Fact 54 - Mewtwo Is On The Way [Social/General Discussion]

[EddyBearr]

Yet the two of them are like completely different moves.

Aura Sphere: Special Fighting type move, base 80 power, never misses. Used by Lucario in Brawl.

Shadow Ball: Special Ghost type move, base 80 power, 100 accuracy but can miss if accuracy is lowered, 20% chance to lower target's special defense. Used by Mewtwo in melee.

Insignificant when it comes to smash.


OT: Lucario has a minimal effect on Mewtwo's chances.

 

[The Suit-less Ace]

In the Smash Bros. universe, I see him leaning more towards antagonistic, but not necessarily bad like Bowser or even Wario. One of his Japanese victory phrases from SSBM translates to "What am I doing here?" - the way he says this line, it sounds more like he's questioning his own life as opposed to expressing boredom on the battlefield. The whole "What is my purpose, why am I here?" thing from the 1st movie.

Whenever I refer to Mewtwo, it's usually grouping him with the villains, since he's one of the very few Pokemon that can be made to work in that group. It's not because I view him as evil, but because of his violent demeaner & cold personality.

I agree with this. I really see him as a neutral character above all else, especially in the games. Yes in the Smash Universe he sounds evil and stuff. Just look at his taunt when he does the evil laugh. It really depends on what you want to refer to. The anime, the game, or melee.

Me too. A franchise as big as Pokémon deserves a villian rep in Smash Bros. Plus Sakurai considers him a villian just by looking at Melee's event matches.

Event 51, that's important to mention.

 

[Ridley_Prime]

In the Smash Bros. universe, I see him leaning more towards antagonistic, but not necessarily bad like Bowser or even Wario. One of his Japanese victory phrases from SSBM translates to "What am I doing here?" - the way he says this line, it sounds more like he's questioning his own life as opposed to expressing boredom on the battlefield. The whole "What is my purpose, why am I here?" thing from the 1st movie.

Whenever I refer to Mewtwo, it's usually grouping him with the villains, since he's one of the very few Pokemon that can be made to work in that group. It's not because I view him as evil, but because of his violent demeaner & cold personality.

Every time I see this being talked about, part of me gets depressed thinking how they could always change that with Smash 4 in favor of Femtwo whose more "good" and less cold, etc. -sigh-

 

[Cpt.]

Personally I think that Lucario's Aura Sphere is differentiated even further from Mewtwo's Shadow Ball in SSB4.
It has an incredibly unique design and I'm pretty sure it can grow slightly bigger than Mewtwo's Shadow Ball.
Not that two characters can't have a similar move anyway.

Yeah it can be pretty absurd when people say they are the same character because they have a SIMILAR neutral b (not even the same). That's just pokeracist.

 

[Ridley_Prime]

I've said it before, I'll say it again. Kirby and Jigglypuff are more similar in gameplay than Mewtwo and Lucario are.

 

[Cpt.]

Has anyone seen a pic from Smash 4 that might hint to Mewtwo or other new pokes? I recall a picture showing a lot of veterans including jigglypuff.

 

[The Suit-less Ace]

Every time I see this being talked about, part of me gets depressed thinking how they could always change that with Smash 4 in favor of Femtwo whose more "good" and less cold, etc. -sigh-

There's only one Mewtwo.

 

[UltimateWario]

There's only one Mewtwo.

-fist bump-

 

[woopyfrood]

Are you talking about Sakurai's whiteboard drawing? The only Pokemon it had in it was Pikachu.

Depends on how casual the viewer is as well. I'm sure there are plenty of younger casual players who were not born with Melee, so it won't affect them much as long as they see Pikachu and Mario,

I respect your realism, but suffice it so say that we clearly have gone past the point of adding only the most casually noticeable characters, and if Sakurai was adding such further characters based solely on their potential monetary draw we would have a very different roster.

Even if that were the case, Mewtwo is pretty easily recognized (think of him as a "mascot" for legendaries), and he could draw in as much of a pretty penny as any other singular character. I mean, if we've both accepted that single, non-mascot characters cannot make or break the game, but we're going to be adding some anyway, Mewtwo is pretty high up there.

 

[Cpt.]

-fist bump-

There's only one Mewtwo.

Badass Mewtwo is the best Mewtwo

 

[MewtwoMaster2002]

I respect your realism, but suffice it so say that we clearly have gone past the point of adding only the most casually noticeable characters, and if Sakurai was adding such further characters based solely on their potential monetary draw we would have a very different roster.

Even if that were the case, Mewtwo is pretty easily recognized (think of him as a "mascot" for legendaries), and he could draw in as much of a pretty penny as any other singular character. I mean, if we've both accepted that single, non-mascot characters cannot make or break the game, but we're going to be adding some anyway, Mewtwo is pretty high up there.

With most casually noticeable characters, we are still waiting on Wario and Yoshi's reveals which will most likely happen. I agree that Mewtwo is high up there. The only reason for characters to be cut would be if Sakurai's team ran out of time again...

 

[GigaBowserXyZ]

With most casually noticeable characters, we are still waiting on Wario and Yoshi's reveals which will most likely happen. I agree that Mewtwo is high up there. The only reason for characters to be cut would be if Sakurai's team ran out of time again...

Which is a bit worrying since he said "I won't have time to bring back all the characters."

 

[Swamp Sensei]

Which is a bit worrying since he said "I won't have time to bring back all the characters."

He said that in regards to the whole series though.

Not just Brawl.

 

[Fire Emblemier]

I have a hunch Mewtwo might be revealed tomorrow, I'll explain more in depth why later, but I don't have enough time right now.

 

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

I have a hunch Mewtwo might be revealed tomorrow, I'll explain more in depth why later, but I don't have enough time right now.

I wouldn't get too excited there if I were you.

 

[Autumn ♫]

I have a hunch Mewtwo might be revealed tomorrow, I'll explain more in depth why later, but I don't have enough time right now.

Because it's Mewtwo's birthday?

 

[Steelia]

"I don't have enough time to explain."
"It's Mewtwo's birthday?"

Well, that was easy. Can't believe I completely forgot it was his b-day, for the first time in years

 

[Smashoperatingbuddy123]

"I don't have enough time to explain."
"It's Mewtwo's birthday?"

Well, that was easy. Can't believe I completely forgot it was his b-day, for the first time in years

His birthday is tomorrow

But for fans without of doubt don't overhype for this because if you do and tomorrow does not get revealed tomorrow you going to feel down down down

(Now the updates were about lucario mostly but) its ben nothing but pokemon updates since lucarios reveal

 

[Staarih]

I didn't even know it was Mewtwo's "birthday" tomorrow until now, and I can't be the only one (right??). I wouldn't expect any acknowledgment of it though, let alone a reveal of Mewtwo. I would think he deserves a trailer via a Direct or sorts... unless Sakurai thinks of him as a veteran, which he still sort of is, and reveals him randomly. But I doubt it.

 

[Louie G.]

If there's a Direct tomorrow, I may count on Mewtwo.
But Palutena just makes sense.

 

[IsmaR]

If there's a Direct tomorrow, I may count on Mewtwo.
But Palutena just makes sense.

She made sense when Lucario was revealed.

Except she didn't.

 

[Louie G.]

She made sense when Lucario was revealed.

Except she didn't.

I think I understand what you mean...

I suppose that Palutena may be held off a little longer, but by the end of this month or March I expect a Direct showing her off.
Sakurai's many hints at Palutena and new Kid Icarus stage make me ready for her eventual reveal.

 

[IsmaR]

As a Final Smash.

I'm not expecting any newcomers (assuming that Mewtwo still falls under a returning Veteran) prior to E3, personally.

 

[Louie G.]

not expecting any newcomers (assuming that Mewtwo still falls under a returning Veteran) prior to E3, personally.

I understand why, but I feel like we will be getting more frequent newcomer reveals, since the game is drawing nearer.
Based on the veterans revealed so far, I don't think Sakurai cares about revealing secret characters before launch, which is why I am expecting to see the entire roster beforehand.
(plus, if it gets leaked...)

 

[Smashoperatingbuddy123]

If there's a Direct tomorrow, I may count on Mewtwo.
But Palutena just makes sense.

Direct or not its still possible for mewtwo to reveal tomorrow

But if there was a direct tomorrow pretty much almost impossible for him not to be announced

Anyway of luigi gets a luigi day like back in August so why not mewtwo

 

[Louie G.]

Because Mewtwo is a very hype-worthy character, unlike Luigi (chokes) who to most, is not, since he was an obvious return anyway.
Mewtwo is one of the characters that can really get people interested in the game.
So I would say that it isn't possible. A quiet reveal on the website is not what Mewtwo deserves, nor what Mewtwo will receive.

 

[Fire Emblemier]

I wouldn't get too excited there if I were you.

I'm not hyping or expecting it, but a small hunch to commemorate his birth. Plus, with Lucario confirmed, him and Mewtwo fighting would be perfect trailer materail. I just hope we get the "Mewtwo Strikes Back" as the memetic introduction.

 

[Cpt.]

Because Mewtwo is a very hype-worthy character, unlike Luigi (chokes) who to most, is not, since he was an obvious return anyway.
Mewtwo is one of the characters that can really get people interested in the game.
So I would say that it isn't possible. A quiet reveal on the website is not what Mewtwo deserves, nor what Mewtwo will receive.

Yeah I agree, it would be awesome to see Mewtwo come back tomorrow, but he is one of the most wanted character for Smash 4 so it's only logical that he would get some major announcement.

 

[kylexv]

"I don't have enough time to explain."
"It's Mewtwo's birthday?"

Well, that was easy. Can't believe I completely forgot it was his b-day, for the first time in years

Sakurai has been giving us a LOT of pokemon stuff this week. I doubt will get revealed tomorrow

 

[False Sense]

I kind of doubt that Mewtwo would be revealed in commemoration of his birthday. It's not exactly the kind of thing that would correlate to a character reveal. It could happen, but it seems unlikely.

As a side note, we've been seeing a lot of Pokemon stuff this week. I guess Mewtwo could fit in with that at least. Although personally, I'm hoping for a new Pokemon stage reveal at the end of the week.

 

[woopyfrood]

I doubt Mewtwo will be revealed just to correlate with a bit of Pokemon trivia.

Still, it's nice to think about...

 

[woopyfrood]

Here's to you, Mewtwo, you dark, brooding, psychic kangaroo.

Happy Birthday.

EDIT: Also, Pokebank is something big and important and it was just released for the rest of the world on the 5th. COINCIDENCE?

 

[MewtwoMaster2002]

Today is just a pic of the day with Rosalina's galaxy coming from under her gown. Happy birthday to Mewtwo though!

 

[IsmaR]

Rosalina gave birth to the universe/Arceus, who in turned gave birth to Mew/two.

 

[woopyfrood]

Eh? Mew gave birth to Mewtwo in the game's canon.

I guess what you're trying to get at is Rosalina->Cosmos->Arceus->Mew->Mewtwo?

Anyway, I think the whole "Mother of the Cosmos" thing for Rosalina is just fan title. I only played Galaxy 1, and I can't remember if Rosalina is just a normal human who acquired enormous responsibility/power, or is supposed to effectively be a a straight-up deity.

 

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

I'm not going to derail this thread with that question. Anyway, Mewtwo is probably still meditating inside the Cerulean Cave, waiting for the right moment to pounce.

 

[Smashoperatingbuddy123]

I'm not going to derail this thread with that question. Anyway, Mewtwo is probably still meditating inside the Cerulean Cave, waiting for the right moment to pounce.

Which would be a direct or E3 I saw this coming due to being casual day not a special day

 

[Cpt.]

Happy Birthday Mewtwo! Maybe your birthday wish will come true this year!

 

[Deleted member]

Happy Birthday to the mutated Mew fetus of awesomeness.

 

[Fire Emblemier]