FF6 Mafia - GAME OVER! Mafia wins!

[Gova]

Nabe, indy's would come back guilty as it tells me whether or not they are town aligned.

There wasn't anything noteable in my opinion other than the fact that they had planned to lie about Incom's oneshot and fake an innocent result on J.

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

Okay, thanks.

I really have to ask that you be specific though. Your result was specifically "innocent"? Your result wasn't "not mafia"?

 

[Gova]

No my result said dark horse is town aligned

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

Okay.

Before I comment on that, I just have to ask: do you realize why I'm asking you this?

 

[Gova]

Making sure I understand what my power does?

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

No. Do you realize that as a cop, Cello got results of "mafia" and "not mafia" on players?

 

[Gova]

Yeah I saw that but my one shot cop tells me if a player is town aligned or not.

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

So answer me again: the results you get are "town" or "guilty"?

 

[Gova]

i get player x is either town aligned or not town aligned

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

Okay. The wording is important.

"Town" or "not town" was what you needed to say; "innocent" or "guilty" would have been incongruous with what Cello's results were, and didn't really take account of indies properly. Town/not town results are stronger than mafia/not mafia, and make sense for a one-shot. This also connects with what BSL said about how he would show up as town to investigations, and since he flipped town we know that to be true.

I believe you to be town.

 

[rPSIvysaur]

Based on Cello's ability, I believe Gova's claim. It would make sense for that (luckily we already killed Kefka).

 

[vanderzant]

I'm really sorry I've been pounded in the rear by work.

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

Now, following from 1760.

rPSI and DH: you are the ones who need to be on the ball for the rest of the game.

What I'd like is for you two and the rest of town to be able to trust me moving forward. But I understand that can't necessarily happen. The problem with the situation we're entering is that if Vand is scum, he is also a double voter and needs to not be here toMorrow. But we've come into this situation now where one of me or GLG is scum.

I know GLG to be scum. I know that if we lynch GLG, that will leave rPSI safe to shoot Vand toNight. If Vand is town, town is still left with a safe 3-man LyLo, and with one of our two clears (rPSI/DH) still alive. We'll win. And if Vand is scum, we'll win toNight.

Consider this as well: If I'm scum, Vand is likely not. So if GLG flips town, you can shoot me and still be safe going into LyLo.

Vote: GLG. Please.

 

[rPSIvysaur]

I'm good with that Nabe. Can someone refute?

 

[Gova]

DH should roleblock too I think?

Nabe/Vand/GLG

lynch one, vig one, roleblock one?

 

[#HBC | Dark Horse]

Sorry, I need help with the plan

We lynch GLG

r, you should vig vanz. if he is scum, then he could hammer one of us in lylo. my RB desn't carry over to days, I think.

I would RB nabe in that situation (if vanz isn't last scum), to prevent him from selecting himself as unlynchable (your one-shot unlynchable is a night action, right?)

If scum flip, then vig vanz, and I rb ??? (nabe?)

Any suggestions?

 

[giraffelasergun]

a) a case on why I am scum, OR a case on why I am town and Gova is scum.
b) your result on BSL.

I just told you why you were scum. You're scum because you are the only person that could have commited the nkill except gova/dh and I think they're town so process of elimination leaves you.

Besides, you were the 3rd question mark yesterday that we haven't hit yet.

Vote: Nabe.

All I got is that my action suceeded, I didn't get any additional info.

 

[#HBC | Dark Horse]

*throws old plan away*

Okay, new plan.

We lynch GLG.

R shots vand.

I RB nabe.

All of these slots are interchangeable EXCEPT FOR ME RBING VANZ. HE MUST DIE BEFORE 3-WAY LYLO.

as for why...

R shoots van, so he can't use his ability toMorrow

I RB nabe, to prevent him from (possibly) committing the kill, as well as stop his one-shot unlychable thingy.

that leaves GLG to lynch.

Agreements/Disagreements?

 

[giraffelasergun]

When I flip town, don't leave obv scum nabe alive dh.

 

[giraffelasergun]

Also DH, why do you want to lynch me?

 

[#HBC | Dark Horse]

Nabe could have his lynch Thimbu on him, and you could sketch R' vig shot, so it's best to kill you now.

If you flip town, then well be dead.

 

[#HBC | Dark Horse]

EBWOP: "thingy", not "thumb"

 

[giraffelasergun]

You're lynching me because of my ability and not because of my alignment?

 

[vanderzant]

Ok, finished my 9.5 hour shift >.>

So I agree that mafia has to be between Nabe and GLG. Ofc, they could both be scum but it's still possible that scum lurks elsewhere, or that there is something weird.

I can see why I need to be vigged toNight, assuming we DON'T hit mafia (if we do my ability is no longer a liability for town tomorrow, but alas I can see where we're coming from)

I'm not totally fussed over who we kill, but I'm going to play the devils advocate and remind us that GLG was a MASON with Sephiroth.

That is an ultra powerful safe claim if it's fake, and I'm not sure mafia would be given something like that. I have a hard time seeing GLG as mafia considering (I went into this yesterDay if I remember right).

I do agree that his sketching ability makes a bit more sense for mafia then Nabe's flush lynch (discussed yesterDay).

Lastly, DH what is Nabe's unlynchable ability? I don't remember him claiming such a thing :?

 

[vanderzant]

Oh wait a minute

rPSI if we somehow hit town toDay you need to shoot the other one of Nabe/GLG. Cos we know one of them submitted the kill *facepalm*

 

[#HBC | Dark Horse]

Wait...the Flush 7...

ARG! I'M SUCH AN IDIOT!

GLG, you aren't 100%clear, and due to the nature of your ability, you're getting lynched.

 

[giraffelasergun]

Or we could lynch nabe and win now.

 

[#HBC | Dark Horse]

as for the third eincarnation of the plan (because I want to do something).

We lynch nabe.

R shoots vanz.

I RB GLG.

Anyone against this?

 

[rPSIvysaur]

I'd rather get GLG lynched first, but that's just me. I don't disagree with the new plan though.

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

I just told you why you were scum. You're scum because you are the only person that could have commited the nkill except gova/dh and I think they're town so process of elimination leaves you.

I just told you why you're scum, dear. Except I made it provable. It's you or me. Or Gova, which is another aspect you didn't seem to grasp, but he's so town it hurts and so was InCom.

All I got is that my action suceeded, I didn't get any additional info.

You sketched a tracker, and didn't get a result on him?


Town, take into account the flips we already have on Strago and Edgar. GLG and Gova are Relm and Sabin; Strago's daughter and Edgar's brother.

Town needs to lynch GLG. If he flips scum, shoot Vand. If he flips town, shoot me. This is no-risk at this point, one of me or him is scum.

 

[rPSIvysaur]

Vote: GLG
Let's rock and roll.

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

Thanks, rPSI.

Gova, your thoughts on Me/You/GLG?

 

[giraffelasergun]

You sketched a tracker, and didn't get a result on him?

Yessir.

Do you not believe me?

 

[#HBC | Dark Horse]

let's go back to plan 2...

But first, @mod request votecount

 

[Overswarm]

GLG- Nabe, Are-Sigh
Nabe- GLG

With 6 alive, it takes 4 to lynch!
A deadline has been set for Dec. 23rd at 3:00 p.m. EST

 

[#HBC | Dark Horse]

VOTE: GLG

can't go against my plan

 

[vanderzant]

Yeah ok then, let's do this.

Vote: Glg

die scum die

 

[rPSIvysaur]

plz be scum plz be scum plz be scum

 

[vanderzant]

Also @Dark Horse.

If glg somehow flips town then you need to roleblock me obviously. Since either Nabe/Glg is scum, you roleblocking me while rPSI kills the other (again, if it's a town flip) will make sure that tomorrow there are still 4 players alive.

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

oh hi hammer

I was just reading D1. D1 tells tales.

Eh I'd rather get at this Monday when I'm on a CPU. There's a lot I want to quote, but I've done a lot already today and I have work to do. But don't worry I'll probably end up contributing more than a lot of you because my role sucks.

But yeah DH is town. X1 isn't necessarily scum for not picking up on it, but him thinking DH is scum is pretty wack unless he has an ability that leads him to that conclusion. I feel confident in my DH meta now that I have actually seen his scum play.

Zen taking a nice easy defense on DH.

Feeling good on Gova. Please be scum, GLG.