FF6 Mafia - GAME OVER! Mafia wins!

[Xivii]

So you want J to live and X1 and DH die ~_^?

 

[Cello_Marl]

Sure, why not.

 

[Xivii]

Not sure how we got to one of dh and X1 are scum.

It would be better for J to hammer DH.

 

[X1-12]

J should die from flush7 anyway, another player should hammer, I'll do it if needs be but I'd much rather someone else.

Kupo!

Unvote
Vote: X1-12

 

[Overswarm]

Votecount:
J (3) - MOD, MOD, MOD,
X1-12 (1) - X1-12
Meta-Kirby (1) - Zen
Darkhorse (4) - Nabe, Xatres, Vanderzant, Meta-Kirby,
X1-12 (1) - J

Not Voting - Cello_Marl, InferiorityComplex, BSL, RocketPSIence, giraffeslasergun, Swiss, Dark Horse,

With 14 alive, it takes 8 to lynch.
A deadline has been set for Thursday, December 2nd, at 3:00 p.m. EST.

7-Flush Vote Count:
J (7) - Nabe, Vanderzant, Swiss, Xatres, X1-12
Cello - J, Dark Horse,

7-Flush vote ends the same point the day ends.

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

Cello, why do you want to save J from dying, exactly? I'm not understanding the motive here.

 

[Xivii]

I agree with X1. J should die from flush and glg should hammer DH since you refuse for M-K to.

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

If you want a DH hammer, Zen, then you should place your vote on DH in support of that.

I also agree that the J flush/DH lynch plan is still good. Again, not seeing the reasoning here.

 

[#HBC | Dark Horse]

unvote flush 7 Flush -7 J

 

[Cello_Marl]

I like J and wanted him to live. It's not too much of an issue if he dies though.

 

[X1-12]

J just outed to me in our QT that he is scum. Flush 7 kill J, and lynch DH.

I will hammer if need be, at this point I'd gladly get bombed to kill DH and J

Kupo!

Unvote
Vote: Zen

 

[#HBC | J]

I believe I found something out. Kupo!

Alright wasn't some other townsmembers in a similar scenario as myself/X1? There is GLG/Seph. Let us look at these posts.

I wont be able to post till Monday. My dad needs my labtop (It was origionally his) for work. I may be able to get on a comp on Friday, but it will be short and will only be around 11ish.

Since I'm probably going to be lynched today, I might as well claim, since I wont be able to do anything soon anyways.

I'm Strago, I'm a hated player that means I require one less vote to die.

I also have another ability, but if I live till Friday, I'll let you know what it is.

Guys don't ****ing lynch seph he's actually strago.

It's the truth. I'll bet you all the money in my pocket he's Strago.

Should we lynch him now just because he's hated?

No, I'm town. MK would you like me to claim?

My role does not specifically state that he is town. It does same we can communicate, but his alignment is not specifically stated.

Is this going to turn into one of those "if he's not scum I'm scum situations?"

Since I claimed to seph would it be a good idea for me to claim publicly?

What happened when Seph flipped? He flipped scum and GLG looks horrible for trying to defend his mason/lover buddy. I am going to take a stand and say that GLG = 100% town and X1 has to be mafia. The reason being is because I am in exactly the same scenario as GLG.

Let us look at X1's ability.

X1 is Umaro, Raging Sasquatch. He has asked me in the QT if I had an adjective that goes with my name. He stressed the urgency on this matter. Let us look at who has died so far.

The Dead:
1. Sephiroths Masamune (Strago, Mafia Hated Blue Mage)
2. Tandora (Celes, Town Mass Roleblocker)

Now let us compare to who is being talked about at the current time.

Strago, HATED Blue Mage
Umaro, RAGING Sasquatch

Celes, Town Mass Roleblocker
Mog, Town Voteblocker

Similarities eh? Also let us take this into consideration:

X1 literally controls my PR. He controls my fate if he were to die. Also here is an evil part of it: If I were to have died without outing X1 he could have easily just claimed that he was my mason buddy and that we both were linked the entire time. He could have claimed that my ability was made to "counter-act" his since he has to vote in every single post. He literally had it made if I were lynched/vig killed. I was never going to be a target of the mafia because X1 had me wrapped around his little finger. He kept on telling me to make posts that said we were lovers and I followed blindly. Also by me claiming to be his buddy it could have possibly cleared him as town.

Also WHY would a townsmember have complete control over another townsmember where they could manipulate them into helping them lest their entire role pm would be released and they would lose their ability? WHY does nothing happen to X1 if I were to die? WHY is X1 sitting so pretty if he is a townsmember?

X1 = Mafia 100% IDC If I die with the 7-Flush vote thing. We just need X1 to die. He is mafia. His death will also prove the similarity between the mafiate members having similar adjectives that co-incide with their restrictions. X1 has to vote every post. Seph required one less vote to lynch him. If X1 does flip town (which he will not), I need to die ASAP.

It is either me or X1 to being Mafia. We both know who is lieing and I will die/lose my ability/w/e to prove this.

Kupo!

 

[#HBC | J]

J just outed to me in our QT that he is scum. Flush 7 kill J, and lynch DH.

I will hammer if need be, at this point I'd gladly get bombed to kill DH and J

Kupo!

Unvote
Vote: Zen

Bull****. Why the hell would a TOWNSMEMBER lie about this? I did not out myself as Mafia. I called him mafia so he came back here to say that I was mafia. He knows that he is dead once I am lynched so he will hammer DH to kill himself/our town bomb/our VB.

Kupo! Kupo! Kupo!

 

[X1-12]

Bull****. Why the hell would a TOWNSMEMBER lie about this? I did not out myself as Mafia. I called him mafia so he came back here to say that I was mafia. He knows that he is dead once I am lynched so he will hammer DH to kill himself/our town bomb/our VB.

Kupo! Kupo! Kupo!

If I knew I was dead as soon as you flipped town I would push you, get you lynched then get myself lynched the next day, rather than getting it all out of the way in 1 day so scum have less NKs.


Unvote
Vote: Swiss

Kupo!

 

[X1-12]

J you should have no problem with you dieing if I die too. Unless you are scum. Unless you know DH is lieing about the bomb thing? scumteam?


Tell me why its not OK for me you and DH to die toDay

Kupo!

Unvote
Vote: X1-12

 

[X1-12]

J is viewing DGames,, not posting,,

Kupo!

Unvote
Vote: Cello_Marl

 

[#HBC | J]

J you should have no problem with you dieing if I die too. Unless you are scum. Unless you know DH is lieing about the bomb thing? scumteam?


Tell me why its not OK for me you and DH to die toDay

Kupo!

Unvote
Vote: X1-12

IDK if DH is lieing about the bomb thing =/

I have no problem with dieing but grrr you are mafia. You need to die. It is up to Cello if I live or not. Leave it at that. If you die I am cleared as you have said in the QT.

Kupo!

 

[#HBC | J]

J is viewing DGames,, not posting,,

Kupo!

Unvote
Vote: Cello_Marl

....really? *facepalm*

Kupo!

 

[M.K]

X1-12 is looking like a really good lynch candidate.

 

[X1-12]

eh me hammering dh and J being flush 7d will solve problem. Kupo! unvote vote: metakirby more 2moro

 

[Life]

Everytime I come here there's crazy new developments.

@mod request votecount before I make any decisions.

 

[Overswarm]

Votecount:
J (3) - MOD, MOD, MOD,
Meta-Kirby (2) - Zen, X1-12
Darkhorse (4) - Nabe, Xatres, Vanderzant, Meta-Kirby,
X1-12 (1) - J

Not Voting - Cello_Marl, InferiorityComplex, BSL, RocketPSIence, giraffeslasergun, Swiss, Dark Horse,

With 14 alive, it takes 8 to lynch.
A deadline has been set for Thursday, December 2nd, at 3:00 p.m. EST.

7-Flush Vote Count:
J (6) - Nabe, Vanderzant, Swiss, Xatres, X1-12, Dark Horse,
Cello (1) - J,

7-Flush vote ends the same point the day ends.


rPSI may need a replacement; stated he is V/LA due to being grounded, have no idea when that ends. If anyone knows him IRL or anything, try to get him to state if he can continue playing.

 

[#HBC | Dark Horse]

Vote: Dark Horse

 

[#HBC | J]

Dark Horse put your Flush Vote on Cello to stick to his plan.

Also why are you voting yourself now....? -_-"

Kupo!

 

[Cello_Marl]

@X1: Quote your QuickTopic logs in their entirety. That will get you modkilled and, if you are telling the truth, will prove that J claimed to be mafia. This will also result in J's death since the Day will end.

 

[Life]

Many thanks OS. Anyway, looks like J is effectively dead unless the tie vote happens. Seems X1 is itching to hammer DH, but I'm wondering if he'll follow through when DH hits L-1. On that note, rPSI is grounded, eh? Not good if the replacement comes in at the last second and misses the opportunity for the vig kill.

Since I'm liking this plan:
Vote: Dark Horse
7-Flush Vote: J
The former is to make executing the plan for toDay easier (normally I'm not a fan of hammering early, but with Thanksgiving break on the horizon this will help us sort through the next cycle's flips). The latter is to make an even number of the 7-flush votes so we can tie without anyone else voting--if Cello asks me I'll switch it to him, but right now I don't know if I should vote Cello, as if the votes are tied all it will take is one scum last-minute vote to kill the Cop. Cello might be fine with that since it outs scum, but I'm not as Cello's role basically wins us the game if we can keep him alive for a couple more Days.

 

[Cello_Marl]

Nonoonononon take your vote off of dh.

 

[Cello_Marl]

InCom, take your vote OFF of DH, change in plan, change in plan.

I know this isn't our QT.

 

[Cello_Marl]

Also, the flush vote needs to be on me, not J.

 

[Life]

Nice outing there <.< @town should I claim while I'm at it?

Unvote
7-flush Vote: Cello

 

[#HBC | J]

whoa whoa whoa Cello why did you just out InCom? ;_;

Kupo!

 

[Cello_Marl]

No, you shouldn't. Name claim is OK, though.

 

[#HBC | J]

InCom I bet it's obvious at this point but please do

Kupo!

*side-note* Caaaaalled it.

 

[Cello_Marl]

The way that exchange would have looked, if I were to die, then scum could make InCom look like I wasn't in league with him. At any rate, do you see what I'm doing with asking X1 to post his logs?

 

[#HBC | J]

Cello. X1 is asleep and won't be back to post the logs till tomorrow.

Kupo!

 

[Life]

@J Not everything is as obvious as it seems.

I'm Sabin. I will confirm now that Cello is in fact Gau and that I do not know anything about Edgar (Edgar is Sabin's relative in FF6, wanted that out of the way). Cello also knows the full extent of my role, but I'd rather keep that quiet for now (although again Cello might be able to change my mind on this. BTW Cello, I see what you're doing now, but you ninja'd me so... ).

 

[Life]

So the plan is now to even out the 7-flush count and have X1 modkill himself? And if that's how it works out, if X1 flips scum that's a huge boon to town...

 

[Cello_Marl]

@Incom: I DIDN'T want you to flush vote for anyone! You were supposed to be our anti-scum extra vote buffer. We didn't really talk about it in detail, but I figured you understood what I meant.

Also, basically yes at what you just said.

@J: That's fine about X1, we have some time.

I'm going to disregard the possibility that J and X1 are double Jesters or Mimes or whatever that role is called. If that were the case, all they'd have to do is get X1 lynched (pretty easy, and something that they DIDN'T try to do on D1), then have J break his posting restriction until he could self-hammer to win.

They aren't simply scum. Coming out as "lovers" is something they wouldn't have ever done in this circumstance, considering there would be no way in hell people would let J live.

If they are in a scum infested neighborhood like Relm/Strago, then by having X1 post his logs, we get every possible good result. Assume that X1 is town for a moment. We will know that J actually admitted in their QT that he was scum, X1 will die and be shown to be town, and J will die from having the higher flush vote count. It is true that OS will likely interfere if this is the case, of course, probably by preventing J from dying and giving scum another NK or something. But the information is still out there. That makes it OK.

Now assume he's scum. He won't post the logs, because it is against his wincon to do so. We can then infer that he lied about J, and that J is in fact town. From there, we can plan out our flush-votes and coordinate the final hammer against X1. Since we don't have to worry about who actually hammers, it'll be easier than one against DH.

All of this will take time, time which will also effectively be devoted to either RPSI becoming ungrounded or finding a replacement. I want that kill or commuter ability (I'm actually thinking that Shadow is an Odd Night Vig/Even Night Something) or whatever it is that Shadow is.

 

[Life]

Sorry Cello :/

So... someone else will have to be that buffer? Or what?

 

[#HBC | J]

Should we start to make the votes on us more even Cello now or should we wait?

I am so annoyed at the position Nabe has put us in.

Kupo!