Final Fantasy Tactics Mafia: Game finally over! Raziek lynched, Town wins! Lego too!

Raziek

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Wait, you boners serious?

No MvP

Ryker pushed 2 mislynches, and I was the one who caused Gheb's death. He was only right on Lego and Ryu basically threw himself on the fire.
 

#HBC | Ryker

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Wait, you boners serious?

No MvP

Ryker pushed 2 mislynches, and I was the one who caused Gheb's death. He was only right on Lego and Ryu basically threw himself on the fire.
Bull**** you caused Gheb's death. I caused Gheb's death after Orbo almost certainly ensured he wouldn't be.
 

Raziek

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No, I and Overswarm, caused Gheb's death.

Overswarm mod-goofed, and Gheb wasn't supposed to die.

Calculated Misinformation – One shot ability. Choose two players. These two players are now up for a second lynch in the same day, and are removed from the standard lynch pool as options (they still count towards the player count). Each player in the game will be able to make a permanent vote on one of the two players by stating “Execute: (name)”; they may not change their vote. Standard voting changes apply (double voting, taking less or more votes to lynch, voteblocked, etc.) Should one of them not receive a majority by the end of the standard lynch (hammer), the one with the most votes will die; if there is a tie, both will die. You may choose yourself to be one of these players. Should one of the players you have chosen be killed during the Night you use this ability, this ability will fizzle and you will not be able to use it again; choose carefully. The attributes of this ability will be public information.

Only Orbo should have ended up dead there.
 

Overswarm

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Yeah, this game won't have an MVP. While Ryker put forth most of the effort in this game, it didn't really cause anything bad to happen.

Raziek killed Kantrip.
Raziek put Gheb in a position to die when he otherwise would not have even been under suspicion
Red Ryu basically goofed and got himself killed
Raziek willingly killed himself
Legolas was townnnnnnnnnnn when he died



MVPs gotta carry, not just do the most work. While Ryker's effort put forth was valiant, it didn't really lead to anyone in particular dying except for the townies he pushed.
 

#HBC | Ryker

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Lol, Xonar town.

OS, everyone is gonna lynch that role in a closed set-up.

But yeah, not salty about no MvP. Am salty that the entire town wanted to play so badly. Nich, Inferno, and Glyph. Rajam half the game. Sang never did anything and remained inconsequential.

Gova I liked.
 

~ Gheb ~

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I think it's OK for Ryker to not get MvP if the requirements for getting MvP are generally strict. If we agree to not be that strict then you can give it to him but all in all I agree with OS / Raziek. Not to say he didn't play well - he did get the lynches through that needed to be gotten through and caused enough of a headache for us to have him consistently as a NK target. He also layed down the framework to get Kantrip lynched later.

If that's good enough for you to give him MvP then I won't protest. HOWEVER, he's still responsible for two mislynches and like 75% of me getting lynched was Raziek's doing. In addition to that Ryu virtually suicided so if there's anything Ryker should get credit for then it's finding the Gheb / Ryu -> Kantrip connection which most other players failed to see.

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Wait, you boners serious?

No MvP

Ryker pushed 2 mislynches, and I was the one who caused Gheb's death. He was only right on Lego and Ryu basically threw himself on the fire.
Ryker is not getting credit for Legolas. No way.

You know how DEAD SET he was on Glyph when I started pushing Legolas.

Ryker jumped on Legolas because I shoved the cop results contradiction in his face, causing Legolas to claim indy and get himself lynched. I know I was maf and all, but I still found Legolas.
 

#HBC | ZoZo

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You never pushed me, broski.

You found me because I was false-claiming due to a mod error. I was then put in a bad spot because of Raziek's watching and there you had the upper hand with an established cop claim. Even if my "way of getting results" was the same as yours, you could still claim the opposite.

I claimed because the slot was demotivated and mod stuff. We had our indy win anyway.

I don't mean to be an *******, but you can't claim credit for anything. Neither can Ryker. The only one who can remotely claim credit is Raziek for claiming to have watched my stuff and got me in a bad position by that.
 

#HBC | ZoZo

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So yeah, the one who found me was ourself when we got ourselves in a bad position because of mod ****ups.

Also reason why I got so mad over you being all cocky. Sorry, but you established jack.
 
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Ryker was tunneling far too hard on Glyph to consider you. I just got mad that Raziek tried to give HIM credit.

If you want to blame the mod for your lynch, that's fine. There was enough MOD errors for all factions that it evened out anyways. I was supposed to be day jan'd, Gheb wasn't supposed to die, Raziek wasn't supposed to be shown as indy to my investigate, you got your result skipped on.
 

#HBC | ZoZo

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To clarify:

We got Glyph's stone right N1. It was related to flavor and he claimed to have Hellcry Punch.
We guessed Kantrip's stone but got it wrong. For me this was a slight sign of scum (stone not fitting flavor), but I trusted Sworddancer (Portal Mafia rerun? :bee: jk Sword, love ya)

We then decided to claim cop, no result and guess right (massclaim), then claim a guilty, get a lynch on that and guess right again. Even if we were wrong, we already had three stones and would've won. We thought we were roleblocked as there was no insult. Then Raziek saw our actions and we weren't roleblocked. So we suddenly were cop who should've had a result. Contradiction at a 50/50 guess. The end.
 
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really sorry i had to replace out. for the record, being under suspicion had nothing to do with it - i really was too busy to spend time on this game, and i didn't want to deprive someone who could actually put in effort of the chance to play this crazy setup.

it was still very entertaining though, and i'd like to say thanks OS for hosting nonetheless

@RR: wtf man, we didn't WANT to exclude you from the role discussion. you made ONE post in the QT and were never on skype, and you got back the day OS said "send me your role choices" and said you would just go with what we made -_-

@rajam: i'll continue to say that you put far too much faith in your "disconnection" approach. you should re-read kantrip-RR and see how easily you can be taken advantage of =)
 

#HBC | Red Ryu

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I know T-Block but still, I wanted to be the roles I wanted, Monk/Priest, and certain mafia roles.

I did talk on skype, though if I didn't it's my ****ty memory and I apologize for it.

I know being on a mafia team is a team game but I sort of did feel force into it and I blame more so myself for not speaking up enough about it. I wanted to pick the roles I wanted but at the same time I didn't want to object to what the team wanted.

And I valued more what you and Gheb wanted over my personal wants, since I was the weakest member of the scum team.
 

~ Gheb ~

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The problem wasn't that you were "the weakest member" but that you'd let all game know that you were being bussed. Fight back next time.

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#HBC | Dancer

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Why am I up right now?

We guessed Kantrip's stone but got it wrong. For me this was a slight sign of scum (stone not fitting flavor), but I trusted Sworddancer (Portal Mafia rerun? jk Sword, love ya)
Hey, sure you were right on Kantrip but the guy specifically played to my understanding of him (btw I'm never going to trust you again Kantrip), but I was right on RR and sorta Gheb. We all have our ups and downs. :mad:

But yeah totally love ya baby <3
 
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Yeah Swords I did some stuff sometimes knowing how you read me as you had been open about it in the past. I especially made sure to contrast my play in Awkward Moments, and after my stunt D1 I had you ;)
 
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