FinOlimar Q&A Thread! (Check OP before posting)

[Brave Hippo]

Thats the only bad thing about Olimar, though, so dont sweat it.

 

[Cook]

What I hate is when the chain is pretty much touching the ledge, but then it goes all limp and the pikmin are all like "**** you, you ****ing piece of ****, we don't want to save you!" and then you die. Yep, that sucks.

 

[BlackWaltzX]

What I hate is when the chain is pretty much touching the ledge, but then it goes all limp and the pikmin are all like "**** you, you ****ing piece of ****, we don't want to save you!" and then you die. Yep, that sucks.

Tether limit of 3.

 

[K 2]

what? You can only have three pikmin in your pikmin chain?

 

[kirbywizard]

last time I checked pikmin whip can actually knock meteknigh out of his tornado is it true,
I ve only done it once, but Im not sure if it was just luck.

 

[Dyyne]

what? You can only have three pikmin in your pikmin chain?

No, I'm not sure what Blackwaltz's comment meant though.

 

[Fino]

No, I'm not sure what Blackwaltz's comment meant though.

You can only tether the ledge 3 times before landing back on stage, though... that is something more of general knowledge of all tethers... not quite worth adding to the OP ^^;


~Fino

 

[Rinehart]

Anyone could give me any tips against Luigi?

I really can't face this match up.

 

[Dyyne]

You can only tether the ledge 3 times before landing back on stage, though... that is something more of general knowledge of all tethers... not quite worth adding to the OP ^^;


~Fino

Oh lawl, that's what he was talking about. Reading it, I thought he meant 3 pikmin. Stupid me!

 

[Kyas]

last time I checked pikmin whip can actually knock meteknigh out of his tornado is it true,
I ve only done it once, but Im not sure if it was just luck.

yup. 'tis

 

[kirbywizard]

yup. 'tis

hooray for pikmin power

 

[Ex-Post Facto]

hey guys, i just started playing as olimar, and was wondering what his best/most useful AT is?

 

[asob4]

uhhh.... uh uh uh
he has none >.>

i guess WAC is a useful thing to learn
tether hogging is quite useful

and uh just know your line i guess

 

[Excellence]

Anyone could give me any tips against Luigi?

I really can't face this match up.

I would really consider picking up King Dedede and learning how to infinity him into oblivion. You really have to be considerably better than your opponent to win against Luigi.

 

[DanGR]

Random stuff bout Weegee.
-Pivotgrabs beat Luigi. Abuse them.
-His aerials come out too fast to punish with an aerial of your own, so don't try it. Unless it's an upair of course.
-Try to combo more vertically against Luigi cuz he's not too great from below. (Use the standard dthrow->upsmash->upair stuff)
-Also, he doesn't have much range, so if you can space yourself really well then dthrow->fair (at 0%)->regrab works.
-It's important to recognize that he has miserable aerial maneuverability. You'll see that if he's in the air falling, it'll be easier to see where he'll land. Stuff like that. You've got to punish those landings.
-His jab game is incredible. Don't try to beat him up real close. Roll away or somethin to get out of there if you're caught in a shield/spotdodge "battle".
-You can't shieldgrab a nair->jab approach if Luigi does it correctly. Something to keep in mind.
-throw pikmin at the side-b recovery.
-Pivotgrab the tornado. Pretty much pivotgrab all of his stuff.

 

[Dyyne]

I feel like it may not be a good idea to pikmin toss at relatively closer range just because he can capitalize on it with tornado pretty easily.

 

[kirbywizard]

Random stuff bout Weegee.
-Pivotgrabs beat Luigi. Abuse them.
-His aerials come out too fast to punish with an aerial of your own, so don't try it. Unless it's an upair of course.
-Try to combo more vertically against Luigi cuz he's not too great from below. (Use the standard dthrow->upsmash->upair stuff)
-Also, he doesn't have much range, so if you can space yourself really well then dthrow->fair (at 0%)->regrab works.
-It's important to recognize that he has miserable aerial maneuverability. You'll see that if he's in the air falling, it'll be easier to see where he'll land. Stuff like that. You've got to punish those landings.
-His jab game is incredible. Don't try to beat him up real close. Roll away or somethin to get out of there if you're caught in a shield/spotdodge "battle".
-You can't shieldgrab a nair->jab approach if Luigi does it correctly. Something to keep in mind.
-throw pikmin at the side-b recovery.
-Pivotgrab the tornado. Pretty much pivotgrab all of his stuff.

also I to make sure I dont get up smashed by an olimar, I use luigis nair because it goes right through the smash, it also kills pretty well, I use alot of characters

 

[Cook]

Yeah, don't let Luigi jab you or you'll get shoryuukened and die at like 70%.
I tend to do a lot of grounded pikmin tossing if he is at mid-range so that I have time to get my shield up if he tornados.
I actually don't recommend pivot grabbing the tornado all the time, because if he does it too close to you you'll still get hit (stupid lack of grab armor).
I like to just shield the tornado; it has enough lag to let you have a free d-smash or grab.
Up-air is so good.
If the Luigi doesn't jump you can regrab him out of d-throw a few times; I like d-throw>regrab>d-throw>f-air/n-air at low percentages.
I dunno if it's just because the Luigi I play against expects me to n-air or what, but I find that d-air works better than n-air if I'm being juggled; n-air just trades hits whenever I do it...
Seriously, don't let him jab you.

 

[Cook]

Random stuff bout Weegee.

-You can't shieldgrab a nair->jab approach if Luigi does it correctly. Something to keep in mind.

Are you sure you can't grab him right before he hits the ground?

 

[DanGR]

Are you sure you can't grab him right before he hits the ground?

If he spaces it well, he can jab during Olimar's grab animation and hit Olimar before the grabbox comes out. Think Peach.

 

[Isorropia]

I haven't seen it talked about anywhere, but I could be wrong...anyway. When trying to WAC through an opponents usmash as I fall to the ground with olimar for sexy fun time, I've found that if I was fastfalling as I whistle through their attack, my pikmin will be desynced from me and any dsmash or usmash I try on landing goes out empty. Is there a way around this, or do I just have to not fastfall when doing this?

 

[Fino]

I haven't seen it talked about anywhere, but I could be wrong...anyway. When trying to WAC through an opponents usmash as I fall to the ground with olimar for sexy fun time, I've found that if I was fastfalling as I whistle through their attack, my pikmin will be desynced from me and any dsmash or usmash I try on landing goes out empty. Is there a way around this, or do I just have to not fastfall when doing this?

I haven't noticed this personally. What you might try is not fast falling the whistle, and do a nair into d/usmash. You get more bang for your buck.


~Fino

 

[Iron Asian]

Isn't Oli's Uair faster and better for momentum canceling?

 

[Iron Asian]

Whoops I meant Fair

 

[Fino]

Isn't Oli's Uair faster and better for momentum canceling?

Olimar's fair and uair come out on the same frame; however, the uair ends sooner.


~Fino

 

[Cook]

I haven't seen it talked about anywhere, but I could be wrong...anyway. When trying to WAC through an opponents usmash as I fall to the ground with olimar for sexy fun time, I've found that if I was fastfalling as I whistle through their attack, my pikmin will be desynced from me and any dsmash or usmash I try on landing goes out empty. Is there a way around this, or do I just have to not fastfall when doing this?

I was just noticing this today when I would WAC Marth's up-smash... it was annoying...

 

[Rinehart]

I have a question and this been going on in my head. Do yellow pikmin actually have the ability to stun? .__.

 

[DanGR]

They have more hitstun than the other pikmin, not stun as in render-the-opponent-paralyzed stun.

 

[DarkPikmin]

I do believe they have slightly more hitstun than the other pikmin but no they cannot stun like ZSS does.

 

[kirbywizard]

I need help vsing a good marth, I can only keep up the camping for so long till the marth player finds a way to get close enough anytime he wants. That sword range isnt helping and then the marth player usually starts learning how to dodge most of my grabs and smashes, the pikmin bait dosent work to well, some good tips would be helpful, I just hate vsing marth players, a good one can set me up for an easy spike

 

[asob4]

WAC moar??
camping doesn't work too well vs him
just gotta use smart pivot grabs and hope for the best.

 

[kirbywizard]

WAC moar??
camping doesn't work too well vs him
just gotta use smart pivot grabs and hope for the best.

*facepalm* I forgot about the pivot grabs *falcon facepalm* *face no longer exist*
thanks for the tip though, the marth I vs loves picking smashvil by the way, I hate that small stage

 

[DtJ Hilt]

Any more matchup questions should be asked in the Matchup Thead.

That's what it's for :D

 

[kirbywizard]

Any more matchup questions should be asked in the Matchup Thead.

That's what it's for :D

sorry I thought almost any olimar related question should go here, but yeah ok I will post there when it involves stratedgies

 

[Dyyne]

Any more matchup questions should be asked in the Matchup Thead.

That's what it's for :D

Actually, I think the matchup thread should be for discussing matchups in order to obtain ratios, not asking for help. Although it isn't updated anymore, so I guess you can do whatever you want in it now

 

[hdrevolution123]

Is there any guide or tips on how to spike with Olimar?

 

[MdrnDayMercutio]

I can't find it other than a reference to the chart in this thread's OP.

Does stage really affect the colour Oli is most likely to pluck?

 

[hdrevolution123]

I can't find it other than a reference to the chart in this thread's OP.

Does stage really affect the colour Oli is most likely to pluck?

I wouldn't think so

 

[MdrnDayMercutio]

Also, think about which pikmin **** the character you're fighting. I recommend you look at hilt's chart and learn at least 1 stage for each pikmin color. For instance, purples and yellows are good against marth, which is why I CP marth's to frigate - even though frigate has this ora around it of a bad oli stage I usually two stock marths there.

Than what's this about?

 

[Dyyne]

Yes stage effects the colors. There's a thread that's stickied about it lawl...