Fact 54 - Mewtwo Is On The Way [Social/General Discussion]

[Neanderthal]

I REALLY hope that lucario isn't cut for mewtwo. I like him better.

sorryicanhavemyopinionstooyouknow

feelfreetohaveanopinionaboutthatbutkeepitoutofthemewtwothreadunlessyouwanttobeflamed.

 

[Swift Fox]

feelfreetohaveanopinionaboutthatbutkeepitoutofthemewtwothreadunlessyouwanttobeflamed.

heneversaidhehatesmewtwo.

 

[Diddy Kong]

I'd take Mewtwo over Lucario, no problem.

 

[Starcutter]

 

[Ember Reaper]

Lucario is actually my favorite Pokemon. I would be saddened to see him go, but if for whatever reason Lucario and Mewtwo conflict (which they really shouldn't) Mewtwo should be the one who gets in because of his "villain" status, popularity, role in anime and movies, everything about him

 

[Steelia]

On a side note, there was a special airing of that new Mewtwo movie in Japan with select audiences. Apparently the Mewtwo used in that movie is not the same Mewtwo used in the 1st; it's an entirely new clone, hence its female voice cast & the ability to randomly forme change.

So while it wouldn't make much sense, I'd love to hear the old voice of Mewtwo (Masachika Ichimura) used for the Base Forme & the new voice (Reiko Takashima) used for the Awakened Forme in SSB4. That'd be fun.

 

[Diddy Kong]

Ohh really this new Mewtwo is a totally new one? It's kinda cool, but also a little dissapointing... Seeing as I always liked to think Mewtwo was so insanely powerful, they wouldn't even dare trying to make a new one. What happened to OG Mewtwo I wonder?

 

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

Lucario is actually my favorite Pokemon. I would be saddened to see him go, but if for whatever reason Lucario and Mewtwo conflict (which they really shouldn't) Mewtwo should be the one who gets in because of his "villain" status, popularity, role in anime and movies, everything about him

Mewtwo has more in common with Shadow the Hedgehog though, as they're both portrayed as anti-heroes now.

 

[Ridley_Prime]

Oh great, was hoping that speculation wasn't true. I wonder who is responsible for the cloning/creation of the new Mewtwo then. Obviously not Team Rocket, since the original wiped clean their memory of him.

Other than that I do like what I've been hearing about the other new form supposedly resembling Mew even more, but will have to wait till I actually see it before saying more on the matter.

 

[Deleted member]

Until there is some part either in another movie or even a special where both Mewtwo meet and find companionship in each other, this whole deal about Mewtwo is not wrapped up.

Strange that people don't get that this is the 3rd Mewtwo to exist within the anime. Even if the Mirage Mewtwo was artificial rather than flesh and blood, it still counts.

 

[Ridley_Prime]

Yeah that's true, though it being a different Mewtwo seems even more likely now and would explain why it had a female VA, and I wouldn't mind seeing the two Mewtwo together like you described. Could be like how the two Deoxys became reunited at the end of the Deoxys movie, and maybe the two Mewtwo could battle something together like when the Deoxys duo beat that Rayquaza together who was being a **** to them.

Not only was Mirage Mewtwo artificial rather than flesh, but also had moves that Mewtwo himself could never normally learn/use, so that's probably why people are questionable on counting it. I'm well aware of its existence though, having brought it up in this thread before.

 

[woopyfrood]

On a side note, there was a special airing of that new Mewtwo movie in Japan with select audiences. Apparently the Mewtwo used in that movie is not the same Mewtwo used in the 1st; it's an entirely new clone, hence its female voice cast & the ability to randomly forme change.

That is ridiculous and disappointing.

 

[Deleted member 212841]

On a side note, there was a special airing of that new Mewtwo movie in Japan with select audiences. Apparently the Mewtwo used in that movie is not the same Mewtwo used in the 1st; it's an entirely new clone, hence its female voice cast & the ability to randomly forme change.

Can you provide a source for this please?

 

[Steelia]

Can you provide a source for this please?

Sure thing: http://www.serebiiforums.com/showth...-Mewtwo-FIRST-DETAILS&p=16113065#post16113065

It was provided by someone who watched the movie who was willing to answer questions, and translated from Japanese to English.

 

[Deleted member 212841]

I did some researching to find the original source and this is what I found.

The important quote:
http://puu.sh/3sEwe.png

The conversation it was in:
https://twitter.com/nanamaru/status/351297843069333506

along with some other info:
https://twitter.com/nanamaru/status/351307047196819456

and with the guy's twitter account cause I don't know how to pull up the full conversation between two people (plus he talks with a few others):
https://twitter.com/nanamaru

 

[Hotfeet444]

Well, I finally got around to designing Mewtwo for Smash Bros 4:

This is mostly based on his normal forme than anything else, but that's mainly because so little is known about the abilities of the awakened forme so this will most likely be remade in the future.

 

[ryuu seika]

So Mewtwo has a reason to return now? That's kinda cool.
I never really liked him outside of Smash but Melee Mewtwo was an undeniably good combatant for the game to have have and I'd very much like to see him return, with or without random "awakenings".

 

[Vanilla]

I wrote this up for my work and I'm curious about your thoughts:

"As many of you Baby Birds already know, we here at BoomPopMedia love to speculate on what characters will make the roster for Super Smash Bros. 4. Daniel Pope already wrote up 5 reasons why he thinks Waluigi should be added and I wrote up 4 reasons why Darkrai could make the cut as well.

Neither of those characters, however, are returning veterans and it’s always sort of tough to try to figure out which characters will be back. Some characters seem like they’ll obviously be back (Luigi, Captain Falcon, Ness, Jigglypuff, Yoshi) and others seem extremely likely (Peach, Zelda, Marth, Ice Climbers, Wario) while others seem relatively unlikely (Lucario, Pichu) to return. In this edition of List O’ Games, I’m presenting 5 reasons why I’m pretty sure Mewtwo will return to the Super Smash Bros. franchise in some form."

Full article: List O' Games: 5 reasons Awakened Mewtwo and/or Mewtwo will probably be in Super Smash Bros. 4.

 

[UberMadman]

To be fair though, the movies and the games do not always share canon, and since I don't think gamefreak is going to make only specific Mewtwo able to transform, the games might do something different with Buutwo's origin story.

 

[Deleted member 212841]

I'm figuring they are just going to ignore the new Ladytwo altogether and go for the classic and far more iconic version like they did for Megaman. (plus they already had him that way in Melee) Although, they could also do something like they did with IC now that there are two Mewtwos canon wise. (I think there was some speculation of a new duo based off of some comment by Sakurai)

Or they could just go for the new Ladytwo with awakened/normal formes but I like to stay optimistic.

 

[Deleted member]

A Mewtwo tag-team?

......wut?

 

[Diddy Kong]

A second wut here.

I mean. Wut *****?

I really liked the vid Hotfeet posted btw.

 

[Deleted member 212841]

Why not? If anime wise only the Ladytwo gets the new transformation (seems reasonable enough) you could revive the iconic character and introduce the second Mewtwo to represent the new generation by doing a tag team. (with Ladytwo being in the awakened forme since the original Mewtwo would remain normal) Obviously unlikely, but fun to think about.

 

[Toxicroaker]

DO NOT GIVE AWAY ICE CLIMBERS GIFT it would make me soooooooo angry if anyone got that gift... it is what makes the ice climbers unique and special. I also think that giving mewtwo the gimmick would ruin him in smash bros. for me

 

[Diddy Kong]

I cannot explain how horrible it would be.

 

[FalKoopa]

A mewtwo tag-team. LOLno.

 

[Deleted member 212841]

Hopefully we don't get another Sheik/Zelda or Samus/ZSS either. Honestly, trying to represent both formes is going to kill the uniqueness Mewtwo had. Sakurai should just ignore the new one.

 

[woopyfrood]

Agreed.

However, it would be rather ironic since Newtwo is what is making Mewtwo so relevant again, and that relevance is his biggest chance of getting into SSB4.

 

[Toxicroaker]

yea if it is one or the other it would be the new form that gets in sadly so just hope it is both

 

[Steelia]

Make sure to think highly of Mewtwo! Let's keep his numbers up.
http://smashboards.com/threads/rate-their-chance-returns-day-10-mewtwo.337682/

 

[Banjodorf]

Well, I finally got around to designing Mewtwo for Smash Bros 4:

This is mostly based on his normal forme than anything else, but that's mainly because so little is known about the abilities of the awakened forme so this will most likely be remade in the future.

I love it. It's possibilities like this that make Mewtwo one of my top 3 "newcomers". That and it's ****ing Mewtwo. Yeah. I really love that moveset, and really hope they put the same amount of effort into redesigning his moveset, because really, of all Pokemon, he deserves it the most.

 

[Deleted member 212841]

Agreed.

However, it would be rather ironic since Newtwo is what is making Mewtwo so relevant again, and that relevance is his biggest chance of getting into SSB4.

It's one of a many things, Mewtwo didn't need a new forme for it to be relevant again. (we were saying so even before we found out the new forme exists) Also, if it does come down to Newtwo vs Classictwo Sakurai is probably going for the latter. I'm assuming this for the similar reasons he went with Megaman 2 over a more current version, he's just more iconic. (Megaman isn't the only one, Sakurai went with the PoR appearance for Ike in SSBB even though RD was already out) Plus he's already had Classictwo in and that's the character everybody was complaining about being cut, a trophy or an alt costume is enough to acknowledge the existence of this new forme. (Much like they did for RD Ike)

 

[Diddy Kong]

There was no Radiant Dawn Ike trophy. Only Sothe could be regarded as a Radiant Dawn trophy. Which isn't that farfetche'd, cause Micaiah and Sothe have been shown the first time Radiant Dawn got revealed.

I'm also hoping Classic Mewtwo is at least playable. If he uses his Awakening form somehow in his moveset, that'd also be awesome, but I'd rather have Mewtwo use it as his Final Smash. I'm not opposed to Awakening Mewtwo being playable at all, I think it would make an awesome playable character. However, I still love classic Mewtwo the most.

 

[Banjodorf]

There was no Radiant Dawn Ike trophy. Only Sothe could be regarded as a Radiant Dawn trophy. Which isn't that farfetche'd, cause Micaiah and Sothe have been shown the first time Radiant Dawn got revealed.

I'm also hoping Classic Mewtwo is at least playable. If he uses his Awakening form somehow in his moveset, that'd also be awesome, but I'd rather have Mewtwo use it as his Final Smash. I'm not opposed to Awakening Mewtwo being playable at all, I think it would make an awesome playable character. However, I still love classic Mewtwo the most.

I think he was talking about how Ike's alternate colors were similar to his Lord outfit. Sort of? The coloring is only vaguely like his blue/white color, and the brown is still there. Maybe. I'm just guessing. There definitely wasn't a RD Ike trophy though.

See, I'll be sort of upset if Awakened Mewtwo is the only available option. It's a cool form and all, but it just isn't "Mewtwo" to me. I'd prefer it as a FS, as not only would I get to keep Classic 'Two, but the form would then grow on me! I don't expect Sakurai to mishandle Mewtwo though. He knows. Just look at Mega Man.

 

[Deleted member 212841]

No I was talking about some sticker, in general I was just referring to all the extras that don't actually matter in a match but are there to talk about the series or whatever. The point I was trying to make is that Sakurai could have very well used the RD Ike but didn't. (I just worded it poorly)

It's not just me not liking how unMewtwoish and weird the new forme is but also the fact that implementing it pretty much does another multiman character which there's enough of with Zelda, Samus, Ice Climbers and Pokemon Trainer. Even the temporary transforming Final Smash is overdone by Yoshi, Wario, Sonic, etc. It would just be really lame to revive a character that was so unique and weird and rehash already seen material just to acknowledge some new unnecessary forme.

 

[Banjodorf]

I'm thinking it'll either be an alt, a FS form, or more likely be ignored. If Gamefreak wants it acknowledged, Sakurai will probably find some other way to do it. Sticker, trophy whatever.

Honestly, the only thing that I really find off-putting about the new form is the eggplant digits. They're just so...odd.

 

[Swift Fox]

Lot of Mewtwo² haters :/

Spoiler

 

[I_hate_usernames]

Technically, since it's a new Mewtwo (called it BTW) doesn't this actually make it Mewtwo 3?

 

[Toxicroaker]

Lot of Mewtwo² haters :/

Spoiler

but I like you T-T everyone say sorry to him

 

[Deleted member 212841]

Sorry, even in his best light spermtwo looks fugly. Must be some leftover from the gen 5 design.