Noa.
Smash Master
Dair only works to punish a telegraphed usmash of Olimar.
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Really? I usually do well against Olimar on BF.I told you guys Olimar was hard lol.
I think it's 6:4 overall, maybe 55:45. Some stages Olimar loses bad on, while others he clearly wins. Starter stages are all in his favor.
I just did this last night once in a few friendlies and this is quite effective when pulled off. Even though it was like 1 in the morning I knew I did it for sure. It pretty much rendered Olimar helpless for a while; he tried down Bing the pikmin back but it didn't work.Also if you up-B his Pikmen and don't kill them with it(the up-B), you'll shoot them in the air for about 10 seconds and he can't call them back or pick new ones out(if he has a full hand)
Why would you do it in his shielding range? If you're in that range, you should probably Jab, grab, or get ready with an aerial.Dtilt vs Olimar... is a lot better on paper than it is in real gameplay.
If Olimar shields Dtilt, you are screwed. He can outrange you with his grabs, so really the only thing Dtilt is good for is to swat away his Pikmin in his other attacks. Aside from that, it doesn't do much.
What you do is you is basically N-air whenever he shields or whenever he's camping with Pikmin or of course when he whiffs something else and you have an opening to punish...he really shouldn't be given time to run around with impunity. It's all about your spacing honestly...there is a way to space outside of where he can punish you easily as long as you're careful.SH Nair is also not really that good on Olimar, he can run under you before the Fish travel down the sides of the bowl and Usmash. He can also Upb depending on where he is positioned and flat out beat you with it. I've also seen Olimar get a bit gutsy and Fair JUST before G&W's Nair would cover him from the sides well and knock him away. It looks alright on paper, but it doesn't allow G&W to approach him any better than normally.
I'm pretty sure this type of question belongs in the "Ask a simple question, get a simple answer" thread.so whos the best G&W? would it be OBM?
You would have to be able to measure every player's ability to know who excels above the rest. I'm pretty sure that is something pointless that most people wouldn't be willing to do. If anything, we do have a G&W discussion backroom that is made of G&W players that have contributed to the advancement of G&W's meta game. Also, wouldn't credit for being good be the prizes you win in tournaments or simply the fact that you are able to beat your opponents?Ok, a few things wrong here...
1. why not have some sort of recognition for those who excel above the rest with G&W? that makes no sense... Not to be mean but last time a checked people like Corey deserve the credit for being as good as they are, so yeah in terms of not needing it why not?
The answer to your question simply is a matter of opinion. The "Ask a simple question, get a simple answer" thread is the place where you can try to discuss that type of opinion.2. if my question was simple? why wasnt it answered... I myself am a G&W player so there must be some of us who are curious.. otherwise I wouldnt have posted... Not to be mean but thats just how I see it.
I don't think anyone here yelled about a post being out of place. But people do want to keep the forums in order since it makes it better to find the information you need. This thread is about matchup discussion, for example. So UTD Zac just tried to direct you to a more correct location to get your answer.3. I love how people constantly yell when a simple question or post is out of place... I am not asking for much time or thought needed... just a general opinion... I see OBM posting these things and it seems that some G&W players are definitely more respected than others... almost nobody has ever heard of me, yet I have mained G&W since 5 weeks before brawl was even out in america...
We do give our recognition when necessary, but not in the same way other character boards do. We don't need to put a person above our community like some kind of messiah, there are other ways of showing recognition. If anything, our community should be equal, excelling in different areas, but working for the same goal.Ok, a few things wrong here...
1. why not have some sort of recognition for those who excel above the rest with G&W? that makes no sense... Not to be mean but last time a checked people like Corey deserve the credit for being as good as they are, so yeah in terms of not needing it why not?
2. if my question was simple? why wasnt it answered... I myself am a G&W player so there must be some of us who are curious.. otherwise I wouldnt have posted... Not to be mean but thats just how I see it.
3. I love how people constantly yell when a simple question or post is out of place... I am not asking for much time or thought needed... just a general opinion... I see OBM posting these things and it seems that some G&W players are definitely more respected than others... almost nobody has ever heard of me, yet I have mained G&W since 5 weeks before brawl was even out in america...
Hmmm, whatever.
Anyhow, I'm still on Olimar. I played Richbrown some more, who is one of the best Olimar's in my area apparently. Seriously...DMG...you're crazy if you're not spamming SH-N-air in this matchup. It's really good. It stops his camping, and it's not easy for him to punish as long as you space well.
The main thing that surprised me in this matchup was D-throw ->Up-smash -> U-air -> Up-B. Either I need better DI, or it just means don't get grabbed at low percents. But really...the premise of this matchup is pretty simple as long as you space N-air and D-tilt, and throw out B-air to counter anything else he does.
Also...Falco does have major trouble killing you if you're on the defensive. He can't combo into his Up-smash at KO percents (even laser -> Up-smash is easily shielded). His F-smash is slow. His D-smash has terrible range (and is weak). His B-air doesn't work when you're properly spacing.
I guess IC's have an advantage over almost every character since they can pretty much 0-death them in chaingrabs if that's what you're trying to tell me. From matches I've watched, ICs have a hard time grabbing G&W. G&W shouldn't get grabbed out of an approach like turtle if it was spaced correctly since IC have among the worst grab ranges.Ice Climbers - 60/40
IC's? Really? IC's grab G&W, he's dead. He's incredibly easy to CG, and even you do get a chance to break away, next time you're grabbed, over 30+ damage, you aren't getting out. You can't camp against IC's, eventually a desynced blizzard is going to get you. Theres really not much G&W can do here except hope to CP a good stage.
Lain is my experience, the best of the best.G&W's properly spaced B-air, his Jab combo, and his Smashes can't be shieldgrabbed, so hmmmm...
G&W isn't that hard to grab. What defense does he have? And even if he is "hard" to grab, IC's will kill G&W if grabbed. Theres no maybe about it. Heavy characters have a better chance of grab breaking.I guess IC's have an advantage over almost every character since they can pretty much 0-death them in chaingrabs if that's what you're trying to tell me. From matches I've watched, ICs have a hard time grabbing G&W. G&W shouldn't get grabbed out of an approach like turtle if it was spaced correctly since IC have among the worst grab ranges.
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=224189Whos a good alt. for GaW? Sorry I'm too lazy to look through the whole thread to look, but don't say Falco or I'll play Snake and Marth vs all of you.