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Fact 54 - Mewtwo Is On The Way [Social/General Discussion]

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Maybe at the end of the direct we'll see the trailer for Mewtwo and maybe some info about the pricing for those who don't have both of the games
 

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What I would like to see: update on Mewtwo or SMExFE.
What will probably happen: Neither of those.
 

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Customary Welcoming to the Boards:

Hope you enjoy your time here!

I seriously doubt the Direct, though. A surprise Direct seems very unlikely, and it's the day before. I think we would have gotten an announcement by now.
Haha i didn't know u r getting a welcoming here, thanks a lot, i am sure i will.:b:
Yes, i didn't really believe it myself but as we can see now there is actually one, seems like the hoping wasn't that useless.
Now they only have to announce some new stuff about the dlc and everything perfectly works out (for at least) :pimp:
 

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Seeing more Mewtwo footage in the direct, or even a picture... ANYTHING... would be the best start to this year! I really hope we see something.
According to this one here there won't be any news about smash 4, so neither mewtwo.. i hope that's not like the direct will really look like
 

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According to this one here there won't be any news about smash 4, so neither mewtwo.. i hope that's not like the direct will really look like
BF DLC screams fake IMO. I don't trust this at all.
 

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In other news the New 3DS may arrive in NA sooner than most thought...

http://www.gamnesia.com/news/gamest...-in-north-america-on-february-13#.VLSDlSvF8rX

So who's being suckered into getting one? And who thinks I should get one? And who's getting the XL? Regular? Who thinks Club Nintendo of America will do an ambassador edition for these like Nintendo of Europe? Who thinks I'm asking too many questions? I do!

And yes, this is Mewtwo-related because A.) Smash attacks with nub, B.) Potential New 3DS-exclusive features for upcoming Pokémon games, and C.) Possible Mewtwo cover plates.
I could buy a New3DS in the future, but only when there are already a fair number of exclusive games for it. Moreover, at that moment probably it will be possible to find a new3DS at a lower price. Or rather, a completely new nintendo handheld console would have been announced, so I'd wait directly that

It wouldn't have worked. The circle pad pro takes up 5% of the 3DS's processing power. The 3DS just wouldn't have been able to physically run both Smash and the circle pad pro.
some people play with smash3ds using a gamecube controller, so probably that sakurai's assertion was an untrue excuse
 

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1. How much better is the web browser? Can it handle .png images? Can you load all the stuff on Smashboards?
[collapse=] Huh, completely forgot these things were internet compatible...

Well I google searched .PNG and loaded up a few pages of pictures, the 3DS didn't seem to mind, although the pictures were a bit pixely due to the smaller resolution.

For a more stressful test I loaded up Newgrounds and went though their flash movies and watched "the best Pokemon." It loaded up both pages and played the .SWF just fine. I can't remember if I tried this on a normal 3DS, but it's much better than the DSi which RAM crashed loading Wikipedia and couldn't play .SWf's at all.

Smashboards is ugly and clunky with the 3DS web browser but otherwise loads up fine.[/collapse]

2. Do existing 3DS games run better? Like the lag in Pokemon XY when you turn on the 3D, etc.
[collapse=] Well, Pokemon is the only 3DS game I own that puts any form of strain on my old 3DS, the New 3DS does seem to run "Better" Pokemon X/Y still lag quite a bit, but I believe that it's more due to it's terrible optimization more than anything. Regardless Pokemon is turn based so it doesn't matter so much, and every game I've played that requires twitch reflects and direct input run like butter!

Smash Bro's also loads a fair bit faster, but since both models of 3DS are SSD's it's barley noticeable. (Loading times on 3DS are super fast anyway, so it's kind of moot.) [/collapse]

3. Is the 3D easier to view with the supposed head tracking or whatever it is they implemented? In other words, is it less temperamental and blurry?
[collapse=] I'm left handed and have practiced archery for years, which means I'm one eye dominant.

This makes stereoscopic 3D really hard for me to differentiate, basically, every form of 3D comes out as a fair bit blurry. That being said the 3D in the New 3DS is a very much definite improvement over the old model, the tracker actually does a very good job of figuring out the distance and angle of your face and adjusts accordingly.

Not 100%, but a definite improvement. [/collapse]

4. How is the battery life compared to a normal 3DS/XL?
[collapse=]Basically the same, get a good half day use of battery with wi-fi turned on, however it does seem to use more energy if you put it to sleep with wireless on. I suspect that Wi-fi is going full blast compared to it going to sleep too with the older models. however, turn Wi-Fi off and it's the same sleep energy consumption as the normal 3DS, so about a week on sleep.

(The 3DS has an actually really good battery life) [/collapse]

5. How much do they cost compared to an old XL?
[collapse=]You're not going to believe it, but the New 3DS XL in New Zealand is actually cheaper than the 3DS XL!

I brought the New 3DS XL on day one launch for $280NZD (November the 21st). As I am looking up right now, the price has remained the same for the New 3DS XL but the older models are going from $300-350NZD. I'm not sure if this Australasia's F'ked up pricing system for video games, or if Nintendo is selling for a cheaper cut than that of the normal 3DS. (It's worth noting that the New 3DS is being released early due to lack of demand in NZ and AU, the cheaper price may be in order to peak interest more, and promote the new product) [/collapse]

6. Any other observations, disappointments, or things you enjoy about it?
[collapse=]A few, mostly minor niggles and complaints.

1) The New 3DS Does not come with it's own charger! I don't know if it's to cut costs or if Japan has a stigma for chargers (I've heard similar complaints about PSP chargers too). So keep that in mind if you are a fist time 3DS/DSi owner. The official dock charger for the New 3DS is about $20, but you can get USB chargers online for dirt cheap too!

2) You can't register your New 3DS with Club Nintendo! "What that? So I can't get rewards for buying an additional and expensive product months before it's international release and before any real companies have adapted around it? Yeah f'k you too Nintendo!"

3) the 2nd C-stick is stiff, this may be a game changer for some, but the second c-stick actually doesn't move at all! It's a stiff little nub that juts out and puts directional commands adjacent to where it scenes pressure, it's more of a button than a joysick, it's going to take some getting used to, and a few may not like it at all.

4) Download speeds are noticeably faster! I'm a man who likes physical copies so I can't truly say how great the change is, but there is, but patches and updates are far faster and smoother than when I use my old 3DS, I am thinking of downloading the complete series of Phoenix Wright, and if I notice anything else I'll add it on!

5) The New 3DS now has 2 hinges! so you ruffians out there are less likely to snap the top half off!
[/collapse]
 
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[collapse=] Huh, completely forgot these things were internet compatible...

Well I google searched .PNG and loaded up a few pages of pictures, the 3DS didn't seem to mind, although the pictures were a bit pixely due to the smaller resolution.

For a more stressful test I loaded up Newgrounds and went though their flash movies and watched "the best Pokemon." It loaded up both pages and played the .SWF just fine. I can't remember if I tried this on a normal 3DS, but it's much better than the DSi which RAM crashed loading Wikipedia and couldn't play .SWf's at all.

Smashboards is ugly and clunky with the 3DS web browser but otherwise loads up fine.[/collapse]



[collapse=] Well, Pokemon is the only 3DS game I own that puts any form of strain on my old 3DS, the New 3DS does seem to run "Better" Pokemon X/Y still lag quite a bit, but I believe that it's more due to it's terrible optimization more than anything. Regardless Pokemon is turn based so it doesn't matter so much, and every game I've played that requires twitch reflects and direct input run like butter!

Smash Bro's also loads a fair bit faster, but since both models of 3DS are SSD's it's barley noticeable. (Loading times on 3DS are super fast anyway, so it's kind of moot.) [/collapse]



[collapse=] I'm left handed and have practiced archery for years, which means I'm one eye dominant.

This makes stereoscopic 3D really hard for me to differentiate, basically, every form of 3D comes out as a fair bit blurry. That being said the 3D in the New 3DS is a very much definite improvement over the old model, the tracker actually does a very good job of figuring out the distance and angle of your face and adjusts accordingly.

Not 100%, but a definite improvement. [/collapse]



[collapse=]Basically the same, get a good half day use of battery with wi-fi turned on, however it does seem to use more energy if you put it to sleep with wireless on. I suspect that Wi-fi is going full blast compared to it going to sleep too with the older models. however, turn Wi-Fi off and it's the same sleep energy consumption as the normal 3DS, so about a week on sleep.

(The 3DS has an actually really good battery life) [/collapse]



[collapse=]You're not going to believe it, but the New 3DS XL in New Zealand is actually cheaper than the 3DS XL!

I brought the New 3DS XL on day one launch for $280NZD (November the 21st). As I am looking up right now, the price has remained the same for the New 3DS XL but the older models are going from $300-350NZD. I'm not sure if this Australasia's F'ked up pricing system for video games, or if Nintendo is selling for a cheaper cut than that of the normal 3DS. (It's worth noting that the New 3DS is being released early due to lack of demand in NZ and AU, the cheaper price may be in order to peak interest more, and promote the new product) [/collapse]



[collapse=]A few, mostly minor niggles and complaints.

1) The New 3DS Does not come with it's own charger! I don't know if it's to cut costs or if Japan has a stigma for chargers (I've heard similar complaints about PSP chargers too). So keep that in mind if you are a fist time 3DS/DSi owner. The official dock charger for the New 3DS is about $20, but you can get USB chargers online for dirt cheap too!

2) You can't register your New 3DS with Club Nintendo! "What that? So I can't get rewards for buying an additional and expensive product months before it's international release and before any real companies have adapted around it? Yeah f'k you too Nintendo!"

3) the 2nd C-stick is stiff, this may be a game changer for some, but the second c-stick actually doesn't move at all! It's a stiff little nub that juts out and puts directional commands adjacent to where it scenes pressure, it's more of a button than a joysick, it's going to take some getting used to, and a few may not like it at all.

4) Download speeds are noticeably faster! I'm a man who likes physical copies so I can't truly say how great the change is, but there is, but patches and updates are far faster and smoother than when I use my old 3DS, I am thinking of downloading the complete series of Phoenix Wright, and if I notice anything else I'll add it on!

5) The New 3DS now has 2 hinges! so you ruffians out there are less likely to snap the top half off!
[/collapse]
Pretty damn sure it has something to do with Australia's stupid ass tax bs
 

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Mewtwo footage please. Direct.

I unfortunately can't see it live due to time zone differences and classes, but the minute I can. I'll see what transpired.
 

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Pretty damn sure it has something to do with Australia's stupid *** tax bs
I'm from NZ, and brought both systems from NZ, so I'm not sure that applies to me.

Also to clarify, is this Nintendo direct tomorrow?or starting in a couple of hours? Global times confuse the s**t outta me!
 
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[collapse=] Huh, completely forgot these things were internet compatible...

Well I google searched .PNG and loaded up a few pages of pictures, the 3DS didn't seem to mind, although the pictures were a bit pixely due to the smaller resolution.

For a more stressful test I loaded up Newgrounds and went though their flash movies and watched "the best Pokemon." It loaded up both pages and played the .SWF just fine. I can't remember if I tried this on a normal 3DS, but it's much better than the DSi which RAM crashed loading Wikipedia and couldn't play .SWf's at all.

Smashboards is ugly and clunky with the 3DS web browser but otherwise loads up fine.[/collapse]



[collapse=] Well, Pokemon is the only 3DS game I own that puts any form of strain on my old 3DS, the New 3DS does seem to run "Better" Pokemon X/Y still lag quite a bit, but I believe that it's more due to it's terrible optimization more than anything. Regardless Pokemon is turn based so it doesn't matter so much, and every game I've played that requires twitch reflects and direct input run like butter!

Smash Bro's also loads a fair bit faster, but since both models of 3DS are SSD's it's barley noticeable. (Loading times on 3DS are super fast anyway, so it's kind of moot.) [/collapse]



[collapse=] I'm left handed and have practiced archery for years, which means I'm one eye dominant.

This makes stereoscopic 3D really hard for me to differentiate, basically, every form of 3D comes out as a fair bit blurry. That being said the 3D in the New 3DS is a very much definite improvement over the old model, the tracker actually does a very good job of figuring out the distance and angle of your face and adjusts accordingly.

Not 100%, but a definite improvement. [/collapse]



[collapse=]Basically the same, get a good half day use of battery with wi-fi turned on, however it does seem to use more energy if you put it to sleep with wireless on. I suspect that Wi-fi is going full blast compared to it going to sleep too with the older models. however, turn Wi-Fi off and it's the same sleep energy consumption as the normal 3DS, so about a week on sleep.

(The 3DS has an actually really good battery life) [/collapse]



[collapse=]You're not going to believe it, but the New 3DS XL in New Zealand is actually cheaper than the 3DS XL!

I brought the New 3DS XL on day one launch for $280NZD (November the 21st). As I am looking up right now, the price has remained the same for the New 3DS XL but the older models are going from $300-350NZD. I'm not sure if this Australasia's F'ked up pricing system for video games, or if Nintendo is selling for a cheaper cut than that of the normal 3DS. (It's worth noting that the New 3DS is being released early due to lack of demand in NZ and AU, the cheaper price may be in order to peak interest more, and promote the new product) [/collapse]



[collapse=]A few, mostly minor niggles and complaints.

1) The New 3DS Does not come with it's own charger! I don't know if it's to cut costs or if Japan has a stigma for chargers (I've heard similar complaints about PSP chargers too). So keep that in mind if you are a fist time 3DS/DSi owner. The official dock charger for the New 3DS is about $20, but you can get USB chargers online for dirt cheap too!

2) You can't register your New 3DS with Club Nintendo! "What that? So I can't get rewards for buying an additional and expensive product months before it's international release and before any real companies have adapted around it? Yeah f'k you too Nintendo!"

3) the 2nd C-stick is stiff, this may be a game changer for some, but the second c-stick actually doesn't move at all! It's a stiff little nub that juts out and puts directional commands adjacent to where it scenes pressure, it's more of a button than a joysick, it's going to take some getting used to, and a few may not like it at all.

4) Download speeds are noticeably faster! I'm a man who likes physical copies so I can't truly say how great the change is, but there is, but patches and updates are far faster and smoother than when I use my old 3DS, I am thinking of downloading the complete series of Phoenix Wright, and if I notice anything else I'll add it on!

5) The New 3DS now has 2 hinges! so you ruffians out there are less likely to snap the top half off!
[/collapse]
Thank you so much for all your answers! Is it weird that the Club Nintendo thing bothers me the most? I still have my 3DS XL wall charger, so that's not a concern. I'm also not sure the stiff nature of the c-nub will work out or not, but I'm hoping they'll have floor models when this thing comes out, so you can try it. Overall, this seems like a fairly positive review in my book :)
 
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I hope we get a trailer and an update to the Smash page that features Mewtwo.
Then we can actually put Mewtwo as our Smash Bros. main. >.> I'm so tired of waiting to change it! lol
 

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I'm dying to see Mewtwo's official artwork :)

By the way, guys, if I were you I wouldn't expect a trailer this soon. It's just too early. Remember he's being released in Spring (most likely April) and the hype will explode if they show him in the March direct near release. If they release it now, the hype won't be as strong.

By the way, I was thinking of something, and I want to know your opinion. What would you think if Mewtwo was, aside from downloadable, unlockable? Imagine finishing the download and then...

CHALLENGER APPROACHING! And then you have to fight Mewtwo before you can actually use him. Why? I don't know, but I think it would be pretty fun :)

OMG I CAN'T BELIEVE WE'RE ACTUALLY TALKING ABOUT MEWTWO'S RETURN!!!! I CAN'T BELIEVE IT I'M SO EFFING HAPPY :'''''D
 
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I'm dying to see Mewtwo's official artwork :)

By the way, guys, if I were you I wouldn't expect a trailer this soon. It's just too early. Remember he's being released in Spring (most likely April) and the hype will explode if they show him in the March direct near release. If they release it now, the hype won't be as strong.

By the way, I was thinking of something, and I want to know your opinion. What would you think if Mewtwo was, aside from downloadable, unlockable? Imagine finishing the download and then...

CHALLENGER APPROACHING! And then you have to fight Mewtwo before you can actually use him. Why? I don't know, but I think it would be pretty fun :)

OMG I CAN'T BELIEVE WE'RE ACTUALLY TALKING ABOUT MEWTWO'S RETURN!!!! I CAN'T BELIEVE IT I'M SO EFFING HAPPY :'''''D
I think they should make him "unlockable" in the game in some way. Simply downloading him and having him as soon as you do so would kind of feel like a cheat. But in the end, I guess it doesn't matter. lol
 

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I think they should make him "unlockable" in the game in some way. Simply downloading him and having him as soon as you do so would kind of feel like a cheat. But in the end, I guess it doesn't matter. lol
Inb4 you have to play 20 hours again. That won't be a problem for me, though :)

Also I'm kind of worried that Mewtwo won't be treated as an actual character for the game. I mean, I hope that after he's unlocked/downloaded he will appear as an opponent in Classic mode, and his shadow appears in the background in the sound test and things like that. These are very small details but they matter to me. I want to feel he's an actual thing in the game and not just an extra added late. I don't know if you guys get my point.
 

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I think they should make him "unlockable" in the game in some way. Simply downloading him and having him as soon as you do so would kind of feel like a cheat. But in the end, I guess it doesn't matter. lol
I disagree. In fact, I wish that all the characters had been unlocked from the start. It's arbitrary, especially for characters they revealed publicly anyway like Lucina and Duck Hunt.
 

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I'm dying to see Mewtwo's official artwork :)

By the way, guys, if I were you I wouldn't expect a trailer this soon. It's just too early. Remember he's being released in Spring (most likely April) and the hype will explode if they show him in the March direct near release. If they release it now, the hype won't be as strong.
I'm not agree with you, because the hype of these days is useful to persuade more people to buy both version to receive mewtwo. Yes, the same effect can be achieved if they release a trailer laiter, but with more days available, people can organize better to pick the version of smash they still doesn't have.

Moreover, we had trailers about newcomers months earlier than SSB's release, and the hype isn't fainted. On the opposite, "to strike while the iron is hot" is a good strategy of marketing, to maintain the attention high
 

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I'm not agree with you, because the hype of these days is useful to persuade more people to buy both version to receive mewtwo. Yes, the same effect can be achieved if they release a trailer laiter, but with more days available, people can organize better to pick the version of smash they still doesn't have.

Moreover, we had trailers about newcomers months earlier than SSB's release, and the hype isn't fainted. On the opposite, "to strike while the iron is hot" is a good strategy of marketing, to maintain the attention high
Hmmm, well put. I never thought of it that way!
 

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I think they should make him "unlockable" in the game in some way. Simply downloading him and having him as soon as you do so would kind of feel like a cheat. But in the end, I guess it doesn't matter. lol
What fighting game requires you to fight a DLC character to unlock them anyway? Injustice, MVC3, and PSASBR(ugh) don't ask you to do that, which is nice.
 

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I'm dying to see Mewtwo's official artwork :)
I feel like I'm only person who actually thought about this on a regular basis. Personally, I'd like to see Mewtwo levitating with his arms crossed, glaring into the middle distance. Crossing arms is almost synonymous to Mewtwo in Smash. Obviously, there was his Taunt, but he also crossed them during his Teetering animation, while he was sleeping, during his D-Air and U-Air, when he was Helpless, falling, and Double Jumping, when he walked forward, and during his U-Throw. I'd like to see that reflected in his art. Levitating and glaring should be obvious, considering Mewtwo's personality.

Also, I don't trust that list at all. There's no Splatoon, which should almost be a given when you consider it's upcoming release, and the absence of Smash 4/Mewtwo news is also odd. The official tweet said it was on info for "Spring '15" games, which is such an obvious reference to Mewtwo's stated release window, it's almost painfully so.

Gonna miss the live direct, though. School...
 

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I wonder if Mewtwo will be a grabber, his Melee incarnation sounds like his throws were the most powerful thing about him.
 

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RE: Palutena PAH eternal goddess my arse! she couldn't "God" herself out of a washbasket if it were not for her lapdog Pit!

RE: New 3DS, Had a new 3DS XL for months, feel free to ask me any questions if you are curious.

Direct is on at 3AM for me. Darn!
OK, I'm back and I have some questions.
1.) Which size did you get (regular, right?) and why did you pick that size?
1½.) If you did get the NewReg then how was the transition from oldXL to new regular size?
2.) Did you get try out either model before purchase?
3.) Is pixel density a real problem in XL models? Is 3D better in XL or on the New 3DS?
4.) What do you like/regret about buying the New3DS? Would you warrant a purchase on the New3DS to an owner is the old3DS?

Edit:

Here's a supposed leaked promo poster and I just now realized (yes, it took me this long) that the "new" in New Nintendo 3DS is stylized like the amiibo logo. So it looks like Nintendo are really pushing amiibo compatibility. Also if it's legit then it's coming to NA Feb. 13th.

"Thanks to all that sent this in! Just so you know, multiple GameStop sources have confirmed this as real, including a personal source."-GoNintendo
 
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I could buy a New3DS in the future, but only when there are already a fair number of exclusive games for it. Moreover, at that moment probably it will be possible to find a new3DS at a lower price. Or rather, a completely new nintendo handheld console would have been announced, so I'd wait directly that



some people play with smash3ds using a gamecube controller, so probably that sakurai's assertion was an untrue excuse
People who play with a GCC have modded the console. Most likely the GCC's aren't acting as a peripheral device and don't require extra processing power and instead act as the 'built in' device.
The circle pad pro actually does require some of the 3DS processing power. It's actually prevented a few developers from using it. The circle pad pro can't be used with Retro City Rampage but the New 3DS's C-stick can for similar reasons.
 

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*Waiting for Mewtwo*

Hmm..... Still closed... Still closed... Still not released... Hmmmm.... Mmmmmmm....
 

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Does anyone know if the MicroSD is included in the New Nintendo 3DS or will they want us to buy one separate? I know it was included in Europe's ambassador bundle. I'm going to enter all of my Club Nintendo codes tomorrow just incase NA does it too and having a certain amount of coins is the criteria.
 

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Gonna get the New Nintendo 3DS XL, REALLY hope Nintendo works on new games with this, also, is this considered a new console(I know its not lmao, but would it be?) because there are more options than a normal 3ds, not to mention the better 3D.
 

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According to this one here there won't be any news about smash 4, so neither mewtwo.. i hope that's not like the direct will really look like
That looks fake. There's no way Gamefreak is going to put Battle Frontier for a whooping 10 bucks
 

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I'd be in for downloading a battle frontier because it's so easy to cheese that stuff these days with Entrainment Durant, Mega Kangaskhan, and Speed Boost Blaziken.


Does anyone know if the MicroSD is included in the New Nintendo 3DS or will they want us to buy one separate? I know it was included in Europe's ambassador bundle. I'm going to enter all of my Club Nintendo codes tomorrow just incase NA does it too and having a certain amount of coins is the criteria.
It will include a basic self-branded Micro SD card. It just won't include a charger.
 

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I'd be in for downloading a battle frontier because it's so easy to cheese that stuff these days with Entrainment Durant, Mega Kangaskhan, and Speed Boost Blaziken.


It will include a basic self-branded Micro SD card. It just won't include a charger.
Is the NN3DS going to have the same charger hole as the 3DS one
 

WVdUde

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For some reason I have the urge to buy a bunch of blank white faceplates and just draw my own designs on them... OR buy a bunch for meeting Nintendo employees and game developers and have each of them sign a different set of plates.
 
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