Aggressive Mediation
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How about you+Ryker?If you want to know how I feel about it, then I would compare myself to Rockin in Touhou mafia or X-12 in Gurren Lagann.
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How about you+Ryker?If you want to know how I feel about it, then I would compare myself to Rockin in Touhou mafia or X-12 in Gurren Lagann.
Your vote question makes no sense at all. What answer/information were you hoping to get out of a weird ***, non important, fluff question like that? You're lucky it was still in RVS at that time. O_O I know it is rehash, but I still don't like that post one bit.Most of my Mafia experience has been in the BRoom, although I have also played in EE's Spiderman Mafia, and replaced in for someone terrible in Megaman mafia. My performance in the first game is the reason that activity/prod rules came to SWF.
As for people I know in this game, I thought I knew Infernomni who was in Megaman mafia, but turns out it's a different Inferno. And I wanted to say I know Tom, but come to think of it I don't think we've ever been in a game together. So I don't think I've actually played with anyone in this game.
I do have to say, I also have a pretty large disdain for anyone who hydras. To me it just feels like an admission that both players feel like they aren't good enough to do one persons job. So vote: Aggressive Mediation, why did you feel you needed to hydra in this game.
You do realize that scum are not allowed to discuss the game outside of the thread while it is during the dayphase?I thought RR | J weren't on the same scum team given their dialogue early game regarding Hilt on meta. Red Ryu seemed to ask J an earnest question regarding my initial division between Tom | inferno, they touched on Hilt, and they discussed meta. These are three different discussion topics that I suppose scum could discuss with each other. However it didn't seem like forced dialogue between them. It is possible that they aren't really using outside communication at the moment, for example QT or aim|msn. However their interaction seems genuine.
Here is Hilt adding her own opinions, which were basically already given directly above this post. In addition, she publicly claims that she is the lurkey type and will wait to say something until an opportunity arises. Coincidence that her "meta" is inherently scummy, or at the very least, anti-town?Setting up relationships should be handled similarly to calling someone out as scum, defending a player as town, or placing a vote on someone. If you give a solid, blunt statement, attach a reason for making your statement. Whether or not it could change in the future, or you perhaps decide you were wrong in thinking what you thought in the past, making a statement as blunt and direct as you did and attempting to dodge having to give a reason like you did in posts #92/94 is shady.
You present a pretty suspicious post when you talk about LST, but claim it is null and then go for the barely active lurker, who in a way, corresponds to your play style?@LST/J: Funny you'd both ask me your opinions on each other, haha. I'm a bit confused at J asking me about LST, though. Seemed a bit more random. Did a recheck on both of their posts, though, as neither were players I was paying much attention to.
LST: Not a whole lot to say. Hasn't given off much of a town or scum read. Didn't like the last paragraph of his most recent post. Seemed like fancy filler, to keep his post just from being a reply to yourself. Said absolutely nothing in that post. Also, "don't want him in endgame but for now let's scumhunt"? For the situation we're in, atm, you have it backwards.
J: I'm fine with J, actually. Not because he defended me, but becaue he's putting forth work at a game that's barely moving along, instead of just letting it keep its slow pace. I agree with his stance on Panta, and it's definitely a wagon that I'll be joining at the end of this post. From my reread, I didn't notice anything from J that was particularly scummy, but it's only the first day in a slow moving game so I mean... yeah. We'll see.
As for Panta, we've gotten nothing of worth out of him yet. His posts, while not being incredibly few and have given little content, to put it nicely. Looking through his posts, I saw nothing of worth.
Vote: Panta
I am really getting tired of you guys using meta as reason to vote or not to vote someone. You are voting me on the assumption that Tom is town and that if he gets active he will be a vital asset to the town...did you not read my post? Of course it was based on J's reasoning. J pointing it out made me both realize panta's playstyle up until now and reread his posts. Me saying that it's a "wagon I'm willing to jump on" is obviously me saying that I'm agreeing with J and that his opinion on this player has influenced my own. What a stupid question.
Seph, I agree, would likely be a better pick than Panta. You're right in that. Seph hasn't made a post outside of the first page (40ppp) of the game. Do you think he should be the play? Or rather, if your vote wasn't on me, who would it be on? I know you don't plan to push town towards my lynch with only that reasoning, haha. But yeah, Seph slipped under my radar.
Inferno and Tom's posts have had very little content, less than Panta's. The reason I would choose my vote to be on Panta than Tom, is that I've never, ever played with Panta. I know nothing of his playstyle, and want to see his reactions. I've played a good amount of mafia with Tom, and know that if he pushes himself to be more active, he'll be one of the stronger players, and a much better slot for the lategame. I'm wanting to see if he'll do that of his own will, or if it will take pressure from other players to make that happen.
Regardless, you're taking votes more seriously than you should. They aren't merely a tool for killing. You're rather annoying.
.....@J: "Likely" be a better pick for lynch. Not a pick for my vote. My vote is not going to lynch someone. It is not powerful enough to kill scum.
Wagoning... for no reason... I'd also rather not lynch an inactive say we accidentally hit a power role.Man Dad's acting like he usually does when football's online: like a jerk.
I'll read more in depth later, but we DO have 4 days left which is ridiculous. I say if we should lynch one person (since an Iggy lynch won't go down cuz he won't post and be scummy) I'd have to go Panta, and I'll read what you guys say to go Seph.
OH please don't be using an annoying post setup. Please...Take notes, factoring hectopascals. This earnest integer has solid equations. You should all emulate his positive value.
=not !How about you+Ryker?
Vote was due to his pushing on JTB, even ignoring his first posts he has been placing discontent on JTB. JTB has not done anything from what I can see to be shoved aside. He is cleared town so he has town movtives alone. Acro ignoring him concerns me.
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The matrix set up here is not functioning properly. This post's formula is bad! The factoring hectopascal who made it must be scum?Well, now there is. I'll explain when I get to them. Tom as Null.
I skimmed over the recent posts and iirc someone said something about him having no interest in creating a self image. Which is pri much what I was thinking in regards to both Panta and Inferno. They're definetely weaker town reads than others, but town nonetheless.
@Soup Where you at? Get in hereeee.
Red Ryu confuses me, I don't understand the reasoning behind a lot of his posts.
@Red Ryu http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=13106637&postcount=125
Unless I'm misunderstaning, your vote is on Acrostic for pushing JTB, but also for ignoring him? If he kept pushing JTB would your read on Acrostic be townier? What would have been the town course of action in your eyes?
#117 is weird too, I didn't see anything about a "playstyle" bugging Acrostic.
@Hilt You never mentioned Panta before. Is your vote on him now due to J's #121 or was it an independent decision?
What's your opinion of Inferno, Tom, Seph? Why does it differ from Panta?
How does this "As for Panta, we've gotten nothing of worth out of him yet. His posts, while not being incredibly few and have given little content, to put it nicely. Looking through his posts, I saw nothing of worth." not apply to yourself, until your #126? Everything else looks contentless.
I don't like your Panta vote at all.
Vote:Hilt
Back from V/LA so I'll get to doing some real posting. Happy to have some things to respond to! ^^ I'm just gonna go in line by posts.
Acrostic, I really wasn't in Dissidia because I was doing Seph a favour with standing in for an inactive slot. So i really don't know anything about that game. Also I really dislike the tone you have been taking as of late because it just screams off over-defensiveness and that you are trying to scrounge up as much as you can to talk about. Slim it down a bit duder.
LST, lies. July doesn't talk in third person. I am however a bit confused because in that post you say, "This person is useless but let's do some scum-hunting!" Which is followed by a paragraph of you saying you don't have scum picks atm nor can you do anything till tomorrow which is just funny to me.
RR, FoS still stands. I really don't care for your reasoning and it doesn't make much sense at all. Who else are you looking at besides Acro?
Hilt, Aight so you are leaning null on LST because you don't think there is much info to go off of yet? What do you think of Dad's vote on LST then? Your reasoning for your Panta vote is somewhat what I was getting at. I don't like that he is adding stuff at all and is overall worthless but Seikend is right that voting purely based off that is holding a double standard. My vote was that reason + I felt his response to Acro was a little excessive.
Seikend, what is your opinion of Dad now that he has posted? I also feel your reasoning for Panta/Inferno is a WIFOMy reason. ">.> However I really like your last post otherwise.
Dad, I don't really like your LST vote nor can I say I fully understand your reasoning behind that vote. Can you go more into why you seem to like Panta? If you like him, what do you think of Hilt's vote?
Inferno, what? Are you saying that you have no reads whatsoever? How do you plan to fix this problem?
ugh, so zetta gross.Unvote
Vote: Dad
Check your formulas, we abide by different laws here. Can I take your integer as positive because of this?You do realize that scum are not allowed to discuss the game outside of the thread while it is during the dayphase?
I don't know if this is a gambit or what, but this lack of knowledge about the mafia mechanic makes me think Acrostic is newbtown. ****. Really wanted to have vengeance.
Unvote
I'm not sure. He said something similar in another game asking about how mafia communicate. In the game it was never discussed when mafia is allowed to communicate or not so this could be a legitimate tell. I had some reservations regarding this because I blatantly pointed it out in a previous game that this could be a town tell. Seeing it used as a response to my post is unnerving. But I'm treating it as genuine at the moment.Check your formulas, we abide by different laws here. Can I take your integer as positive because of this?
How about you+Ryker?
=not !
You are going to have to explain how my answers were "wrong" duder.![]()
My previous solution may have been wrong. Where did I blunder in the equation? While I appreciate the effort, you should get someone else to check your homework. These answers are all wrong.
Why?ugh, so zetta gross.
NFACTORIAL! You zetta lucky sons of digits get our sexy readslist already!
r>0
AM
JTB
Acrostic
Panta
r+1>0
Hilt
Dad
r=0
Everyone else
r-1<0
J
r<0
Seikend
vote: Seikend
Agreed. Seikend vote came out of nowhere and already giving a reads lists, gross.ugh, so zetta gross.
Huh? I didn't think I was white-knighting but if so, aight. I do tend to defend my town reads. RR has landed on my watch list for watching inactives and for reasons previously stated. It seems RR is taking the cop-out route and not giving any scum-reads as of late and just focusing on easy targets.Dad's initial pushes were in the right direction (i.e. not Panta). He is not on my lynch list for today. His frustration with J parallels mine earlier this game. I want to see a LST response and I don't know why J is white knighting. Red Ryu just seems to be staring at the inactives, not sure how he ended up on J's fos list. Am more curious how J already had a FoS and a Vote which means he's already double dipping with scum tells.
You are actually agreeing to what I am saying in this paragraph. You feel Dad should have kept his vote up, that's the major reason for my vote on Dad. I disliked the unvote because it came off so quickly when pressure came his way.Acro said:Again I don't see how choosing to unvote when active players remaining will not be convinced is a scum tell. Still feel that Dad should have kept his vote up. Dad is a null-town for me atm.
Why aren't you also asking AM this?Acro said:@Seikend: "Comfortable with J, LST, Panta, Acrostic and Inferno as town. Everyone else is null."
Sorry this is the second time I'm quoting this. But how did you get reads on these players so quickly and why did you just list them?
WIFOM and the like but this sounds like a really obv newbTown tell. I'm gonna think on this more.Panta said:You do realize that scum are not allowed to discuss the game outside of the thread while it is during the dayphase?
I don't know if this is a gambit or what, but this lack of knowledge about the mafia mechanic makes me think Acrostic is newbtown. ****. Really wanted to have vengeance.
Unvote
AM's entrance is pretty hip for the kiddos, using a somewhat restriction (note: not a real one, just on purpose) and his vote on seikend is a sort of alarming but i'll look into it.J said:Daddy, can I unvote you and get an opinion on AM's entrance, Panta's last post, and will you be voting LST with the current wagon that is forming on him?
herpa derpaIn a word, i talked to my other head and we had a bickering of sort.
hydra logs aren't able to be posted, so i'll keep it short.
Kuz tentatively disagreed with my suspicion of LST, and thought that his Iggy vote was justified and felt that i was being a tad exaggerating wrt my point. i tried arguing my stance against LST but Kuz just didn't see it as that way, we dragged this on for a good hour or so, and have formed a new place to look, once Kuz pops his head up again will we hopefully present something again.
Panta's points aren't anything special, and shouldn't be seen as that, there's a lot of speculation, but i'll need to talk to kuz about it.
RR is Null.
"I bring orders from the queen! Get dressed and go find Princess Garnet!"
You completely dodged the question when J asked you why your vote wasn't on Seph. Why is Panta more deserving of your vote than Seph?..did you not read my post? Of course it was based on J's reasoning. J pointing it out made me both realize panta's playstyle up until now and reread his posts. Me saying that it's a "wagon I'm willing to jump on" is obviously me saying that I'm agreeing with J and that his opinion on this player has influenced my own. What a stupid question.
Seph, I agree, would likely be a better pick than Panta. You're right in that. Seph hasn't made a post outside of the first page (40ppp) of the game. Do you think he should be the play? Or rather, if your vote wasn't on me, who would it be on? I know you don't plan to push town towards my lynch with only that reasoning, haha. But yeah, Seph slipped under my radar.
Inferno and Tom's posts have had very little content, less than Panta's. The reason I would choose my vote to be on Panta than Tom, is that I've never, ever played with Panta. I know nothing of his playstyle, and want to see his reactions. I've played a good amount of mafia with Tom, and know that if he pushes himself to be more active, he'll be one of the stronger players, and a much better slot for the lategame. I'm wanting to see if he'll do that of his own will, or if it will take pressure from other players to make that happen.
Regardless, you're taking votes more seriously than you should. They aren't merely a tool for killing. You're rather annoying.
I'm thinking town.Seikend, what is your opinion of Dad now that he has posted? I also feel your reasoning for Panta/Inferno is a WIFOMy reason. ">.> However I really like your last post otherwise.
Why?The matrix set up here is not functioning properly. This post's formula is bad! The factoring hectopascal who made it must be scum?
Because I'm pri awesome. I'll explain a read if I need to.@Seikend: "Comfortable with J, LST, Panta, Acrostic and Inferno as town. Everyone else is null."
Sorry this is the second time I'm quoting this. But how did you get reads on these players so quickly and why did you just list them?
You asked for my opinion other than Acro, that is why.I love you Seikend. Like everything matches up so well.
Vote: Red Ryu
During my re-read I began to notice a commonality with RR. Pretty much a majority of his posts are surrounding the inactives and policing inactives. That is pretty much all he has done. He talks about we are needing to move this game forward but doesn't do anything besides saying we should lynch inactives (at the current time Seph). Yet when asked for scum-reads, he just cops-out and answers "inactives." To be fair, he gave Panta but for like no reasoning. His vote also hasn't been doing anything to help him force this inactive thing nor has he voted Panta. He hasn't even made mention of his Acro vote yet.
Hilt's obv. Shows that he actually put thought into the post and what he thought about Acro.Seph, tell me what you think of Tom. Who's post is more telling, Panta's or Hilt's and why?
Unvote
RedRuy: He hasn't really said much other than "lets lynch an inactive." He's been mainly pushing me, but earlier in the game going for Hilt. I don't know if he just can't find a read yet or if he's just trying for a safe lynch.@Seph Read on Red Ryu and Hilt? Out of the people who have posted a fair share, are there any you'd not be willing to call town? Why?
^Acro being a douche.(this isn't a read btw)- Pushing on JTB was to initially test alignment b/c I didn't know it was mod-confirmed.
* Reference ten minute time gap:
-*Re-read flavor for clues
-*Looked up innocent child role on mafiascum
-*Posted that it's mod-confirmed and was a mistake
* How is this a scum gambit?
-* Try to make town lynch a cleared role? (unlikely)
-* Try to play the dumb side of the dumb|scum card? (aside from content confusion? i'm not that dumb)
-* Insult the clear for being stupid to win public opinion? (deserves another bullet point but deal with it)
- Placing discontent on JTB
* He's basing a vote around my first two posts:
-* Probably thinks he's Ryker (lmao)
-* Possibly reaction testing me and is just pissing me off (mission accomplished)
-* Will probably hammer me in lylo so I might as well call him an idiot now (lost Touhou|Dissidia|Fumoffu!)
- JTB has not done anything to be shoved aside
* Addressed all his points up to this post (MANY MANY times)
* I re-read Dissidia (while you and J were snacking on popcorn and laughing your ***** off)
-* This has around 0-1% correlation (i'm being generous with the 1%)
* JTB has not done anything to be shoved aside (like what)
- He is cleared town and has town motives alone
* A car salesman has the motive to sell cars alone (when he's not being miserable about his occupation)
-* Doesn't deny the chance the fact that he could be bad at selling cars
-* Doesn't deny the fact that he's bad at reading his customers
-* Doesn't deny that he's really bad at catching mafia (sorry analogy slip)
- Acro ignoring his concerns bothers me
* Get a room
-* The fact that you're either trolling me hardcore or being extremely stupid bothers me
-* The fact that you voted me after posting something regarding content bothers me
-* The fact that you can't distinguish between AtE and being bothered bothers me
-* The fact that you didn't bother to notice the lack of correlation between Dissidia and this bothers me
If scum have daytalk, no, my read largely didn't change, I still don't know why he would say something that.Panta, answer my question about whether your Acro read changes or not please.
Meta.@RedRuy and Hilt: At the time you guys were contemplating about lynching an inactive, you mentioned me. But at the time Aggressive Mediation was just as inactive. Why did you choose to single me out and not him? And while we're on the same note, why do you think Ignatius is undeserving of being listed either?
Have you been reading reading earlier or did I not post it? I pushed on Acro's earlier posts, recently I have been answering you because you have asked me questions.I honestly did not know that Acro was a scum-pick of yours. Why is he a scum-pick of yours first off and why haven't you been pushing it like at all?
This game is so slow and lonely. ;_;
He's saying you're repeating yourself and have no other way of reading people than jumping at inactives.Hilt changed my mind if he keeps posting like he did before, Seph on the other hand...
Dad, what's your opinion of J so far regarding alignment and alignment alone?