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Evolution: A Step Beyond CAP

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I want to help with the movepool for Absolvelution, I've got some pretty good ideas.
Oh wow, you just reminded me of something.

It would probably be a good idea for the people who do the spreads for prevos to include a movepool as well. Baby Pokemon usually have 'prevo-exclusive' moves (such as Nasty Plot on Pichu), so I think doing so would really add on to the concept.
 

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Well I designed it with a large-ish head to raise the cute factor, but the perspective also effects it.
 

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I cannot work on Dewgong or Absol right now (haven't attempted Dodrio yet). My apologies, but I cannot take requests. It's not how I work. I've found that I have to wait for a spark, then I'll work off that and that only.
 

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I cannot work on Dewgong or Absol right now (haven't attempted Dodrio yet). My apologies, but I cannot take requests. It's not how I work. I've found that I have to wait for a spark, then I'll work off that and that only.
No worries, man. Take your time. :)

This is why we need FlyinFilipino and other artists to jump in.

-Terywj
 

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I'm not going to let the fun be stolen by me for the pre-evo, even though I CAN read Spire's mind and give him the exact kind of stat spread he wants them to have, I won't.
 

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Yeah, I can try to draw some stuff out. It's probably easier to design pre/evolutions than something completely brand new. I can't pump out the high-quality work that Spire does, though (expect lots of black and white!). I'll see what I can do! :bee:
 

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If no one is going to make a freaking stat spread for that thing in the next hour I will :/
 

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Name: Abswirl
Type: Dark
Base Stats: 50 / 100 / 40 / 55 / 40 / 55 Total: 340

Its pretty underpowered for an LC Pokemon, but hey, its just one of those things that sit around, look cute, and that's good enough for everyone.
 

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I'm going to start pumping out concept sketches:


Raticlaw
Normal/Dark
Raticlaw - The SharpClaw Pokemon

RATICLAW spend most of their time living in sewers, construction zones, and other dark areas. They are known to constantly tear at prey when agitated.




Cromix, natural evolution of Onix (Lv. 42, something like that)
Rock/Dark
Cromix - The Belligerent Stone Pokemon

After traveling through the Earth's core, CROMIX have developed bodies made of ash and charcoal. Urban legend says that when a CROMIX appears, a Volcano will erupt soon.


I can't say what build I prefer, but here's another one:



Pinchite (Pinsir prevolution)
Bug
Pinchite- The Small Stag Pokemon

PINCHITE have two very small horns that are better suited for grabbing than cutting. They are very intrinsic Pokemon that have been known to latch on to larger Pokemon for survival.



Here's a new one:



Dugdozer
Ground
Dugdozer - The Drill Mole Pokemon

It is said that whenever a Diglett's body is exposed to the outside, a DUGDOZER is born. DUGDOZER have the ability to leap through the air to slash the opponent with poisoned claws.



Dugdozer it is, and I edited it in to the original post. I also made another one (I'm really into it right now):



Exeggork
Grass/Psychic
EXEGGORK - The Egg Stork Pokemon
EXEGGORK roam prairies and tend to egg nests of other Pokemon. Each of the heads is said to contribute a different nutrient to Pokemon Eggs.


Got another one:



Abswirl
Dark
Abswirl - The Circumstance Pokemon

ABSWIRL are known to appear whenever a minor inconvenience is about to occur. However, at the sight of ABSWIRL, many individuals become so enamored that the inconvenience never even occurs.
 

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I won't lie, that's cool. =P But I think you should remove the bit in Pinchite's about being Pinsir's prevolution. I don't think any other pokemon description does it. Just saying

Also, Spire, your art is amazing. Just saying. Exeggork and Cromix are two of the coolest designs I have ever seen.
 

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I love all these designs, I think your art is fantastic Spire.

Dugdozer and Cromix are definately my favourites though.
 

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Abswirl move set:

Natural Moves

Egg Punishment
Egg Psycho Cut
Egg Counter
Egg Payback
Egg Memento
Egg Embargo
Egg Will-O-Wisp
Start Bite
Start Scratch
Start Leer
Level 4 Taunt
Level 9 Quick Attack
Level 13 Torment
Level 17 Faint Attack
Level 22 Double Team
Level 26 Pursuit
Level 30 Psych Up
Level 33 Mean Look
Level 37 Assurance
Level 41 Slash
Level 45 Baton Pass
Level 49 Sucker Punch

TMs

Roar
Hidden Power
Taunt
Light Screen
Protect
Safeguard
Frustration
Iron Tail
Return
Double Team
Reflect
Torment
Secret Power
Rest
Embargo
Payback
Flash
Swords Dance
Dark Pulse

Comments, questions, concerns?

This is just preliminary, let me know what you guys think.
 

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Wait it sounded like I was critisizing you, didn't mean to make it sound like that sorry.

What I meant was like how to make those evolutions come about, like:

Dugdozer = Diglett holding an Everstone before lv 26.
 

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Oh I see what you mean. Well that doesn't take long.

What about breeding it while holding a Razor Claw or another item? That's something that hasn't really been used before and it could work.
 

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Wow, does this mean that Abswirl is almost done except for a sprite? I find that funny. Mawhile, the earliest, is the least done while Abswirl, the newest, is the most done. =P
 

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In trying to design an evolution for Dewgong, I have realized that it's already a pretty well-designed little critter.
It is pretty well-designed, but it's also a little bland. I think all it really needs done to it is just adding some flair to its design, and maybe make it just a tiny bit bulkier (so it actually looks like it did a legitimate evolution). Maybe evolve it into some seal/walrus hybrid that's more seal than walrus. You know, so it's still rather unique compared to Walrein.
 

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the everstone thing with diglett won't work since that can already technically happen
you have to do something new like

diglett holding a new item and leveling up with it
 

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It is pretty well-designed, but it's also a little bland. I think all it really needs done to it is just adding some flair to its design, and maybe make it just a tiny bit bulkier (so it actually looks like it did a legitimate evolution). Maybe evolve it into some seal/walrus hybrid that's more seal than walrus. You know, so it's still rather unique compared to Walrein.
I tried to give it a little something, but not take away too much from its simple, streamlined design. I guess I didn't really change it all that much.


I think it'd make a cool Water/Ghost type, personally.
 

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the everstone thing with diglett won't work since that can already technically happen
you have to do something new like

diglett holding a new item and leveling up with it
Yeah holding a new item would be fine too, but retconning isn't that bad either seeing as though they retconned half the 2nd Gen prevos and Lickylicky
 

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Except Dugdozer is an evolution to Dugtrio. The three Digletts that make up the trio evolve together, merging into one being. Hence the 'horns' that represent the bodies of the two 'unused' Digletts.

Other than that, those descriptions are awesome M-K :D I designed Pinchite based off of a tick, so your description is perfect. As for Cromix though, I based the concept on the Onix pokedex entries that state, "when an Onix ages, its rocks harden and smooth into black diamonds," (which is a summation of its entries across the generations).

@flyingfilipino - mind if I take the concept of your drawing and make a few adjustments? I couldn't find a starting place myself, and you certainly have. I have some ideas I'd like to flesh out.
 

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Oh an evolution? I saw it as being what Diglett would naturally evolve into if it never met up with two other Diglett's.
 

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Oh an evolution? I saw it as being what Diglett would naturally evolve into if it never met up with two other Diglett's.
If you guys like this idea more, then we can run with it. If so, I'll edit the artwork so it doesn't have the horns.
 

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If you guys like this idea more, then we can run with it. If so, I'll edit the artwork so it doesn't have the horns.
No no I like the way it looks. And it's only me that saw it like this I think, it was just my take on it as I never realised it was a evolution of Dugtrio, I thought it was a split evo of Diglett.
 

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No no I like the way it looks. And it's only me that saw it like this I think, it was just my take on it as I never realised it was a evolution of Dugtrio, I thought it was a split evo of Diglett.
I prefer this route. But the stats someone made before would have to be changed to correspond with this.
 

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@flyingfilipino - mind if I take the concept of your drawing and make a few adjustments? I couldn't find a starting place myself, and you certainly have. I have some ideas I'd like to flesh out.
Go for it!

It's a lot harder to make adjustments to currently existing Pokemon than I thought it would be.
 

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I personally prefer the path Spire has already made. It reminds me a lot of the Magnemite --->Magneton ---> Magnezone evolution path which IMO worked out perfectly for the line.
 
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