Fact 54 - Mewtwo Is On The Way [Social/General Discussion]

[praline]

That doesn't really change much. Remember Roy? His game was released about 4 months after SSBM in Japan. Got people jumping ship on Mewtwo in another forum and now they're expecting Sceptile. Peachy.



It'll unfortunately be Y. But I'd love to see X.

It'd probably be X since that's a more fighting game look but Y would make so much more sense and I hope it's Y cause X is ugly.

 

[Smashoperatingbuddy123]

No no no

Sakurai decided the roster before omega sapphire and alpha ruby got anounce did sakurai even know about this

Besides this might truely proove we get 6 or 7 poke reps now because the unlockable character can present for game release after the 3ds version of smash comes out

Besides what if they change it a little just like in fire red and leaf green and heart gold and soul silver to add pokemon and mewtwo is one of them in omega sapphire and alpha ruby

 

[Dalek_Kolt]

That doesn't really change much. Remember Roy? His game was released about 4 months after SSBM in Japan. Got people jumping ship on Mewtwo in another forum and now they're expecting Sceptile. Peachy.



It'll unfortunately be Y. But I'd love to see X.

Well, I'm not so much jumping ship as I am anticipating both Sceptile and Mewtwo. But if there were some upper limit as to how many Pokemon reps there can be, Mewtwo would definitely take precedence.

Besides, if Sceptile does make it in, every type from the Pokemon trading card game would be covered.

 

[praline]

No no no

Sakurai decided the roster before omega sapphire and alpha ruby got anounce did sakurai even know about this

Besides this might truely proove we get 6 or 7 poke reps now because the unlockable character can present for game release after the 3ds version of smash comes out

Besides what if they change it a little just like in fire red and leaf green and heart gold and soul silver to add pokemon and mewtwo is one of them in omega sapphire and alpha ruby

Sakurai might have been informed of it's release prior to finishing the roster as they were likely being made at the same time.

 

[SmashBroski]

Well, I'm not so much jumping ship as I am anticipating both Sceptile and Mewtwo. But if there were some upper limit as to how many Pokemon reps there can be, Mewtwo would definitely take precedence.

Besides, if Sceptile does make it in, every type from the Pokemon trading card game would be covered.

There's the issue with Jigglypuff as well on the grounds of the "original 12" argument.

Does that argument even bear merit anymore? Wasn't Jiggs almost cut in Brawl? Out of all the possible candidates of popular Pokemon icons (Luke, Jiggs, Zard, and Mewtwo) Jiggs was the least relevant in Gen. VI, only getting Fairy-typing compared to the other three.

 

[praline]

There's the issue with Jigglypuff as well on the grounds of the "original 12" argument.

Does that argument even bear merit anymore? Wasn't Jiggs almost cut in Brawl? Out of all the possible candidates of popular Pokemon icons (Luke, Jiggs, Zard, and Mewtwo) Jiggs was the least relevant in Gen. VI, only getting Fairy-typing compared to the other three.

You also can't even get Jigglypuff in gen 6 until before the last gym.

 

[VioletSmashfan]

No no no

Sakurai decided the roster before omega sapphire and alpha ruby got anounce did sakurai even know about this

Besides this might truely proove we get 6 or 7 poke reps now because the unlockable character can present for game release after the 3ds version of smash comes out

Besides what if they change it a little just like in fire red and leaf green and heart gold and soul silver to add pokemon and mewtwo is one of them in omega sapphire and alpha ruby

You got the names mixed up, it's Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire are the games' names.

 

[Jade_Rock55]

Sceptile for smash?Sure...but after Mewtwo is revealed please.Also,new pokemon games!

 

[Deleted member]

Mewtwo is at a risk again: Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire have been confirmed, and are to be released this year.

Hardly. 3rd gen getting a rep isn't as likely as many people think. And even if we do get one, I'd be more worried about Jigglypuff than anything.

 

[woopyfrood]

I'd be more worried about Jigglypuff than anything.

Gen 3 certainly has its own popular pokemon with a claim to relevancy in a fairy retyping. And mega evolution.

 

[Ridley_Prime]

It's silly paranoia to be increasingly concerned for Mewtwo over this.

 

[Morbi]

It's silly paranoia to be increasingly concerned for Mewtwo over this.

Who is increasingly concerned for Mewtwo? No Mewtwo supporter; that is for sure. We have objective fact and logic to support our character; the same cannot be said for every character.

 

[Ridley_Prime]

Yer.

Ah, I see Ryuuma in the Pokemon characters thread is at it again with the anti-Mewtwo straw grasping. Some people have no life.

 

[Steelia]

Who is increasingly concerned for Mewtwo? No Mewtwo supporter; that is for sure. We have objective fact and logic to support our character; the same cannot be said for every character.

Yeah. But despite his popularity and significance within the series, the dude was still cut from SSBB. I'd rather be pessimistic about his inclusion and happily proven wrong, versus totally positive of his inclusion (like I was during SSBB) and end up gravely mistaken.

 

[Morbi]

Yeah. But despite his popularity and significance within the series, the dude was still cut from SSBB. I'd rather be pessimistic about his inclusion and happily proven wrong, versus totally positive of his inclusion (like I was during SSBB) and end up gravely mistaken.

The circumstances around his omission were unavoidable; even Sonic takes priority over Mewtwo. However, he had nothing going for him in the Brawl era, now he has more going for him than Charizard. History will not repeat itself, there isn't good precedent to indicate otherwise.

 

[Xzsmmc]

Yeah. But despite his popularity and significance within the series, the dude was still cut from SSBB. I'd rather be pessimistic about his inclusion and happily proven wrong, versus totally positive of his inclusion (like I was during SSBB) and end up gravely mistaken.

I'm the same boat for Mewtwo and K. Rool. While all evidence points to them, there's no way to be sure.

 

[bobadz]

This has probably been mentioned before and will probably be mentioned again, but Mewtwo was planned for every Smash game so far. It along with Bowser, and Dedede were planned for smash 64, it got in Melee, and it was planned for brawl. Not many characters have that claim to fame.

 

[Aninymouse]

Jigglypuff, Mewtwo, and I guess Sceptile, now... Three Pokemon, probably two roster spots. I seriously hope Mewtwo makes it.

Greninja is fine for the Pokemon newcomer, I feel. I hope we don't get two. Bring some vets back, Sakurai!

 

[Deleted member]

Yer.

Ah, I see Ryuuma in the Pokemon characters thread is at it again with the anti-Mewtwo straw grasping. Some people have no life.

Arguing with him is painful.

This has probably been mentioned before and will probably be mentioned again, but Mewtwo was planned for ever Smash game so far. It along with Bowser , and Dedede were planned for smash 64, it got in Melee, and it was planned for brawl. Not many characters have that claim to fame.

I don't think anyone else could claim this. I'm 100% sure Mewtwo will be planned.

 

[Jade_Rock55]

I don't think anyone else could claim this. I'm 100% sure Mewtwo will be planned.

A lot is planned but will he make it?

 

[Deleted member]

A lot is planned but will he make it?

The reason why I am so confident in Mewtwo in comparison to other non-leaked/confirmed characters is because of various reasons; being the most wanted character period, being hinted at by Sakurai, and seeing a massive resurgence in relevance with the 6th gen. Not only am I confident in Mewtwo's return, I also think Mewtwo is going to be a high priority character.

 

[ultimatekoopa]

Why are people so worried about ruby and saphires remakes? Let me remind you people that Sakurai puts pokemon characters based on his current popularity, Sceptile isn't anywhere near as close as mewtwo in terms of popularity, blaziken is the only 3rd gen pkmn that can compare to him and he is unlikely, mewtwo chances are still very good, I'd say 85% at the least, Also, let me remind you people that mewtwo is set to appear in the next pkmn movie which will be released in July, close to smash bros 3ds date, I'd give sceptile a 25% and blaziken a 30%, let's not even talk about swampert

 

[Steelia]

Let me remind you people that Sakurai puts pokemon characters based on his current popularity, Sceptile isn't anywhere near as close as mewtwo in terms of popularity, blaziken is the only 3rd gen pkmn that can compare to him and he is unlikely, mewtwo chances are still very good, I'd say 85% at the least, Also, let me remind you people that mewtwo is set to appear in the next pkmn movie which will be released in July, close to smash bros 3ds date, I'd give sceptile a 25% and blaziken a 30%, let's not even talk about swampert

What about Greninja? The inclusion of the ninja frog pretty much throws all that out the window. Sure he's relevant, and had a rather small group of fans due to being a good starter... but other than that, he's had no major appearances in the anime, wasn't hugely popular, and hasn't even appeared in a lot of promotions for Game Freak merchandise. I'd probably be less worried if half of what Sakurai said about choosing Pokemon also pertained to Greninja.

 

[Swift Fox]

Just noticed that Rosalina's dodge move look similar to Mewtwo's recovery move in left/right direction.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=7xUWnQu2Grs#t=1462

 

[ultimatekoopa]

What about Greninja? The inclusion of the ninja frog pretty much throws all that out the window. Sure he's relevant, and had a rather small group of fans due to being a good starter... but other than that, he's had no major appearances in the anime, wasn't hugely popular, and hasn't even appeared in a lot of promotions for Game Freak merchandise. I'd probably be less worried if half of what Sakurai said about choosing Pokemon also pertained to Greninja.

1. The anime is only starting, even Charizard had to wait for a while to become important to the anime, pretty sure that Ash froakie will become the charizard or infernape of x and y series
2. Greninja was actually very popular shortly after the release of x and y, he is very popular in the metagame and has a cool design, pretty obvious that game freak tried to make greninja this generation's charizard and it is working
The way I see it mewtwo is still extremely likely

 

[I_hate_usernames]

Sorry, but I can't support the whole Septile gen 3 notion, SSB already has had 6 starter Pokemon in it, and quite frankly, I'm getting real sick of them being the front line in anything pokemon.

 

[Shroob]

Greninja is a design that hit it off, unlike Zoroark... Sorry Zoroark fans, but he never could beat Lucario in popularity.

I think Mewtwo is likely, but I'm unsure. Jigglypuff still needs to be shown/de-confirmed somehow.

 

[woopyfrood]

Who is increasingly concerned for Mewtwo? No Mewtwo supporter; that is for sure. We have objective fact and logic to support our character; the same cannot be said for every character.

The Sakurai is unfettered by the bonds of logical decisionmaking.

 

[Morbi]

The Sakurai is unfettered by the bonds of logical decisionmaking.

This is true, but at the same time, I feel better about supporting a character with everything going for him and nothing going against him.

 

[VioletSmashfan]

Gen 3 certainly has its own popular pokemon with a claim to relevancy in a fairy retyping. And mega evolution.

Unfortunately, Gardevoir (who's besides Jigglypuff and a few other Pokémon that got the Fairy type), has been de-confirmed for playable status and is likely to return as a Poke Ball Pokémon (since she was spotted in the Zard/Ninja Direct Trailer coming out of the swarm of Pokeballs.

 

[Aninymouse]

Unfortunately, Gardevoir (who's besides Jigglypuff and a few other Pokémon that got the Fairy type), has been de-confirmed for playable status and is likely to return as a Poke Ball Pokémon (since she was spotted in the Zard/Ninja Direct Trailer coming out of the swarm of Pokeballs.

Honestly, I thought of Blaziken when I read his post. Gardevoir fulfills the criteria, but isn't nearly as well-known outside the diehard online communities.

 

[Toxicroaker]

Honestly, I thought of Blaziken when I read his post. Gardevoir fulfills the criteria, but isn't nearly as well-known outside the diehard online communities.

Fairy type Blaziken. My life just got better.

 

[woopyfrood]

Unfortunately, Gardevoir (who's besides Jigglypuff and a few other Pokémon that got the Fairy type), has been de-confirmed for playable status and is likely to return as a Poke Ball Pokémon (since she was spotted in the Zard/Ninja Direct Trailer coming out of the swarm of Pokeballs.

I don't remember her (him?) being in the lineup.

Though it's severely unlikely, it's important to remember that characters have been shown and thought deconfirmed before turning out to be playable. Melee showed Pichu, though in Melee's intro it often wasn't clear who was playable and who was just included for the sake of the cinematic. R.O.B. was "deconfirmed" as a SSE enemy. It is not unlike Sakurai to be this sneaky, though I'm not sure he'll pull that this game.

 

[MewtwoX825]

Is everyone forgetting that Ash has a Sceptile and will be getting a Greninja as well?

 

[LordShade67]

Is everyone forgetting that Ash has a Sceptile and will be getting a Greninja as well?

That depends on if he actually evolves his Froakie, unlike his usual track record with water type starters.

 

[MewtwoX825]

That depends on if he actually evolves his Froakie, unlike his usual track record with water type starters.

Seeing how Gamefreak is pushing Greninja by being in this game I dont see why not.

 

[Aninymouse]

Is everyone forgetting that Ash has a Sceptile and will be getting a Greninja as well?

No one's forgotten that, it's just that we don't care about that. Personally, I feel like Advance Generation was so long ago that it is irrelevant.

Please take Sceptile support posts to the appropriate thread, though. No one wants that in here.

Also, it's a total guess that Ash will get a Greninja. There is zero evidence of that. Even if it did happen, why does that matter at all? Ash possibly getting a Greninja several months from now has exactly zero to do with Sceptile or Mewtwo in Smash.

 

[HermitHelmet]

There's not really any reason why Mewtwo should be back. X and Y has became more irrelevant now that the Hoenn Remakes have been announced. Also, Lucario will play too similarly to him. With or without Megas. Although I would like to see him back :D

 

[praline]

There's not really any reason why Mewtwo should be back. X and Y has became more irrelevant now that the Hoenn Remakes have been announced. Also, Lucario will play too similarly to him. With or without Megas. Although I would like to see him back :D

Yes Lucario's one similar move makes him play too similarly to Mewtwo.

 

[Hot Uncle Sparky]

There's not really any reason why Mewtwo should be back. X and Y has became more irrelevant now that the Hoenn Remakes have been announced. Also, Lucario will play too similarly to him. With or without Megas. Although I would like to see him back :D

WHAT?! So Lumiose City, Gen 6 Pokemon, Greninja, and Mega Evolution final smashes aren't representing one of the 3DS's biggest money makers? Lucario and Mewtwo currently have one move in common which even Samus also has.