FF6 Mafia - GAME OVER! Mafia wins!

[Xivii]

Vand it was pretty obvious lol.

 

[Life]

above was at vand

 

[Xatres]

I have no idea what the plan even is anymore. @_@

Let's just set it up so both J and X1 die. I'm leaving my Flush 7 on J and moving my lynch vote to X1. We can leave DH as a tool tomorrow.

Unvote
Vote: X1

 

[vanderzant]

Because doesn't immediately warrant damage control anyway? No need to take such precautions as I'm sure scum can read.

Don't take it personally.

I'm still assuming it's a massive wifom trap that Cello planted for scum, and the REAL mason recruiter is also a watcher who will catch scum when they try to kill you.

Yeah?

 

[vanderzant]

Vand it was pretty obvious lol.

Yes, that's what we want scum to think

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

Also noticed that when earlier people tried to unvote there 7 flush, that removed there original vote.

If we're going to have X1 lynched (which I disagree with regardless) then he should at least be allowed to hammer DH. Didn't we consider it likely for DH to be scum? Why aren't we acting upon this ffs. I have a problem with late game DH considering how he's basically given up.

Nabe did you ever answer my question about why you're lynching J? I don't think you did. Must of got lost in all these pages.

...

I'd really like to see MK hammer, but he won't of course. If X1 is willing to hammer DH that might work out. I'd like to see nabe hammer just because of how stern he is that J has to die.

Nah, mod confirmed that there's no unvote on 7-Flush, and he hasn't taken any unvotes into account. Players can only switch between the two; no unvote is required (just like normal voting).

This this this.

One sec, I'll get it now.

...

If we get there and no one steps up to the plate, I'd do it.

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

Cello, is DH still a play in your eyes? Yes/no and why.

 

[vanderzant]

No I meant that i.e. DH typed "unvote 7 flush vote: J" or something and it removed his ordinary vote on himself, or whoever it was on at the time. Doesn't matter regardless.

 

[Cello_Marl]

If we get there and no one steps up to the plate, I'd do it.

THIS IS PRECISELY WHAT WE DON'T WANT.

Seriously!

If DH were scum, scum would have been willing to lynch him for bus credit, OR backed off because he'd kill them. If he's town, they'd step up then back off whenever they could. JUST LIKE WHAT X1 HAS DONE. I really do think he would have been willing to die ALONG with a J lynch though, since it would be two townies for a single scum.

DH is a threat, nothing more. He doesn't NEED to die, as long as he plays ball.

 

[#HBC | J]

THIS IS PRECISELY WHAT WE DON'T WANT.

Seriously!

If DH were scum, scum would have been willing to lynch him for bus credit, OR backed off because he'd kill them. If he's town, they'd step up then back off whenever they could. JUST LIKE WHAT X1 HAS DONE. I really do think he would have been willing to die ALONG with a J lynch though, since it would be two townies for a single scum.

DH is a threat, nothing more. He doesn't NEED to die, as long as he plays ball.

*hug Cello* IDC you deserve it after putting to words what I have been trying to say for a bit.

Kupo!

 

[M.K]

I have a question for GiraffeLaserGun:

Are you Relm, yes or no?

 

[#HBC | J]

MK, GLG is V/LA till Sunday.

Kupo!

 

[M.K]

Well, that's quite annoying. ._.

 

[M.K]

Don't let him get away with not answering this question, btw. Any investigative role that is not yet assigned to someone specifically and could find out this information SHOULD do so toNight if we want to eliminate all the scum players.

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

-snip-

So Nabe, understanding this, do you think J is scum or are you simply lynching him on policy? realising that lynching him now will not give us an extra lynch, or change much really, considering the necessity you see in lynching J alone.

I have a null read on J. I certainly think he is misguided or just wrong about some of what he says, but I don't see it as scummy per se. He could be either alignment and I would be pleased with the result of him going, as town because of the mod votes and as scum because lol it's scum.

I am (personally) just more comfortable with getting rid of him now, because we have an opportunity to do so, and Mafia is a game where all sorts of unexpected things happen (and this game has already had its share of them). We could have a heap of scum, we could have three factions. I see no reason to chance it, even if that chance is any small percentage above zero.

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

Cello, what do you think about what Vand says, that DH hasn't really been here and playing this Day? And what do you think of X1, who did agree to hammer DH when J "outed" in their private communication?

 

[Cello_Marl]

X1 and J lynch is fine.

Doc protect InCom.
BSL track MK so we know he plays ball.
DH shouldn't be able to act due to J lynch.
MK will target Zen so we know whether or not he has an alignment concealing ability.
RPSI will kill DH so we don't have to deal with this **** again.

If X1 does have an alignment concealing ability:

RPSI will instead attempt to kill MK and Locke will protect RPSI instead of InCom. If MK does not die, we can assume he lied about his abilities and will lynch him.

If X1 doesn't have an alignment concealing ability:

If MK reports an alignment concealing ability, we lynch Zen. If he reports no such ability, then we lynch him to get his alignment. If he's indy, we kill Zen. This is prevent the possibility of an Indy MK allying himself with scum.

 

[Cello_Marl]

@Nabe: I think X1 was trying to trade his life for 2 townies. That makes me think he isn't their alignment concealer. That also makes me think, in conjunction with his lack of opposition to the Cello/J tie vote idea, that we hoping we'd go through with that so he could quick switch his flush vote to kill me.

DH thought throughout the entire day that he was going to die, and yet was still moving back and forth on his vote. He's acting according to our wishes rather than trying to have what a scum faction would want to happen.

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

Okay, thanks. 100% on board with this now, this is exactly what I was looking for in an explanation.
Vote: X1

 

[Overswarm]

Votecount:
J (3) - MOD, MOD, MOD,
Meta-Kirby (2) - Zen, X1-12
Darkhorse (3) - Vanderzant, Meta-Kirby, Dark Horse,
X1-12 (3) - J, Xatres, Nabe,

Not Voting - Cello_Marl, BSL, RocketPSIence, giraffeslasergun, Swiss, InferiorityComplex,

With 14 alive, it takes 8 to lynch.
A deadline has been set for Thursday, December 2nd, at 3:00 p.m. EST.

7-Flush Vote Count:
J (5) - Nabe, Swiss, Xatres, X1-12, Dark Horse,
Cello (3) - J, Inferiority Complex, Vanderzant,

7-Flush vote ends the same point the day ends.

Lemme know if there are any errors.

I probably won't be available on Thanksgiving, just FYI.

 

[rPSIvysaur]

Hey guys, I have a comp for a limited amount of time. I've been able to read some on my iTouch. But I'm a little scimmyesque so pardon me. I hope to be ungrounded soon.

So first of all
Grrr at revealing my role Cello. Could have breadcrumbed and continued to just imply that I was Shadow; I would have listened to you, in case you didn't get the message from Tanny turning up dead. And yes, I did assasinate Tanny.

So I'll kill MK tonight, okay?

 

[Cello_Marl]

@RPSI: If X1 is a Godfather, Tailor, Lawyer, or something like that then kill MK. If he isn't, then kill DH. We can use MK's supposed ability toMorrow. You'll probably get a cross kill.

Also, if you could vote for X1, that would be great.

 

[rPSIvysaur]

Vote: X1

and understood Cello.

 

[#HBC | J]

Cello, should one of DH/Nabe/Xatres even up the Flush votes before we hammer X1?

With rPSI's vote that will put him at L-4.

Kupo!

 

[Xivii]

rPSI, kill M-K regardless. Cello is being a dumb ***.

 

[#HBC | J]

rPSI, don't listen to Zen. Listen to Cello.

Kupo!

 

[M.K]

Zen, you are wrong, I am not scum, you seem to think that you've got something completely figured out, but you don't, and it's funny to watch you assert a statement that is false as if it is God's spoken word. If you have something to say ABOUT it, rather than reciting the most general statement possible, than I would like you to present it so that your case becomes more than just fake contribution to the game.

 

[Xivii]

Cello you're basically saying to kill me either way. I don't have an alignment concealing ability and your plan is ********. Keeping M-K alive at all is dumb because he is scum. You're saying if he lies and says I do have such an ability then I will die and he will be killed following; and if he tells the truth, then he will be lynched and I will die following.

 

[rPSIvysaur]

@Cello - does your ability tell you someone's alignment or just their role?

 

[Cello_Marl]

@RPSI: Both.

Zen, you're talking as though you know for a fact that X1 won't have an alignment concealing ability.

 

[Cello_Marl]

@J: I want X1 at L-2 before we make any more flush-vote adjustments.

 

[#HBC | J]

Gotcha Gotcha :o

Kupo!

 

[BSL]

Hiya. My phone magically works again. So I can play. Catching up. Like 6 pages or something.

 

[Cello_Marl]

Zen, why haven't you voted for X1 yet?

 

[Xivii]

@MK- hmm you've gotten better, and I'm proud. But you still need to go.

Cello I don't even know where you're getting this X1 concealment/me concealment thing from. I don't even have a scum read on X1. Regardless of X1 you're still allowing M-K to get by simply if X1 doesn't have a role and it's bogus. M-K should be vigged regardless of X1's role. I don't care about being investigated, all I care about is M-K dying.

 

[Xivii]

Zen, why haven't you voted for X1 yet?

You already know this. Not satisfied dude. And we need to wait for Swiss and X1.

 

[Cello_Marl]

Regardless of X1 you're still allowing M-K to get by simply if X1 doesn't have a role and it's bogus.

How is this the case? In all scenarios, assuming you are town, then MK dies.

Actually, we don't want to wait for X1. I REALLY don't want him anywhere near this place when we hammer, because I don't want him ****ing around with the flush votes.

 

[#HBC | J]

If BSL votes for him then he will be at L-3

Zen, would you put him at L-2 for us?

DH/Nabe/Xatres - one of you three MUST even the Flush votes in the next post you make.

Cello, we need MK to switch his vote for X1 then we can have InCom hammer so we know he is town.

Also I just thought of something. X1 would not post the chat logs if he were scum because a Mafia Modkill does not end the day. Still it is a bit of a risk since he might mess with out Flush Votes. Grrr....Nabe why the heck did you put us in this position *facepalm*

Kupo!

 

[Cello_Marl]

@J: Stop blaming Nabe. I stopped blaming you.

As you said, it is risky because X1 can screw with the Flush votes. I don't want BSL to vote for X1 just yet; I want him to be one of the people that votes for X1 from L-2 to L-0, so he can use his flush vote to even things out if necessary.

 

[Cello_Marl]

I WAS going to rely on Zen for that as well, but I can tell he's not going to be reliable.