Fourth and final community vote about Meta Knight.

[Sage JoWii]

I realize that Kirby isn't THAT bad of a match-up like some other characters, and I'm not saying it's impossible. I'm just saying, why? Why should the focus of Brawl tournaments be to overcome MK to win.

 

[Suspect]

i always thought it was about who can camp better...

 

[Kewkky]

I realize that Kirby isn't THAT bad of a match-up like some other characters, and I'm not saying it's impossible. I'm just saying, why? Why should the focus of Brawl tournaments be to overcome MK to win.

That's another pro-ban argument that no one wants to argue anyway. People will just reply with "it's been answered before" or that "in Melee it's who overcame Fox/Sheik/Marth/Jigglypuff (now)".

I agree with you though, that's why I'm pro-ban.


And if you're saying "Why?", I'm guessing it's rhetorical.

 

[Red Arremer]

We don't even count for that. At absolute best, (this is saying everyone voted ban, 100%) we count for 26 votes, aka, 1/4 of the SBR-B. We get one SBR vote for 50%, then an extra vote for every 2.5% after 50. So we get 2 now, maybe 3 if we get a uge influx of proban. It's not happening.

And before anyone says anything, I'm proban.

No. It's 21 votes. =)
1 vote for the victory.
Up to 20 votes, with 1 additional vote for each 2.5%

 

[momochuu]

Ehh...you guys are stubborn. He's not getting banned. Stop arguing. Just pick up MK for the MK ditto. Looks like a large majority of the community did that once they realized MK getting banned isn't going to happen.

 

[Sosuke]

Listen to KawaiiBunny.

 

[Kewkky]

No. It's 21 votes. =)
1 vote for the victory.
Up to 20 votes, with 1 additional vote for each 2.5%

That's a pretty cool way of adding votes from the community.

Ehh...you guys are stubborn. He's not getting banned. Stop arguing. Just pick up MK for the MK ditto. Looks like a large majority of the community did that once they realized MK getting banned isn't going to happen.

I already main Kirby, it means I'm on the right track...

 

[Suspect]

i like seeing IC mains wanting mk banned lol...

 

[SoupaSonic]

I'm starting to think that Meta should only be banned in Winners Finals-Grand Finals, I think it would make at least some people from both sides happy.

 

[Red Arremer]

That's a pretty cool way of adding votes from the community.

Well if one side gets over say 10 votes, it pretty much settles everything. Since the community is vastly split, it won't have that much impact on the SBR poll.

 

[Kewkky]

I'm starting to think that Meta should only be banned in Winners Finals-Grand Finals, I think it would make at least some people from both sides happy.

If anything, it should be the other way around. Doing well the whole tourney only to end up against your *possibly* worst MU at the end does not a healthy community make.

And it's not a good idea, sorry.

Well if one side gets over say 10 votes, it pretty much settles everything. Since the community is vastly split, it won't have that much impact on the SBR poll.

I see. And yeah, if a side ended up getting 10 votes, then the banning of MK should've been unanimous, since the vast majority of the community wants him gone. Since the community is split almost evenly, then we just end up contributing to the actual voting going on in the SBR as (a) separate vote(s). That's pretty cool.

 

[Sage JoWii]

So everyone understands that in order to beat MK you might as well pick up MK? I've lost all faith in diplomatic reasoning.

WELL. I can't just give up on this argument, so I'll add another point to the debate. Pro-life, or pro-choice. ARGUE THAT!! XD Catch peeps at Oh Snap5 where I'll be maining Kirby, oh wait,...where I'll be maining MK.

 

[Tarmogoyf]

Ehh...you guys are stubborn. He's not getting banned. Stop arguing. Just pick up MK for the MK ditto. Looks like a large majority of the community did that once they realized MK getting banned isn't going to happen.

I Picked him up (sorta, NM bans him) after Genesis, when I saw MK losing to themselves, and played 3 MK is brackets after getting out of pools.

No. It's 21 votes. =)
1 vote for the victory.
Up to 20 votes, with 1 additional vote for each 2.5%

My math is bad. The point is that it's minimal.

i like seeing IC mains wanting mk banned lol...

Uh, MK protects ICs. He is closer to neutral for us than a lot of characters, and he kills Rob really hard, who is horrible for us, and he keeps some Snakes, and GaWs down, n addition to wrecking Marth. Mk helps ICs.

But, I care about the health of the game more than I care about the viability of my main.

 

[Gichan]

Yeah, this is sad. MK continues.

 

[Red Arremer]

My math is bad. The point is that it's minimal.

It's minimal if it's only a small margin. Why is this bad? If one side only has a small lead, why should they gain a big amount of votes the SBR poll?

 

[Tarmogoyf]

It's minimal if it's only a small margin. Why is this bad? If one side only has a small lead, why should they gain a big amount of votes the SBR poll?

Wait, aren't there like 100 people in the SBR-B? Meaning we could be 20% in a perfect scenario? Or didn't everyone in the SBR-B vote?

 

[BBQTV]

sup im someone who didnt read the op

sup im just going to post my thoughts

sup

thats pretty much everyone i saw the op though

 

[Red Arremer]

Wait, aren't there like 100 people in the SBR-B? Meaning we could be 20% in a perfect scenario? Or didn't everyone in the SBR-B vote?

There are roughly 100 people in the SBR, however, some of these people did not and won't vote.
That includes SBRoomers who are neutral on the matter or feel they shouldn't vote because of several reasons.
Currently, about 70 people have voted on the SBR poll. I doubt the amount will change much anymore, maybe by 2-3, I'd say, at most.

In a perfect scenario, the public poll would weigh more than 20% - if all 100 SBRoomers would've voted, it'd be 21%, for once - and considering the absent people, a perfect scenario would end up with a bit more than 25% weight for the public poll.

 

[Darxmarth23]

At top level play Metaknight is not a big problem.

And lower level play he is ****** the scene. Playing Mk is fun, and I do win tourneys with him, but the margin in between him and the rest of the cast is just a bit too big.

The spam wave is a big problem.

 

[Sosuke]

I thought there were like, 20. >__________________>

lol

 

[AvaricePanda]

Hopefully all the alt accounts are taken out before the poll is final.

WHICH SIDE HAD MORE ALT VOTES??? EPIC RACE TO THE FACTS GOGOGOGOGOGOGO.

 

[momochuu]

Yeah, they're gonna look at the votes and find the alts. The vote is probably going to be much different.

 

[M-WUZ-H3R3]

Yeah, they're gonna look at the votes and find the alts. The vote is probably going to be much different.

I'd love to see how many people actually tried to sway the results with an alternate account.

Do you usually filter the results on major polls, and if so, what do you usually find?

 

[MarKO X]

Ehh...you guys are stubborn. He's not getting banned. Stop arguing. Just pick up MK for the MK ditto. Looks like a large majority of the community did that once they realized MK getting banned isn't going to happen.

Just the MK ditto?

I'm starting to think that Meta should only be banned in Winners Finals-Grand Finals, I think it would make at least some people from both sides happy.

lolwut

Yeah, they're gonna look at the votes and find the alts. The vote is probably going to be much different.

with over 3000 votes... I might be sensing sarcasm....

 

[BBQTV]

I'd love to see how many people actually tried to sway the results with an alternate account.

Do you usually filter the results on major polls, and if so, what do you usually find?

i thought it was fair what a bunch of cheaters i dont want MK bannd but i would not cheat shame on those who cheated.

 

[Tarmogoyf]

Hopefully all the alt accounts are taken out before the poll is final.

WHICH SIDE HAD MORE ALT VOTES??? EPIC RACE TO THE FACTS GOGOGOGOGOGOGO.

Lol, ven if one more side had more alt votes, it could be 1 or 2 people spamming alt accounts.

Yeah, they're gonna look at the votes and find the alts. The vote is probably going to be much different.

This is good.

There are roughly 100 people in the SBR, however, some of these people did not and won't vote.
That includes SBRoomers who are neutral on the matter or feel they shouldn't vote because of several reasons.

Points to these members.

Currently, about 70 people have voted on the SBR poll. I doubt the amount will change much anymore, maybe by 2-3, I'd say, at most.

THats what I'd assumed.

In a perfect scenario, the public poll would weigh more than 20% - if all 100 SBRoomers would've voted, it'd be 21%, for once - and considering the absent people, a perfect scenario would end up with a bit more than 25% weight for the public poll.

Ok. Obviously a perfect scenario would never happen anyways.

It seems mostly fair, but IMO, the 50% should have like 3 instead of one, because the winner accounts for about 5%, and the community is worth more than that. As it is, the community is worth their margin of error between itself (5%)

 

[Melomaniacal]

Just the MK ditto?

There are certainly better options for Snake, Falco, Wario, DDD, and Diddy (and more!).

 

[Dark 3nergy]

Yeah, they're gonna look at the votes and find the alts. The vote is probably going to be much different.

are they gonna punish people for using alt accounts?

i would

 

[Sinz]

The problem is, that there are siblings who have accounts. :/

 

[nfl797]

I was agenst the BAN but after readign this and watching some videos
IM VOTING.... BAN

 

[Red Arremer]

The problem is, that there are siblings who have accounts. :/

That's why I'd be for filtering out all accounts that have been made from the date of the poll until its end.

 

[momochuu]

Do you usually filter the results on major polls, and if so, what do you usually find?

There haven't been many important polls besides this one. xD If you mean the three polls before this one, if anyone tried to make alts to change the percentage in their favor, they need help.

Just the MK ditto?

I mean, some people would still like to use their main. =S

are they gonna punish people for using alt accounts?

i would

Probably not. Unless they're in the SBR or something. I dunno.

 

[Dark 3nergy]

There haven't been many important polls besides this one. xD If you mean the three polls before this one, if anyone tried to make alts to change the percentage in their favor, they need help.



I mean, some people would still like to use their main. =S



Probably not. Unless they're in the SBR or something. I dunno.

**** this forum needs to be more strict, especially on bad posting

 

[JUDGE]

Hopefully all the alt accounts are taken out before the poll is final.

WHICH SIDE HAD MORE ALT VOTES??? EPIC RACE TO THE FACTS GOGOGOGOGOGOGO.

i don't think that the votes of the alt accounts counts much on thr final decision...

 

[Dr. Tuen]

curious, will the filtered results get posted at some point in time? I'm interested in the results after alts are removed.

 

[FOXYB]

If MK gets banned, i know that smash will become alot easier. and boring

 

[FOXYB]

are they gonna punish people for using alt accounts?

i would

whoever used an alt account should get banned not MK

 

[Sosuke]

Smash is already easy and boring

Edit: LOL, FOXYB is a pretty cool guy.

 

[javado]

Wow, you pro ban people who want to ban metaknight are ******s, this is just a fun game turned bad by tourney***s and whatnot with safe options, counterpicking, metagame , and other made up tactics.

I'm ok with people having a big amount of love for the game, but this is going too far and is turning this into another Smash Bros Melee with regular tournaments turning into *** drags.

 

[BBQTV]

the poll has made sasukebowser emo.