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EXTENNNDUURRRRRR (samus gen. disc.)
- Thread starter Pi
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bubbaking
Smash Hero
What happened to metagame advancement? :'(((
KirbyKaze
Smash Legend
I first read this as "en vee em". It still worked. Too good.
bubbaking
Smash Hero
Laugh Out Loud, you guys!
Extenders? Overrated!
Find Charge Shot combos!
Extenders? Overrated!
Find Charge Shot combos!
MonkUnit
Project M Back Roomer
Windmill of fury
It is underrated
Opponents get mad
It is underrated
Opponents get mad
bubbaking
Smash Hero
That middle line is only 6 syllables, Monk! >:-|
It-is-un-der-rat-ed.
It-is-un-der-rat-ed.
Beat!
Smash Master
1. 5-7-5 doesn't refer to syllables
2. Even if it did, it's just a rule of thumb for a very specific type of haikus. Haikus can be made in a lot of ways.
2. Even if it did, it's just a rule of thumb for a very specific type of haikus. Haikus can be made in a lot of ways.
bubbaking
Smash Hero
Oh....what do the numbers refer to then? :/
Beat!
Smash Master
MonkUnit
Project M Back Roomer
Well I guess that means what I learned about haiku poems in elementary school was incorrect.
Okay. Haiku poems are too complicated now. I say we switch to limerick poems!
There once was a Samus from space,
Who had to get out of this place.
the alarm started sounding
So she started bounding
Then she left without leaving a trace!
There once was a Samus from space,
Who had to get out of this place.
the alarm started sounding
So she started bounding
Then she left without leaving a trace!
Geist
Smash Master
except for the planet exploding and stuff
mexicanmax227
Smash Apprentice
So Marth would prolly want to be above samus right? Ive been watching this vid for about 5 years know and finally see it differently. Tell me how many time you see this marth jump above samus and samus punishs with an upair( nhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ras6ohb5uM&feature=relatedot that effective) or just does nothing because he knows that his up air would be an insuffient punish. if youve got time of course.
Fortress | Sveet
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Idk about the rest of the stuff, but marth definitely doesn't want to be above anyone.
IMO:
Marth wants to be below Samus, on the ground. If he gets her above him, there's not much she can do before she gets back on the ground. Also, if that video really is from 5 years ago, it's practically irrelevant to the current metagame.
Marth wants to be below Samus, on the ground. If he gets her above him, there's not much she can do before she gets back on the ground. Also, if that video really is from 5 years ago, it's practically irrelevant to the current metagame.
Beat!
Smash Master
Marth definitely wants to be below Samus (and pretty much everyone else, for that matter).
bubbaking
Smash Hero
Both Marth and Samus want to remain below each other. Samus's uair is a great punish. Also, Marth's dair is probably worse than Samus's, considering the lag and all that.
Edit: Just watched the vid and I don't get what you're saying at all. The vid is from Evo and it was uploaded in 2010.
Edit2: Ah, it's from Evo 2007. This metagame is irrelevant compared to what we have now.
Edit: Just watched the vid and I don't get what you're saying at all. The vid is from Evo and it was uploaded in 2010.
Edit2: Ah, it's from Evo 2007. This metagame is irrelevant compared to what we have now.
-Philip Coast Philip-
Smash Ace
when bedazzled once to hurry
and write an astounding flurry
of haikus of smash
i found that they clashed
with brawl's forum policy, but i didn't worry
and write an astounding flurry
of haikus of smash
i found that they clashed
with brawl's forum policy, but i didn't worry
bubbaking
Smash Hero
What's brawl's forum policy? Also, why are talking about Brawl all of a sudden? (O_o)
Beat!
Smash Master
Limericks are awesome!when bedazzled once to hurry
and write an astounding flurry
of haikus of smash
i found that they clashed
with brawl's forum policy, but i didn't worry
resTy
Smash Champion
Samus vs. Peach. How?
Well from my experience (idk if this is the best idea or not), Peach likes to float in the air. Missle in the air, Peach cannot float in the air (as easily). If the match doesn't last at least 4 minutes, you're probably playing it wrong lol. Samus Peach takes forever.
vs Peach:
-Stay grounded
-Effective tilts
-Dodge/grab off stage turnips
-Missile at float cancel height
-Don't CC, ever
-Shield her dash attack and expect either a grab, jab, or downsmash afterward.
-Don't get cornered, keep changing your positioning
-Edgeguard her with Fsmash, bair, and nair if possible, everything else will just help her get higher up (Dair never works on non scrubs)
That's my best advice
-Stay grounded
-Effective tilts
-Dodge/grab off stage turnips
-Missile at float cancel height
-Don't CC, ever
-Shield her dash attack and expect either a grab, jab, or downsmash afterward.
-Don't get cornered, keep changing your positioning
-Edgeguard her with Fsmash, bair, and nair if possible, everything else will just help her get higher up (Dair never works on non scrubs)
That's my best advice
KirbyKaze
Smash Legend
Yeah you wanna be above Samus with Marth.
bubbaking
Smash Hero
Don't CC Peach's attacks. I'm not only talking about the obvious dsmash that Peach has, which will chew you inside and out if you try to CC it. Peach has other things that seem to be perfectly tailored to negating CC's, like float cancelled aerials and a good jab>grab combo. If she whiffs a dsmash, usually you can punish with a grab. Dthrow should combo into nair at anything past low %'s.
I talked to Duck at Apex about this MU and he said that you should never try to directly contest anything Peach does, cuz she will outright beat anything Samus has. Also, I say that edgeguarding w/ utilt is a very good option in this MU. My last note has to do with recovering. Those turnips are extremely annoying, but don't get frustrated. Do your best to dodge them, as they WILL knock you out of your bomb jump if they hit you, and I believe they can take out your bombs if they hit those.
Lolz! Best advice I've ever heard. XD
KirbyKaze
Smash Legend
I'm still mad at you.
bubbaking
Smash Hero
Yeah, I got that much... Don't know if you ever noticed but I can be kinda oblivious at times. Anyway, I'll do my best to avoid doing stupid stuff again... Hey, I'm just a scrub tryin' to learn all I can about this game.
Violence
Smash Lord
Uh, you can CC Peach's dash attack. Jus sayin.
THE RED SPARROW
Smash Lord
How do you guys handle Fox's UP+B when done at eccentric angles? I notice it is quite hard to so without trading hits (which can lead to Samus being Uaired or just letting Fox live period), either using Up Tilt or F-Smash.
I've tried Nair was well but it's rather difficult to space when Fox is coming down or up from a 20 degree angle or crawl up the side of the stage where only the tip of the hitbox juts out (which trades or beats the U-Tilt)
I've tried Nair was well but it's rather difficult to space when Fox is coming down or up from a 20 degree angle or crawl up the side of the stage where only the tip of the hitbox juts out (which trades or beats the U-Tilt)
Van.
Smash Ace
Not reactively.
zDuck
Smash Journeyman
just shield-grab peach's dash attack, easy enough
Violence
Smash Lord
Watch Duck vids, **** Fox's recovery.
bubbaking
Smash Hero
I don't think a Peach would want to dash attack a CCing Samus for the same reason a Samus would not want to dash attack a CCing Peach. She'd get wrecked. I don't like depending on CC to counter her dash attack simply cuz she could always be mixing you up with a grab.
THE RED SPARROW
Smash Lord
I still think Peach has better advantages in both scenarios. A properly spaced Dash attack also has an annoying retraction hitbox that can interrupt a CC Down Smash attempt.
resTy
Smash Champion
Duck, are you going to SMYM?