FF6 Mafia - GAME OVER! Mafia wins!

[#HBC | J]

See that's the thing there is only negative effects if you die because of what you have told me. If I die nothing bad happens to you at all. =/ It seems your life is more important then mine due to the fact you hold all of my powers and everything.

If your town hammer for me X1. <3 Remember we said we would be willing to die when the time is right and we should just try and get all the info we could so we could help the town. It is beneficial that we both die.

Kupo!

 

[X1-12]

See that's the thing there is only negative effects if you die because of what you have told me. If I die nothing bad happens to you at all. =/ It seems your life is more important then mine due to the fact you hold all of my powers and everything.

If your town hammer for me X1. <3 Remember we said we would be willing to die when the time is right and we should just try and get all the info we could so we could help the town. It is beneficial that we both die.

Kupo!

On the other hand, this game I've seen lots of self preservation from you, lots of AtE (fairly normal) and the negative effects of losing PRs are equal regardless who dies, the only difference is who is appearing more town in most's eyes, and who's flip will leave most information. Swiss knows I'm town -> vand knows I'm town so thats 2/3 of the major players. I feel no need to hammer, you should die by 7flush, and ideally Nabe or BSL. Maybe even Zen actually.

@Vand: What do you think of Zen? I feel he has pointed out why nabe is scummy, but not followed up, do you find this suspicious?

J and DH are dead, essentially, I'd like to remove Nabe, BSL or Zen from the equation to via possible bomb.

@ALL: J and DH are dead, who should we get to hammer (on pain of lynching that player)

Flush 7 Vote: J

Kupo!

Unvote
Vote: Swiss

 

[Cello_Marl]

@X1: You, X1.

 

[#HBC | J]

On the other hand, this game I've seen lots of self preservation from you, lots of AtE (fairly normal) and the negative effects of losing PRs are equal regardless who dies, the only difference is who is appearing more town in most's eyes, and who's flip will leave most information. Swiss knows I'm town -> vand knows I'm town so thats 2/3 of the major players. I feel no need to hammer, you should die by 7flush, and ideally Nabe or BSL. Maybe even Zen actually.

@Vand: What do you think of Zen? I feel he has pointed out why nabe is scummy, but not followed up, do you find this suspicious?

J and DH are dead, essentially, I'd like to remove Nabe, BSL or Zen from the equation to via possible bomb.

@ALL: J and DH are dead, who should we get to hammer (on pain of lynching that player)

Flush 7 Vote: J

Kupo!

Unvote
Vote: Swiss

Wait so X1 baby you believe me to mafia? I am already dead and I am town. Also IDC what the "major" players in this game think. Your acting weird with not being able to hammer. 1.) you have no PR besides being connected to me. 2.) Why should you not hammer besides having the urge not to? 3.) BSL is most likely town. 4.) I'd say Nabe is town with that much of a power control over the changing of votes for one time but I have no clue. 5.) No the negative effects are all on ME if YOU die. NOTHING happens to you if I die. 6.) You know the self-preservation is BS because idc now that all my info is in the open. I am dead and wanna get the most info out of my lynch.

Nabe/BSL = pretty much town at this point. Zen i would bet a penny he might be scum.

Cello, Force X1 to vote for DH. He needs to die as well as me.

@All: I INSIST X1 must die by hammering DH.

X1 - HAMMER DH. There is no bad in you not hammering him if you are town.

 

[Cello_Marl]

He's not going to hammer. Start moving your votes over to him.

 

[#HBC | J]

Unvote
Vote: X1-12

Kupo!

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

X1 hammering is cool, but I'd like to share the completely unfounded and crazy idea that J might be trying to pull X1 into the double death to satisfy some kind of one-sided win condition on his part. And to that extent, I'm also wondering if J mentioned lovers so much because he's a creepy one-sided stalker-lover, unbeknownst to X1.

But that's all silly and X1 should still do it.

 

[Cello_Marl]

@J: I've changed my mind about your fate. You will tie with me, and you'll be the X1 hammer.

Here is what I want to happen. Everyone will take off their J flush votes, except for Vanderzant. Vand, Swiss, Xatres, Nabe, and MK will vote for X1, then one of Zen, RPSI or BSL will vote for him after announcing a 30 minute warning. NO ONE ELSE IS TO VOTE FOR X1 AT THIS POINT. IF THEY DO, THEY ARE SCUM.

At this point, my mason recruiter will coordinate a lynch with J against X1. J will flush vote for me so we'll tie. We'll set aside a day for this to happen and set a time in thread. If ANYONE is on at that time, we'll delay the lynch until they are gone and view that with suspicion.

 

[X1-12]

@J: Its natural I'd rather someone who I think scummy hammers the bomb, rather than myself who I know to be town.

Want to hear from Vand/Swiss wrt hammering

Kupo!

Unvote
Vote: Cello_Marl

 

[X1-12]

I'd rather hammer DH, die and have J dies from 7flush than be lynched, and allow DH/J to live

Kupo!

Unvote
Vote: Swiss

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

Nabe I see @ your 242.

The tanny thing still doesn't make sense though, but it's not important. Why did you only ask Tanny though? You never played with me. And it doesn't seem you know of me either.

When I asked Tanny, you weren't active yet. I'll read that other game you're in when it finishes, I'm not in a hurry.

 

[Xivii]

Yeah good with J dying.

@X1: What do you mean I havn't followed up with Nabe? I was simply summing up my suspicion from yesterday because I never got to it thus never getting his defense. He's not a main concern right now at all so if by follow up, you mean voting that's because I see no reason to vote for him at this time. M-K is my main concern. I didn't want to forget about Nabe, but due to recent events (His caim, M-K needing to die, and Js outing) I feel he can be put aside for now. Though I'd rather him hammer DH instead of you if not M-K.

J what do you mean you'd bet I'm scum if you just thought felt I wasn't?

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

Everyone will take off their J flush votes, except for Vanderzant.

This is probably a good time for me to point out that I don't think you can unvote after flush-voting. You can only switch between the two.

@Mod: confirmation of that?

 

[Cello_Marl]

I'm investigating Zen toNight.

Zen, if you are good with J dying, then put your vote on DH, so J can put him at L-1 and X1 can hammer him. Nabe isn't hammering DH, ever.

 

[Xivii]

Cello I don't get what you're wanting me to do

 

[Xivii]

ninja ok hold up

 

[Cello_Marl]

@Zen: Vote for Dark Horse.

@Nabe: That's pretty important, but there is nothing I see that suggests what you are saying is the case.

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

Meta-Kirby (2) - Zen

Should this line read Meta-Kirby (1) - Zen?

 

[Xivii]

I'd like to know that before voting. o-o

Also Cello, M-K still needs to hammer DH.

 

[Cello_Marl]

ZEN, MK ISN'T HAMMERING DH.

X1 is. Now put your REAL vote on DH.

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

@Nabe: That's pretty important, but there is nothing I see that suggests what you are saying is the case.

w.r.t. 973?
I'm fairly certain it's the case. I'd like mod confirmation in thread, but we should move forward under the assumption that there are no flush-unvotes.

 

[Cello_Marl]

It doesn't particularly matter. If X1 hammers DH now, J will die anyway and that may be for the best anyway so he isn't a distraction. If not, then we'll just move 2 of the 5 currently on over and everything still works out.

 

[Xivii]

-___- fine. If M-K doesn't die through the night I'm going to be so ****ing pissed.

@mod: should my vote on M-K be read as (1) instead of (2)?

 

[#HBC | J]

Unvote Flush 7 Vote


You can unvote your Flush 7 votes because I have done this.

Zen, Why should I die now? Why shouldn't X1 hammer? Also I said I'd bet a penny. A penny is pretty much worthless but I still think you should be Investigated.

Cello, fine I am gonna just follow you blindly now. After X1 is dead then I am gonna be a plain VT. I am fine with hammering X1.

Kupo!

 

[#HBC | J]

Ninja'd sorry about that

Kupo!

 

[Xivii]

As I said, I wasn't sure until I heard from X1 whether or not you should die because you were claiming lovers. Seeing that you're not then I don't see why you should live.

Also I see. Never heard that before.

 

[X1-12]

Yeah good with J dying.

@X1: What do you mean I havn't followed up with Nabe? I was simply summing up my suspicion from yesterday because I never got to it thus never getting his defense. He's not a main concern right now at all so if by follow up, you mean voting that's because I see no reason to vote for him at this time. M-K is my main concern. I didn't want to forget about Nabe, but due to recent events (His caim, M-K needing to die, and Js outing) I feel he can be put aside for now. Though I'd rather him hammer DH instead of you if not M-K.

J what do you mean you'd bet I'm scum if you just thought felt I wasn't?

It felt somewhat like you gave reasons why he was scummy, but weren't pushing him, I've felt you've justified it sufficiently though. I agree that he's not a priority toDay.

Kupo!

Unvote
Vote: Zen

 

[Swiss]

Unvote 7 Flush Vote

Skimmed. Catching up when I get back from town.

 

[#HBC | Dark Horse]

unvoteflush 7 vote

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

I should probably point out that it's "7-Flush", not Flush 7.
And I'll stress again that I don't think the unvotes are doing anything.

DH, assuming that you could unvote, why are you doing so?

 

[#HBC | J]

Since it is not a lie I have to vote for myself. Please I am so sorry I could not be any more of a help to you guys then what I can in my final posts.

7-Flush Vote: J

Kupo!

Unvote Flush-7 Vote

Flush-7 Vote: Cello_Marl

We need to keep me and Cello and the same Number. That way we BOTH get the immunity. Nabe your still a moron.

@Cello: I am not revealing my lover until it is necessary. It is stupid to reveal it too soon.

Kupo!

7-Flush Vote Count:
J - Nabe, Vanderzant,
Cello - J

7-Flush vote ends the same point the day ends.

Kupo! Kupo! Kupo!

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

Point being?

If you had left out the unvote, your Cello vote still would have counted. It's the same thing with the normal votes too, no unvote required, and I can certainly track down the OS post where he says as much if you like.

 

[Xivii]

I don't think I've been made to double vote seeing as in the vote count before it was on 2 when Vandy was voting too. But I'll just wait for mod to confirm. Cello if you need DH @ L-1 asap then Swiss can just do it.

btw my reasoning for why M-K is scum/indy is not only because of the special info he has or because he was visiting Tandora, but because my meta on him is certain. I know M-Ks scum play and I have almost no doubt about it. He is most likely not telling us all he can do which is why I don't want him to be able to live into the night. But whatever happens, just know he is scum or indy.

 

[Overswarm]

Mod note: In no way did I say there was an "unvote" for 7-Flush votes. You can switch targets, but not unvote.

Mod note: The (2) after MK was a mod error, fixed in this votecount.


Votecount:
J (3) - MOD, MOD, MOD,
Cello_Marl (1) - X1-12
Meta-Kirby (1) - Zen
Darkhorse (4) - Nabe, Xatres, Vanderzant, Meta-Kirby,
X1-12 (1) - J

Not Voting - Cello_Marl, InferiorityComplex, BSL, RocketPSIence, giraffeslasergun, Swiss, Dark Horse,

With 14 alive, it takes 8 to lynch.
A deadline has been set for Thursday, December 2nd, at 3:00 p.m. EST.

7-Flush Vote Count:
J (7) - Nabe, Vanderzant, Swiss, Xatres, J, Dark Horse, X1-12
Cello -

7-Flush vote ends the same point the day ends.

 

[#HBC | Dark Horse]

Welp, we'll have to abandon cello's plan.

All aboard the J bandwagon.

 

[#HBC | J]

Well there is clarification Nabe. Now we must even it up to follow Cello's plan. If Me, Swiss, and DH switch to Cello then the entire thing will be even except that I have 1 more vote then Cello.

7-Flush vote: Cello_Marl

Cello, now that the info is that people who have 7-Flushed voted can't unvote do you still want to go through with the plan for both of us to survive?

Kupo!

 

[Cello_Marl]

Welp, we'll have to abandon cello's plan.

No we don't. My recruiter will vote for me to even things up.

DH, X1 and J can switch over to flush voting for me.

NOBODY ELSE VOTE OR MOVE YOUR VOTES, IF YOU DO, SCUM YADDA YADDA.

 

[#HBC | J]

Welp, we'll have to abandon cello's plan.

All aboard the J bandwagon.

Do you do anything helpful ever? *facepalm*

Kupo!

 

[Cello_Marl]

If scum wants to out themselves to kill me, that's fine by me.

 

[#HBC | Dark Horse]

Unvote, 7-flush vote: cello