

No that would make him Roy and that would make him suxballz.

And I don't want a suxballz Ganondorf again.

He's pretty much a brute though. He's not as strategic as you give him credit for, as he clearly underestimates Link all the time.

 

[Sharkarat]

Seriously, just make the warlock punch an electric projectile or something. It would make it better and also fit Ganondorf better.

 

[Diddy Kong]

Make it the 'waves of darkness sorry I can't help you Link' thing he did in Ocarina of Time. He makes the same sound in Melee anyway.

Also, look at this official artwork for Ocarina of Time:

It's clear that Ganondorf is going physical against Link there. And Link isn't too keen on getting hit by those damn muscular arms either. I'm more open to leaving Ganondorf more as a more Luigified C.Falcon clone...

 

[Deleted member]

I'd say he should keep the style that he was given (hand-to-hand knock you the **** out), but be less Falcon.

Instead, he needs to be more Akuma.

 

[low tier user]

Hey maybe he can switch to his sword by taunting and hav a 2nd fighting style.

 

[TumblrFamous]

I hope he has some changes, but I'm giving it a 50/50 chance. I'd be fine if he didn't get a HUGE overhaul, but I want him to change in some ways.

 

[Diddy Kong]

I'd say he should keep the style that he was given (hand-to-hand knock you the **** out), but be less Falcon.

Instead, he needs to be more Akuma.

Actually. Yes. Why the **** not?

 

[low tier user]

At first glance, I though he was Roy. :alugh:

Yeh I thought so too and maybe he could switch fighting styles with his sword taunt

 

[TumblrFamous]

Yeh I thought so too and maybe he could switch fighting styles with his sword taunt

I doubt they would waste time giving a character two movesets. Sure, they did it with Zelda, Samus, and the Trainer, but that made sense. For Ganondorf, it's one or the other.

 

[SchAlternate]

I'd say he should keep the style that he was given (hand-to-hand knock you the **** out), but be less Falcon.

Instead, he needs to be more Akuma.

That's exactly what I want his Down Special to be like.

But I still want a trident.

 

[GetBentSaggy]

That's exactly what I want his Down Special to be like.

But I still want a trident.

A good way to incorporate that Akuma attack to Ganon with a trident is:
Ganondorf could stab his trident into the ground he stands on and create the same effect

 

[SchAlternate]

But then we couldn't say it's based on that ground punch from Ocarina.

I mean, I want to have him use the trident in most of his attacks, but not all of 'em, especially his special attacks.

 

[insomniac19]

I'm kind of hoping for Ganon to have his OoT design again. It was just more...well Ganondorf. Plus dat nose tho. And a more round, stubby Twilight Princess Ganon doesn't really scream "all-powerful dark lord" to me.