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FF6 Mafia - GAME OVER! Mafia wins!
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Ahem...
Bullcrap. X1 explicitly stated that he wouldn't be able to post for the rest of the day without garnering modvotes. I don't believe for a second that he's going to go from being 100% sure you are mafia, even instigating Cello to ask him to post logs, and then backtrack.J said:
No should believe J for a second. Let's stick with the plan we have in place. Lynch J and X1. Cello investigate whoever. Vig kill whoever Cello says based on flips.
The fact is, this X1/J situation is sowing a lot of confusion in the town, which is a great situation for scum. Look how many times the plan has changed toDay. We need to just kill the lot of them and move on. We're almost guaranteed one of them is scum.
Lol, people keep doing this. When someone is online and hasn't posted, they may be WRITING a post. 
Wow wasn't expecting that from ya Xatres 
Xatres we talked over aim about how we are gonna take a break from each other to actually stop this dag on confusion. It's actually not that unbelievable. However mind you. I never said we both thought the other was not mafia. It's just...hmm...hard to explain. Also if Cello/Vandy/Swiss all have a town read on X1 why the heck are we gonna lynch him? Take up your X1 lynch with Swissy. Also you really haven't stated a point in either me or X1 being scum. Actually have you even taken a stand to say anyone is scum? I haven't really seen much from you and want to here more.
Give thoughts on which of Me/X1 are scum.
Give thoughts on Nabe/Zen/MK. If one of them is scum which one of them is it?
Who should be Vigged?
Who should be Copped?
What's your opinion on GLG?
Kupo!
Xatres we talked over aim about how we are gonna take a break from each other to actually stop this dag on confusion. It's actually not that unbelievable. However mind you. I never said we both thought the other was not mafia. It's just...hmm...hard to explain. Also if Cello/Vandy/Swiss all have a town read on X1 why the heck are we gonna lynch him? Take up your X1 lynch with Swissy. Also you really haven't stated a point in either me or X1 being scum. Actually have you even taken a stand to say anyone is scum? I haven't really seen much from you and want to here more.
Give thoughts on which of Me/X1 are scum.
Give thoughts on Nabe/Zen/MK. If one of them is scum which one of them is it?
Who should be Vigged?
Who should be Copped?
What's your opinion on GLG?
Kupo!
#HBC | Nabe
Beneath it all, he had H-cups all along
You needed to go and it was an opportunity to do so. It also turns the action we waste getting rid of you into a good thing because Cello gets protection, freeing up Locke as well so they can target another player.
I will take X1/J, I will take X1/DH/J, and I will take MK/DH/J. Let's choose something, and stick to it, which was the entire point of this whole thing. Xatres has it entirely right; between lynches and PR actions, there are a lot of variables to decide on and this flipping around is not what we need.
I honestly don't know which of you or X1 are scum. There's evidence that goes in either direction for both of you. However, I know that ONE of you is scum, but otherwise X1 wouldn't have said that you practically admitted it in his QT.
You can say that you guys talked over AIM and came to an agreement all you want, but I think you can admit that we really have no reason to trust what you're saying is true. There's a significant conflict of interest.
On Nabe, I was getting a guttish scum read D1, and I thought the timing of the flush 7 move was a bit unusual. However, it has turned out to be somewhat useful, because now I'm pretty sure that between you and X1 we'll be hitting scum today. So I'll have to say it's a null read overall.
On MK, I've been getting scum reads on him since D1, and I'm pretty sure I agree with Cello that he's at the very least some kind of anti-town roll. I think he should be vigged.
On Zen & GLG, I honestly don't have a good read on them. I'd have to do a reread.
As for who should be copped, I'm not going to say. I think Cello should decide that himself and not say who it's going to be. If he does, or even if he gives a list, he'll have given scum a chance to just kill whoever he plans to investigate. Less confirmed town in the game is better for scum. I'd like to avoid the WIFOM as much as possible.
You can say that you guys talked over AIM and came to an agreement all you want, but I think you can admit that we really have no reason to trust what you're saying is true. There's a significant conflict of interest.
On Nabe, I was getting a guttish scum read D1, and I thought the timing of the flush 7 move was a bit unusual. However, it has turned out to be somewhat useful, because now I'm pretty sure that between you and X1 we'll be hitting scum today. So I'll have to say it's a null read overall.
On MK, I've been getting scum reads on him since D1, and I'm pretty sure I agree with Cello that he's at the very least some kind of anti-town roll. I think he should be vigged.
On Zen & GLG, I honestly don't have a good read on them. I'd have to do a reread.
As for who should be copped, I'm not going to say. I think Cello should decide that himself and not say who it's going to be. If he does, or even if he gives a list, he'll have given scum a chance to just kill whoever he plans to investigate. Less confirmed town in the game is better for scum. I'd like to avoid the WIFOM as much as possible.
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I don't have a town read on X1. I have no idea where that came from.
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I think I just figured out who scum's alignment concealer is: me.
I'll explain in full detail in a bit, I'm making dinner first.
I'll explain in full detail in a bit, I'm making dinner first.
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Votecount:
J (3) - MOD, MOD, MOD,
Meta-Kirby (1) - Zen,
Darkhorse (3) - Vanderzant, Dark Horse, J
X1-12 (6) - MOD, Xatres, RocketPSIence, X1-12, Meta-Kirby,Nabe,
Not Voting - Cello_Marl, BSL, giraffeslasergun, Swiss, InferiorityComplex,
With 14 alive, it takes 8 to lynch.
A deadline has been set for Thursday, December 2nd, at 3:00 p.m. EST.
7-Flush Vote Count:
J (5) - Nabe, Swiss, Xatres, X1-12, Dark Horse,
Cello (3) - J, Inferiority Complex, Vanderzant,
7-Flush vote ends the same point the day ends.
X1-12 has broken a posting restriction and has been given a punishment.
J (3) - MOD, MOD, MOD,
Meta-Kirby (1) - Zen,
Darkhorse (3) - Vanderzant, Dark Horse, J
X1-12 (6) - MOD, Xatres, RocketPSIence, X1-12, Meta-Kirby,Nabe,
Not Voting - Cello_Marl, BSL, giraffeslasergun, Swiss, InferiorityComplex,
With 14 alive, it takes 8 to lynch.
A deadline has been set for Thursday, December 2nd, at 3:00 p.m. EST.
7-Flush Vote Count:
J (5) - Nabe, Swiss, Xatres, X1-12, Dark Horse,
Cello (3) - J, Inferiority Complex, Vanderzant,
7-Flush vote ends the same point the day ends.
X1-12 has broken a posting restriction and has been given a punishment.
That would be J trying to save his own butt, methinks.Cello_Marl said:
Insane cop, you think?Cello_Marl said:
M.K
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J wasn't trying to save his own butt. He's pointing out an illogical statement in his opponent's argument. He's saying "SInce you say Cello (A), then why don't we (B) instead?", to which Cello responded "I don't (A)".
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Xatres, are you Locke?
@Cello: No one should be saying whether they are Locke or not. The more targets scum has for tonight the better.
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Gau (Cello_Marl): What words does one think of when you think of Gau? Wild, savage, yes, but also, ignorant, innocent, and naive. He has no conception of the outside world. With his Leap ability, he learns the ways of monsters. He does not think of them of enemies at that time, but rather as friends. Creatures that he learns the ways of, that he becomes one with. He would never think of them as "scum". I must be a Naive Cop. That would also render "follow the cop" useless without any scum roleblockers or alignment concealers.
Gogo (Meta-Kirby): Gogo is a Flavor Cop who gains immunity to a single player's actions. The immunity seems powerful, but is it really? It's more like a weaker version of roleblocking. If he were scum, what use is that power in a group? Very little. His Flavor investigation allows us to determine if a person chooses to lie about their powers and that's it. That seems balanced enough. The only point of note is that the two pieces of information available to him were provable at the time he brought them up. Or were they? No one other than myself ever asserted that MK could be mafia, so they must think that MK is indy, right? BUT, if that were so, why would he bother to bring so much attention to himself by confirming that SephMasa (Strago) was scum? If he were wrong, he'd be lynched immediately. That is a HUGE gambit, and something that I don't believe an indy MK would be willing to try. The other information, "Gau is in the game", is fairly useless, but it makes sense in context. His mimicking ability is similar to my own supposed investigation ability. Final opinion: town.
Sabin (InferiorityComplex): Sabin is a one-shot recruiter that also has a single investigation abilty called "Helping Hand" and "Scan" respectively. I was leery of the fact that he had an investigation ability as well, but the totality of his other actions let me know he was town through and through. Thinking about that...a single REAL investigation, and MK's flavor investigation is all that town really has. In a 16 person game, that seems reasonable enough.
Relm (giraffelasergun): GLG breadcrumbed Relm by saying something was "sketchy". I'm assuming for now that Relm's only power was her "masonry" with Strago. If I'm wrong on that, GLG should let us know. At any rate, GLG is so obvtown I won't bother with any commentary.
Cyan (Dark Horse): Roleblocking Bomb. His powers are provable, the especially important one being the roleblocking one. From this, we can assume that Cyan's powers as presented are true. Let's say for a moment that I were a normal cop. No character makes any sense whatsoever as an alignment concealer (except maybe Gogo). Cyan is the only character that has a power that could stop my investigation, BUT it would only be usable when scum dies. Is that reasonable as a scum power? No. DH must be town. ToNight, we can settle this once and for all.
Strago (Sephiroths Masamune): We can actually infer some very useful information from Strago. Whose powers are so strong that it would be broken if scum could target themselves to gain a massive advantage? Voteblocking for one. J/SephMasa would be so stupidly ****ing broken that it can be immediately disregarded. Nabe can essentially force a townie lynch if he were willing to die along with the other lynchee by letting himself get to L-1, activating his Lucky flush and self hammering along with voting for the townie. Doing this twice would destroy a town that was in the Day before LyLo.
Setzer and Mog (Nabe and J): Their powers are too strong when controlled by scum to be scum. They must be town. One could say that J's power dissipating when X1 dies is the balancing factor to this, but why then would SephMasa have said this?
Siegfried (BSL): Tracking is a provable power, so it is true. What use would tracking have for scum in this game? Gau: Their buddy is already investigated. If I weren't naive, they would be screwed anyway. Celes/Setzer/Mog/Umaro/Shadow: Effect known to all. Cyan: Knowing who he roleblocked? How is that useful? Locke: Only useful if he successfully protected against their NK. Useless scum ability means it is a town ability.
Shadow (Are-Sigh): Shadow is a vigilante. Shadow could conceivably be a serial killer, but as is the case with all vigilantes, having them commit suicide will deal with that issue once and for all. This will be unnecessary if my theory about Terra is correct.
Celes (Tandora): Dead town.
Kappa (Swiss): He hasn't claimed his powers, but I'm willing to bet he is the only vanilla townie in the game. I'm assuming that he's not a transformed character. A town full of PRs and a goon? Unlikely.
The only players left over are Zen, Vanderzant, and Xatres, and the only characters left over are Edgar (or maybe Gerad), Terra and Locke.
Vanderzant (Locke): An assumption on my part. I'm willing to bet this is the case based on what I'm about to say. Sorry, vand.
Xatres (Terra): We know that X1 is under the influence of a Slave Crown, which was what Emperor Gestahl used to control Terra. Terra is, in fact, the only character that ever had ANYTHING to do with those things in the World of Ruin. Now, the only reason Terra would consider using them is if she had snapped, i.e. was not town. Using my previous thought of Strago copy powers and scum, we can also infer that Terra is not scum, since they can presumably force everyone into difficult self-MOD vote inducing situations. Terra is probably our independent Pied Piper-like that is trying to enslave everyone. What do independents do to win? They must play the forces of Town and Scum off against each other so they are the last one standing. With the death of SephMasa/Strago, independent Terra/Xatres would have gone after who he thought was town, i.e. X1.
Zen (Edgar or Gerad): Character and alignment (scum) arrived at by process of elimination. I have no idea what his ability is, so I cannot comment on if it is too strong, and will be disregarding the "it is too strong, Strago could copy it" argument since he can lie to us.
Gogo (Meta-Kirby): Gogo is a Flavor Cop who gains immunity to a single player's actions. The immunity seems powerful, but is it really? It's more like a weaker version of roleblocking. If he were scum, what use is that power in a group? Very little. His Flavor investigation allows us to determine if a person chooses to lie about their powers and that's it. That seems balanced enough. The only point of note is that the two pieces of information available to him were provable at the time he brought them up. Or were they? No one other than myself ever asserted that MK could be mafia, so they must think that MK is indy, right? BUT, if that were so, why would he bother to bring so much attention to himself by confirming that SephMasa (Strago) was scum? If he were wrong, he'd be lynched immediately. That is a HUGE gambit, and something that I don't believe an indy MK would be willing to try. The other information, "Gau is in the game", is fairly useless, but it makes sense in context. His mimicking ability is similar to my own supposed investigation ability. Final opinion: town.
Sabin (InferiorityComplex): Sabin is a one-shot recruiter that also has a single investigation abilty called "Helping Hand" and "Scan" respectively. I was leery of the fact that he had an investigation ability as well, but the totality of his other actions let me know he was town through and through. Thinking about that...a single REAL investigation, and MK's flavor investigation is all that town really has. In a 16 person game, that seems reasonable enough.
Relm (giraffelasergun): GLG breadcrumbed Relm by saying something was "sketchy". I'm assuming for now that Relm's only power was her "masonry" with Strago. If I'm wrong on that, GLG should let us know. At any rate, GLG is so obvtown I won't bother with any commentary.
Cyan (Dark Horse): Roleblocking Bomb. His powers are provable, the especially important one being the roleblocking one. From this, we can assume that Cyan's powers as presented are true. Let's say for a moment that I were a normal cop. No character makes any sense whatsoever as an alignment concealer (except maybe Gogo). Cyan is the only character that has a power that could stop my investigation, BUT it would only be usable when scum dies. Is that reasonable as a scum power? No. DH must be town. ToNight, we can settle this once and for all.
Strago (Sephiroths Masamune): We can actually infer some very useful information from Strago. Whose powers are so strong that it would be broken if scum could target themselves to gain a massive advantage? Voteblocking for one. J/SephMasa would be so stupidly ****ing broken that it can be immediately disregarded. Nabe can essentially force a townie lynch if he were willing to die along with the other lynchee by letting himself get to L-1, activating his Lucky flush and self hammering along with voting for the townie. Doing this twice would destroy a town that was in the Day before LyLo.
Setzer and Mog (Nabe and J): Their powers are too strong when controlled by scum to be scum. They must be town. One could say that J's power dissipating when X1 dies is the balancing factor to this, but why then would SephMasa have said this?
Destroy their own powers on D1? I don't think so.
Siegfried (BSL): Tracking is a provable power, so it is true. What use would tracking have for scum in this game? Gau: Their buddy is already investigated. If I weren't naive, they would be screwed anyway. Celes/Setzer/Mog/Umaro/Shadow: Effect known to all. Cyan: Knowing who he roleblocked? How is that useful? Locke: Only useful if he successfully protected against their NK. Useless scum ability means it is a town ability.
Shadow (Are-Sigh): Shadow is a vigilante. Shadow could conceivably be a serial killer, but as is the case with all vigilantes, having them commit suicide will deal with that issue once and for all. This will be unnecessary if my theory about Terra is correct.
Celes (Tandora): Dead town.
Kappa (Swiss): He hasn't claimed his powers, but I'm willing to bet he is the only vanilla townie in the game. I'm assuming that he's not a transformed character. A town full of PRs and a goon? Unlikely.
The only players left over are Zen, Vanderzant, and Xatres, and the only characters left over are Edgar (or maybe Gerad), Terra and Locke.
Vanderzant (Locke): An assumption on my part. I'm willing to bet this is the case based on what I'm about to say. Sorry, vand.
Xatres (Terra): We know that X1 is under the influence of a Slave Crown, which was what Emperor Gestahl used to control Terra. Terra is, in fact, the only character that ever had ANYTHING to do with those things in the World of Ruin. Now, the only reason Terra would consider using them is if she had snapped, i.e. was not town. Using my previous thought of Strago copy powers and scum, we can also infer that Terra is not scum, since they can presumably force everyone into difficult self-MOD vote inducing situations. Terra is probably our independent Pied Piper-like that is trying to enslave everyone. What do independents do to win? They must play the forces of Town and Scum off against each other so they are the last one standing. With the death of SephMasa/Strago, independent Terra/Xatres would have gone after who he thought was town, i.e. X1.
Zen (Edgar or Gerad): Character and alignment (scum) arrived at by process of elimination. I have no idea what his ability is, so I cannot comment on if it is too strong, and will be disregarding the "it is too strong, Strago could copy it" argument since he can lie to us.
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Final Plan:
Lynch X1 ASAP. J's death is frankly inconsequential.
RPSI kills Zen.
MK investigates Xatres.
BSL tracks Xatres.
DH should not be able to act.
Vand protects RPSI.
InCom investigates Swiss.
I will investigate Swiss.
Lynch X1 ASAP. J's death is frankly inconsequential.
RPSI kills Zen.
MK investigates Xatres.
BSL tracks Xatres.
DH should not be able to act.
Vand protects RPSI.
InCom investigates Swiss.
I will investigate Swiss.
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If Swiss or Dark Horse is the hammer, I'd like it if you were willing to save J. Like I said, it doesn't really matter, but it would be nice.
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Is this scum's reaction to "it doesn't matter if you die"? No. C'mon people.
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Why am I killing Zen?
#HBC | Nabe
Beneath it all, he had H-cups all along
All sounds good to me.
Sorry, J. I actually wasn't writing a post that time.
@Cello: I'll save my comments on your theories until toMorrow, since it doesn't affect the plans for toDay too much. I'll be more inclined to trust the majority of your opinions after I've seen the flips.
@J: Sorry, dude, no plans to save you. Your mod votes are going to make you a liability, and I'd rather see you go sooner than later. Plus your whole thing with X1 is crazy.
Okay folks, I'm off to bed.
@Cello: I'll save my comments on your theories until toMorrow, since it doesn't affect the plans for toDay too much. I'll be more inclined to trust the majority of your opinions after I've seen the flips.
@J: Sorry, dude, no plans to save you. Your mod votes are going to make you a liability, and I'd rather see you go sooner than later. Plus your whole thing with X1 is crazy.
Okay folks, I'm off to bed.
Gah, J, seriously?
Yes, I'm fine with you putting X1 as L-1.
To bed, for realz.
Yes, I'm fine with you putting X1 as L-1.
To bed, for realz.
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7 Flush Vote: Cello
I hope Cello and J can both live. ;-;
I hope Cello and J can both live. ;-;
O_________O
Nonononononono! You just messed up the votes where the is no possible way to save both of us now! Unless someone else flush votes then one of us must die.
Ah well guess I am gonna die now.
Kupo!
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Skimmed. Going to an interview. Back in an hour or so.
No-one end the day.
Cello you know I am not VT, correct? You can verify naivety or lack of naivety and nothing more.
X1 is confirmed town through my role PM, not just my read. His death is not necessary.
No-one end the day.
Cello you know I am not VT, correct? You can verify naivety or lack of naivety and nothing more.
X1 is confirmed town through my role PM, not just my read. His death is not necessary.
Swiss
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What are the flush votes at?
I want Xatres vigged rather than Zen - but that's personal preference, they're both likely anti-town (also wrt Xatres, told you so ^_^). Vanz would prefer Zen unless Xatres recent posts out him to Vanz as well.
I can full claim if it makes things easier. But it'll make your life hard, Cello. I'll need to die before MyLo if you cannot trust me as town.
I want Xatres vigged rather than Zen - but that's personal preference, they're both likely anti-town (also wrt Xatres, told you so ^_^). Vanz would prefer Zen unless Xatres recent posts out him to Vanz as well.
I can full claim if it makes things easier. But it'll make your life hard, Cello. I'll need to die before MyLo if you cannot trust me as town.
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Votecount:
J (3) - MOD, MOD, MOD,
Meta-Kirby (1) - Zen,
Darkhorse (2) - Vanderzant, Dark Horse,
X1-12 (7) - MOD, Xatres, RocketPSIence, X1-12, Meta-Kirby,Nabe, J
Not Voting - Cello_Marl, BSL, giraffeslasergun, Swiss, InferiorityComplex,
With 14 alive, it takes 8 to lynch.
A deadline has been set for Thursday, December 2nd, at 3:00 p.m. EST.
7-Flush Vote Count:
J (5) - Nabe, Swiss, Xatres, X1-12, Dark Horse,
Cello (4) - J, Inferiority Complex, Vanderzant, RocketPSIence
7-Flush vote ends the same point the day ends.
X1-12 has broken a posting restriction and has been given a punishment.
J (3) - MOD, MOD, MOD,
Meta-Kirby (1) - Zen,
Darkhorse (2) - Vanderzant, Dark Horse,
X1-12 (7) - MOD, Xatres, RocketPSIence, X1-12, Meta-Kirby,Nabe, J
Not Voting - Cello_Marl, BSL, giraffeslasergun, Swiss, InferiorityComplex,
With 14 alive, it takes 8 to lynch.
A deadline has been set for Thursday, December 2nd, at 3:00 p.m. EST.
7-Flush Vote Count:
J (5) - Nabe, Swiss, Xatres, X1-12, Dark Horse,
Cello (4) - J, Inferiority Complex, Vanderzant, RocketPSIence
7-Flush vote ends the same point the day ends.
X1-12 has broken a posting restriction and has been given a punishment.
Just a thought I had while rereading on Zen and Vand (completely unrelated to either of them).
@Cello: Your reasoning for SephMasa not having J/Nabe for scumbuds was that it'd be too powerful to copy their powers. I'm not sure how familiar you are with Final Fantasy (I assume a lot), so don't you realize that a blue mage has to have a power used ON him in order to copy it? So if Seph got tracked, then he could track. Or if he got investigated, then he could investigage. That's not terribly unbalanced at all. In order to gain voteblocker or Flush 7 powers, he'd have to have those powers used on him first. Not saying that means J/Nabe must be scum, but I think it should open the possibility.
Also, even if you think that is still too powerful, a town-Gogo could totally counterbalance that. We've got a vig and a doc, remember? All MK would have to do is copy the vig's power and suddenly we'd have two town-controlled NKs the following night. Or copy the doc's power, and we'd have two protections. Or at the very least an extra night's protection if the doc claimed. If Gogo is town, then we've got a VERY powerful set of combinations. (Which is part of the reason I still don't entirely trust MK).
I'm not sure how you'll interpret all of that, but it's food for thought that maybe your choice of alignments may be off-base. (As well as your assignment of certain roles)
@Cello: Your reasoning for SephMasa not having J/Nabe for scumbuds was that it'd be too powerful to copy their powers. I'm not sure how familiar you are with Final Fantasy (I assume a lot), so don't you realize that a blue mage has to have a power used ON him in order to copy it? So if Seph got tracked, then he could track. Or if he got investigated, then he could investigage. That's not terribly unbalanced at all. In order to gain voteblocker or Flush 7 powers, he'd have to have those powers used on him first. Not saying that means J/Nabe must be scum, but I think it should open the possibility.
Also, even if you think that is still too powerful, a town-Gogo could totally counterbalance that. We've got a vig and a doc, remember? All MK would have to do is copy the vig's power and suddenly we'd have two town-controlled NKs the following night. Or copy the doc's power, and we'd have two protections. Or at the very least an extra night's protection if the doc claimed. If Gogo is town, then we've got a VERY powerful set of combinations. (Which is part of the reason I still don't entirely trust MK).
I'm not sure how you'll interpret all of that, but it's food for thought that maybe your choice of alignments may be off-base. (As well as your assignment of certain roles)
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Can you post this plz
@Xatres: If I thought J was lying or anything I would just come into the thread, say so and kill myself and J via mod-vote/flush7 because if he was changing what I was saying I would know 100% he was scum. If I'm the scum and he's town then why would he lie? Also you skimmed hard in terms of the whole J 'outing himself' thing, at no point did I say he claimed scum, but made it obvious to me that he was. It also is worth J posting for me so if one of us flips town, everyone knows our thoughts and opinions. Its not 'adding confusion' as you say, its 'adding information' Terrible play from Xatres, now 100% on you being scum.
X1 would now be Voting: Xatres.
@Swiss: cello clearing BSL in #1174 remind you of anything? thinking castles and Mania. similar to the way he 'cleared' you no? even though he didn't know or care about your alignment. Just something to think about at this point.
Kupo!
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Can you post this plz
@Xatres: If I thought J was lying or anything I would just come into the thread, say so and kill myself and J via mod-vote/flush7 because if he was changing what I was saying I would know 100% he was scum. If I'm the scum and he's town then why would he lie? Also you skimmed hard in terms of the whole J 'outing himself' thing, at no point did I say he claimed scum, but made it obvious to me that he was. It also is worth J posting for me so if one of us flips town, everyone knows our thoughts and opinions. Its not 'adding confusion' as you say, its 'adding information' Terrible play from Xatres, now 100% on you being scum.
X1 would now be Voting: Xatres.
@Swiss: cello clearing BSL in #1174 remind you of anything? thinking castles and Mania. similar to the way he 'cleared' you no? even though he didn't know or care about your alignment. Just something to think about at this point.
Kupo!
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Swiss
Smash Lord
X1, Cello is town.
You are town. J is town. I am town. Vanz is (probably) town, BSL is town (ish), DH is town, Incom is town.
I think. K?
You are town. J is town. I am town. Vanz is (probably) town, BSL is town (ish), DH is town, Incom is town.
I think. K?
M.K
Level 55
If the flush votes are tied, does nobody die?
Swiss
Smash Lord
Neither J 'nor Cello would die from the flush voting, no.
BSL
B-B-B-BLAMM!!!
I can even out the flush 7.
#HBC | Nabe
Beneath it all, he had H-cups all along
If you're planning on making a flush vote at all, then you should immediately follow it up with the hammer. i.e. don't throw your flush vote anywhere until you're sure you want the day to end.