Pretty sure I'm not scum lol.
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Rake, I thought you'd explain, but why are you being such a moron this game? It's like you're not doing anything except getting butt devastated when people won't follow your pointless and completely idiotic wagon. What on earth did Scary do to make you want him dead that badly?
It wasn't moronic, it had very legitimate reasoning, I pushed to pressure him, and get a reaction out of him and the rest of the players.
I made a semi stretchy case, with things that I had taken as scummy and pushed him on it, but now because player's like you and MB have decided to interfere and ruin the interaction between Scary and myself, I'm forced to find other methods of reading him. You want town intent ? How about : Based on scay's reactions, being a new player, it'd be really obvious really fast where his alignment's lay, and we could either not have to worry about him for the rest of the game, or have to deal with him. But please, use less brain function to not consider this angle, explaining it to you is exactly what I want to be doing right now.
Rake what on earth. "Check his reply to see why he's scum" If you were literally doing nothing except calling me scum for no reason, then I'd think you were playing scummy as well. Nothing is wrong on Scary's part so far. Do you really think town that isn't used to playing with us would just sit there and be like "Yup. This is all null. There is no way this could mean anything"? No. He's going to get flustered, and he's probably going to backlash at you. It's null. Move on. I would like to see why Scary tried to justify his Rake vote as anything more than a "Rake is being a moron and doing absolutely nothing except pushing me" type of thing.
I didn't say reply, I said reaction, and his backlash I didn't perceive to be very townie, I understand a newer player may backlash, but scary CHOSE to scum read me for my actions on him, instead of doing something as simple as keep pressing me to why, or calling my reasoning bs, but he didn't, he chose to insta scum read me in return.
Why should me being a "moron" make me scummy ? You'll notice he could never explain that when asked, his entire scum read on me was fabricated BECAUSE i called him scum, not because of what I was doing, both me Kantrip and Zen all pressed him to make the distinction of why my logic was bad, or what made me scum for it, and he never could. Why ? Because he had no reason except that I had called him scum. This is classic OMGUS and much above the level of newbie OMGUS.
214 What newb scum tells did he drop? OMGUS? With how hard you're tunneling, it's null. Try again please. His first reaction was hilarious. It just seemed like a silly way of saying why. But then your **** push happened. What on earth are you expecting? Seriously? Vig please off this guy.
No, it's not null, because clearly you don't understand the differentiation between him OMGUSing me, and his
INTENT to OMGUS me
"Classic newb scum tell, trying to come in and joke off baseless pressure to appear townie" can easily be "Classic newbie play, wondering why in the hell a third of the lynch is on him before he even got into the game", and literally everything after that is you being a complete moron and **** to scary and him getting upset because you're literally doing nothing worthwhile except pushing him. Do you REALLY expect him to just ignore you when you're almost a fifth of the thread and you're just saying "he's scum" and "join my wagon" over and over? Do you REALLY expect him to not think you're scummy when this is all that you're doing? Please. Get over this case. Find some decent reasoning behind your push please. Please start to have some common sense. Please. Please please please please.
Really love every slot making excuses for Scary instead of letting him respond himself.
No, i don't expect him to ignore me, but I do expect he'd actually have you know, more than "Your being a moron"
Why is that scummy ? I'll even tell you the answer, it's not, in any way, scummy for how I approached him.
284 is me in a nutshell except I'm null on Zen and town reading MB. Throw Sokr in the town leans and Ryu in the town leans and you have my read list so far.
Why do you town read MB at all ?
Rake jumps on Sokr. Scary wagon 2.0 a go-go?
No, this one's actually more legitimate in nature, Sokr's dropping a couple scum tells I remember from Rajam's FF mafia, and I didn't like his transition to scary much either.
Why would you just say it's a pressure wagon when Sokr literally hasn't even gotten to respond yet? Why are you using that to convince people? I don't even, Rake. Literally scary wagon 2.0
Saying it's pressure doesn't ruin the pressure, I also held my cards closer to the chest on what I was pressuring on to gauge interest , but now I've had to spell it out to you.
Plus, i never said it was only pressure, I only stated that to gauge the response to it, again, I was trying to hold some of the real reasoning back, but it can be more public now I suppose
Rake, you're just being ignorant here. There is nothing in the OP that states "You must know x and y before joining a game", and even then, it's no guarantee that he would know everything. You're pushing off of assumptions and it's disgusting. Why are you still on this? I understand that you were asked about it, but please just say that it was stupid of you and move on. It's absolutely horrid. :|.
I expect him to know how to play mafia, that is noit unfair of me, newbies may not totally prepare you for the game but they certainly teach you basics. I assumed only that he had played mafia, nothing else. It wasn't stupid, it achieved almost exactly what I wanted it to, sadly before it could climax, MB had to interfere.
Rake pretty much just voted Sokr and continued to pressure Scary. Really? You got me excited for nothing </3. Was excited to see something interesting from you on a push that isn't Scary.
My pressure on Scary is passive nwo, it's much more of a IGMEOY, and in fact, I've almost completely dropped the scary scum line due to a newb town tell that I'll hold closer to my chest for now so that I may completely gauge Scary before writing him off as a non scummer.
You should be excited , the Sokr angle hold's much more legitimate water.
Vote: Rake
Throwing my vote here is pretty obvious at this point. Your Scary wagon was ****, and your whole "vote Sokr with me for pressure! :D" was even worse, and the worst of it all? Right after throwing your vote on Sokr and asking for more votes on him, you don't even pressure Sokr. You just talk about Scary being scummy some more (after asking him to join your wagon and asking to alliance with him). Yeah. I can not see ANY town intent in this whatsoever. Literally none.
Why is any of it scummy though. Your basically callling my play antitown without any differentiation as to why that play is scummy. Antitwon =/= scummy by any means.
The wagon was not ****, you just need to have intelligence to understand why I did it, thankfully player's like Xat aand myself can spell it out for the rest of you.
My continued pressure on Scary was to let him be aware that I'm still watching him, how he reacts to me and knowing this will be instrumental in my securing a read on him. People were stil asking about him, so I kept talking about what I disliked, he had been aa scum read of mine, why would I not lay out my POV to see what people think on it ? That would be idiotic of me in the first degree.
And yes, me and him have our alliance, why should that stop me from being wary ?
I had actually quite a lot of town intent in playing as I have, it just required thinking about it a little. I know swf town hates doing this, but I hold out hope that one day, people will use their brains when they play this.