FF6 Mafia - GAME OVER! Mafia wins!

[Sephiroths Masamune]

This was my worst game, and what makes it worse was that my dad really did need my comp which made me claim. I think this game would have gone alot differently if I didn't claim and MK didn't out me.

 

[rPSIvysaur]

@Cello - Yes and no. I really didn't like MK as a player in this game. However, I did it because as an indy, I wanted to not have to do exactly as town had wanted me to do (which was in this case kill Swiss; at which point, I was reluctant to).

 

[#HBC | J]

NABE WAS TOWN?!

*goes to cry*

Fun game but I never EVER want to have a posting restriction again. After me and Swiss died it went downhill. Also I was sooo scared about X1 being scum.

Lynching GLG = not smart. He was 100% town to me, Swiss, and Cello who all were town. *siiiiiiigh*

Vandy bro your too good. =D rPSI, ;_; sad you didn't win.

 

[Xivii]

I'm never challenging Cello as scum again.

 

[giraffelasergun]

the sad part is right after i was lynched i realized vand was scum and that dh couldn't have blocked because we lynched a townie the day before, and the last day too.


Overall I really enjoyed this game and I was surprised that it ended up being indie/mafia/town as the last three.

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

the sad part is right after i was lynched i realized vand was scum and that dh couldn't have blocked because we lynched a townie the day before, and the last day too.

No, DH could roleblock as long as he himself wasn't on a townie lynch.

 

[giraffelasergun]

True.

I shouldn't have butted in and said kill nabe though.

 

[Nicholas1024]

I'm never challenging Cello as scum again.

Heh. If I'm ever scum with Cello town, I'm just going to agree with him 100%, and NK him ASAP. (Of course, considering that I usually agree with Cello at least 95%, that won't look too different from my regular play. )

 

[vanderzant]

Fun game, the one thing I disliked is the fact that it was basically a "follow the cop" game (or more specifically, follow the Cello ).

The scum team had potential to devastate, but a day 1 mass claim (which pretty much happened) was incredibly pro-town (which I don't think it ever should be)

Assuming everyone character claimed, Strago would be the first lynch. Kefka would take heat for having that sort of info in there role pm.

If we also role claimed, Edgar (Zen) would most likely be lynched for lack of a good role to claim, and I would be one of those "liability" slots like J unless I made up a decent fake claim (which is just ridiculous when you take into account that OS gives everyone a PR, and it's a 16 player game).

Additionally, we had no roleblocker or godfather or ANYTHING to stop the Cop claiming and just being protected. Especially since Swiss was an informed miller.

Though mass claiming is rare, It still happened, and I think that was the main problem I had with the set up.

The red herrings town had to deal with sort of made up for it though.

I have to say Cello played brilliantly while he was alive, nailed both Seph on Day 1 (and you almost copped Zen N1). You were never too convinced of my alignment either until I claimed Terra too.

Also Nabe, wtf was with that Slave Crown crap you were pulling on me. While I was scum, all of your reasoning (apart from me being a doublevoter) for wanting me lynched were utter garbage.

Game over.

Roles coming soon.

Just to start discussion: Dark Horse roleblocked nabe the last two Nights. :B

Oh wow. I just assumed he had forgot how his ability worked lol.

Why would you ever allow a double-voter into 3 man LYLO?

BECAUSE WE HAD CONFIRMED SCUM BETWEEN NABE/GLG

Aww yeah Vand I knew you could do it :D!!

Cheeyea boi x3

Woo yeah I'm pretty pleased with myself :D. Wish you'd of been more active though

rPSI, you should've hit Vand in the night. DH being the scumkill was a sure thing, and I'm fairly sure I'd have gone after Gova.

Vand, when you killed BSL, I thought it might've been someone framing you, rather than you saving your ***. I'm sure on your end it seemed obvious, but on my end it was too obvious, lol, that was the problem. And GLG not claiming a track on BSL didn't help.

Yeah I basically had to kill him, I had no choice .

@cello, this game was like walking on glass shards holding a hemophiliac baby and balancing fine china on my head. Not only for the 16-person set up (daunting for a "last survivor" Indie), but also because my powers were actually pretty limited w/o confirming I was Kefka (ie, Goner).

Despite a loss, I'm actually kinda happy how I played here. Thoughts on my game?

I don't think you should of claimed you had that info on Strago (as it was pretty powerful info) but instead just pushed him to make yourself look better. It only drew attention to yourself in a bad way. Don't get into WIFOM situations like "why would I do that as an indy??"

I wouldn't of claimed that immunity thing either, as it reeked that you could bypass other PR's.

Funny how in the last OS game the wolf pack was all town, and here we were all scum

This was my worst game, and what makes it worse was that my dad really did need my comp which made me claim. I think this game would have gone alot differently if I didn't claim and MK didn't out me.

Sorry bro, I thought your claim would save you somewhat. At least we won in the end lol.

NABE WAS TOWN?!

*goes to cry*

Fun game but I never EVER want to have a posting restriction again. After me and Swiss died it went downhill. Also I was sooo scared about X1 being scum.

Lynching GLG = not smart. He was 100% town to me, Swiss, and Cello who all were town. *siiiiiiigh*

Vandy bro your too good. =D rPSI, ;_; sad you didn't win.

LOL

J what was up with that hardcore buddying before you died. I was like "oh no J's going to flip mafia traitor lol"

Fun game again, thanks OS!

 

[vanderzant]

Also, here is the epic scum quick topic lulz

http://www.quicktopic.com/45/H/We5gEDb96tB

 

[Cello_Marl]

Here's Mr. Gau's Neighborhood. It is pretty sparse, but my QTs usually are unless I'm not told my Sibling is confirmed to be my alignment.

http://www.quicktopic.com/45/H/hfbbuYaYCHdb

 

[Overswarm]

Fun game, the one thing I disliked is the fact that it was basically a "follow the cop" game (or more specifically, follow the Cello ).

The scum team had potential to devastate, but a day 1 mass claim (which pretty much happened) was incredibly pro-town (which I don't think it ever should be)

Assuming everyone character claimed, Strago would be the first lynch. Kefka would take heat for having that sort of info in there role pm.

If we also role claimed, Edgar (Zen) would most likely be lynched for lack of a good role to claim, and I would be one of those "liability" slots like J unless I made up a decent fake claim (which is just ridiculous when you take into account that OS gives everyone a PR, and it's a 16 player game).

Additionally, we had no roleblocker or godfather or ANYTHING to stop the Cop claiming and just being protected. Especially since Swiss was an informed miller.

Though mass claiming is rare, It still happened, and I think that was the main problem I had with the set up.

Edgar and Terra are supposed to have trouble with claims. Strago can save them both if he gets an ability later (he can use one ability "for" edgar or terra), but for the most part they're supposed to have trouble.

Town is also filled with a ton of false leads and issues. Cyan is a roleblocking bomb. Celes is a public mass roleblocker. Both are town. Kappa is a miller that knows things scum would already know. Their cop can't vote, Relm's ability can't be confirmed, Relm is in a masonry with Strago and Shadow is an independent, Edgar and Sabin are brothers, etc., etc.

Mass claims ALWAYS help town. Always, in every game.

At first.

But just like in this game, too much information makes town eat themselves alive.

Cello made the game in town's favor in the beginning, but shortly after that he pushed Town towards a loss; he did a good job of constantly changing his mind and retrieving new information, but he had set it up to be a "follow the cop" game (one that is designed to promote indy panic, mind you). Once Cello got off track and then died, town was in a downward spiral for a while.

I just wish Kefka had used "Goner". That would have been awesome.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

But just like in this game, too much information makes town eat themselves alive.

This. So true. I hate games where EVERYONE's role is revealed and immediately directed. It's... BLEH.

 

[rPSIvysaur]

I think that it's so funny that Shadow had a safer claim than anyone else in town.

 

[BSL]

Loner Streak: For all investigations, you will be treated as an independent.

Gosh, well would ya just look at that... You mean it wasn't a scum slip?

 

[M.K]

Just so everyone knows, I had a power that caused a situation in which ONE vote would have been the lynch in exactly one hour.
I was so hesitant to use it since I was hiding behind the "Kefka is not in the game" possibility AND it was specifically stated that the power's flavor name is one of Kefka's attacks. If it had got out that Kefka was in the game, it would've eventually come to me.

 

[rPSIvysaur]

Too bad I ended up killing you. lol
Sorry, but it really ended up helping me in game.

 

[vanderzant]

@OS: Yeah the misleading info obviously DID end up making up for it, I just don't like the idea that the cop could openly claim Day 1 and start getting results until the mafia happen to take out the doc.

Powers the mafia had did offset it in terms of balance, but it didn't actually remove what I considered to be the problem.

I don't like follow the cop scenarios, and ultimately feel it hurts the quality of the game.

No one (except Swiss lol) wanted to lynch me because they thought I had acted scummy, it was simply because they were being spoon fed by Cello/BSL's results all game and that I was a liability that needed to be taken out.

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

I thought you were scummy.

I didn't care enough to make a case, because the Swiss/Vand/Nabe triad got set up and I didn't have to.

 

[Chuckie]

^ Exactly what I mean. And by me I mean vanderzant :D

 

[Overswarm]

@OS: Yeah the misleading info obviously DID end up making up for it, I just don't like the idea that the cop could openly claim Day 1 and start getting results until the mafia happen to take out the doc.

Powers the mafia had did offset it in terms of balance, but it didn't actually remove what I considered to be the problem.

I don't like follow the cop scenarios, and ultimately feel it hurts the quality of the game.

No one (except Swiss lol) wanted to lynch me because they thought I had acted scummy, it was simply because they were being spoon fed by Cello/BSL's results all game and that I was a liability that needed to be taken out.

"Follow the cop" games are generally in detriment to town save for late game, so not a big deal to me. It effectively makes town's doctor useless, too.

 

[Overswarm]

The FF6 BBR game has been moved here for your viewing pleasure.

 

[Swiss]

OS, do you have thoughts on each individual players play this game (not just me)? I'd be interested to see it from a Mod's perspective.

 

[Overswarm]

I'll have those soon, been busy with Xmas stuff