Floating Point Collab Thread (NOW ALL FLOATS, NOT JUST ARTICLES!) (Homing Attack!)

[[TSON]]

It's an external graphic effect.

 

[E-Jolteon]

So, Dantarion, I have a problem with OpenSA2.

I can't open anything. The program crashes right after I try to open any file, edited or not. I've tried Dedede, Sonic, Ness, Kirby, and Mario. All crashed. I'm using Windows 7 64-bit.
Does anyone use Vista or 7 here, without any problem?

Edit: I was able to successfully open Luigi. I tried Mario again and it still crashed.

 

[Dantarion]

Its gonna be unstable as hell for a while, especially while I am tweaking Article parsing. Basically, youre gonna have to deal with it, go on IRC, report the bugs to me, and I might be able to fix them ASAP.

My current testing horrors are Link, Kirby, TLink, and Samus, and to be honest, I push builds out without testing them all the time.

 

[pikazz]

need some help now D:
how can I edit "pikachus thunderjolt" in airs movement? and hex out pikachus "thunderjold" to make it his own article instead for sharing thunderjolt in air's article (so far I know)
and hex pikachus thunder horizontally instead for vertically ? D:

 

[[TSON]]

You cannot separate articles.

You will need to experiment to do the rest of the things you are asking about.

 

[Dantarion]

TSON.
Soon im going to need help figuring out the article data for all characters.
No more guess and check finding them though XD
SOON

 

[[TSON]]

Sure, no problem

 

[SSJ4Kazuki]

ROB:

Weak laser: 188f0

 

[pikazz]

need some help and I think I will write it here
If I wanna hex an article (like marios fireball and pikachus thunderjolt). which file should I hex?
and what should I looking for after the article? I mean, its much numbers XD

 

[[TSON]]

FitPikachu.pac or FitMario.pac.

 

[Dantarion]

TSON, use latest OpenSA2.

Look at the article tab. Should have accurate data section for ALL ARTICLES.

 

[Kirk]

My mind just got blown.

Some of Snake's articles...have their own articles.

The mortar launcher is an article of snake...but the mortar missile itself is an article of the mortar launcher.

"YO DAWG, I HERD YOU LIKE ARTICLES SO I PUT ARTICLES IN YO ARTICLES SO YOU CAN HEX WHILE YOU HEX"

Too ****ing good.

 

[Eldiran]

My mind just got blown.

Some of Snake's articles...have their own articles.

The mortar launcher is an article of snake...but the mortar missile itself is an article of the mortar launcher.

"YO DAWG, I HERD YOU LIKE ARTICLES SO I PUT ARTICLES IN YO ARTICLES SO YOU CAN HEX WHILE YOU HEX"

Too ****ing good.

That's... amazing. Snake would.

Also, for Brawl-: the mortar or Nikita should explode into a shower of grenades. (Because now that I'm thinking about articles spawning articles, all I can think of is grenades spawning more grenades...)

 

[[TSON]]

TSON, use latest OpenSA2.

Look at the article tab. Should have accurate data section for ALL ARTICLES.

Dude wtf lol, amazing work. Should make hexing easier and more fun. :3

 

[Dantarion]

My mind just got blown.

Some of Snake's articles...have their own articles.

The mortar launcher is an article of snake...but the mortar missile itself is an article of the mortar launcher.

"YO DAWG, I HERD YOU LIKE ARTICLES SO I PUT ARTICLES IN YO ARTICLES SO YOU CAN HEX WHILE YOU HEX"

Too ****ing good.

However, when an article spawns an article, its the same as a character spawning it, in terms of the article ID. Mario's FLUDD generates FLUDD shots in a similar way.

 

[[TSON]]

Wait, how do you read it? Say I'm looking at Lucario's shots. I see 0000000 @17ECC [0]

I know [0] is the order of them, but what do I goto in the hex editor? 17ECC? That's a hex number in that word, not 9.8 in FP. :I

 

[[TSON]]

New stuff.

Lucario FPs

17f5c - Non-Fully-Charged Aura Sphere Wiggle intensity?
17f60 - Non-Fully-Charged Aura Sphere Wiggle something?
17f68 - Aura Sphere Base Growth Size? (Smaller = Bigger)
17f6c - Aura Sphere uncharged size (bigger = bigger, will automatically scale to base size after being charged a bit)
17f70 - Aura Sphere chargelevel 1 size (bigger = bigger, see above)
-skips a bit due to repetition-
17f88 - Aura Sphere fully charged size (see above)
17f8c - Unknown. Probably has something to do with aura sphere damage/stock growth

 

[Kirk]

Ice Climbers

16690 - Ice Block Offensive Collision
==Floating Points==
16720 - 3FC00000 (1.5) - Starting Horizontal Velocity(before touching ground.
16724 - 40400000 (3) - Block Velocity on ground? Friction? Lower number = slower on ground.
16728 - 00000000 (0) - Untested.
1672C - BE4CCCCD (-0.2) - Gravity/Accleration up/down. Negative number = falls down.
16730 - BFD33333 (-1.65) - Unknown.
16734 - 0000001E (30Hex) - Unknown.
16738 - 00000014 (20Hex) - Untested.
1673C - 0000000A (10Hex) - Untested.
16740 - 3F7E76C9 (0.994) - Size Growth Rate. Less than 1 = shrink, greater than 1 = grow.
16744 - 3F7DF3B6 (0.992) - Damage Growth Rate. As above.
16748 - 00000078 (120Hex) - Something with Knockback? Lower number is less flinch over time.
1674C - 000000BE (190Hex) - Ice Block Duration - 20 frames.
16750 - 3F4CCCCD (0.8) - Unknown.
16754 - 3E800000 (0.25) - Unknown.
16758 - 3E6147AE (0.22) - Unknown.
1675C - 00000006 (6Hex) - Unknown.
16760 - 00000005 (5Hex) - Untested.
16764 - 400CCCCD (2.2) - Untested.

170B8 - Blizzard Offensive Collision
==Floating Points==
17178 - 40333333 (2.8) - Increased Range? Particle Speed?
1717C - 3E000000 (0.125) - Higher number = Curves hitboxes upward
17180 - 42340000 (45) - Higher number = Hitboxes fly in a straight line, lower number = sporadic angles.
17184 - 42C80000 (100) - Lower number = Hitboxes fly downward angle, Higher number = sporadic angles.
==END Floating Points==

Not really an article, but...

166F8 - Squall Offensive Collision

And if you want Nana stuff, I can post that too...though technically not articles.

 

[[TSON]]

I'll format that for the OP and add it in a bit

 

[Dantarion]

Don't post nana stuff unless you have weird offsets not found by OpenSA2.

 

[[TSON]]

I wish there was an easy way to find the bone the article is attached to... Or if someone would explain the equation " [[[0x64] + ([0x68] * 0x4) + 0x80] + 0x80]" for me <_>

 

[Eldiran]

I wish there was an easy way to find the bone the article is attached to... Or if someone would explain the equation " [[[0x64] + ([0x68] * 0x4) + 0x80] + 0x80]" for me <_>

I don't actually know how to work that equation either, even after finding Ganon's sword bone... basically, you should just muck about around the article's offset given by OpenSA2.

Here are some example offsets of bone locations for you to figure out the general format:

Here should be the locations for Mario's Cape and FLUDD

0x1E38C - Cape(root = 0x1E384)
0x1E490 - FLUDD(root = 0x1E488)

Cheers.

Ganon's sword bone offset is this: 21CD3

 

[E-Jolteon]

026A2F = Toon Links Boomerang bone

A small contribution, but I'm doing something.

 

[[TSON]]

added~

10 glyph

 

[Eldiran]

Peach's Toad bone:
1D2FF

Normally at 65, the value for RHaveN.

 

[Dantarion]

Wait a sec. I need to figure out how to get OpenSA to show the "bone" then this stuff u guys are doing will be useless :D

 

[Eldiran]

I beliiiieve that the bone is approximately the primary offset you have for each article + 88. Ganon's sword was 88 more, and Peach's Toad was about 80 if I recall/math correctly.

 

[Dantarion]

So...are they labeled Unknown 2 or 3 in OpenSA?

EDIT: Fixed a bug in OpenSA2. I had incorrectly assumed that all articles had actions. Peaches stuff doesn't seem to have actions, just subactions.

EDIT: Unknown 2 and 3 seem to be bones for each article.

 

[Eldiran]

Indeed, it does -- seeing as Peach's Toad's Unknown2 is 101, which is the decimal BoneIndex for her RHaveN bone.

 

[Dantarion]

Eldiran, is it ALWAYS unknown2? or is it sometimes unknown3

 

[Eldiran]

Eldiran, is it ALWAYS unknown2? or is it sometimes unknown3

That is a good question. I only know the bones of a few characters, so I can't really make a blanket statement... though it seems like either/or is more likely.

 

[DtJ Glyphmoney]

I have been added 10 times.

 

[Dantarion]

Pushed out latest OpenSA update, should show more articles(Peach is fixed)

 

[Dantarion]

MK has articles for his sword effects
Peach has articles for Toad and Parasol
LA-Basic[6] is something..... (Lucario uses it to hide the charge shot while doing certain things)


Mario->Lucario, the only posted offsets NOT shown by OSA are the pikmin. Not sure what happened, as they were displayed a few versions ago

 

[Eldiran]

Pushed out latest OpenSA update, should show more articles(Peach is fixed)

Yay! Are any of the new improvements reflected at opensa.dantarion.com/tmp/? If not, that's cool.

Nice work!

 

[Dantarion]

Nope, I have to redump those files.
I am gonna analyze Lucario->Bowser soon.

Some of the changes I made make it now crash on opening Diddy
I am having trouble detecting the END of the floating point data. At first, I made it stop at the first 0 value. However, luigis first FP value for fireball IS 0, so....idk, gotta figure it out.

 

[ShardFenix]

Yoshi's egg explosion hitbox: 16F00
Egg shells from the explosion: 16E70

GnW's Sausage hitbox: 153B8
GnW's Steak hitbox: 15440
GnW's Fish hitbox: 15550
GnW's "prawns" hitbox (I don't think the game uses these): 154C8

 

[standardtoaster]

I think I may have found some useful hitbox offsets for R.O.B. I don't know what any of them link to, but I found these while trying to find R.O.B.'s gyro, so they may be related to the gyro or the Final Smash I'm guessing.

199F0
199F8
19A00
19C88
19CA0
19CA8
19CB0
19CB8
19CC0
19E50
19E58
19E60

Most of them seem to follow a pattern. Have x number of SOC. Next offset will not have the first hitbox of the last offset. I don't know if these offsets are helpful or not. I looked at them in PSA and none of them seem like they would be for the gyro.

 

[Dantarion]

Are these NOT shown in OpenSA2 or something?

I could make this thread EXPLODE with offsets, but Id rather people just use OpenSA2.

Since rob's Gyro is held, its in common3.pac

 

[ShardFenix]

199F0
199F8
...
19E50
19E58
19E60

Most of them seem to follow a pattern. Have x number of SOC. Next offset will not have the first hitbox of the last offset. I don't know if these offsets are helpful or not. I looked at them in PSA and none of them seem like they would be for the gyro.

Those are continuous instructions contained in the same subaction. It's actually one long subaction starting at 199F0. Adding 8 to most subactions just brings the index to the next instruction in a subaction (which hides what was previously the first instruction).