Anyway
I have caught up now.
Inactives are, by my count, FroMarsh, Kafkaesque, and...who? I've seen everyone post with a consistent capacity recently now that Joey has finally arrived so I think that's enough to put either of them aside for the moment.
As my other head has said, he likes Zen, Joey, and Scary. I can agree on Zen. While I have my differences with Zen's approach to the game of mafia on a whole, I can at least see his actions to some degree and certainly can't see how they benefit scum.
I do also like Joey. The claim that his thinking only applies to the surface level seems wrong because as far as I (Xatu) remember Joey, his thinking has rarely if ever gone beyond the surface. This may have changed since I've really played a game with Joey but I don't understand the complaints against him. It seems like normal Joey but also one that's consciously trying to at least read people at a more objective level.
I don't agree nearly as much on Scary though. I don't think Scary's scum, I just think his reactions are typical of a newbie. Rake thinks that his OMGUS vote is a textbook newbscum thing to do but honestly I've seen every newbie do it when facing pressure in a game like this. It's typical, it's natural, and it's obvious. You're activating the fight-or-flight instinct and he chose to fight you, because all you were saying was "lol this guy's scum". The one thing that does give me pause is how he double-backed directly afterward as I don't think he understood that the case was merely for pressure. I want to see his actions a bit more before I legitimately say he's one alignment or another, however, but not under a microscope like that. I honestly think it's easier to see the alignment of a newbie when they aren't put in the heater and expected not to mess up as every single one of them will.
Kantrip and Ruy I like.
Rake...I don't know. I think he's a town-lean now. A couple of pages ago, I didn't like his mechanical reasoning (still don't but then Rake seems like the player to do it now in hindsight because he doesn't understand what it is), but then Xatres pointed out that Scary was targeted for his freshness to the game and that his case was for pressure and to see what type of interactions he'd garner, my brain clicked back on and I thought about it. I don't necessarily care for his rambo tendencies and I think he needs to pick better targets because really you're not gonna get a good reaction from a newbie in a game like this, but outside of that, I can at least see where people are coming from. I am having indecision, however, but I overall think he's okay.
My other head dislikes FroMarsh and I can see where he's coming from. He's jumped around, rolled his eyes when we tried to prod him, and then called people out for poor reasoning on having Joey as town. I know it's FrozenFlame and that it's also marshy but I really don't care as much about legacy as you guys. Guy's gotta do something at some point and if we're failing to give Kafkaesque a free pass, I don't see why we would give that slot one either.
Xatres needs to do something soon and I really do not remember Sokr.
So I think that I'm starting to dislike Xatres. I read Zen's post, understand his direction, and agree with it. I need to give that slot more attention.
vote: Sokr
. IDK why you and Ruy are trying to turn what I think is scummy about you is your activity. Activity Johns have nothing to do with it. There was no reason for you to ask that question without reading the game, for the reason I already said for one. For two because you could have been asked questions already within those 6 pages. Why ask without looking first to see if there are already questions there? (Rhetorical). And for three what kind of town player asks others if they have questions for him? There's no town intent in that. Pure scum intent. (That intent being to look townie).