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FF6 Mafia - GAME OVER! Mafia wins!

rPSIvysaur

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What day ability? ~.~

Anyway, as for me:
NK Vand if GLG flips scum
NK Nabe if GLG flips town?
 

#HBC | Dark Horse

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However, his doublevoting ability could kill the town ToMorrow (if there us some variable that we haven't accounted for, such as a traitor), while nabe doesn't have the convenient doublevoting technique. That's why you should shoot vans, and I RB nabe.
 

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DH you should basically make sure you DON'T roleblock the same person that rPSI is killing.

If you roleblock me after we kill another scum, that clears me as town.

Alternatively, if you roleblock the last scum then there is 4 alive anyway so if I were scum, I couldn't double vote and auto win anyway. make sense?

We know there is scum between Nabe/Glg. Or Gova but like much less likely
 

Overswarm

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GLG (4 )- Nabe, Are-Sigh, Dark Horse, Vanderzant
Nabe (1) - GLG

With 6 alive, it takes 4 to lynch!
A deadline has been set for Dec. 23rd at 3:00 p.m. EST



Giraffelasergun (Relm, Town Ability-Copier) has been lynched!


Night actions are due by Dec. 22nd at 3:00 p.m. EST
Send in Night Actions faster, Day starts faster


Mod note: The Day phase will be extended slightly due to Christmas festivities.

 

Overswarm

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Dark Horse (Cyan, Town Roleblocker) has been killed!



Nabe (Setzer, Town Gambler) has been killed! A shuriken was the tool for this kill.




With 3 alive it takes 2 to lynch!
A deadline has been set for Dec. 28th at 3:00 p.m.


Remaining players:
Inferiority (Gova)
RocketPSIence (Are-Sigh)
Vanderzant
 

Overswarm

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Vand (1) - Are-Sigh

Not voting: Vand, Gova

With 3 alive it takes 2 to lynch!
A deadline has been set for Dec. 28th at 3:00 p.m.
 

Overswarm

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Vand (1) - Are-Sigh
Are-Sigh (2) - Vanderzant, Vanderzant

Not voting: Gova

With 3 alive it takes 2 to lynch!

Are-Sigh (Shadow, Independent Assassin) has been lynched!





Gova (Sabin, Town Mason Recruiter) has been end-gamed!




SCUM WINS

Vanderzant (Terra, Mafia Doublevoter) wins!

 

Overswarm

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Game over.

Roles coming soon.

Just to start discussion: Dark Horse roleblocked nabe the last two Nights. :B
 

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MVP goes to Vanderzant, obviously, because WTF.

That makes Vanderzant having MVP in BOTH OF MY GAMES. GJ Vanderzant.
 

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Here are the roles. I think one person needed to be given some info that I forgot to put in their role, but I forget who... so if you see something squirrely it was probably that. :B

Overswarm said:


Locke- Town Doctor

Welcome to Final Fantasy VI Mafia, Xatres. You are Locke, the TREASURE HUNTER and trail-worn traveler… or were before you decided to settle down with Celes. You also are stricken with hero syndrome, and have vowed to protect any woman in danger.

Active Abilities

Protect : Each Night, you can send me the PM of one player you wish to protect from a mafia kill. You are not able to protect yourself. Should you protect the victim, it will be announced that Locke Cole protected the victim.

Passive Abilities

True Love: You are able to communicate freely with Tandora, Celes Chere. You may communicate through IMs, PMs, e-mail, etc., but must send me transcripts of all your conversations. Feel free to make a quick topic if you'd like.

Posting restrictions

You have to post "I promise" once per Game Day. The words can be in the middle of another sentence or said on their own, but the complete phrase must be intact. If you do not, your abilities and identity will be given to the mafia come nightfall. (“I promise I love cookies” would work, but “I can promise you I love cookies” would not)


Restrictions

If someone votes for Tandora, Celes Chere, you are not allowed to post until all votes for Celes are unvoted unless you vote for one of the people currently voting for Celes in your post or are currently voting for one of those voting for Tandora.

Win Condition:
You are town aligned and win when all threats to the town have been eliminated.
Overswarm said:


Celes- Town Mass Roleblocker

Welcome to Final Fantasy VI Mafia, Tandora. You are Celes, a battle hardened knight and the product of genetic engineering. Once a tough, unforgiving general, your comrades have softened you a bit. You’ve grown rather close to Locke Cole in particular.

Active Abilities

Runic: publicly post the ability code below. No active abilities may be used until a new day starts. You must wait one full day without using this ability before using it again [so if you use it day 1, you can use it again on day 3]. This stops both day and night actions, but does not stop lynchings or mafia kills. Any ability used before your post will still go on as normal. Passive abilities are unaffected. Your character identity will be announced with the use of this ability.

Ability code:

"Celes has used Runic!

No one may use any active abilities until a new day starts. This includes Night actions, but does not include mafia kills or lynchings. Passive abilities still apply. Celes may not use this the following day."

Passive ability
True Love: You are able to communicate freely with Xatres, Locke Cole. You may communicate through IMs, PMs, e-mail, etc., but must send me transcripts of all your conversations. Feel free to make a quick topic.

Win Condition:
You are town aligned and win when all threats to the town have been eliminated.

Overswarm said:


Sabin- Town Mason Recruiter

Welcome to Final Fantasy VI Mafia, InferiorityComplex. You are Sabin, the muscle-bound fighter of Figaro. You might not be the smartest of the group, but your brute strength is more than enough to be of aid.

Active ability:

Helping hand: This is a one-time use ability. You can PM me the name of one player and I will send the message “InferiorityComplex, Sabin the martial artist, sends you a friendly greeting. He would like to communicate with you. You can now talk to each other through PMs, IMs, etc., and are required to send all transcripts to me.

Scan: This is a one-time use ability. It will determine if someone is town aligned or not.

Posting Restriction

You must post "You could be my friend if you weren't my enemy" before you are killed. If you do not, the mafia get to kill a second player the night you are killed.

Restriction

If you die and have used your “helping hand” ability, whoever you used your ability on will have their name and ability, but not their allegiance, posted publicly.

Win Condition:
You are town aligned and win when all threats to the town have been eliminated.

Overswarm said:


Cyan- Town Roleblocker

Welcome to Final Fantasy VI Mafia, Dark Horse. You are Cyan, the Mechanophobic knight of Doma Castle. You uphold honor and regularly put your life on the line for your companions.

Active abilities:

Stunner: once a Night, you can choose a player and block their abilities by PMing me their name.

Passive Abilities:

Counter: If you are lynched, whoever was the final vote for you will die.

Restrictions:
Wrexsoul: If you are voting for someone who is lynched and this person is a member of the town, you may not use your active or passive ability until a day phase has passed. (If you lynch a townie on D1, you can’t use your abilities on N1 (active) or D2 (passive), but can on N2)


Win Condition:
You are town aligned and win when all threats to the town have been eliminated.
Overswarm said:


Setzer- Town Gambler

Welcome to Final Fantasy VI Mafia, Nabe. You are Setzer, the gambling airship enthusiast. You know what you like and you know what you don’t, and you’ve happened to grow rather fond of your companions. Whoever the traitors are, they need to be sniffed out.

Active Abilities:

7-Flush - Choose any two players to be part of a second voting action. All players in the game, including yourself, will have the ability to post "7-Flush Vote: (name)". The person with the most votes at the end of the day will die. The surviving player will be immune to all abilities and cannot be killed the following night. If there is a tie vote, both players get immunity to all abilities and cannot by killed the following night.
This ability is a one-time use for the entire game. When your post number is a multiple of 7 (post #7, #14, #21, #28...), you can then post the ability code below. If your post is not a multiple of 7 for any reason, the ability will fail and be unusuable.

Ability code:

“Setzer used 7-Flush!
Regular voting continues, but you may now make a 7-Flush vote by typing “7-Flush Vote: (name)”. (Insert Player of your choosing) and (Insert Other Player of your choosing) are the only players you can vote for with a 7-Flush Vote. The person with the most votes on them at the end of the day will die and cannot be protected in any way. The surviving player will be immune to all abilities and cannot be killed the following Night. If there is a tie vote, both players get immunity to all abilities and cannot be lynched the following night.

This ability can only be used once and can only be used if the post # it is used in is a multiple of 7. If the post number is not a multiple of 7, this ability has failed and may not be used again.”

Posting restriction #1: You must post "How low can you get? I love it!" at least once before you are able to vote or use your ability.

Posting restriction #2: Your post number must be a multiple of 7 when you use your ability. If you get ninja'd, you may not edit your post, and your ability will fizzle. You only get one shot at this!

Win Condition:
You are town aligned and win when all threats to the town have been eliminated.
Overswarm said:


Gau- Town Cop

Welcome to Final Fantasy VI Mafia, Cello Marl. You are Gau, the wild child from the Veldt. You lack manners and basic grammatical structure, but have a pure heart and mean well.

Active abilities:
Leap: You can investigate one player per night, but only if you have not voted the previous day. This will give you the name of the player’s character and will be notified if they are mafia.

Win Condition:
You are town aligned and win when all threats to the town have been eliminated.
Overswarm said:


Kappa – Town Knowledgeable Miller

Welcome to Final Fantasy VI Mafia, Swiss. You are Kappa, the imp! You're weak, green, fall down a lot, and really aren't that great in a fight. Despite these drawbacks, you are incredibly intelligent and know a thing or two and can really help people out if you can only get them to believe you...

Restrictions: You are a miller. This means you are a town player that, if investigated by someone, will turn up guilty (mafia) even though you are innocent.

Special Information
Shadow is not mafia.

Cyan Garamonde kills the person who hammers him (gives the vote required to lynch him)

Umaro is town.

Win Condition
You are town aligned and win when all threats to the town have been eliminated.

Overswarm said:


Siegfried – Town Tracker

Welcome to Final Fantasy VI Mafia, BSL. You are Siegfried, the treasure hunting swordsman. You’ve had some trouble with these Heroes in the past, but that’s all behind you. Life has been good since the fall of Kefka, and you’d like to see it stay that way. They might not see why, but they don’t have to. You just have to help them get to the bottom of this.

Active Abilities:

Tracker: Each Night, you may PM me a name. You will be told who that character visits. Masonries count as a visit, and if a masonry exists it will count as a visit every Night.

Restrictions:
Loner Streak: For all investigations, you will be treated as an independent.

Win condition: You are town aligned and win when all threats to the town have been eliminated.

Overswarm said:


Umaro- Town Raging Sasquatch

Welcome to Final Fantasy VI Mafia, X1-12. You are Umaro, the raging sasquatch. You are tactless and aggressive, but you never fail to get the game going. Be prepared to explain yourself, but remember that giving your identity away could prove fatal for you or your buddy, Mog!

Passive abilities

Narshe Caves: You are chummy with J, the moogle Mog. You may communicate with each other at any time. Use instant messangers to communicate and you are required to send me all transcripts. Feel free to make a quick topic.

Final Cry: Upon your death, the name of your partner, Mog, will be posted publicly. Mog will no longer be able to use his abilities.

Restrictions:
You must vote in every post you make, and may never vote “No lynch”. (You may not vote for the same person twice in a row)

Win Condition:
You are town aligned and win when all threats to the town have been eliminated.

Overswarm said:


Mog- Town Voteblocker

Welcome to Final Fantasy VI Mafia, J. You are Mog, the funky dancing moogle! Your cute appearance and vibrant dance moves don’t lead to much suspicion on their own, but the fact that your actions always occur out in the open makes you a prime target. Use your abilities carefully!

Active ability:

Snare: publicly post the ability code below and choose a player. This player’s vote does not count for this day. You may only use this ability once per Day.

Ability code:
“Ability Use: Snare on (player). That player’s vote does not count for this day. You may only use this ability once per Day.”

Passive ability:

Narshe Caves: You are chummy with X1-12, the sasquatch Umaro. You may communicate with each other at any time. Use instant messangers to communicate and you are required to send me all transcripts. Feel free to make a quicktopic.

Restrictions: You have to say “kupo!” in every post. (seriously)

Win Condition:
You are town aligned and win when all threats to the town have been eliminated.
Overswarm said:


Relm- Town Ability-Copier

Welcome to Final Fantasy VI Mafia, Giraffelasergun. You are Relm, the young artist whose paintings come to life… literally. You’re a bit foul-mouthed and spunky, but that doesn’t stop you from doing the right thing.

Active abilities:

Sketch: Once per Night, you can PM me the name of a player. You will copy that player's used ability and use it on that player. You will not be notified what the ability is, only whether your ability succeeded or failed. (Your ability will fail if they do not have an active ability being used that night)

Family ties:
You are able to communicate freely with Sephiroths Masamune, Strago Magus. You may communicate through IMs, PMs, e-mail, etc., but must send me transcripts of all your conversations. Feel free to make a quicktopic.

Posting restriction
You have to quote someone and use the word picture, portrait, sketch, draw/drawing, or paint/painting in that post before being able to use your ability on that person. Please PM me with the post that shows you doing it when you PM me your ability use.

Win Condition:
You are town aligned and win when all threats to the town have been eliminated.


MAFIA

Overswarm said:


Strago- Mafia Blue Mage

Welcome to Final Fantasy VI Mafia, Sephiroths Masamune. You are Strago, the island blue mage. After Kefka’s demise and the weakening of Espers and their magic, you found your blue magic to be much stronger than traditional magic. With all this power at your fingertips, it’d be a shame to let it go to waste… but your companions have grown much too powerful. Take them out in secret and the world is your oyster.

Active ability
Lore: when someone uses an ability on you and you survive, you gain that ability whether it succeeded or failed. You may only use two active abilities per day/night cycle (if you use 2 Day abilities, no Night ability for the same day/night number). If an ability is aimed at you but redirected, it does not count. You are unable to gain any killing abilities.

Passive ability:

Mafia Communication: You may communicate with Zen, Edgar, and Vanderzant, Terra. Feel free to make a quick topic. Send all transcripts to me if you do not.

Family Ties: You may communicate with giraffelasergun, Relm. Relm is not a member of mafia. Feel free to make a quick topic.

Restrictions:
It takes exactly one less vote for you to be lynched. This will not be noted on the vote counts in any way, and if you get lynched it will be considered the Day is over and all other actions will not work at that point.

Win Condition:
You are mafia aligned and win when the mafia has an undeniable majority over everyone else or nothing can prevent this.
Overswarm said:


Edgar- Town Debilitator

Welcome to Final Fantasy VI Mafia, Zen. You are Edgar, the king of Figaro. You stumbled upon Strago’s plan, but you know a winning side when you see one. With your own magic failing and the Espers leaving this plane, you have no choice but to help Strago. If you refuse, he’ll single handedly destroy the kingdom you’ve worked so hard to build!

Active ability

Debilitator: You may PM me once per night to give a posting restriction to a player. A player may be given multiple posting restrictions. I reserve the right to force you to choose a different, less extreme, posting restriction if I deem it necessary. All restrictions must follow the rules.

Good posting restrictions:
Replace all o’s with 0’s
Always end your sentences with ellipses (…)
Never use punctuation

Bad posting restrictions:
Say “I’m Mafia” in every post
Make all your posts lyrics to Will Smith songs
All posts must be over 1000 characters

Mafia Communication: You may communicate with Sephiroths Masamune, Strago, and Vanderzant, Terra. Feel free to make a quick topic. Send all transcripts to me if you do not.

Win Condition:
You are mafia aligned and win when the mafia has an undeniable majority over everyone else or nothing can prevent this.
Overswarm said:


Terra- Mafia Double Voter

Welcome to Final Fantasy VI Mafia, Vanderzant. You are Terra, half woman, half esper. Or at least used to be. Since the defeat of Kefka, your Morph ability has grown weaker and weaker, and your magical abilities have weakened. For your help, Strago has promised to teach you Blue Magic and let you rule the world with him… you just have to make sure he’s on the winning side.

Active ability

Morph: publicly post the ability code listed below and your vote counts as two votes for that Day. You must wait one full day without using this ability before using it again [so if you use it day 1, you can use it again on day 3]). Your character's identity, but not allegiance, will be announced with the use of this ability.

Ability Code:




Terra used Morph!

Terra’s vote now counts as two votes. She may not split the vote up. This ability cannot be used the following Day.”

Mafia Communication: You may communicate with Zen, Edgar, and Sephiroths Masamune, Strago. Feel free to make a quick topic. Send all transcripts to me if you do not.

Win Condition:
You are mafia aligned and win when the mafia has an undeniable majority over everyone else or nothing can prevent this.

INDEPENDENTS

Overswarm said:


Shadow- Independent Assassin

Welcome to Final Fantasy VI Mafia, RocketPSIence. You are Shadow, and you’d slit your momma’s throat for a nickel. Your ninja abilities make you one of the most powerful players, but also a prime target. Keep your identity secret, and beware of your daughter. Working alone will be difficult, but if anyone can do it, it’s a ninja.

Active Ability:

Assassin : you may kill one player each Night by PMing their name to me with the command kill: playername. Please note that your character’s name will be attributed with the killing, so keep your identity secret!

Interceptor: Should you be attacked during the Night, Interceptor will take the hit and die. It will be publicly stated that Interceptor is now dead. (That means you’re one-time bulletproof)

Posting restrictions: Before you are able to use your ability, you must post "The reaper is always one step behind me..." or "I can't help you. You must look within for answers." exactly as written here at least once during the game.

Safe claim: Shadow, town vigilante.

Win Condition:
You are independently aligned and win when you are the last man standing or nothing can prevent this.
Overswarm said:


Disclaimer: Variants of this role has been used previously in FF6 Mafia (BBR) and more recently in Villains Mafia (DGames). I'd suggest checking Villains Mafia and noting any differences.

Kefka – Independent Vote Manipulator

Welcome to Final Fantasy VI Mafia, Meta-Kirby. You are Kefka, the genetically engineered demi-god. Due to early experiments with magical infusion, you’ve been driven insane and want only to destroy the planet. The heroes believe you to be dead, but you’ve managed to kill Gogo, the master mimic, and easily take his place in their party. They suspect nothing, so be careful to keep your identity safe. You have a rough road ahead of you, but with power like yours…. Who can stop you?

Active Abilities:

Slave Crown: This ability can only be used once per Day, and can only be used if the player you are using it on has voted for you this day. When someone votes for you, you can force the player to vote for someone of your choosing in their next post. They will be notified that “someone” has used the slave crown ability on them, and be given the restriction “You must vote for (player) in your next post, and cannot change your vote until the following day”. Keep in mind if they don't post, the ability doesn't affect them. This ability's affect doesn't carry over to the next day. Posting rules (one post every 72 hours) still applies, and they will be notified of this. Please note this is a time sensitive ability and will only take effect when I send the PM; if I am not around, it won’t be sent, and the Day could end before your ability goes off. Plan accordingly!

Light of Judgement: You may PM me the name of one player each night. You will be given information on this player's name and abilities, and you will be immune to this player's abilities the following day. They will not be notified.

Goner: This is a one-time use ability. You may PM me that you wish to use “Goner” at Night. The following Day, it will be announced that it takes exactly one vote to lynch anyone (this includes you) due to the use of the ability “Goner”. It will be announced that no vote will count until exactly 1 hour from when I start the day. Keep in mind this is an attack Kefka uses in FF6. You may not use any other abilities when using Goner.

Illusion: This is a one-time use ability. The Night you use this ability, anyone that attempts to kill you will be told their kill was successful, but you will not be killed. All other abilities will work as per normal. You may not use any other abilities when using Illusion.

Posting restriction
You have to type "hahahaha" (exactly as posted here; four "ha") or "lol" or any smashboards emoticon in every post you make in which you vote for someone.

Safe Claim: You are Gogo, the master mimic.
Alternate Safe Claim: You are Duncan, Sabin’s Martial Arts teacher.

Special Information
No one else knows that Gogo is dead and you have replaced him.

Strago, the Blue Mage, is a member of the mafia.

Gau, the wild child from the Veldt, can investigate you and discover who you really are.

Win Condition:
You are independently aligned and win when you are the last man standing or nothing can prevent this.
 

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Surprised Nabe was town. Figured it had to be a Nabe/Vanz scum team - I discarded a second indie as a possibility and so cleared rPSI - more the fool me.

Amazing set up, GG to Vanz.

Thoughts later.
 

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Also I actually hated my role, being masoned with a non-confirmed town is pain in the arse, and don't even get me started on post restrictions.. I HATE those things
 

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I didn't read any of the game play posts, but looked at the LyLo playerlist and was like "Vanz has to be scum." Lol guess what? Vanz was scum.
 

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Yeah, looking guilty to cops is a way better ability, X1.

Jesus, friggin' had to be always-Scum-Swiss who got miller, lmao.

Seph's ability was amazing - had he lived he could have wrecked this game.

Town played terribly in the last few days (wtf DH investigation), but had we played my way we'd have been stuck with Nabe/Vanz dead and no endgame - would I have guessed two indies? Idk. Probably not. Game would have come down to luck.

I misread Xatres 'till he claimed, had Nabe wrong at the end, got rPSI wrong thanks to two indies. Other than that I think I got everyone right. *Shrugs shoulders*

GG, very fun.
 

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Why would you ever allow a double-voter into 3 man LYLO?
We made a similar mistake in the BBR, except terra was unclaimed, and it was 7 man, and we didn't realize that dropping votes on the day before lylo would guarantee a loss.


We ended up lynching bardull because of pressure votes... Secret mafia double-voters are one of the most *******ish things ever created, hence why this setup is VERY anti-town.
 

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Also my apologies to OS: I can only hope that you know I didn't intentionally break the rules, it was an accident so sorry :/
 

Overswarm

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Also I actually hated my role, being masoned with a non-confirmed town is pain in the arse, and don't even get me started on post restrictions.. I HATE those things
Be glad Zen didn't use his ability more often then. :B



Balance thoughts:

I started with the indies.

Shadow is a straight-forward killer, but he can choose not to kill. He's also one-time bulletproof. This gives him a claim as a vigilante that can't be "disproven" except with Sabin's investigation, and Gau's investigations deliberately bring attention to him. Add in that Kappa's information mark Shadow as "not mafia" which implies indie, and you've got a killer with a perfect safe claim with pre-packaged reasonable doubts.

As such, the only way for Shadow to win is to avoid being under town's radar and playing their game. Are-Sigh did a good job with this, but didn't finish off Vanderzant. If Vand hadn't killed Are-Sigh, Are-Sigh would have won in end-game due to his one-shot bulletproof.

Shadow being an obvious killer and having shurikens at his victims puts him in a predicament. From day ONE he has to plan his kills, because otherwise he has to explain why he killed someone early game when he claims. On the plus side, he can say "i'll kill this guy' and it is mod confirmed. Win/lose for Shadow.

Kefka is an amazingly chaotic role, and is meant to be the most challenging in the game to play. Kefka CAN win, but he can't play a straight up game. He has to use deceit and take some risks. His ability "Goner" is a shakeup that prevents Kefka from ever being "trapped". He can dismantle any Day phase plan with that ability, and his slave crown can make town planning very difficult.

His "illusion" ability was meant to reward players with a good sense of what is giong on and to punish a town that publicly plans. The amount of WTF that would appear if it was mod confirmed that MKirby was killed and then MKirby wasn't would be enough to make town go unstable.

His "Light of Judgement" ability makes him one of the best scum hunters in the game while his slave crown makes him one of the most anti-town. Whichever way Kefka chooses to play (pro town or pro scum) makes one ability stronger or weaker for him.



Town-

Town was created under the philosophy of "too much information is bad information". It's proven to be the case twice now.

Mog and Umaro are meant to draw attention to themselves right away; they are both anti-town roles. Mog's vote blocking CAN be used well, but it is a public-use ability and as such is pretty much a giant spotlight. Scum wants to kill him before late, Town fears him. To top it all off, Mog is forced to get MOD votes by missing his Kupo!'s (everyone will miss one or two), which makes him a lynch even if considered town later.

Umaro is a giant distractor. In addition, he's likely to vote for Kefka, who can slave crown him and plague him with MOD votes with a catch 22: He has to change his vote, but can't vote for the same person twice in a row, but has to vote for the same person. MOD vote if he posts, pretty much.

Locke and Celes are another pair. Locke is a masoned Doctor, always strong, but has voting restrictions. He has to protect Celes, making Celes' play a potential detriment to Locke.

Celes however, is an uber role: mass roleblocker. It doesn't stop Night Kills, but it prevents anything else! This, at its core, is an anti-town move... but late game is invaluable, or would be if Celes survives that long.


Sabin is one of the most useful roles and for some reason survived until end game BOTH times this game has been played. His one-shot investigation ends any indie thoughts, and his selective masonry can either be awesome (getting a cop, for instance) or horrible (getting scum). Sabin has the ability to scan then mason, or mason then scan, over the course of two days if he wants a "for sure" thing.

Cyan is another tricky role. You kill him, he kills you. This is the anti-double voter ability. Any surprise hammers on Cyan results in them dying. Unfortunately, Cyan can't have killed an innocent the day before for his abilities to work.

Cyan's roleblocking ability is also particularly useful in a game full of abilities.

Setzer is by far my favorite Town role. His gambling ability is one I've thought of basing entire games around. There's just dozens of outcomes that can come about from it.

Gau, the town cop, can't discover indies and can't vote if he's using his ability. THAT is the anti-cop. The cop can't vote and can't find indies.

Kappa is another anti-town townie. While his information is invaluable, all of it can be summed up as "things scum would know" except for Cyan's bomb-esque ability. Add in that he's a Miller, and you've got another distractor.

Siegfried is an addition to this game. While Scum won the last game (via a doublevoter blitz, like this one), most people said "town was stacked". I knew this was only the case in hindsight, as proven by this game, and wanted to make town a bit stronger. Keeping with the theme, Siegfried would be discovered as an independent if scanned... a 1/15 chance. The real danger is him CLAIMING that, a bit of mod trickery on my part. :B

The tracking ability is a godsend to town though. It's one of the few legitimate, complete bits of information town can get.

Relm is one of the more powerful roles in teh game, but is blissfully unaware of what she's doing the entire time. If she targets Shadow, Shadow targets himself with his killing ability. If she targets Locke, the doctor, the doctor protects himself AND whoever he chose to protect. If she targets Edgar, edgar gets the same posting restriction he thought up. Relm jsut has to figure that out during the day if her ability succeeds, allowing whoever is in the Relm slot to piece things together.

MAFIA

The only mafia role that I started with when I made this game was Edgar.

Edgar's debilitator ability is meant to mess with town. He can make people say "lol" to make town think that player is kefka, he can make people say "Kupo!" to think Mog is a cultist (i had considered that as a reality early in the game's design), he can make peopel say ridiculous things that are more likely ti give them mod votes.... but Edgar has no safe claim ability. He can think of his own (the one I thought of was to give someone a posting restriction and determine their alignment, which has flaws), but ultimately he's dead in the water come mass claim + scrutiny.

Terra's double voter ability is incredibly strong in LYLO, but insanely weak any other time. This whole lylo situation could easily have been solved to be against Vanderzant by simply saying "Vand, use your ability" on the Day before, since he can't use it twice in a row. Lots of issues with this, so you have to keep it secret (hard in this game) or town has to totally trust you / screw up. Again, having no reliable way to hide this ability weakens mafia, especially given the large amount of players in the game.

Strago is the glue that makes Mafia strong. I thoguht mafia was totally dead when Strago died D1. Strago's ability to absorb other's abilities means that mafia can throw out two post restrictions per Night after the first Night. That gets insane. In addition to this, he's masoned with Relm and can control her ability; he can have Relm give the ability to him and get a posting restriction, and then use sketch (kills shadow) and give out posting restrictions every Night. That's just from what he's given control over in the start. Getting Mog's voteblocker ability, Kefka's Slave Crown, Doc protection... Strago makes mafia strong. Strago beind Hated is tough for him, but his masonry with Relm causing EVERY masonry to be in question on his flip is pretty good too. Even in death, Strago is pretty baller.


How town managed to let Vanderzant live, I don't know. How town didn't scan Are-Sigh when they had the opportunity, I don't know.


But GJ to scum. Comments on players later.
 

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We made a similar mistake in the BBR, except terra was unclaimed, and it was 7 man, and we didn't realize that dropping votes on the day before lylo would guarantee a loss.


We ended up lynching bardull because of pressure votes... Secret mafia double-voters are one of the most *******ish things ever created, hence why this setup is VERY anti-town.
I think the setup isn't "pro" or "anti" anyone. Town can be seen as at a disadvantage if you consider all anti-town one chunk, but knowing that two of the mafia members don't have ability claims and the other is hated and Town knows what Shadow does and can control him all game, I don't think mafia or indies have such an easy time either.
 

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Also my apologies to OS: I can only hope that you know I didn't intentionally break the rules, it was an accident so sorry :/
S'ok. I had to punish town though.

Saying "so and so said X" is different than giving a recording of it.
 

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That's some pretty cool stuff. If Seph lived, we would have done some things.

Some things. Some things.

M-K you should have joined the dark side.
 

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Well done, Vand. Sorry about your luck, rPSI.

DH. What the hell?
Dark Horse roleblocked nabe the last two Nights. :B
Why did you say you blocked Vand? The entire decision to rest the game on me v. GLG was because Vand was "blocked" and couldn't have made a kill. It would've been Vand/me instead of GLG/me and we'd have won.
 
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