FF6 Mafia - GAME OVER! Mafia wins!

[Cello_Marl]

OK, here's what we can do for the flush votes.

Vand and Xatres will move over to me, putting us at 4/4. We will then put X1 at L-2. BSL will have the honor of finishing off X1, and will coordinate with GLG, allowing them to add flush votes if they need to in order to put it back to even votes. We can do this around 11 pm EST, which would be 4 am across the pond, and abort the operation if X1 is here. He can't keep up that sort of schedule forever.

Ironically, this would be a lot easier if we had access to J's voteblocking ability.

 

[Xatres]

Not to be 'that guy,' but I'll just go ahead and be that guy...

Isn't requesting X1 to post chat logs kinda against the spirit of the game?

I'm much more comfortable with the original plan of having X1 hammer DH and J die by flush 7. :/

 

[Cello_Marl]

Oh, also, Locke should protect InCom and RPSI, 50/50 chance of each. Scum probably won't try for them if you do that, since they need to kill Locke to make progress, so this will make an effective deterrent.

 

[Cello_Marl]

X1 is the one who made the claim that J admitted to be scum. Since I don't believe that for a second, it won't be an issue.

 

[Swiss]

Cello, I cannot stress this enough. X1 is town.

Unsure on J now. Wanted him to live, might as well flush die. MK hammers DH.

MK is scum, Vanz is right, I am right.

/skimmed

 

[Swiss]

X1 explain how DH outed himself to you. Then tell me where, if anywhere, he lied in his #1012.

 

[Swiss]

Ugh. I meant J. Not DH.

 

[Cello_Marl]

Swiss, he was talking about their private QT. Do you really think J would say "HAhahahahaha, I'm scum"? And then PM him a Dahlia picture to top it all off.

 

[Swiss]

No. But neither do I think X1 or J is anywhere near devious enough to trick me.

I know X1. He lives and dies by my sword, and only mine.

He lives.

 

[Cello_Marl]

Cello, I cannot stress this enough. X1 is town.

If you have an investigative ability, then IT IS WRONG.

 

[Swiss]

We both know I don't have an investigative ability.

 

[#HBC | J]

Grr I wish I could just post what I said. The dag on liar is causing so much trouble >_<"

Kupo!

 

[Cello_Marl]

@J: I'm beginning to think it is going to be too much trouble to save you. I really really really want to, but what do you think?

 

[#HBC | J]

*sigh* It is going to be too much trouble to save me but I am gonna fight because I know I am right.

If I don't fight then I give up and then it is just weak.

We will take this to the final day of toDay if we have to. X1 is MAFIA. Get it through your heads. If we get X1 lynched that will proof EVERYTHING due to the fact my role pm and character is released. Gah upset but not gonna give up.

Kupo! Kupoooooo!

 

[Cello_Marl]

We will take this to the final day of toDay if we have to.

No, we won't. People won't move quickly enough for that.

X1 is going to hide behind Swiss. Everyone, just vote for X1 and end the Day. That's what we agreed to do, remember? Lynch anyone that refused to hammer. X1 refused in #962.

 

[#HBC | J]

So shall I die along side him Cello to please the town?

Whatever my death and info brought about a scum. ^^

Kupo!

 

[Cello_Marl]

I have no abilities other than the communication and the final scream.

Why did X1 get J's posting restriction?

@X1: Intentionally break your posting restriction. If you are willing to hammer DH, getting one MOD vote shouldn't be too much of an issue, right?

 

[#HBC | J]

Just to rule out the possibility. I have no absolute clue why he has my restriction. We did talk about it in the QT for a little bit. o_o

Kupo!

 

[Cello_Marl]

If we can convince Swiss that X1 is lying to us, then X1's argument of 2/3 "major players" or whatever it was holds no water. He'll then have no excuse for not hammering, and we'll be able to lynch him properly.

 

[#HBC | J]

Swiss, WHY exactly is X1 town?

Do not give me Meta or Gut reasoning dude. Give me facts as to why he is not mafia.

Kupo!

 

[Swiss]

X1 can answer me tomorrow when he wakes up.

Then I'll explain why or why not he is town/scum.

But he's town.

I've never been wrong about X1's alignment (when town).

Cello you'll just have to trust me. If you're town you have no reason not to assume I know exactly what I'm doing. Unless you're going to start WIFOM'ing yourself over my alignment, which even if scum, makes me even more likely to be correct about X1 being town.

 

[Xivii]

mass is an adjective

 

[#HBC | J]

Zen you know exactly what I mean -__-

And that's your post after seeing you view this entire time?

Kupo!

 

[vanderzant]

Been reading this thread this morning while doing stuff. I'll probably be read up but it's hard to keep track when our plan changes every 2 secs.

I might make a detailed list of what I think should happen with all the abilities and such. Anyone (apart from obvCello) object?

I'm voting DH and flush voting J iirc. Someone tell me if I should change, bbl.

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

J and Cello can both cool the hell down. I'm tired of hearing 5 different plans in the span of a page.

I absolutely agree with 1042. I hate hate haaaate this idea. There is no reason why DH/X1/J shouldn't go as originally planned and this is overcomplication to the extreme.

MK: please tell me you actually read the thread before you wrote 1019 and are going to come back to say something useful, or even something that acknowledges the thread in some way.

 

[#HBC | J]

Vandy I believe you need to switch your Flush vote over to Cello to make it 3-5. Also Cello said we are gonna lynch X1 toDay because he refused to Hammer DH. I'm looking forward to your thoughts on our list.

Nabe, I see you are viewing this thread. Switch your Flush vote to Cello so now it is completely even. Why did you cause all this? ;_;

Kupo! Kuuuuupo! Kupo!

 

[#HBC | J]

and boom goes the ninja

Kupo!

 

[#HBC | J]

J and Cello can both cool the hell down. I'm tired of hearing 5 different plans in the span of a page.

I absolutely agree with 1042. I hate hate haaaate this idea. There is no reason why DH/X1/J shouldn't go as originally planned and this is overcomplication to the extreme.

MK: please tell me you actually read the thread before you wrote 1019 and are going to come back to say something useful, or even something that acknowledges the thread in some way.

Heeeeellooo? Anyone in there? We are not deviating from Cello's plan. Why the hell would we? There is reasons why not to go with the orignal plan and it has been stated why. This is not overcomplication it is the right thing.

Remember Nabe YOU caused all this with using your ability that way. Gah I'm still furious at that. So be quiet and follow Cello like a good little townie alright? You've done enough.

Kupo!

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

Why the hell would we? There is reasons why not to go with the orignal plan and it has been stated why.

I'm sure you're ready to point out all those posts with reasoning, then, since you're taking on burden of proof by making that statement.

 

[M.K]

MK: please tell me you actually read the thread before you wrote 1019 and are going to come back to say something useful, or even something that acknowledges the thread in some way.

Of course I did. What I see, actually, is a relatively sound plan. I'd like X1-12 gone. I'm trying to find the one post that really laid it out for me and led to me to the conclusion which was expressed in 1019...

It was J's 1012 that convinced me. X1-12's play is all over the place. After realizing what Cello said about the Tanny lynch to be true, I mostly consider everyone after myself on the vote count to be fair game scum/town. I can't possibly say "cleared" because Cello pointed out that those people were basically put in a bad situation anyways IF scum. X1-12 is behind me in the order, so, I hold this to be true.

Also I don't understand the lying on X1-12's part of "J just admitted he's Mafia". X1-12 brought it up, J retaliated, and it was dropped. I may be going off my own reaction to my OWN auto-scum Strago information, but wouldn't you think if he really did it, he would have pursued it a bit more? But nah, he let the subject drop. It's strange.

 

[vanderzant]

7 flush vote: Cello

Also noticed that when earlier people tried to unvote there 7 flush, that removed there original vote.

If we're going to have X1 lynched (which I disagree with regardless) then he should at least be allowed to hammer DH. Didn't we consider it likely for DH to be scum? Why aren't we acting upon this ffs. I have a problem with late game DH considering how he's basically given up.

Nabe did you ever answer my question about why you're lynching J? I don't think you did. Must of got lost in all these pages.

We have
Cello: Cop
BSL: Tracker
rPSI: Some kind of killer I think
Mason dude

I thought I'd be able to have a strong read on both MK/Zen by now, but they're both too quiet. We know MK is likely indy and should be promptly killed, either by hammering DH or vig kill. Zen could be town, but there is no certain way of us knowing if he doesn't have a massive activity turn around. His inactivity johns seem to be legit, but that obv doesn't confirm him as town. His play here reminds me of his dGames mafia play, where he was suspicious mostly because he was quiet.

@Swiss, buddy, pal: does zen remind you at all of his pikmafia scum play?

Cello should coordinate his ability with his mason friend obv.

And Cello should most likely investigate Zen as he's said. Out of all of our quiet null status players, he is the most valuable as confirmed town. He'll be real strong in late game if confirmed.

Of course, considering our framer/tailor/lawyer/godfather talk it might be worthwile having a back up investigation, i.e. nabe.

Mason should recruit someone who won't die like glg/incom/xatres. Or me :D. Our doccy should protect me or someone else you think might die.

BSL should track someone scummy. Not sure if mafia have a designated killer or what, but revealing who you'll target probably shoudn't be done

Our flush vote should be made even of course, unless killing J is what town wants.

I'd really like to see MK hammer, but he won't of course. If X1 is willing to hammer DH that might work out. I'd like to see nabe hammer just because of how stern he is that J has to die.

 

[BSL]

J (3) - MOD, MOD, MOD,
Swiss (1) - X1-12
Meta-Kirby (2) - Vanderzant, Zen
Darkhorse (3) - Swiss, Dark Horse, Nabe

Not Voting - Cello_Marl, InferiorityComplex, Meta-Kirby, BSL, , J, Xatres, RocketPSIence, giraffeslasergun

With 14 alive, it takes 8 to lynch.
A deadline has been set for Thursday, December 2nd, at 3:00 p.m. EST.

so i am in DC for a school trip over throughout this week. i have very limited computer access, but i had my phone to play from.

my phone broke yesterday, and i cant fix it until i get home. saturday.

i can play some maybe if my friend lets me use his phone, but other than that, nothing.

i quoted that post because thats as far as i read before i have to go back to my room.

 

[vanderzant]

Oh wait no

Doc should protect rPSI how did I stuff that up lol.

 

[Xivii]

M-K why haven't you responded to me calling you obv scum lol

I'm in agreement with Nabe. Also I don't think X1 said J said he was scum. I thought he just said he outed himself, meaning J said something outed him as scum.

At any rate the day absolutely cannot be ended until rPSI/replacement confirms they are to shoot M-K.

 

[Life]

Mason should recruit someone who won't die like glg/incom/xatres

Skim less

MK brings up something interesting, that X1 did not pursue J being scum. I really hope X1 catches some sleep tonight, he's gonna need it...

 

[#HBC | J]

J just outed to me in our QT that he is scum. Flush 7 kill J, and lynch DH.

I will hammer if need be, at this point I'd gladly get bombed to kill DH and J

Kupo!

Unvote
Vote: Zen

Zen. X1 did say that I am scum. Right here. Read. Also you are being VERY defensive as to us not lynching X1.

@Nabe: I will get to you in a bit when I calm down. Just answer me this while I do. Why are you so adamant on my death? You have NEVER explained this and kept saying I need to die. However I hope to god you re-read and realize what I mean before I post as to why we are doing this plan.

Kupo!

 

[vanderzant]

Skim less

MK brings up something interesting, that X1 did not pursue J being scum. I really hope X1 catches some sleep tonight, he's gonna need it...

Didn't skim

Was trying to not make it obvious >.<

 

[Xivii]

I interpret that as you saying something that makes him think you're scum. I'm not in his defense, I just think you're scummier than he is, and I trust Swiss at the moment.

 

[Cello_Marl]

If I should say or do anything that does not coincide with anything that InCom says, believe him over me.

 

[Life]

Because

I know this isn't our QT

doesn't immediately warrant damage control anyway? No need to take such precautions as I'm sure scum can read.

Don't take it personally.